Race On-Line for $5000!!!

Just started a new online racing series. Its not a league, but is 'mini championships' (maximum 6 rounds). First prize for the winner of the final is $5000!! Plus theres prizes for each round and if theres enough entries we will have consolation races too (again with BIG cash prizes). Check it out and pre-register at www.motorsportsims.com Simon Oxberry

Heh... Looks pretty cool. What do you say, guys? Todd Wasson --- Performance Simulations Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction Software http://PerformanceSimulations.Com My little car sim screenshots: http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

If it looks to good to be true.......... <G> No thanks. -John "J. Todd Wasson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Heh... Looks pretty cool. What do you say, guys? > > > Todd Wasson > --- > Performance Simulations > Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction > Software > http://PerformanceSimulations.Com > > My little car sim screenshots: > http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm >

John Pancoast wrote: > > If it looks to good to be true.......... <G> > > No thanks. Well if they get the predicted 1000 entrants for the superspeedway competition, all paying $10 per race per round, they'll collect just over $20,500 in entry fees and only pay out $15,000 in prize money. Sounds like a nice little earner. Of course, if they DON'T get 1000 people and still have to pay out the prize money, they're on a right loser!

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (J. Todd Wasson) writes: >Heh... Looks pretty cool. What do you say, guys? > Y'know, I deleted it without even reading it. The title alone screamed "Spam!"... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Can the Detroit Tigers match the Detroit Lions' blazing 2001 start of 0-12??? Currently at 0-8...stay tuned... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden](J.

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> Todd Wasson) writes: > > >Heh... Looks pretty cool. What do you say, guys? > > > > Y'know, I deleted it without even reading it. The title alone screamed > "Spam!"... > > Eldred

I'm with you EP, I don't read this type of post until some other poor soul replies to it, then I read his reply instead. Never know what kind of trojan might be embedded in the original.

Problem is, what's to make them pay anything or even be around next week ? I.e., maybe it'll be a little TO close to actual racing, if you follow<G> -John "Kevin Clark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> John Pancoast wrote: > > > > If it looks to good to be true.......... <G> > > > > No thanks. > > Well if they get the predicted 1000 entrants for the superspeedway > competition, all paying $10 per race per round, they'll collect just > over $20,500 in entry fees and only pay out $15,000 in prize money. > Sounds like a nice little earner. Of course, if they DON'T get 1000 > people and still have to pay out the prize money, they're on a right

loser!

"EldredP" wrote... > <snip> > Y'know, I deleted it without even reading it. The title alone > screamed "Spam!"... Ding!! Idea!! We each put up $1 for Andre or Achim or some other quick guy to race and if he wins we split half the money between us. $1 layout for a possible $250 return on a one in thousand chance... that's better odds than the lottery. Jan. =---

Way to many problems with online racing to bring money into it. Can you imagine leading the last lap only to get the "error on network device" or some warping lapper taking you out? MadDAWG

Jan Verschueren wrote:

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> > "EldredP" wrote... > > <snip> > > Y'know, I deleted it without even reading it. The title alone > > screamed "Spam!"... > > Ding!! Idea!! > > We each put up $1 for Andre or Achim or some other quick guy to race and if > he wins we split half the money between us. $1 layout for a possible $250 > return on a one in thousand chance... that's better odds than the lottery. > > Jan. > =---

I'm in. Gerry

"Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Jan Verschueren wrote: > > Ding!! Idea!! > > > > We each put up $1 for Andre or Achim or some other quick guy to race andif > > he wins we split half the money between us. $1 layout for a possible$250 > > return on a one in thousand chance... that's better odds than thelottery. > I'm in. OK, everybody send me your money. You can trust me, honest.

ROFL!!! The "RAS-Ringers"!!! Sorry just thought it was kinda funny! :o) - Isotrip� "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Ding!! Idea!! > > We each put up $1 for Andre or Achim or some other quick guy to race andif

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> he wins we split half the money between us. $1 layout for a possible $250 > return on a one in thousand chance... that's better odds than the lottery. > > Jan. > =--- > >

"Isotrip�" wrote... > ROFL!!! The "RAS-Ringers"!!! > > > Sorry just thought it was kinda funny! :o) > > - Isotrip� It was intended as "kinda funny"... Jan. ;-) =---

It can be done as long as you trust whoever's running it if they ask for money. Ubi Soft had a $10,000 POD tournament five years ago which I was in and it worked out great. The winner got the money and Ubi also gave away video cards and some other prizes. MS and Tri gave away a pick up truck with a MTM2 tourney, and Jeep is giving away a truck with Evo 2. Everyone just has to accept the fact that they may be very unlucky if somehting happens like they lose their internet connection. David G Fisher "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Way to many problems with online racing to bring money into it. Can you > imagine leading the last lap only to get the "error on network device" or > some warping lapper taking you out? > > MadDAWG > > >

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> > Way to many problems with online racing to bring money into it. Can you > > imagine leading the last lap only to get the "error on network device" or > > some warping lapper taking you out? > Everyone just has to accept the fact that they may be very unlucky if > somehting happens like they lose their internet connection. > > David G Fisher

Sounds similar to real racing to me - mechanical failure on the last lap or being taken out by a backmarker - it happens & its for money...

I'd be willing to put $10 on Achim...but I think I'll send it directly to him, if you don't mind. "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "EldredP" wrote... > > <snip> > > Y'know, I deleted it without even reading it. The title alone > > screamed "Spam!"... > > Ding!! Idea!! > > We each put up $1 for Andre or Achim or some other quick guy to race and

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> he wins we split half the money between us. $1 layout for a possible $250 > return on a one in thousand chance... that's better odds than the lottery. > > Jan. > =--- > >

Sheesh........everyone forgets who one the first TWO ras races........put me in coach ! <VBG> -John "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%GLt8.13217$[email hidden]...

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> I'd be willing to put $10 on Achim...but I think I'll send it directly to > him, if you don't mind. > > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "EldredP" wrote... > > > <snip> > > > Y'know, I deleted it without even reading it. The title alone > > > screamed "Spam!"... > > > > Ding!! Idea!! > > > > We each put up $1 for Andre or Achim or some other quick guy to race and > if > > he wins we split half the money between us. $1 layout for a possible

$250 > > return on a one in thousand chance... that's better odds than thelottery.

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> > > > Jan. > > =--- > > > > > >

In article <1EFt8.6659$[email hidden]>, "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>"Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Jan Verschueren wrote: >> > Ding!! Idea!! >> > >> > We each put up $1 for Andre or Achim or some other quick guy to race and >if >> > he wins we split half the money between us. $1 layout for a possible >$250 >> > return on a one in thousand chance... that's better odds than the >lottery. >> I'm in. > >OK, everybody send me your money. You can trust me, honest. >

But, Jan said we put the money on a *quick* guy...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Can the Detroit Tigers match the Detroit Lions' blazing 2001 start of 0-12??? Currently at 0-8...stay tuned... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Sheesh........everyone forgets who one the first TWO rasraces........put > me in coach ! <VBG> > > -John See the Euro Bias here Johhny? if your name was Johan or sumpthin then they'd be all over ya... :) lol kidding really....folks... dave (I never met a foreigner I didn't know)henrie > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%GLt8.13217$[email hidden]... > > I'd be willing to put $10 on Achim...but I think I'll send it directlyto

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> > him, if you don't mind. > > > > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > "EldredP" wrote... > > > > <snip> > > > > Y'know, I deleted it without even reading it. The title alone > > > > screamed "Spam!"... > > > > > > Ding!! Idea!! > > > > > > We each put up $1 for Andre or Achim or some other quick guy to race

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> > if > > > he wins we split half the money between us. $1 layout for a possible > $250 > > > return on a one in thousand chance... that's better odds than the > lottery. > > > > > > Jan. > > > =--- > > > > > > > > > > > >

Lol Dave ! -John "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_GNt8.216502$Yv2.67972@rwcrnsc54...

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> > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Sheesh........everyone forgets who one the first TWO ras > races........put > > me in coach ! <VBG> > > > > -John > > See the Euro Bias here Johhny? if your name was Johan or sumpthin then > they'd be all over ya... > :) lol kidding really....folks... > dave (I never met a foreigner I didn't know)henrie > > > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:%GLt8.13217$[email hidden]... > > > I'd be willing to put $10 on Achim...but I think I'll send it directly > to > > > him, if you don't mind. > > > > > > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in

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> > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "EldredP" wrote... > > > > > <snip> > > > > > Y'know, I deleted it without even reading it. The title alone > > > > > screamed "Spam!"... > > > > > > > > Ding!! Idea!! > > > > > > > > We each put up $1 for Andre or Achim or some other quick guy to race > and > > > if > > > > he wins we split half the money between us. $1 layout for a possible > > $250 > > > > return on a one in thousand chance... that's better odds than the > > lottery. > > > > > > > > Jan. > > > > =--- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

"Steve Smith" wrote... > I'd be willing to put $10 on Achim...but I think I'll send > it directly to him, if you don't mind. The idea, if taken seriously, would be to each, in part, re-imburse the entrant's entry fee, Steve. That would mean relying on the entrant's honesty when it comes to distributiing any prizemoney, but as they could have said "you pays yer dollar, you takes yer chances". ;-) Jan. =---

Hi, Im glad my post generated so many responses! Its not a SPAM mailing at all - how else do you suppose to build awareness of a new site? Anyway, were not out to rip anyone off or anything like that, just to put up a GOOD server with the opportunity for people to race for some gains, instead of just points. I am a Sim racer. I am not a big multinational company who can afford to give away Jeeps and pick-up trucks, so the prize money HAS to come from the entry fees. The fees also help pay for the servers, the connections to the internet backbone (I am not renting these servers I OWN THEM!) and the admin thats involved with organising races of this size and calibre. At the moment we are in the process of getting the servers connected, then we will start taking entry fees for the first round of the first championship. All our fees can be paid via PayPal. Winnings will either be paid via PayPal also or by direct wire to your account - your choice. Why not join the mailing list for the newsletter, or pre-register for the first championship? Its not commiting you to anything. We just get some positive feedback from you guys. Thanks for listening!! Simon Oxberry MotorsportSims.com - Where Racing Pays.... www.motorsportsims.com "SO" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just started a new online racing series. Its not a league, but is 'mini > championships' (maximum 6 rounds). First prize for the winner of the final > is $5000!! > > Plus theres prizes for each round and if theres enough entries we willhave

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> consolation races too (again with BIG cash prizes). > > Check it out and pre-register at > > www.motorsportsims.com > > Simon Oxberry > > >

> Well if they get the predicted 1000 entrants for the superspeedway > competition, all paying $10 per race per round, they'll collect just > over $20,500 in entry fees and only pay out $15,000 in prize money. > Sounds like a nice little earner. Of course, if they DON'T get 1000 > people and still have to pay out the prize money, they're on a right loser! Except of course it states that the prize money is based on the number of entrants. The payout appears to be approx 70% of the entrance fee. Leaving 30% to cover connection costs, administration and profit. Personally I would be surprised if there were enough sim racers to sustain it. Real racers pay to race at the back of the grid because to race at all they have to pay for it. On-line there are plenty of alternatives. Those that feel they could make money are unlikely to have enough average to poor drivers to bolster the prize money fund. Only if the sim racing community was that big that 1000 drivers genuinely felt they had a shot at doing well enough to make some money could it work. Of course there could be a 1000 out there but I would be surprised. Tony

> being taken out by a backmarker - it happens & its for money... > > Yeah but you can't go beat their ass like in real life. :) MadDAWG

You guys act like the enterance fee is $100. Its $10. lol. VRW is $25 for the season, but that pretty much guarentees some of the best online racing anywhere, PERIOD. Everyone used to get excited when something serious was going on whats the problem? Good Luck Simon. Charlie "Simon Oxberry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3cb7f85b$[email hidden]...

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> Hi, > > Im glad my post generated so many responses! > > Its not a SPAM mailing at all - how else do you suppose to build awareness > of a new site? > > Anyway, were not out to rip anyone off or anything like that, just to put

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> a GOOD server with the opportunity for people to race for some gains, > instead of just points. I am a Sim racer. I am not a big multinational > company who can afford to give away Jeeps and pick-up trucks, so the prize > money HAS to come from the entry fees. The fees also help pay for the > servers, the connections to the internet backbone (I am not renting these > servers I OWN THEM!) and the admin thats involved with organising races of > this size and calibre. > > At the moment we are in the process of getting the servers connected, then > we will start taking entry fees for the first round of the first > championship. All our fees can be paid via PayPal. Winnings will either be > paid via PayPal also or by direct wire to your account - your choice. > > Why not join the mailing list for the newsletter, or pre-register for the > first championship? Its not commiting you to anything. We just get some > positive feedback from you guys. > > Thanks for listening!! > > Simon Oxberry > MotorsportSims.com - Where Racing Pays.... > > www.motorsportsims.com > > > "SO" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Just started a new online racing series. Its not a league, but is 'mini > > championships' (maximum 6 rounds). First prize for the winner of the

final

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> > is $5000!! > > > > Plus theres prizes for each round and if theres enough entries we will > have > > consolation races too (again with BIG cash prizes). > > > > Check it out and pre-register at > > > > www.motorsportsims.com > > > > Simon Oxberry > > > > > > > > >

In article <qf5u8.5927$[email hidden]>, "Charlie Buscher" <[email hidden]> writes: >You guys act like the enterance fee is $100. Its $10. lol. VRW is $25 for >the season, but that pretty much guarentees some of the best online racing >anywhere, PERIOD. Everyone used to get excited when something serious was >going on whats the problem? As someone else said, there are some people who really don't have ANY chance to win, so it would just be wasted money. Whether it's $100 or $10, I don't like throwing away money. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Can the Detroit Tigers match the Detroit Lions' blazing 2001 start of 0-12??? Currently at 0-10 as of April13th...stay tuned... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Thanks Charlie, We tried to keep the entrance costs down as low as possible, which of course means we need more entrants to get a decent prize fund structure. As for guaranteeing good racing, well, thats up to the people on the track. We will have a 'race official' at each heat so if anyone is intentionally wrecking they can be ejected. Hopefully as the rounds progress, it will only be the 'better' / 'more deserving' drivers who get through. We could change the format to a $50 or $60 entry up front to try and sift out anyone who may not be totally serious, but I thought that might discourage people from entering in the first place. Why dont you give me some suggestions on how you'd like to see it run? I'd appreciate your constructive comments! Simon Oxberry "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <qf5u8.5927$[email hidden]>,"Charlie > Buscher" <[email hidden]> writes: > > >You guys act like the enterance fee is $100. Its $10. lol. VRW is $25 for > >the season, but that pretty much guarentees some of the best onlineracing > >anywhere, PERIOD. Everyone used to get excited when something serious was > >going on whats the problem? > > As someone else said, there are some people who really don't have ANYchance to > win, so it would just be wasted money. Whether it's $100 or $10, I don'tlike

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> throwing away money. > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Can the Detroit Tigers match the Detroit Lions' blazing 2001 start of

0-12??? > Currently at 0-10 as of April13th...stay tuned... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> In article <1EFt8.6659$[email hidden]>, "Rob Adams" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >"Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> Jan Verschueren wrote: > >> > Ding!! Idea!! > >> > > >> > We each put up $1 for Andre or Achim or some other quick guy to race

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> >if > >> > he wins we split half the money between us. $1 layout for a possible > >$250 > >> > return on a one in thousand chance... that's better odds than the > >lottery. > >> I'm in. > > > >OK, everybody send me your money. You can trust me, honest. > > > > But, Jan said we put the money on a *quick* guy...<g>

Yeah I know, I'm just HOLDING the money. I'll pay it out (yeah right) to the winner :)

In article <LrCu8.14884$[email hidden]>, "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> writes: >> But, Jan said we put the money on a *quick* guy...<g> > >Yeah I know, I'm just HOLDING the money. I'll pay it out (yeah right) to the >winner :) > So says the "Watkins Glen Slasher"...<ducking> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Can the Detroit Tigers match the Detroit Lions' blazing 2001 start of 0-12??? Currently at 0-11 as of April14th...stay tuned...one more to tie Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <LrCu8.14884$[email hidden]>, "Rob Adams" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >> But, Jan said we put the money on a *quick* guy...<g> > > > >Yeah I know, I'm just HOLDING the money. I'll pay it out (yeah right) tothe > >winner :) > > > > So says the "Watkins Glen Slasher"...<ducking> My god, am I gonna be hearing about that when I'm 90?!? And No, before you ask, that's NOT next year. It's at least a couple years away...

In article <ecEu8.15492$[email hidden]>, "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> So says the "Watkins Glen Slasher"...<ducking> > >My god, am I gonna be hearing about that when I'm 90?!? > >And No, before you ask, that's NOT next year. It's at least a couple years >away... >

Sorry Rob, that really was a cheap shot... Public apology to Mr. Adams. Hey, I still have half a season to RACE this guy...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Can the Detroit Tigers match the Detroit Lions' blazing 2001 start of 0-12??? Currently at 0-11 as of April14th...stay tuned...one more to tie Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

at least 5 years ... lol .. j/k Rob Adams wrote:

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> "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <LrCu8.14884$[email hidden]>, "Rob Adams" > > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >> But, Jan said we put the money on a *quick* guy...<g> > > > > > >Yeah I know, I'm just HOLDING the money. I'll pay it out (yeah right) to > the > > >winner :) > > > > > > > So says the "Watkins Glen Slasher"...<ducking> > > My god, am I gonna be hearing about that when I'm 90?!? > > And No, before you ask, that's NOT next year. It's at least a couple years > away...

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I'm not paying $5000! I'd rather pay BTs extortionate fees. Chris "SO" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just started a new online racing series. Its not a league, but is 'mini > championships' (maximum 6 rounds). First prize for the winner of the final > is $5000!! > > Plus theres prizes for each round and if theres enough entries we willhave

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> consolation races too (again with BIG cash prizes). > > Check it out and pre-register at > > www.motorsportsims.com > > Simon Oxberry > > >