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16 posts by 11 people · 12 Mar 2006 10:21 UTC - 15 Mar 2006 14:41 UTC

Stephen White 12 Mar 2006 10:21 UTC#12559
As I lent out my gpl last year and never got it back, Im looking for another sim or replacing my old gpl are GTR or Gt legends up to the same calibre .ie online gaming, downloads etc??
Quoted text (7 lines)> As I lent out my gpl last year and never got it back, > Im looking for another sim or replacing my old gpl > > are GTR or Gt legends up to the same calibre .ie online gaming, downloads > etc?? > >
No, but rFactor is..
I would say GTL is the cats meow at the moment. Rfactor may be some day, but right now it isn't it. Only one opinion of course. GTR, while I love it is a little long in the tooth and with GTR2 closing I would probably wait for it. Chad "Driver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> >> As I lent out my gpl last year and never got it back, >> Im looking for another sim or replacing my old gpl >> >> are GTR or Gt legends up to the same calibre .ie online gaming, >> downloads etc?? > > No, but rFactor is..
"Chad Rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >I would say GTL is the cats meow at the moment. Rfactor may be some day, >but right now it isn't it. Only one opinion of course. GTR, while I love >it is a little long in the tooth and with GTR2 closing I would probably >wait for it. > > Chad I would have to respectfully disagree. rFactor has it all right now, and the mods just keep coming! Get them both and decide for yourself!
Rod 12 Mar 2006 21:49 UTC↳ reply to Chad Rogers#12573
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > I would say GTL is the cats meow at the moment. Rfactor may be some day, > but right now it isn't it. Only one opinion of course. Until recently I would have agreed with you. Since installing a 7800GT I haven't played GTL since (still a damn great sim, I just haven't been able to pry myself away from rFactor) rFactor does benefit greatly from a decent rig. It never clicked with me when I had a year old card, blurry graphics and 40FPS. The latest stock cars show great promise in a decent NASCAR sim and I'm loving the new hatches that came with the Lienz addon. Also having a lot of fun taking the Porches for a spin. :) -- Cheers, Rod.
Rod wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> Until recently I would have agreed with you. Since installing a 7800GT > I haven't played GTL since (still a damn great sim, I just haven't > been able to pry myself away from rFactor) > > rFactor does benefit greatly from a decent rig. It never clicked with > me when I had a year old card, blurry graphics and 40FPS. The latest > stock cars show great promise in a decent NASCAR sim and I'm loving > the new hatches that came with the Lienz addon. Also having a lot of > fun taking the Porches for a spin. :)
That is an interesting way around. Most find GTL requires the faster PC and only discover it in its full glory after an upgrade like you have just undergone. rFactor is a bit easier on the machine. Personally I like both. The modern day Porsches in rFactor and a heap of cars in GTL. The good thing is with their similar roots it is easy to jump from one to another. GPL never used to coexist well with other sims IMHO, the feel was quite different. I think both rFactor and GT Legends are excellent sims. Cheers Tony
In article <g32Rf.34917$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > That is an interesting way around. Most find GTL requires the faster PC > and only discover it in its full glory after an upgrade like you have > just undergone. rFactor is a bit easier on the machine. GTL only caused me grief on night time races, other than that I was able to run it above 60fps without too much eye candy being comprimised but in DX8. In comparison, rFactor looked terrible on my rig to get similar performance results and the theory seems to be that in order to get good feel from both sims you do need a consistant and high frame rate. Prior to my upgrade, rFactor was difficult to keep a car on the tarmac, now I'm actually competitive. -- Cheers, Rod.
If you kept running GPL becuase of the PC (maybe you have older stuff) you are in a sore spot, but if you could rung the thing with all the new patches and Grafical updates that they had online for downloads, then you probably run Rfactor ok. Rfactor it seems, is pretty scalable I'd dare say, to be easier on hardware (has settings at least). Where as the GTLegends, seems to have but a few settings that do half as much to relieve the PC of the burden of rendering, so to me, it is the GPL of today, in a couple of ways, older cars without much aero on old tires type driving. Plus the Computer performance requirements are HIGH, again like GPL was in it's day, as I recall I did some big PC upgrading to run GPL when it came out back then, becuase you needed it yet could struggle through. Now my machine is a 2.4 GHZ with 6600gt 128, plays GTL at barely usable frames when you have 21 cars in the "offline-career mode" challenges that you somewhat must do to unlock all cars, unless you find the hacks (which i have done), Yet the same PC & game is pretty fabulous online or testing/racing with few cars... Stephen White enlightened us with: > As I lent out my gpl last year and never got it back, > Im looking for another sim or replacing my old gpl > > are GTR or Gt legends up to the same calibre .ie online gaming, > downloads etc??
"Stephen White" <[email hidden]> writes: > As I lent out my gpl last year and never got it back, > Im looking for another sim or replacing my old gpl > > are GTR or Gt legends up to the same calibre .ie online gaming, downloads > etc?? No. rFactor might be, sometime. Get the 2004 Demo of GPL at Blackhole http://www.bhmotorsports.com/GPL/downloads/3239 and get back racing. :) /Andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
>I would say GTL is the cats meow at the moment. >Rfactor may be some day, but right now it isn't it. Gee our GPL league is sniffing around the same subject and are sort of coming to the opposite conclusion.. rfactor has some classic tracks now (and more coming), all sorts of eras and mods (GTL does one era but does it well), and I understood had better support for larger feilds online (I could be wrong). Plus it's got open wheel racing instead of just sedans and sports cars. We're perfectly happy with GPL except every year we lose 1 or 2 drivers and it's virtually impossible to replace them. BTW shame on you for lending out GPL without keeping a copy for yourself... ;)
Stephen White wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> As I lent out my gpl last year and never got it back, > Im looking for another sim or replacing my old gpl > > are GTR or Gt legends up to the same calibre .ie online gaming, downloads > etc?? > >
Steve, I personally believe the Mods based on NascarRacing 2003 Season like GTP have better play and are easy to have meaningful league play then any of the ISI/rFactor based SIMs. Over the next year this may change, however most leagues still use the NR2003 based SIMs. GTP is having a little spurt now as many new people are coming in. -- Niles Anders FLOG Online Games SIM Racing Servers and Game Servers http://flog.com
Mitch 14 Mar 2006 03:20 UTC↳ reply to mcewena#12612
I sure havent had a lot of luck running GTL online and even less luck with any more than 10-15 others (finding a server with that many racers is near impossible anyway). Most of the same exact faults that caused such outrage in GTR are still alive and well in GTL although for some reason much more muted from the community. IMO GTL feels closer to GTR than rF even though GTL looks nicer. rFactor is solid online but isnt quite as shiny :) Mitch "mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... and I understood had > better support for larger feilds online (I could be wrong).
>like GTP have better play and are easy to have meaningful league play I personally can't come to grips with those cars and I can't figure out why. It seems like if I enter a particular corner at 78mph (for example), I'm trundling around like an old lady and I'm not even warming up the tires, if I enter the same corner at 80mph the car is undrivable, touch the curb and you're off....etc 79mph is perfect. I'm over stating the problem obviously but they seem to have a very narrow performance band...
Niles Anders <[email hidden]> writes: > Steve, I personally believe the Mods based on NascarRacing 2003 Season > like GTP have better play and are easy to have meaningful league play > then any of the ISI/rFactor based SIMs. Over the next year this may > change, however most leagues still use the NR2003 based SIMs. GTP is > having a little spurt now as many new people are coming in. Indeed? I have been looking for a race at VROC and not finding much action. /Andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
"mcewena" <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (13 lines)> >I would say GTL is the cats meow at the moment. > >Rfactor may be some day, but right now it isn't it. > > Gee our GPL league is sniffing around the same subject and are sort of > coming to the opposite conclusion.. > > rfactor has some classic tracks now (and more coming), all sorts of > eras and mods (GTL does one era but does it well), and I understood had > better support for larger feilds online (I could be wrong). Plus it's > got open wheel racing instead of just sedans and sports cars. > > We're perfectly happy with GPL except every year we lose 1 or 2 drivers > and it's virtually impossible to replace them.
Considering you probably live on the wrong side of the pond (and are too fast for me), but anyway, what league are you driving? /andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
>Considering you probably live on the wrong side of the pond (and are too >fast for me), but anyway, what league are you driving? I'm on the left side but we have guys from each side along with a guy from across another pond entirely (NZ) in our league. And no I'm likely not too fast, but if I was our points system and handicapping would put me in a slower car then you.... Come on out to GPLRegulars, we're running GPL 67FV and 69F1 on alternating Thursdays (EST). http://users.hfx.eastlink.ca/~mackaypenny/gplreg.html

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