ea's v8 challenge

so what do you guys feel about this game due out around the 26th now. and do you think it will be good on the internet like gpl ? pictures dont looks as good as race driver from codemasters, but sometimes graphics arnt all there is to a game.

"falcon" wrote ... > so what do you guys feel about this game due out around the 26th now. > > and do you think it will be good on the internet like gpl ? > > pictures dont looks as good as race driver from codemasters, butsometimes > graphics arnt all there is to a game. > Is it Codemasters we get as intro to the televised V8 supercar races? Does not look too good... Would much rather a real car with a camera... Tony ps I don't believe "25th April" as the V8 EA release date moves back every time it gets within about 3 weeks. Initial planned to be a mid december release giving missus an easy xmas solution - maybe for 2002....

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> > "falcon" wrote ... > > so what do you guys feel about this game due out around the 26th now. > > > > and do you think it will be good on the internet like gpl ? > > > > pictures dont looks as good as race driver from codemasters, but > sometimes > > graphics arnt all there is to a game. > > > > Is it Codemasters we get as intro to the televised V8 supercar races? Does > not look too good... Would much rather a real car with a camera...

Yep, the Codemasters game is what they use on the broadcasts as it is the 'official' game. From what I have seen, EA's V8 Challenge looks better. Dave > Tony > ps I don't believe "25th April" as the V8 EA release date moves back every > time it gets within about 3 weeks. Initial planned to be a mid december > release giving missus an easy xmas solution - maybe for 2002.... Still having licensing probs I guess - AFAIK the game is ready for release.

If it's EA, the online play will be non-existent. -John "falcon" <falcon_2k@[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3cbaaaba$0$9995$[email hidden]... > so what do you guys feel about this game due out around the 26th now. > > and do you think it will be good on the internet like gpl ? > > pictures dont looks as good as race driver from codemasters, butsometimes > graphics arnt all there is to a game. > >

Not necessarily, remember EA is only the publisher, ISI wrote F12001. I think this is made by the "rallymasters guys", which was quite reasonable online (i played quite a few 8 player races). All the best, Ash "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> If it's EA, the online play will be non-existent. > > -John > > > "falcon" <falcon_2k@[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3cbaaaba$0$9995$[email hidden]... > > so what do you guys feel about this game due out around the 26th now. > > > > and do you think it will be good on the internet like gpl ? > > > > pictures dont looks as good as race driver from codemasters, but > sometimes > > graphics arnt all there is to a game. > > > > > >

Since its the same guys who wrote STCC2, and V8-game is based on the STCC2, i think the multiplayer will be great. STCC2 had dedicated server, and is like GPL in multiplayer. Good even for modem-users. "falcon" <falcon_2k@[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3cbaaaba$0$9995$[email hidden]... > so what do you guys feel about this game due out around the 26th now. > > and do you think it will be good on the internet like gpl ? > > pictures dont looks as good as race driver from codemasters, butsometimes > graphics arnt all there is to a game. > >

yes but, its australian style touring car, isnt it ?or am I wrong ? Andreas Nystrom wrote:

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> Since its the same guys who wrote STCC2, and V8-game is based on the STCC2, > i think the multiplayer will be great. STCC2 had dedicated server, and is > like GPL in multiplayer. Good even for modem-users. > > "falcon" <falcon_2k@[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3cbaaaba$0$9995$[email hidden]... > > so what do you guys feel about this game due out around the 26th now. > > > > and do you think it will be good on the internet like gpl ? > > > > pictures dont looks as good as race driver from codemasters, but > sometimes > > graphics arnt all there is to a game. > > > >

-- rgds, Tony _____________________________________________________ Tony Van Cauter Staff Consultant Applications SysAdmin/DBA Oracle Belgium Airport Business Center Vuurberg 80, 1831 Diegem +32-(0)2-719.12.11 _____________________________________________________ 32-(0)2-719.57.95 0497/59.66.44 [email hidden]

> yes but, its australian style touring car, isnt it ?or am I wrong ? > And it will only be sold in Australia? Jone.

All their in-house Nascar games online stunk............though, like Hasbro with Heat, they promised the world. It's not their priority and they have no qualms saying such. -John "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EHBu8.18951$LN2.209887@NewsReader...

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> Not necessarily, remember EA is only the publisher, ISI wrote F12001. I > think this is made by the "rallymasters guys", which was quite reasonable > online (i played quite a few 8 player races). > > All the best, > Ash > > > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > If it's EA, the online play will be non-existent. > > > > -John > > > > > > "falcon" <falcon_2k@[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3cbaaaba$0$9995$[email hidden]... > > > so what do you guys feel about this game due out around the 26th now. > > > > > > and do you think it will be good on the internet like gpl ? > > > > > > pictures dont looks as good as race driver from codemasters, but > > sometimes > > > graphics arnt all there is to a game. > > > > > > > > > > > >

As mentioned before, this game uses an evolution of the code written for STCC2 by Digital Illusions, which, from what I've heard, had good online multiplayer. Jan. =--- "Ashley McConnell" wrote...

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> Not necessarily, remember EA is only the publisher, ISI > wrote F12001. I think this is made by the "rallymasters > guys", which was quite reasonable online (i played quite > a few 8 player races). > > All the best, > Ash ><snip>

Umm wha? Did Digital Illusions make the nascar games? I can't see them making it rubbish online after STCC2 / RallyMasters Ash "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > All their in-house Nascar games online stunk............though, like > Hasbro with Heat, they promised the world. It's not their priority andthey > have no qualms saying such. > > -John >

What's the max for those, eight players, or is it more ? -John "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:G8Iu8.20500$LN2.221634@NewsReader...

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> Umm wha? Did Digital Illusions make the nascar games? I can't see them > making it rubbish online after STCC2 / RallyMasters > > Ash > > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > All their in-house Nascar games online stunk............though, like > > Hasbro with Heat, they promised the world. It's not their priority and > they > > have no qualms saying such. > > > > -John > > > > >

"Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > yes but, its australian style touring car, isnt it ?or am I wrong ? > > Andreas Nystrom wrote: Careful, there are plenty of fans of the Upside-down Tin-top series. You don't want to get on Goy's bad side do you?? dave :) henrie

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> > "falcon" wrote ... > > so what do you guys feel about this game due out around the 26th now. > > > > and do you think it will be good on the internet like gpl ? > > > > pictures dont looks as good as race driver from codemasters, but > sometimes > > graphics arnt all there is to a game. > > > > Is it Codemasters we get as intro to the televised V8 supercar races? Does > not look too good... Would much rather a real car with a camera... > Tony > ps I don't believe "25th April" as the V8 EA release date moves back every > time it gets within about 3 weeks. Initial planned to be a mid december > release giving missus an easy xmas solution - maybe for 2002....

It won't be released in Oz on April 25th - I't a public holiday - all the stores are closed Phillip...

Yar im an aussie, and its about time we got our v8's on the tracks ! well if its made by the same guys who did stcc2 ( not that we got that here in aussie also :( and you say it has great online ! even with a modem like gpl ) this then sounds like great news :P

The only bad thing is that i heard that many of the tracks in V8 is from STCC2, meaning that you will run on swedish racingtracks . "falcon" <falcon_2k@[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3cbba0d9$0$9996$[email hidden]...

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> Yar im an aussie, > and its about time we got our v8's on the tracks ! > well if its made by the same guys who did stcc2 ( not that we got that > here in aussie also :( and you say it has great online ! even with a modem > like gpl ) > this then sounds like great news > :P > > >

"John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What's the max for those, eight players, or is it more ? > > -John > >I think it was 8 (perhaps 10) - but it was very playable on even a 33.6 modem (that I had at the time). They had a good server system that allowed you to HOST a game on their own servers, It was impressive and worked really well. It is a little disappointing that it isnt pushing the 20 player mark, but perhaps it has developed? All the best, Ash http://www.siroccoracing.com

no, not that, but it will be 'unknown' cars for me .. as european, prefer the european cars ... bu then again, maybe they are racing BMW540i ... those are V8's ... guess thats not what they will do .. Jone Tytlandsvik wrote: > > yes but, its australian style touring car, isnt it ?or am I wrong ? > > > > And it will only be sold in Australia? > > Jone. -- rgds, Tony _____________________________________________________ Tony Van Cauter Staff Consultant Applications SysAdmin/DBA Oracle Belgium Airport Business Center Vuurberg 80, 1831 Diegem +32-(0)2-719.12.11 _____________________________________________________ 32-(0)2-719.57.95 0497/59.66.44 [email hidden]

like the way you say ... it HAD good online multiplayer .. yes, its losing it from what I see .. Jan Verschueren wrote:

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> As mentioned before, this game uses an evolution of the code written for > STCC2 by Digital Illusions, which, from what I've heard, had good online > multiplayer. > > Jan. > =--- > > "Ashley McConnell" wrote... > > Not necessarily, remember EA is only the publisher, ISI > > wrote F12001. I think this is made by the "rallymasters > > guys", which was quite reasonable online (i played quite > > a few 8 player races). > > > > All the best, > > Ash > ><snip>

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lol ... ueh .. .I guess not, but then again, he IS on the other side of the world ! Dave Henrie wrote:

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> "Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > yes but, its australian style touring car, isnt it ?or am I wrong ? > > > > Andreas Nystrom wrote: > Careful, there are plenty of fans of the Upside-down Tin-top series. You > don't want to get on Goy's bad side do you?? > dave :) henrie

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and what exaclty is the bad part then ? cant read the commercials on the side of the track ? J/K .. guess you have to learn some mickey mouse tracks ! I think some are great by the way .. Mo I Rana .. Andreas Nystrom wrote:

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> The only bad thing is that i heard that many of the tracks in V8 is from > STCC2, meaning that you will run on swedish racingtracks . > > "falcon" <falcon_2k@[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3cbba0d9$0$9996$[email hidden]... > > Yar im an aussie, > > and its about time we got our v8's on the tracks ! > > well if its made by the same guys who did stcc2 ( not that we got that > > here in aussie also :( and you say it has great online ! even with a modem > > like gpl ) > > this then sounds like great news > > :P > > > > > >

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He is talking about a game that was released in the past by the same development team, why wouldnt he say *had*? What Jan is saying is that because STCC2 *had* good multiplayer, V8 challenge will also *have* good multiplayer :) its not complicated :) Ash http://www.siroccoracing.com "Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> like the way you say ... it HAD good online multiplayer .. yes, its losing > it from what I see .. > > Jan Verschueren wrote: > > > As mentioned before, this game uses an evolution of the code written for > > STCC2 by Digital Illusions, which, from what I've heard, had good online > > multiplayer. > > > > Jan.

Tony Van Cauter wrote: > > lol ... ueh .. .I guess not, but then again, he IS on the other side of the > world ! Norway, my good man, is not that far from Belgium, good thing I put a new blade and handle on my axe and had the horns on my helmet polished..... You might have saved yourself with that comment about Arctic Circle Raceway (Mo i Rana) though :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

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> > Yar im an aussie, > and its about time we got our v8's on the tracks ! > well if its made by the same guys who did stcc2 ( not that we got that > here in aussie also :( and you say it has great online ! even with a modem > like gpl ) > this then sounds like great news > :P

AussieV8's !!! Hey, it worked for the CART guys Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

what made me think you were from downunder ? well, roflol anyway .. dont waste time polishing the helmet, the axe will be frightening enough ! Goy Larsen wrote:

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> Tony Van Cauter wrote: > > > > lol ... ueh .. .I guess not, but then again, he IS on the other side of the > > world ! > > Norway, my good man, is not that far from Belgium, good thing I put a > new blade and handle on my axe and had the horns on my helmet > polished..... > > You might have saved yourself with that comment about Arctic Circle > Raceway (Mo i Rana) though :-) > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" > --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

-- rgds, Tony

Tony Van Cauter wrote: > > what made me think you were from downunder ? well, roflol anyway .. dont waste > time polishing the helmet, the axe will be frightening enough ! Even a Norwegian may have good taste when it comes to racing, in fact I think we're ideally suited to make objective choices since we have no racing worth mentioning here...:-) Some day I'll have to capture the early laps of the 93 (?) Bathurst and put it up for download, the dice between Larry Perkins and Peter Brock in the wet would have been worth the price of flight tickets to Aussie land on it's own, and more than worth the price of a few video tapes :-), sliding those big V8's around like they were sprint cars or something in a 5 lap shoot-out, awesome So you are from Belgium then I take it ? Is anyone still racing that Pug 806 Super Tourer that some maniac built there ? :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

so, STCC2 hasn't got good multiplayer, cause it had good multiplayer ? lol Ashley McConnell wrote:

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> He is talking about a game that was released in the past by the same > development team, why wouldnt he say *had*? What Jan is saying is that > because STCC2 *had* good multiplayer, V8 challenge will also *have* good > multiplayer :) its not complicated :) > > Ash > http://www.siroccoracing.com > > "Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > like the way you say ... it HAD good online multiplayer .. yes, its losing > > it from what I see .. > > > > Jan Verschueren wrote: > > > > > As mentioned before, this game uses an evolution of the code written for > > > STCC2 by Digital Illusions, which, from what I've heard, had good online > > > multiplayer. > > > > > > Jan.

-- rgds, Tony

hey, dont get me wrong, I like these cars as well, but I prefer some european style touringcar ..; surely Bathurst makes it more attractive, but not all tracks are that exciting ... anyway, once did F1GP2 on Bathurst .. interesting remember that time some of these euroracers went downunder on bathurst ? some belgians in an Audi V8 I guess .. anyway ... when I see some of that racing on my telly, I will watch it as well, but since they dont do that here .. i have to watch F1 ... Peugeot 806 .. yeah, some crazy frenchies might have done that, they have done crazier stuff Goy Larsen wrote:

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> Tony Van Cauter wrote: > > > > what made me think you were from downunder ? well, roflol anyway .. dont waste > > time polishing the helmet, the axe will be frightening enough ! > > Even a Norwegian may have good taste when it comes to racing, in fact I > think we're ideally suited to make objective choices since we have no > racing worth mentioning here...:-) > > Some day I'll have to capture the early laps of the 93 (?) Bathurst and > put it up for download, the dice between Larry Perkins and Peter Brock > in the wet would have been worth the price of flight tickets to Aussie > land on it's own, and more than worth the price of a few video tapes > :-), sliding those big V8's around like they were sprint cars or > something in a 5 lap shoot-out, awesome > > So you are from Belgium then I take it ? > > Is anyone still racing that Pug 806 Super Tourer that some maniac built > there ? :-) > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" > --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

-- rgds, Tony

Tony, Put the bottle down :) ....EA V8 Challenge...ok? *has* good multiplayer.......wait for it...... ...because Swedish....Touring....Car...Championship....also had good multiplayer ...now step away from the bottle :) Ash "Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > so, STCC2 hasn't got good multiplayer, cause it had good multiplayer ? > > lol > > Ashley McConnell wrote: > > > He is talking about a game that was released in the past by the same > > development team, why wouldnt he say *had*? What Jan is saying is that > > because STCC2 *had* good multiplayer, V8 challenge will also *have* good > > multiplayer :) its not complicated :) > > > > Ash > > http://www.siroccoracing.com > > > > "Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

my bottle is empty now, so I can step away from it quite safely ... or actually .. sort of dizzy roflol .. so you are saying EA V8 Challenge WILL have good multi... come on .. lets end this crap I think everybody else got the message - dont mind me ... ;) Ashley McConnell wrote:

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> Tony, > > Put the bottle down :) > > ....EA V8 Challenge...ok? *has* good multiplayer.......wait for it...... > > ...because Swedish....Touring....Car...Championship....also had good > multiplayer > > ...now step away from the bottle :) > > Ash > > "Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > so, STCC2 hasn't got good multiplayer, cause it had good multiplayer ? > > > > lol > > > > Ashley McConnell wrote: > > > > > He is talking about a game that was released in the past by the same > > > development team, why wouldnt he say *had*? What Jan is saying is that > > > because STCC2 *had* good multiplayer, V8 challenge will also *have* good > > > multiplayer :) its not complicated :) > > > > > > Ash > > > http://www.siroccoracing.com > > > > > > "Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >

-- rgds, Tony

"Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > my bottle is empty now, so I can step away from it quite safely ... oractually > .. sort of dizzy > > roflol .. so you are saying EA V8 Challenge WILL have good multi... comeon .. > lets end this crap > > Hurray! :). Ash http://www.siroccoracing.com

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> falcon wrote: > > > > Yar im an aussie, > > and its about time we got our v8's on the tracks ! > > well if its made by the same guys who did stcc2 ( not that we got that > > here in aussie also :( and you say it has great online ! even with a modem > > like gpl ) > > this then sounds like great news > > :P > > AussieV8's !!!

Yeah, standing behind the fences at Surfers Paradise feeling the heat radiation from the flames out of the exhaust pipes when the cars were downshifting into the Fosters chicane. And the sound. mmmmmmmmmm I guess i've payed back for a slightly delayed N2002 shipment now :P -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

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> > Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> writes: > > > falcon wrote: > > > > > > Yar im an aussie, > > > and its about time we got our v8's on the tracks ! > > > well if its made by the same guys who did stcc2 ( not that we got that > > > here in aussie also :( and you say it has great online ! even with a modem > > > like gpl ) > > > this then sounds like great news > > > :P > > > > AussieV8's !!! > > Yeah, standing behind the fences at Surfers Paradise feeling the heat > radiation from the flames out of the exhaust pipes when the cars were > downshifting into the Fosters chicane. And the sound. mmmmmmmmmm > > I guess i've payed back for a slightly delayed N2002 shipment now :P

I thought we didn't go for cruel and inhumane punishment in this country ? Anyways, CF397665154NO, now you can keep track of it yourself :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

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> > hey, dont get me wrong, I like these cars as well, but I prefer some european style > touringcar ..; surely Bathurst makes it more attractive, but not all tracks are that > exciting ... anyway, once did F1GP2 on Bathurst .. interesting > > remember that time some of these euroracers went downunder on bathurst ? some > belgians in an Audi V8 I guess .. anyway ... when I see some of that racing on my > telly, I will watch it as well, but since they dont do that here .. i have to watch > F1 ...

Tsk tsk tsk, poor misguided soul....:-) > Peugeot 806 .. yeah, some crazy frenchies might have done that, they have done > crazier stuff Nope, some Belgian loony built it for the PROCAR series, looked really cool, can't remember the year though, they claimed it was close to impossible to pass it in the rain because of the extra spray at the back....:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

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> > "Tony L" wrote ... > > > It won't be released in Oz on April 25th - I't a public holiday - all the > stores are closed > Phillip... >

Good point - it won't be released April 25- it is Anzac Day. BerlinWall.com.au have Fri 26th as release date. It continually shifts. Recipe is to be patient I suppose.... Tony

yeah but some belgian looneys speak french, and I call these frenchies cause they are french as french can be, and might as well come from france itself anyway, he didnt actually raced the procar I guess, cause we will have its ass beaten by any other car having 80 BHP since they dont have to drag the weight of a bus along, ... and its not always raining here ... and if it is, it would have certainly be beaten by a certain Audi V8 awd and what do YOU know about coverage of carracing on Belgian (non extra-payable) television ? Goy Larsen wrote:

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> Tony Van Cauter wrote: > > > > hey, dont get me wrong, I like these cars as well, but I prefer some european style > > touringcar ..; surely Bathurst makes it more attractive, but not all tracks are that > > exciting ... anyway, once did F1GP2 on Bathurst .. interesting > > > > remember that time some of these euroracers went downunder on bathurst ? some > > belgians in an Audi V8 I guess .. anyway ... when I see some of that racing on my > > telly, I will watch it as well, but since they dont do that here .. i have to watch > > F1 ... > > Tsk tsk tsk, poor misguided soul....:-) > > > Peugeot 806 .. yeah, some crazy frenchies might have done that, they have done > > crazier stuff > > Nope, some Belgian loony built it for the PROCAR series, looked really > cool, can't remember the year though, they claimed it was close to > impossible to pass it in the rain because of the extra spray at the > back....:-) > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" > --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

-- rgds, Tony

"Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > my bottle is empty now, so I can step away from it quite safely ... oractually > .. sort of dizzy > > roflol .. so you are saying EA V8 Challenge WILL have good multi... comeon .. > lets end this crap > > I think everybody else got the message - dont mind me ... ;) > But now we have to decide if 8 to 10 is considered good multi...certainly better than most of the F1 titles...but.... dave henrie

Good point, here's hoping so. Thanks for the info, I stand corrected. Let's just hope EA doesn't change Digital's work. -John "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PqRu8.48304$dn6.470012@NewsReader...

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> > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > What's the max for those, eight players, or is it more ? > > > > -John > > > > > I think it was 8 (perhaps 10) - but it was very playable on even a 33.6 > modem (that I had at the time). They had a good server system that

allowed > you to HOST a game on their own servers, It was impressive and workedreally > well. It is a little disappointing that it isnt pushing the 20 playermark,

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> but perhaps it has developed? > > All the best, > Ash > http://www.siroccoracing.com > >

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> > yeah but some belgian looneys speak french, and I call these frenchies cause they are > french as french can be, and might as well come from france itself > > anyway, he didnt actually raced the procar I guess, cause we will have its ass beaten by > any other car having 80 BHP since they dont have to drag the weight of a bus along, ... > and its not always raining here ... and if it is, it would have certainly be beaten by a > certain Audi V8 awd > > and what do YOU know about coverage of carracing on Belgian (non extra-payable) television > ?

All I know is that it can't possibly be worse than what we've got over here, which is nothing :-) I won't even mention the F1 coverage as it would make even an exciting race seem very dull, but other forms of motorsport is available on VHS/DVD, through Duke's or something similar Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

Duke's ? and they sell VHS and DVD's ... OK, but thats not a way to watch car-racing, is it ? unless you want to watch some dated F1 or DTM, which can be very nice ... shouldn't you watch this stuff live, or at least with some short time delay to have a bit of suspense ? Goy Larsen wrote:

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> Tony Van Cauter wrote: > > > > yeah but some belgian looneys speak french, and I call these frenchies cause they are > > french as french can be, and might as well come from france itself > > > > anyway, he didnt actually raced the procar I guess, cause we will have its ass beaten by > > any other car having 80 BHP since they dont have to drag the weight of a bus along, ... > > and its not always raining here ... and if it is, it would have certainly be beaten by a > > certain Audi V8 awd > > > > and what do YOU know about coverage of carracing on Belgian (non extra-payable) television > > ? > > All I know is that it can't possibly be worse than what we've got over > here, which is nothing :-) > > I won't even mention the F1 coverage as it would make even an exciting > race seem very dull, but other forms of motorsport is available on > VHS/DVD, through Duke's or something similar > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" > --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

-- rgds, Tony

Tony Van Cauter wrote: > > Duke's ? and they sell VHS and DVD's ... OK, but thats not a way to watch car-racing, is it ? > > unless you want to watch some dated F1 or DTM, which can be very nice ... shouldn't you watch > this stuff live, or at least with some short time delay to have a bit of suspense ? No, I agree, it's not the best way to watch racing, but you take what you can get when you live in a country starved on motorsports coverage :-), besides, if you don't know the outcome of the race, or if it's a particularly good race.....:-) I have lots of rally videos from before Audi ruined the sport with their AWD Quattro :-), not really blaming Audi though, someone else would have done it sooner or later, they just happened to be first....sort of But seeing Ari Vataanen, Henri Toivonen, Pentti Arikkala, Marku "Maximum Attack" Aleen, Jimmy McCrae, Russel Brroks et all in their RWD FIAT 131's, Escort RS1800's, Chevette HSR's or Ascona/Manta 400's was much more entertaining than the current crop of cars, and well worth the price of the tapes, even 10 years after which is when I bought them http://www.dukevideo.com/ Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

ic - makes me wanne go and have a look on that site, thanks ... not that bad of an idea after all Goy Larsen wrote:

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> Tony Van Cauter wrote: > > > > Duke's ? and they sell VHS and DVD's ... OK, but thats not a way to watch car-racing, is it ? > > > > unless you want to watch some dated F1 or DTM, which can be very nice ... shouldn't you watch > > this stuff live, or at least with some short time delay to have a bit of suspense ? > > No, I agree, it's not the best way to watch racing, but you take what > you can get when you live in a country starved on motorsports coverage > :-), besides, if you don't know the outcome of the race, or if it's a > particularly good race.....:-) > > I have lots of rally videos from before Audi ruined the sport with their > AWD Quattro :-), not really blaming Audi though, someone else would have > done it sooner or later, they just happened to be first....sort of > > But seeing Ari Vataanen, Henri Toivonen, Pentti Arikkala, Marku "Maximum > Attack" Aleen, Jimmy McCrae, Russel Brroks et all in their RWD FIAT > 131's, Escort RS1800's, Chevette HSR's or Ascona/Manta 400's was much > more entertaining than the current crop of cars, and well worth the > price of the tapes, even 10 years after which is when I bought them > > http://www.dukevideo.com/ > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" > --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

-- rgds, Tony

Tony Van Cauter wrote: > > ic - makes me wanne go and have a look on that site, thanks ... not that bad of an idea after all Knew you were a reasonable fella :-) Found a couple of AussieV8 tapes, not all of them are actually "AussieV8's" as such, some are from the days they raced according to the old "Group A" regulation, not quite the same, but...you take what you can get :-), I belive the switched over to the current Super V8 regulation in 93....?, also, the pre 93 tapes has some spectacular cars themselves, Nissan Skyline and Sierra Cossies to name a couple I got my AussieV8 tapes from a genuine Aussie, he made sure I only got good stuff of course, he's picky, I'm surprised I got any races won by Ford at all since he's a huge Holden fan :-) http://www.dukevideo.com/Products/deptVCO.htm Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

some years ago, when we had Eurosprt here, I remember I was watching these races .. quite nice actually - I got myself a range of VHS tapes taped myself with all the stuff around late 80's beginning 90' .. . F1, DTM, procar, .. also have some tapes with crashes and other compilations (Top Gear stuff) ... Goy Larsen wrote:

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> Tony Van Cauter wrote: > > > > ic - makes me wanne go and have a look on that site, thanks ... not that bad of an idea after all > > Knew you were a reasonable fella :-) > > Found a couple of AussieV8 tapes, not all of them are actually > "AussieV8's" as such, some are from the days they raced according to the > old "Group A" regulation, not quite the same, but...you take what you > can get :-), I belive the switched over to the current Super V8 > regulation in 93....?, also, the pre 93 tapes has some spectacular cars > themselves, Nissan Skyline and Sierra Cossies to name a couple > > I got my AussieV8 tapes from a genuine Aussie, he made sure I only got > good stuff of course, he's picky, I'm surprised I got any races won by > Ford at all since he's a huge Holden fan :-) > > http://www.dukevideo.com/Products/deptVCO.htm > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" > --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

-- rgds, Tony

Tony Van Cauter wrote: > > some years ago, when we had Eurosprt here, I remember I was watching these races .. quite nice actually > - I got myself a range of VHS tapes taped myself with all the stuff around late 80's beginning 90' .. . > F1, DTM, procar, .. > > also have some tapes with crashes and other compilations (Top Gear stuff) ... Aaah, reminds me of the time when we had "Screensport" here, lots of European racing that Eurosport would never cover, as well as Live coverage of the Bathurst, including qualifying....<sniff sniff> Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Some day I'll have to capture the early laps of the 93 (?) Bathurst and > put it up for download, the dice between Larry Perkins and Peter Brock > in the wet would have been worth the price of flight tickets to Aussie > land on it's own Can't remember the year now, possibly '73, '74? Did you ever see the dice that Allan Moffat and Peter Brock had in the XY-GTHO and the XU1? Big V8 tank vs Nimble 6? In fact, most of the earlier Bathursts that featured those two drivers usually ended up in a good multi-lap dice. Cheers, Rod.

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> > In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > > Some day I'll have to capture the early laps of the 93 (?) Bathurst and > > put it up for download, the dice between Larry Perkins and Peter Brock > > in the wet would have been worth the price of flight tickets to Aussie > > land on it's own > > Can't remember the year now, possibly '73, '74? > > Did you ever see the dice that Allan Moffat and Peter Brock had in the > XY-GTHO and the XU1? Big V8 tank vs Nimble 6? > > In fact, most of the earlier Bathursts that featured those two drivers > usually ended up in a good multi-lap dice.

I've got "History of Bathurst" or something on tape, 3 180 min tapes or something like that, covering every year up to 96, but some of the earlier coverage is so so, I can't say I remember that one specifically, but I do remember the "eternal struggle" between Brockie and Moffat of course :-) I actually dug those tapes out my storage room to review the 94 race again, it was 94 not 93, guess I'll have to watch all 3 tapes all over again, not a bad way to spend a couple of evenings really What continues to amaze me is some of the stuff from the early races, which was not different from most touring/production car races at the time probably, at one of the pit stops the guys remove the wheels to change the bakes, when done they put the same wheels back on because "they looked just fine".....amazing :-), or the interview with Brockie where he talks about one his first races, being told not to use the brakes too much to slow down the car, that he should slow the car down by sliding it into the corners to save the brakes a bit, funny how the racing scene has changed Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > I've got "History of Bathurst" or something on tape, 3 180 min tapes or > something like that, covering every year up to 96, but some of the > earlier coverage is so so, I can't say I remember that one specifically, > but I do remember the "eternal struggle" between Brockie and Moffat of > course :-) Yes, I've seen those tapes.. gives you a good feel of Bathurst. > What continues to amaze me is some of the stuff from the early races, > which was not different from most touring/production car races at the > time probably, at one of the pit stops the guys remove the wheels to > change the bakes Can't recall if the brake change was a compulsory change because back in the 70's its was bordering on useless, they'd work for 2 laps or so! I had an 70 XW-GW with a 351C in it and I took it for a few unsafe laps around Bathurst about 6 years ago (unsafe due to the fact it's a 2 way road when it's not being legitimately raced on) and the brakes were ineffective by the end of conrod straight on the 1st lap! > or the interview with Brockie where he talks about one his first > races, being told not to use the brakes too much to slow down the > car, that he should slow the car down by sliding it into the corners > to save the brakes a bit I think I recall that one. 'and give it a little flick'? Although the coverage of the late 60's and early 70's races was a tad tacky, and the commentary early colonial Aussiespeak, I prefer them to the later races based solely on the fact that they were cars that were straight off the assembly line and couldn't be tampered with in any way. Moffat complained about the seats in the XWGT which would produce huge welts on his back after sliding around in the seat for hours on end. I know exactly how he felt. Cheers, Rod.

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> > Can't recall if the brake change was a compulsory change because back > in the 70's its was bordering on useless, they'd work for 2 laps or so! > I had an 70 XW-GW with a 351C in it and I took it for a few unsafe > laps around Bathurst about 6 years ago (unsafe due to the fact it's a > 2 way road when it's not being legitimately raced on) and the brakes > were ineffective by the end of conrod straight on the 1st lap! > > > or the interview with Brockie where he talks about one his first > > races, being told not to use the brakes too much to slow down the > > car, that he should slow the car down by sliding it into the corners > > to save the brakes a bit > > I think I recall that one. 'and give it a little flick'?

Yup :-), my road cars have always had good brakes, not always a lot of power though :-)

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> Although the coverage of the late 60's and early 70's races was a > tad tacky, and the commentary early colonial Aussiespeak, I prefer > them to the later races based solely on the fact that they were > cars that were straight off the assembly line and couldn't be tampered > with in any way. Moffat complained about the seats in the XWGT which > would produce huge welts on his back after sliding around in the seat > for hours on end. I know exactly how he felt.

Yeah, that was kinda silly, not even be allowed to have a proper racing seat in the car, but then again I also read an article in "Thoroughbred & Classic Cars" about the time Wilmont Racing introduced the Ford Galaxie to the British Saloon Car Championship, driven by Gentleman Jack Sears if memory serves me right, they were accused of cheating because other competitors thought the roll cage stiffened up the chassis too much so they had to cut away part of it..... Times have indeed changed :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life" --Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

Ok, lets see it this way. STCC2 is the base for the V8-game. Even some of the tracks from STCC2 is still in the V8 game. Yes, you will be racing Swedish tracks in the australian racegame. I dont see why they would remove the multiplayer from the code, since its already there. It works great with 20players on cable . The most ive raced with modem was 12people, and it worked good. Another thing is that you can disable the collision-detection of the cars in STCC2, so you can race against eachother even if someone has a real crap connection. Its kind of hotlapping against eachother with everyone at the same time around you. Great fun actually :) Its no big deal if one or 2 cars warp around the track, cause its not going to hurt you. One thing I like with Rally Masters online, is that you can select to play 5 races against eachother, and each one you get points if you win, etc. And after the 5 races you see who is the master. Sometimes you race all cars at the same time, and sometimes you go on these special stages, where 2 against 2 races, and then the 2 best races against eachother etc. One more thing is that you dont have to go thru a boring 1hour practice before start :) "Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > my bottle is empty now, so I can step away from it quite safely ... oractually > .. sort of dizzy > > roflol .. so you are saying EA V8 Challenge WILL have good multi... comeon ..

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> lets end this crap > > I think everybody else got the message - dont mind me ... ;) > > Ashley McConnell wrote: > > > Tony, > > > > Put the bottle down :) > > > > ....EA V8 Challenge...ok? *has* good multiplayer.......wait for

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> > > > ...because Swedish....Touring....Car...Championship....also had good > > multiplayer > > > > ...now step away from the bottle :) > > > > Ash > > > > "Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > so, STCC2 hasn't got good multiplayer, cause it had good multiplayer ? > > > > > > lol > > > > > > Ashley McConnell wrote: > > > > > > > He is talking about a game that was released in the past by the same > > > > development team, why wouldnt he say *had*? What Jan is saying is

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> > > > multiplayer :) its not complicated :) > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > http://www.siroccoracing.com > > > > > > > > "Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > -- > > rgds, > Tony > > >

yihaaw .. If they let all the good stuff from STCC2 in (the track and the cars for example) this game will really rock ! I know about the collision stuff - we always turn it off when racing - really fun, cause you cant push anybody off the track, and still you are driving with cars around you, mind you, you can .. euhm .. force somebody off the track driving in its way .. just destracting his sight ... thats the only disadvantage by the way, which servers are you using when playing stcc2 ? does the name 'Nib' says anything to you ? and what about these V8 on some of the mickey mouse circuits then ? guess they are not meant .. anyway what about Bathurst ? will that track be in it also ? Andreas Nystrom wrote:

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> Ok, lets see it this way. > STCC2 is the base for the V8-game. Even some of the tracks from STCC2 is > still in the V8 game. Yes, you will be racing > Swedish tracks in the australian racegame. I dont see why they would remove > the multiplayer from the code, since its already there. > It works great with 20players on cable . The most ive raced with modem was > 12people, and it worked good. > > Another thing is that you can disable the collision-detection of the cars in > STCC2, so you can race against eachother even if someone > has a real crap connection. Its kind of hotlapping against eachother with > everyone at the same time around you. Great fun actually :) > Its no big deal if one or 2 cars warp around the track, cause its not going > to hurt you. > > One thing I like with Rally Masters online, is that you can select to play 5 > races against eachother, and each one you get points if you win, etc. > And after the 5 races you see who is the master. Sometimes you race all cars > at the same time, and sometimes you go on these special stages, where > 2 against 2 races, and then the 2 best races against eachother etc. > One more thing is that you dont have to go thru a boring 1hour practice > before start :) > > "Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > my bottle is empty now, so I can step away from it quite safely ... or > actually > > .. sort of dizzy > > > > roflol .. so you are saying EA V8 Challenge WILL have good multi... come > on .. > > lets end this crap > > > > I think everybody else got the message - dont mind me ... ;) > > > > Ashley McConnell wrote: > > > > > Tony, > > > > > > Put the bottle down :) > > > > > > ....EA V8 Challenge...ok? *has* good multiplayer.......wait for > it...... > > > > > > ...because Swedish....Touring....Car...Championship....also had good > > > multiplayer > > > > > > ...now step away from the bottle :) > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > "Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > so, STCC2 hasn't got good multiplayer, cause it had good multiplayer ? > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > Ashley McConnell wrote: > > > > > > > > > He is talking about a game that was released in the past by the same > > > > > development team, why wouldnt he say *had*? What Jan is saying is > that > > > > > because STCC2 *had* good multiplayer, V8 challenge will also *have* > good > > > > > multiplayer :) its not complicated :) > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > http://www.siroccoracing.com > > > > > > > > > > "Tony Van Cauter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > -- > > > > rgds, > > Tony > > > > > >

-- rgds, Tony