Video card question

Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg. system specs: P3 600 128 MB RAM NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB how do I find what type of motherboard I've got?

Neither unless you plan on upgrading that cpu anytime soon. Any card of that caliber is wasted on that system. I have a PIII 600 as well, and those cards are way overkill. I bought a GF2 MX400 which is much better matched to the capabilities of the rest of your system. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Brad Larocque <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the > Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd > even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg. > > system specs: > > P3 600 > 128 MB RAM > NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB > how do I find what type of motherboard I've got? >

Thanks Biz, but what about a GF3 if I can find one? Biz wrote:

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> Neither unless you plan on upgrading that cpu anytime soon. Any card of that caliber is wasted on > that system. I have a PIII 600 as well, and those cards are way overkill. I bought a GF2 MX400 > which is much better matched to the capabilities of the rest of your system. > -- > Biz > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and > the....." - Ash > > > Brad Larocque <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >>Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the >>Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd >>even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg. >> >>system specs: >> >>P3 600 >>128 MB RAM >>NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB >>how do I find what type of motherboard I've got? >> >> > >

One other Q. What sort of fps are you getting and with what kind of detail levels? I'm curious for games like N4, GPL, F12001 (I still have cs2k myself but using this for reference) any first person action games? (cant get away from Jedi Knight 2 for anything at the moment). Biz wrote:

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> Neither unless you plan on upgrading that cpu anytime soon. Any card of that caliber is wasted on > that system. I have a PIII 600 as well, and those cards are way overkill. I bought a GF2 MX400 > which is much better matched to the capabilities of the rest of your system. > -- > Biz > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and > the....." - Ash > > > Brad Larocque <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >>Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the >>Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd >>even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg. >> >>system specs: >> >>P3 600 >>128 MB RAM >>NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB >>how do I find what type of motherboard I've got? >> >> > >

Your cpu wouldn't do a GF4 justice. I will warn you away from the MX versions of the GF4. It's really just an overclocked GF2 so it can't even run all the DX8 features like the GF3 & (other)4's can. A GF 3 ti 200 or 500 would be a good fit with your cpu.... Good luck. dave henrie "Brad Larocque" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> One other Q. What sort of fps are you getting and with what kind of > detail levels? > I'm curious for games like N4, GPL, F12001 (I still have cs2k myself but > using this for reference) any first person action games? (cant get away > from Jedi Knight 2 for anything at the moment). > > Biz wrote: > > > Neither unless you plan on upgrading that cpu anytime soon. Any card of

that caliber is wasted on > > that system. I have a PIII 600 as well, and those cards are wayoverkill. I bought a GF2 MX400 > > which is much better matched to the capabilities of the rest of yoursystem. > > -- > > Biz > > > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecularstructures,....and > > the....." - Ash > > > > > > Brad Larocque <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:[email hidden]...

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> > > >>Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the > >>Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd > >>even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg. > >> > >>system specs: > >> > >>P3 600 > >>128 MB RAM > >>NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB > >>how do I find what type of motherboard I've got? > >> > >> > > > > >

Depends on what yer playing. If you play mostly older games (GPL, NH, N4, SCGT, Viper, etc.), then the best thing is to get the most GF2 you can afford (the hottest GF2 was the Ultra, now well under $100). If you play the latest games (basically, the ones that come with DX8.1 on the install disc), then go for any GF3 but the totally lame MX series. The Raedon is a good general-purpose choice, but not skewed as much toward gaming as the nVidia offerings. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nyOu8.19897$[email hidden]...

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> Your cpu wouldn't do a GF4 justice. I will warn you away from the MX > versions of the GF4. It's really just an overclocked GF2 so it can't even > run all the DX8 features like the GF3 & (other)4's can. > A GF 3 ti 200 or 500 would be a good fit with your cpu.... > Good luck. > dave henrie > "Brad Larocque" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > One other Q. What sort of fps are you getting and with what kind of > > detail levels? > > I'm curious for games like N4, GPL, F12001 (I still have cs2k myself but > > using this for reference) any first person action games? (cant get away > > from Jedi Knight 2 for anything at the moment). > > > > Biz wrote: > > > > > Neither unless you plan on upgrading that cpu anytime soon. Any card

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> that caliber is wasted on > > > that system. I have a PIII 600 as well, and those cards are way > overkill. I bought a GF2 MX400 > > > which is much better matched to the capabilities of the rest of your > system. > > > -- > > > Biz > > > > > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > > > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular > structures,....and > > > the....." - Ash > > > > > > > > > Brad Larocque <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > >>Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the > > >>Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run.

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> > >>even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg. > > >> > > >>system specs: > > >> > > >>P3 600 > > >>128 MB RAM > > >>NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB > > >>how do I find what type of motherboard I've got? > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > >

"Brad Larocque" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the > Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd > even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg. > > system specs: > > P3 600 > 128 MB RAM > NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB > how do I find what type of motherboard I've got? >

OT... You wouldn't be related to Denis in Jasper, would you? Robin

Possible. My dad is just 1 of 15 kids (no twins either OUCH!) I'll check it out Robin wrote:

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> "Brad Larocque" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >>Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the >>Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd >>even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg. >> >>system specs: >> >>P3 600 >>128 MB RAM >>NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB >>how do I find what type of motherboard I've got? >> >> > OT... > You wouldn't be related to Denis in Jasper, would you? > Robin > > >

"Brad Larocque" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Possible. My dad is just 1 of 15 kids (no twins either OUCH!) I'll check > it out >Small (virtual) world if you are... Denis is a friend of mine and I guess the last name could be common in certain areas but he's the only one in the phonebook here. Moved here from Rainy River, I believe. Robin

I would wait for the GeForce4 Ti4200 which will be available at the end of April, beginning of May. That's what I am going to replace my Voodoo 5500 AGP with. It will be available for ~$150 with 64MB. Another good choice would be a GeForce3 Gainward Ti200 Golden Sample 64MB (~$130). I myself am considering both of these cards. I just recently upgraded mt Asus P2B/Cel566@850 to a MSI K7T Turbo2 and XP1600+ (So I could use my PC133). I am happy with the speed increase but the Voodoo is still holding me back IMO especially graphically in Nascar 2002. With your current processor and setup, I don't think you will see a big difference between a GF3 and GF4 but if you plan on upgrading processor in the future you might go GF4 Ti4200 since it is around$30-$50 more. Brad Larocque <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the > Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd > even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg. > > system specs: > > P3 600 > 128 MB RAM > NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB > how do I find what type of motherboard I've got? >

If you mean Rainy River Ontario, then there is a BIG chance. My dad comes from Pinewood, just down the road from Rainy River. Robin wrote:

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> "Brad Larocque" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >>Possible. My dad is just 1 of 15 kids (no twins either OUCH!) I'll check >>it out >> >> > Small (virtual) world if you are... Denis is a friend of mine and I guess > the last name could be common in certain areas but he's the only one in the > phonebook here. Moved here from Rainy River, I believe. > Robin > > >

Robin, I just checked with my dad. Denis is my dad's cousin's son. Denis' brother Darcy was in a couple classes in univerity with me too Robin wrote:

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> "Brad Larocque" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >>Possible. My dad is just 1 of 15 kids (no twins either OUCH!) I'll check >>it out >> >> > Small (virtual) world if you are... Denis is a friend of mine and I guess > the last name could be common in certain areas but he's the only one in the > phonebook here. Moved here from Rainy River, I believe. > Robin > > >

"Brad Larocque" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Robin, I just checked with my dad. Denis is my dad's cousin's son. > Denis' brother Darcy was in a couple classes in univerity with me too > >Wow, if you ever see Darcy ask him if he remembers the guy at the Jasper Heritage Folkfest who got him to get some info on the bands. I was working for a local paper at the time and he wanted to get "backstage" so I gave him my press pass and told him he had to earn it by getting me some info. Say hi for me. Regards, Robin

I was checking a local (and reputable) computer pasrts store website and they have a MSI GE3 ti200 with 128MB DDR for $285 Cdn. They also have a Hurcules GF3 Ti200 with 64 MB for $305. Obviously the MSI card is a better deal, but is is a good card. SHould I keep looking? Brad Larocque wrote:

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> Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the > Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd > even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg. > > system specs: > > P3 600 > 128 MB RAM > NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB > how do I find what type of motherboard I've got? >

dammit! One thing I forgot to ask is with my system, would I get smooth framerates on N4, GPL, NHL 2001, etc. with all settings maxed, or would I still have to tone down some of the fine details? Brad Larocque wrote:

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> Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the > Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd > even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg. > > system specs: > > P3 600 > 128 MB RAM > NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB > how do I find what type of motherboard I've got? >

I would guess no. I have a P4 1.9 with 384 ram and GF2 Ultra. Running NR2002 at 1600X1200X16 I can't run with all eye candy on and maintain 30fps at all tracks and situations. (close though) I would highly recommend upgrading your computer first. But if that is not an option, I would buy the best video card you can afford. It will be overkill now, but you can always put it in your new system. Otherwise, when you upgrade your computer, you will want a new video card again. Gary Brad Larocque wrote:

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> dammit! One thing I forgot to ask is with my system, would I get smooth > framerates on N4, GPL, NHL 2001, etc. with all settings maxed, or would > I still have to tone down some of the fine details? > > Brad Larocque wrote: > > > Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the > > Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd > > even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg. > > > > system specs: > > > > P3 600 > > 128 MB RAM > > NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB > > how do I find what type of motherboard I've got? > >

I would just say this, I went from Voodoo1 to Voodoo2 to Voodoo3 to Voodoo5, Said F&^ck NVIDIA and went for the ATI8500, Have never looked back, I love it. My brother has an NV3 card that is some overclocked piece of crap, twice the money and does not come close to the 8500 in my opinion . Dave B "Brad Larocque" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I was checking a local (and reputable) computer pasrts store website and > they have a MSI GE3 ti200 with 128MB DDR for $285 Cdn. They also have a > Hurcules GF3 Ti200 with 64 MB for $305. Obviously the MSI card is a > better deal, but is is a good card. SHould I keep looking? > > Brad Larocque wrote: > > > Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the > > Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd > > even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg. > > > > system specs: > > > > P3 600 > > 128 MB RAM > > NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB > > how do I find what type of motherboard I've got? > > >

Agreed, most racing sims tend to be very demanding on the CPU, much more so than other 3d games. So your CPU will be holding you back a fair way. Go for a GF3 or the Radeon 8500 for now, then upgrade your mobo/CPU in the future (when funds allow). GF4s are too expensive ATM. Rafe Mc On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 05:34:17 GMT, Gary Kulas <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I would guess no. I have a P4 1.9 with 384 ram and GF2 Ultra. Running >NR2002 at 1600X1200X16 I can't run with all eye candy on and maintain 30fps >at all tracks and situations. (close though) I would highly recommend >upgrading your computer first. >But if that is not an option, I would buy the best video card you can >afford. It will be overkill now, but you can always put it in your new >system. Otherwise, when you upgrade your computer, you will want a new video >card again. > >Gary > >Brad Larocque wrote: > >> dammit! One thing I forgot to ask is with my system, would I get smooth >> framerates on N4, GPL, NHL 2001, etc. with all settings maxed, or would >> I still have to tone down some of the fine details? >> >> Brad Larocque wrote: >> >> > Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the >> > Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd >> > even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg. >> > >> > system specs: >> > >> > P3 600 >> > 128 MB RAM >> > NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB >> > how do I find what type of motherboard I've got? >> >

XP1700 Athlon. While it helped I wasnt that impressed with improved framerate when I went from a Radeon 8500 to the GF4 4600 about a week ago. That is UNTIL i turned on 4X full screen antialising. WOW! The radeon chokes completely and totally, even on 2X. While the GF4 takes a hit, I was amazed at how strong the framerate still is. 1024X768 4X antialising and the only thing I don't run on the graphics features is Ansiotropic filtering. I can run that on a few tracks but at the back of the field on some turns it chops a bit. I just cut it off cuz it doesn't need it. Never go below 36 Fps. With 4X FSAA this games is freakin beautiful. "Brad Larocque" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the > Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd > even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg. > > system specs: > > P3 600 > 128 MB RAM > NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB > how do I find what type of motherboard I've got? >