Only a handful compared to the first race, and I think there was only
one caution. It wasn't nearly as interesting because everyone was so
spread out, and the setup wasn't exactly accomodating.
The best part of the race was Dave running out of gas as he came out of
turn 2 on the last lap. Not only did I get my lap back as he ran out of
gas, but I also got to the finishline ahead of him on the next lap.
My LPI is not above 20 with the help of both of today's races.
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Sparse RASCAR race at California ends with fuel drama
Only a handful of drivers took part in the RASCAR race at California, which was spread out and had one caution. David G Fisher ran out of fuel on the last lap while leading by 15 seconds, having been unable to pit because B Farmer, who had taken a splash of fuel during an extra stop, was still on the lead lap. Memory-testing tools were also discussed as a fix for lockups.
online racing/leaguesNASCAR Racing 2002 Season
Automated summary.
The best part? :-)
I had a 15 sec lead and supposedly had enough gas but even with taking it
easy the last few laps, I still ran out with about a half a lap left.
The reason I couldn't pit was because BFarmer was on the lead lap with me.
He pitted twice during the first yellow and may have gottern fuel the second
time (not sure) so he had just that tiny bit more than me. Either that or he
simply burned less fuel during the race. If I had pitted I could of gotten a
safe second but I decided to go for the win instead. It was fun, and I don't
regret it.
For anyone who cares or who has similiar problems with freezes, I finally
solved my screen freeze issue. I had 320 megs of ram with 2 128 sticks and 1
64 meg stick. I took out the 64 megs and put in a new 128 (now 384 total)
and didn't have one freeze at all today. Problem solved it seems.
David G Fisher
"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Only a handful compared to the first race, and I think there was only > one caution. It wasn't nearly as interesting because everyone was so > spread out, and the setup wasn't exactly accomodating. > > The best part of the race was Dave running out of gas as he came out of > turn 2 on the last lap. Not only did I get my lap back as he ran out of > gas, but I also got to the finishline ahead of him on the next lap. > > My LPI is not above 20 with the help of both of today's races. > > > -- > ========================================================= > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > > Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > ========================================================= > same thing as me...I swapped out the memory chip and got rid of the
freezes...there ought to be a way to diagnose bad memory...
dave henrie
"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:Pxow8.125859$[email hidden]...
second
> time (not sure) so he had just that tiny bit more than me. Either that orhe
> simply burned less fuel during the race. If I had pitted I could of gottena
> safe second but I decided to go for the win instead. It was fun, and Idon't
> regret it.
>
> For anyone who cares or who has similiar problems with freezes, I finally
> solved my screen freeze issue. I had 320 megs of ram with 2 128 sticks and1
Quoted text (7 lines)
> The best part? :-) > > I had a 15 sec lead and supposedly had enough gas but even with taking it > easy the last few laps, I still ran out with about a half a lap left. > > The reason I couldn't pit was because BFarmer was on the lead lap with me. > He pitted twice during the first yellow and may have gottern fuel theQuoted text (38 lines)
> 64 meg stick. I took out the 64 megs and put in a new 128 (now 384 total) > and didn't have one freeze at all today. Problem solved it seems. > > David G Fisher > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Only a handful compared to the first race, and I think there was only > > one caution. It wasn't nearly as interesting because everyone was so > > spread out, and the setup wasn't exactly accomodating. > > > > The best part of the race was Dave running out of gas as he came out of > > turn 2 on the last lap. Not only did I get my lap back as he ran out of > > gas, but I also got to the finishline ahead of him on the next lap. > > > > My LPI is not above 20 with the help of both of today's races. > > > > > > -- > > ========================================================= > > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > > > > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > > > > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > > > > Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) > > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > > ========================================================= > > > >
"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Sorry for missing yesterday's races. I went to see my football team, Notts
County, avoid relegation to the bottom division in English football. After
the relief of avoiding the drop I was too hyped up to feel like racing.
I'll be back on track next week I hope.
Phil
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> Only a handful compared to the first race, and I think there was only > one caution. It wasn't nearly as interesting because everyone was so > spread out, and the setup wasn't exactly accomodating. > > The best part of the race was Dave running out of gas as he came out of > turn 2 on the last lap. Not only did I get my lap back as he ran out of > gas, but I also got to the finishline ahead of him on the next lap. > > My LPI is not above 20 with the help of both of today's races. >
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:dEsw8.47231$[email hidden]...
> same thing as me...I swapped out the memory chip and got rid of the
> freezes...there ought to be a way to diagnose bad memory...
> dave henrie
Only freezes I had though were with N2002.
David G Fisher
> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:Pxow8.125859$[email hidden]...
> > The best part? :-)
> >
> > I had a 15 sec lead and supposedly had enough gas but even with takingit
> > easy the last few laps, I still ran out with about a half a lap left.
> >
> > The reason I couldn't pit was because BFarmer was on the lead lap withme.
> > He pitted twice during the first yellow and may have gottern fuel the
> second
> > time (not sure) so he had just that tiny bit more than me. Either thator
> he
> > simply burned less fuel during the race. If I had pitted I could ofgotten
> a
> > safe second but I decided to go for the win instead. It was fun, and I
> don't
> > regret it.
> >
> > For anyone who cares or who has similiar problems with freezes, Ifinally
> > solved my screen freeze issue. I had 320 megs of ram with 2 128 sticksand
> 1
> > 64 meg stick. I took out the 64 megs and put in a new 128 (now 384total)
of
> > > turn 2 on the last lap. Not only did I get my lap back as he ran outof
Quoted text (11 lines)
> > and didn't have one freeze at all today. Problem solved it seems. > > > > David G Fisher > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Only a handful compared to the first race, and I think there was only > > > one caution. It wasn't nearly as interesting because everyone was so > > > spread out, and the setup wasn't exactly accomodating. > > > > > > The best part of the race was Dave running out of gas as he came outQuoted text (28 lines)
> > > gas, but I also got to the finishline ahead of him on the next lap. > > > > > > My LPI is not above 20 with the help of both of today's races. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ========================================================= > > > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > > > > > > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > > > > > > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > > > > > > Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > > > > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > > > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > > > ========================================================= > > > > > > > > > >
"Dave Henrie"wrote...
> same thing as me...I swapped out the memory chip and got
> rid of the freezes...there ought to be a way to diagnose
> bad memory...
> dave henrie
There used to be... a program called RAMexam, but I don't know if it can
cope with todays MB's and ram sizes/speeds.
Jan.
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"Phil Lee" wrote...
> <snip>
> Sorry for missing yesterday's races. <snip>
Please excuse my absence as well. I brought in some stuff to do for work...
Jan.
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There is a way to diagnose it - run NR2K2...
In article <dEsw8.47231$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...
> same thing as me...I swapped out the memory chip and got rid of the
> freezes...there ought to be a way to diagnose bad memory...
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DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends
http://www.paddedwall.org/demons
DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development)
http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2
Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting)
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Hi Dave,
it doesn't have to have been a bad memory chip.
You know how a mobo will be using the fastest bank interleave scheme with
just two sticks in and get slower with a third stick in. It could be that
with a third stick of a different size put in, and perhaps different timings
as well, the RAM access just got a lot slower overall.
Anyway David, I'm glad you found the prob and could fix it.
Achim
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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it
> > easy the last few laps, I still ran out with about a half a lap left.
> >
> > The reason I couldn't pit was because BFarmer was on the lead lap withme.
> > He pitted twice during the first yellow and may have gottern fuel the
> second
> > time (not sure) so he had just that tiny bit more than me. Either thator
> he
> > simply burned less fuel during the race. If I had pitted I could ofgotten
> a
> > safe second but I decided to go for the win instead. It was fun, and I
> don't
> > regret it.
> >
> > For anyone who cares or who has similiar problems with freezes, Ifinally
> > solved my screen freeze issue. I had 320 megs of ram with 2 128 sticksand
> 1
> > 64 meg stick. I took out the 64 megs and put in a new 128 (now 384total)
of
> > > turn 2 on the last lap. Not only did I get my lap back as he ran outof
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> same thing as me...I swapped out the memory chip and got rid of the > freezes...there ought to be a way to diagnose bad memory... > dave henrie > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Pxow8.125859$[email hidden]... > > The best part? :-) > > > > I had a 15 sec lead and supposedly had enough gas but even with takingQuoted text (11 lines)
> > and didn't have one freeze at all today. Problem solved it seems. > > > > David G Fisher > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Only a handful compared to the first race, and I think there was only > > > one caution. It wasn't nearly as interesting because everyone was so > > > spread out, and the setup wasn't exactly accomodating. > > > > > > The best part of the race was Dave running out of gas as he came outQuoted text (27 lines)
> > > gas, but I also got to the finishline ahead of him on the next lap. > > > > > > My LPI is not above 20 with the help of both of today's races. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ========================================================= > > > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > > > > > > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > > > > > > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > > > > > > Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > > > > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > > > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > > > ========================================================= > > > > > > > > >In one of the leagues I race in, one of the fellows had a similar problem.
His machine would lock up, but only when running GPL.
He solved the problem when he went to :
www.simmtester.com
He downloaded DocMemory and it showed a bad module. He got a new one and
viola! no more lock ups.
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Member:
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GPL Rank + 22.059
MoGPL Rank + 369.86
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Busch Motorsports:
Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward
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Busch Carpentry:
Plans? Oh, you mean that napkin sketch?
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In one of the leagues I race in, one of the fellows had a similar problem.
His machine would lock up, but only when running GPL.
He solved the problem when he went to :
www.simmtester.com
He downloaded DocMemory and it showed a bad module. He got a new one and
viola! no more lock ups.
--
Richard "ZZ" Busch
Member:
Screamers Racing League
GPL Rank + 22.059
MoGPL Rank + 369.86
http://www.ZZBusch.com
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Busch Motorsports:
Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward
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Busch Carpentry:
Plans? Oh, you mean that napkin sketch?
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I probably won't be making these in the future anymore,
fwiw...........working six days a week, and coming home from work on
Saturday to join a race soon after getting home is pressing things a bit :)
-John
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Notts
> County, avoid relegation to the bottom division in English football.After
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> > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Only a handful compared to the first race, and I think there was only > > one caution. It wasn't nearly as interesting because everyone was so > > spread out, and the setup wasn't exactly accomodating. > > > > The best part of the race was Dave running out of gas as he came out of > > turn 2 on the last lap. Not only did I get my lap back as he ran out of > > gas, but I also got to the finishline ahead of him on the next lap. > > > > My LPI is not above 20 with the help of both of today's races. > > > > > Sorry for missing yesterday's races. I went to see my football team,Quoted text (9 lines)
> the relief of avoiding the drop I was too hyped up to feel like racing. > I'll be back on track next week I hope. > > Phil > --- > Racesim Central Administrator > http://www.racesimcentral.com > >> He downloaded DocMemory and it showed a bad module. He got a new one and
> viola!
So how many memory modules does it take for a full orchestra :-)
In article <[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren"
<[email hidden]> writes:
>"Phil Lee" wrote...
>> <snip>
>> Sorry for missing yesterday's races. <snip>
>
>Please excuse my absence as well. I brought in some stuff to do for work...
Well, I'm glad they had fun anyway...<g> I missed the races because I had a
MoG race at Spa. Finished 9th.
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> I probably won't be making these in the future anymore,
>fwiw...........working six days a week, and coming home from work on
>Saturday to join a race soon after getting home is pressing things a bit :)
Aw man, that sucks... :(
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> <snip>
> Well, I'm glad they had fun anyway...<g> I missed the races because
> I had a MoG race at Spa. Finished 9th.
Nice going there mr. P.
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>"EldredP" wrote...
>> <snip>
>> Well, I'm glad they had fun anyway...<g> I missed the races because
>> I had a MoG race at Spa. Finished 9th.
>
>Nice going there mr. P.
Thanks!
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Thanks again for the races Eldred, and nice job in the Ardennes :)
-John
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> > I probably won't be making these in the future anymore,
> >fwiw...........working six days a week, and coming home from work on
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> > Aw man, that sucks... :( > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > A friend of mine is involved in a fund-raiser walk-a-thon for research toYeah, Dave... I did get fuel the second time, tho it couldn't have been much.
That wasn't the reason for the second stop, tho. I had looped it in 3 & tagged
the wall & had to pit twice to fix the damage. Came out first time when pace
car was in turn 4 & chased around & pitted again. Dunno if I caused the yellow
or not, someone else apparently also crashed somewhere else on the track at
about the same time & said they needed a tow...
With ~56 laps left, checked F3 & had 56 laps fuel left, so I started to conserve
then. Didn't think I'd catch you, & was worried when you ran out of fuel that I
would, too.
I ran out on the cool down lap in turn 3.
Sometimes ya gotta be good... sometimes ya gotta be lucky ;)
Brian
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> The best part? :-) > > I had a 15 sec lead and supposedly had enough gas but even with taking it > easy the last few laps, I still ran out with about a half a lap left. > > The reason I couldn't pit was because BFarmer was on the lead lap with me. > He pitted twice during the first yellow and may have gottern fuel the second > time (not sure) so he had just that tiny bit more than me. Either that or he > simply burned less fuel during the race. If I had pitted I could of gotten a > safe second but I decided to go for the win instead. It was fun, and I don't > regret it. > > For anyone who cares or who has similiar problems with freezes, I finally > solved my screen freeze issue. I had 320 megs of ram with 2 128 sticks and 1 > 64 meg stick. I took out the 64 megs and put in a new 128 (now 384 total) > and didn't have one freeze at all today. Problem solved it seems. > > David G Fisher > >
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> Yeah, Dave... I did get fuel the second time, tho it couldn't have beenmuch.
>
> That wasn't the reason for the second stop, tho. I had looped it in 3 &tagged
> the wall & had to pit twice to fix the damage. Came out first time whenpace
> car was in turn 4 & chased around & pitted again. Dunno if I caused theyellow
> or not, someone else apparently also crashed somewhere else on the trackat
> about the same time & said they needed a tow...
>
> With ~56 laps left, checked F3 & had 56 laps fuel left, so I started toconserve
> then. Didn't think I'd catch you, & was worried when you ran out of fuelthat I
After viewing the replay, I thought you were just being very clever. :-)
That little splash of fuel you got in the second pit stop apparently was
just enough.
David G Fisher
>
> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:Pxow8.125859$[email hidden]...
> > The best part? :-)
> >
> > I had a 15 sec lead and supposedly had enough gas but even with takingit
> > easy the last few laps, I still ran out with about a half a lap left.
> >
> > The reason I couldn't pit was because BFarmer was on the lead lap withme.
> > He pitted twice during the first yellow and may have gottern fuel thesecond
> > time (not sure) so he had just that tiny bit more than me. Either thator he
> > simply burned less fuel during the race. If I had pitted I could ofgotten a
> > safe second but I decided to go for the win instead. It was fun, and Idon't
> > regret it.
> >
> > For anyone who cares or who has similiar problems with freezes, Ifinally
> > solved my screen freeze issue. I had 320 megs of ram with 2 128 sticksand 1
> > 64 meg stick. I took out the 64 megs and put in a new 128 (now 384total)


































