This Week's Rascar Races

I'd like to suggest Phoenix and Homestead. -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

I'd like to suggest Phoenix and Homestead. -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'd like to suggest Phoenix and Homestead. > > -- > ========================================================= A bit similar, John? Either is good, but can't we mix it up with a banked track, too? Just a suggestion :-)

We already did Phoenix as the second race after Dover. I'll suggest Talladega since it was just run by the real drivers yesterday. Texas or Kansas would be nice too. David G Fisher "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I'd like to suggest Phoenix and Homestead. > > -- > ========================================================= > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > RASCAR Roster > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > ========================================================= >

My vote goes for Kansas aswell... I had some good fun there in the one race I've done sofar... Other than that track... I'de like to see either a SS or the Glen... -- ed_

Homestead is ok by me Achim "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'd like to suggest Phoenix and Homestead.

Hmmm, I missed the Phoenix race. :) Okay, is Homestead and Dega okay with everyone?. Eldred, you watching? -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

Races this week: Homestead, then Talladega. I'm considering disabling yellows at Tally. Opinions? Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett A friend of mine is involved in a fund-raiser walk-a-thon for research to cure breast cancer. If you can, please go to my homepage and see how to make a donation. Thank you. Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Races this week: > Homestead, then Talladega. I'm considering disabling yellows at Tally. > Opinions? > > Eldred > I say leave them on... -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > Races this week: > > Homestead, then Talladega. I'm considering disabling yellows at Tally. > > Opinions? > > > > Eldred > > > > I say leave them on... >

Definitely leave yellows on otherwise you lose a lot of strategy elements. In the Fast Food TRacing League, a league I race in, we have had a lot of success with speeding up the pace car at tracks with very long and slow caution laps. We sped up the pace car to 55mph at the Glen on Monday and it helped a lot. Maybe you could speed the pace car up from 70mph to 100mph or so for the Tally race. You can do this in the track.ini file on the server by editing this section: [ ai_track ] pace_merge_from_pit_line_dlong = 300.000 pace_merge_to_pit_line_dlong = 3300.0000 pace_speed_limit_mph = 70 Cheers Phil -- Racesim Central Administrator http://www.racesimcentral.com

"Phil Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aa78sc$8ge1s$[email hidden]... > > In the Fast Food TRacing League, a league I race in, we have had a lot of Before anyone mentions the typo, that should be Racing, not TRacing. I had visions of 20 people sitting at their PC with a pencil and a sheet of tracing paper there for a moment. Phil -- Racesim Central Administrator http://www.racesimcentral.com

> > In the Fast Food TRacing League, a league I race in, we have had a lotof > > Before anyone mentions the typo, that should be Racing, not TRacing. I had > visions of 20 people sitting at their PC with a pencil and a sheet of > tracing paper there for a moment. I had visions of 20 people sitting at McDonalds with a Big Mac sitting on a sheet of drawing paper myself :)

"Phil Lee" wrote: > > In the Fast Food TRacing League, a league I race in, we have had a lot of > > Before anyone mentions the typo, that should be Racing, not TRacing. I had > visions of 20 people sitting at their PC with a pencil and a sheet of > tracing paper there for a moment. Darn - I got in a right mess tracing a big Mac. My son was leading with his rendition of quarter pounder with cheese when we decided it just wasn't fun - why would people do it? Then we saw your second post...

Yellows is a MUST imho... I mean thats what long races is all about.. May I suggest a 40% distance too? Btw, just had a race at Homestead.... awfully boring track - IMHO. -- ed_ > [email hidden] says... > > Races this week: > > Homestead, then Talladega. I'm considering disabling yellows at Tally. > > Opinions? > > > > Eldred

"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Q5Gx8.5574$[email hidden]... > Yellows is a MUST imho... > I mean thats what long races is all about.. > > May I suggest a 40% distance too? > > Btw, just had a race at Homestead.... awfully boring track - IMHO. I agree. David G Fisher

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> "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > Races this week: > > > Homestead, then Talladega. I'm considering disabling yellows at Tally. > > > Opinions? > > > > > > Eldred > > > > > > > I say leave them on... > > > > Definitely leave yellows on otherwise you lose a lot of strategy elements. > > In the Fast Food TRacing League, a league I race in, we have had a lot of > success with speeding up the pace car at tracks with very long and slow > caution laps. We sped up the pace car to 55mph at the Glen on Monday and it > helped a lot. Maybe you could speed the pace car up from 70mph to 100mph or > so for the Tally race. You can do this in the track.ini file on the server > by editing this section: > > [ ai_track ] > pace_merge_from_pit_line_dlong = 300.000 > pace_merge_to_pit_line_dlong = 3300.0000 > pace_speed_limit_mph = 70 > > Cheers > > Phil > -- > Racesim Central Administrator > http://www.racesimcentral.com > > >

I have to say that I don't like the idea of changing the way the sim works. Damage as a reuslt of high-speed wrecks at dega often require a lot of time to fix. If you increase the pace speed, anyone that has to make such a pit stop will automatically and permanently be removed from competitive track position. -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons <[email hidden]> writes: >I have to say that I don't like the idea of changing the way the sim >works. Damage as a reuslt of high-speed wrecks at dega often require a >lot of time to fix. If you increase the pace speed, anyone that has to >make such a pit stop will automatically and permanently be removed from >competitive track position. ...And that wouldn't have already been done by the wreck...?<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett A friend of mine is involved in a fund-raiser walk-a-thon for research to cure breast cancer. If you can, please go to my homepage and see how to make a donation. Thank you. Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <Q5Gx8.5574$[email hidden]>, "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> writes: >Yellows is a MUST imho... >I mean thats what long races is all about.. > >May I suggest a 40% distance too? > >Btw, just had a race at Homestead.... awfully boring track - IMHO. I was just recalling endless yellow flag laps at Pocono. I was trying to avoid that again. 40% at Tally, huh? We'll see. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett A friend of mine is involved in a fund-raiser walk-a-thon for research to cure breast cancer. If you can, please go to my homepage and see how to make a donation. Thank you. Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> In article <Q5Gx8.5574$[email hidden]>, "Ed Solheim" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Yellows is a MUST imho... > >I mean thats what long races is all about.. > > > >May I suggest a 40% distance too? > > > >Btw, just had a race at Homestead.... awfully boring track - IMHO. > > I was just recalling endless yellow flag laps at Pocono. I was trying to avoid > that again. 40% at Tally, huh? We'll see. > > Eldred >

But we didn't have endless yellow flags at Rockingham or California. I still say leave it alone. -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

Superspeedways is a very different game alltogether IMO... and yellows a big part of it as it allow us all to play abit with the strategy etc.. :) The longer the races the better. As a 'rule of the thumb' with regards to Yellows - I would llike them to be 'on' when the race is of such length/charather that pitting (for fuel *or* tires) is required/wanted. I see little point in using yellows for 10 lapper "sprint-race". -- ed_ "EldredP" writes: > > I was just recalling endless yellow flag laps at Pocono. I was trying to avoid > that again. 40% at Tally, huh? We'll see. >

My vote is to leave them on too. David G Fisher "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > In article <Q5Gx8.5574$[email hidden]>, "Ed Solheim" > > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >Yellows is a MUST imho... > > >I mean thats what long races is all about.. > > > > > >May I suggest a 40% distance too? > > > > > >Btw, just had a race at Homestead.... awfully boring track - IMHO. > > > > I was just recalling endless yellow flag laps at Pocono. I was trying

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> > that again. 40% at Tally, huh? We'll see. > > > > Eldred > > > > But we didn't have endless yellow flags at Rockingham or California. > > I still say leave it alone. > > > -- > ========================================================= > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > RASCAR Roster > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > ========================================================= >

I forgot to add, how about we run Talladega first? -- David G Fisher "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:oSLx8.183546$%[email hidden]... > My vote is to leave them on too. > > David G Fisher > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > In article <Q5Gx8.5574$[email hidden]>, "Ed Solheim" > > > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > > >Yellows is a MUST imho... > > > >I mean thats what long races is all about.. > > > > > > > >May I suggest a 40% distance too? > > > > > > > >Btw, just had a race at Homestead.... awfully boring track - IMHO. > > > > > > I was just recalling endless yellow flag laps at Pocono. I was trying > to avoid > > > that again. 40% at Tally, huh? We'll see. > > > > > > Eldred > > > > > > > But we didn't have endless yellow flags at Rockingham or California. > > > > I still say leave it alone. > > > > > > -- > > ========================================================= > > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > > RASCAR Roster > > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar > > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > > Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) > > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > > ========================================================= > > > > >

In article <S0Mx8.119904$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > I forgot to add, how about we run Talladega first? > -- Doesn't matter to me as long as everybody puts in some practice time at homestead before showing up. -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

I say leave yellows on please. BTW, How do you guys keep the back end from swinging around at the 1st turn at Homestead? With the fast setup my rear wants to swing out real bad. It seems I need to tiptoe into the turns. What kind of times is everyone doing at Homestead? 37.931 is my best so far with the fast setup. ZZ

I say leave yellows on please. BTW, How do you guys keep the back end from swinging around at the 1st turn at Homestead? With the fast setup my rear wants to swing out real bad. It seems I need to tiptoe into the turns. What kind of times is everyone doing at Homestead? 37.931 is my best so far with the fast setup. ZZ

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> I say leave yellows on please. > > BTW, How do you guys keep the back end from swinging around at the 1st turn > at Homestead? With the fast setup my rear wants to swing out real bad. > It seems I need to tiptoe into the turns. > > What kind of times is everyone doing at Homestead? > 37.931 is my best so far with the fast setup. >

Have you watched the driving lesson for homestead yet? You're probably going into the turns too hot and trying to compensate for the speed by braking too hard while you're turning the wheel. Smooth on the brakes (and if you lift in time, you don't need much brakes). You should be doing about 120-122mph as you progress through the turns. Any faster, and you'll drift high. I don't know what a 37.931 is in mph, but I'm doing consistent 143 mph laps under race conditions. -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >I have to say that I don't like the idea of changing the way the sim > >works. Damage as a reuslt of high-speed wrecks at dega often require a > >lot of time to fix. If you increase the pace speed, anyone that has to > >make such a pit stop will automatically and permanently be removed from > >competitive track position. > > ...And that wouldn't have already been done by the wreck...?<g>

Well, in theory, you could speed up the pace car to the point where a standard 4-tire stop causes you to go a lap down under yellow. Also, I ran a league race at Tally on Sunday and managed to survive a wreck with only minor damage early in the race, spent a minute fixing my car in the pits, and then worked my way back up from 15th to 4th before being shoved off the track again. I was somewhat surprised to see how competitive you can be at Tally with minor damage, considering the new damage model. Jason

In article <S0Mx8.119904$[email hidden]>, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: >I forgot to add, how about we run Talladega first? Why's that? Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett A friend of mine is involved in a fund-raiser walk-a-thon for research to cure breast cancer. If you can, please go to my homepage and see how to make a donation. Thank you. Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> I was just recalling endless yellow flag laps at Pocono. I was trying to >avoid >> that again. 40% at Tally, huh? We'll see. >> >> Eldred >> > >But we didn't have endless yellow flags at Rockingham or California. > >I still say leave it alone.

But those track are shorter. I was speaking from a "length of track" standpoint... Since most people seem to prefer the yellows, I'll leave them on... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett A friend of mine is involved in a fund-raiser walk-a-thon for research to cure breast cancer. If you can, please go to my homepage and see how to make a donation. Thank you. Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <u1Kx8.186$O%[email hidden]>, "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Superspeedways is a very different game alltogether IMO... and yellows a >big part of it as it allow us all to play abit with the strategy etc.. :) >The longer the races the better. > >As a 'rule of the thumb' with regards to Yellows - I would llike them to be >'on' when the race is of such length/charather that pitting (for fuel *or* >tires) is required/wanted. I see little point in using yellows for 10 >lapper "sprint-race". >

Ok, 40% at Talladega with yellows... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett A friend of mine is involved in a fund-raiser walk-a-thon for research to cure breast cancer. If you can, please go to my homepage and see how to make a donation. Thank you. Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <S0Mx8.119904$[email hidden]>, "DavidG

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> Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: > > >I forgot to add, how about we run Talladega first? > > Why's that? > > Eldred

So we have a bigger field. -- David G Fisher > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > A friend of mine is involved in a fund-raiser walk-a-thon for research to cure > breast cancer. If you can, please go to my homepage and see how to make a > donation. Thank you. > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. >

I did about 20 laps earlier with a 47.479 best. I didn't have any trouble in T1 with the rear. Just follow the ideal line using the r key. I use just a bit of brake on entry. It definitely is the kind of track where you ahve to tip toe through the turns unfortunately. David G Fisher "Richard "ZZ" Busch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:eLQx8.66832$[email hidden]... > I say leave yellows on please. > > BTW, How do you guys keep the back end from swinging around at the 1stturn

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> at Homestead? With the fast setup my rear wants to swing out real bad. > It seems I need to tiptoe into the turns. > > What kind of times is everyone doing at Homestead? > 37.931 is my best so far with the fast setup. > > ZZ > > >

I agree with Dave on this.... (wow, did I say just that!?!) ;-) -- ed_ "DGF" said: > > >I forgot to add, how about we run Talladega first? > > > > Why's that? > > > > So we have a bigger field.