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Sims with the Nordschleife

18 posts by 15 people · 30 Mar 2006 19:54 UTC - 02 Apr 2006 19:41 UTC

Tony Jester 30 Mar 2006 19:54 UTC#12335
What other sims besides GPL have the Nordschleife? Thanks.
"Tony Jester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vHWWf.8165$%[email hidden]... > What other sims besides GPL have the Nordschleife? Thanks. rFactor and GTL. -- David G Fisher
Where is the GTL version available from? "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> > "Tony Jester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:vHWWf.8165$%[email hidden]... > > What other sims besides GPL have the Nordschleife? Thanks. > > rFactor and GTL. > > > -- > David G Fisher > >
In article <vHWWf.8165$%[email hidden]>, "Tony Jester" <[email hidden]> wrote: >What other sims besides GPL have the Nordschleife? Thanks. At the risk of introducing the anti-console "it's not a sim" debate, the following console game/sims have it: PGR2 (XBOX) Forza (XBOX) Gran Turismo 4 (PS2) Enthusia (PS2) I play Forza and GT4 extensively. I think GT4's version is of considerably higher fidelity. And, IMHO, GT4 is worth the price of a PS2 alone.
Slash 31 Mar 2006 07:19 UTC↳ reply to Dave#12345
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:17:43 GMT, [email hidden] (Dave) scribbled:
Quoted text (15 lines)>In article <vHWWf.8165$%[email hidden]>, "Tony Jester" <[email hidden]> wrote: >>What other sims besides GPL have the Nordschleife? Thanks. > >At the risk of introducing the anti-console "it's not a sim" debate, >the following console game/sims have it: > >PGR2 (XBOX) >Forza (XBOX) >Gran Turismo 4 (PS2) >Enthusia (PS2) > >I play Forza and GT4 extensively. I think GT4's version is >of considerably higher fidelity. > >And, IMHO, GT4 is worth the price of a PS2 alone.
Project Gotham Racing 3 (PGR3) for the Xbox 360 also has it, and it's a hoot to drive. Looks quite good in HD as well. -Slash -- "Ebert Victorious" -The Onion
redTed 31 Mar 2006 07:28 UTC↳ reply to Dave#12346
"Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Xq%Wf.20531$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (16 lines)> In article <vHWWf.8165$%[email hidden]>, "Tony Jester" > <[email hidden]> wrote: >>What other sims besides GPL have the Nordschleife? Thanks. > > At the risk of introducing the anti-console "it's not a sim" debate, > the following console game/sims have it: > > PGR2 (XBOX) > Forza (XBOX) > Gran Turismo 4 (PS2) > Enthusia (PS2) > > I play Forza and GT4 extensively. I think GT4's version is > of considerably higher fidelity. > > And, IMHO, GT4 is worth the price of a PS2 alone.
GT4 was the poorest of the series by far. Very depressing as I was a huge fan of the other 3. Boost buttons ???? LOL PGR 2 absolutely creamed all over GT4.
Dave 31 Mar 2006 11:32 UTC↳ reply to redTed#12149
In article <442cda3b$0$20151$[email hidden]>, "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote: >GT4 was the poorest of the series by far. Very depressing as I was a huge >fan of the other 3. >Boost buttons ???? LOL >PGR 2 absolutely creamed all over GT4. Everyone has their opinion. I too was disappointed by GT4 in that it was only pretty much GT3 with more cars and tracks. In absolute terms, it is the best in the series. But they didn't raise the bar much. I admit I never finished GT4 whereas I did GT3, so that might be taken to mean I didn't like it as much. I did finish PGR2 (loved it) and Forza as well. But PGR2 is a too different animal than GT/Forza for a direct comparison. Suffice to say I bought all and consider them well worth it. And for the sim-inclined, PGR2 would likely lag the pack.
Jay J 31 Mar 2006 12:41 UTC↳ reply to KeithB#12150
Where can I download it for GTR? "KeithB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bG6Xf.588$[email hidden]... > Tony Jester wrote: >> What other sims besides GPL have the Nordschleife? Thanks. >> >> > GTR has it as an add-on.
KeithB 31 Mar 2006 13:13 UTC↳ reply to Jay J#12151
Jay J wrote:
Quoted text (11 lines)> Where can I download it for GTR? > > "KeithB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bG6Xf.588$[email hidden]... >> Tony Jester wrote: >>> What other sims besides GPL have the Nordschleife? Thanks. >>> >>> >> GTR has it as an add-on. > >
Race Sim Central forums is a good place for all sorts of race sim info: http://forum.rscnet.org/forum.php Thread for GTR track downloads: http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=218212 My preferred download site for GTR tracks (although they all deserve support): http://www.tyfdesk.com/gtrtracks.htm
Robin Lord 31 Mar 2006 15:41 UTC↳ reply to Dave#12155
>>GT4 was the poorest of the series by far. Physics wise poor It has the best in game representation of the Nordschleife I've seen though Problem is with all the PC ones is they tend to be imports of the GPL '67 version (which was inaccurate in a few spots eg hatzenbach 2) with new graphics Then on top of the inaccuracies, the track was changed at the start of the 70's, made wider/faster removing some of the jumps such as the straight and brunnchen, and of course there is no longer the start und ziel on the nordschleife these days The version that was released for SCGT had many of these issues sorted. Does anyone know if someones building an accurate version for any of the current PC sims? Robin
There are a few teams working on complete current-time Rings: Team GSMF is doing one for RFactor and si3v is doing one for netKar PRO. And monocosmos is working on a new one for GTR and RFactor (and maybe GTL). Current sims that have the Nordschleife: -GTL (an updated version of the GPL one, so '67 layout) -GTR (some different versions, all basing on the GPL one, best ist the Zurich 24, imho) -Racer (There's a modern layout version for Racer, but still based on the GPL one) -Racer (The 24H race layout version is currently being updated) -netKar 0.99 (a very incomplete port of the GPL one) -F1 Challenge (a GPL port and a 24H race layout: the GPL one and the Nurburgring GP track hacked together). I like the GTL and the Racer one the most, but unfortunately all are based on the old GPL layout... Robin Lord wrote:
Quoted text (18 lines)> >>GT4 was the poorest of the series by far. > > Physics wise poor > It has the best in game representation of the Nordschleife I've seen though > > Problem is with all the PC ones is they tend to be imports of the GPL '67 > version (which was inaccurate in a few spots eg hatzenbach 2) with new > graphics > Then on top of the inaccuracies, the track was changed at the start of the > 70's, made wider/faster removing some of the jumps such as the straight and > brunnchen, and of course there is no longer the start und ziel on the > nordschleife these days > > The version that was released for SCGT had many of these issues sorted. > Does anyone know if someones building an accurate version for any of the > current PC sims? > > Robin
"Tony Jester" <[email hidden]> writes: > What other sims besides GPL have the Nordschleife? Thanks. Shipped with the Ring? Not many. Add-on track? Quite a few. F1 Challenge is one of the best, in my opinion. GTP/N2003 aint bad either. /Andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

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