RASCAR: Trying to end the 3 digit number debate.

Check out this link to NASCAR.com It shows the entry list for this weeks BGN race at Richmond. Please note the bottom of the list, and the 7 cars that have entered with 3 digit numbers. http://www.nascar.com/races/bg/2002/10/data/entry_list.html So. It's official, 3 digit numbers are NASCAR legal. Brit btgoss

Who said they were illegal? -- ed_ > > > "btgoss" said: > > Check out this link to NASCAR.com > > > > http://www.nascar.com/races/bg/2002/10/data/entry_list.html > > > > So. It's official, 3 digit numbers are NASCAR legal. > ... > >

Just curious, who said anything about them being illegal? -- ed_ "btgoss" said: > Check out this link to NASCAR.com > http://www.nascar.com/races/bg/2002/10/data/entry_list.html > > So. It's official, 3 digit numbers are NASCAR legal.

> Just curious, who said anything about them being illegal? > > -- > ed_ well I'm not sure if he said they were illegal or not but its pretty obvious who has been throwing a fit over everyone's paint jobs. MadDAWG

Thanks for the info Brit. Achim "btgoss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cEcA8.93722$[email hidden]... > Check out this link to NASCAR.com > > It shows the entry list for this weeks BGN race at Richmond. > > Please note the bottom of the list, and the 7 cars that have entered with3 > digit numbers. > > http://www.nascar.com/races/bg/2002/10/data/entry_list.html > > So. It's official, 3 digit numbers are NASCAR legal....

In article <cEcA8.93722$[email hidden]>, "btgoss" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Check out this link to NASCAR.com > >It shows the entry list for this weeks BGN race at Richmond. > >Please note the bottom of the list, and the 7 cars that have entered with 3 >digit numbers. > >http://www.nascar.com/races/bg/2002/10/data/entry_list.html > >So. It's official, 3 digit numbers are NASCAR legal.

So? No one(to my knowledge) said that they WEREN'T legal. However, the person who has volunteered to compil the entry list and car set doesn't like 3-digit cars. Doesn't matter to me either way, but I can respect his opinion. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett A friend of mine is involved in a fund-raiser walk-a-thon for research to cure breast cancer. If you can, please go to my homepage and see how to make a donation. Thank you. Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I just re-read my original post, and it came off a bit harsh perhaps. I was just trying to be a bit sarcastic, and of course forgot to include some html <sarcasm> tags. Someone had voiced displeasure with the 3 digit numbers, in reference to them not being "in character" with officially accepted numbers from NASCAR. And I just thought is was funny to look at that entry list, reminds me of the entry list in a Sierra Pick-Up race. But to my knowledge no one has said they are illegal. I wish we could use letter and numbers on our cars. Then I could run a famous number for the Boston area. 4Q. Brit btgoss "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <cEcA8.93722$[email hidden]>, "btgoss" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Check out this link to NASCAR.com > > > >It shows the entry list for this weeks BGN race at Richmond. > > > >Please note the bottom of the list, and the 7 cars that have entered with

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> >digit numbers. > > > >http://www.nascar.com/races/bg/2002/10/data/entry_list.html > > > >So. It's official, 3 digit numbers are NASCAR legal. > > So? No one(to my knowledge) said that they WEREN'T legal. However, the

person > who has volunteered to compil the entry list and car set doesn't like3-digit > cars. Doesn't matter to me either way, but I can respect his opinion. > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > A friend of mine is involved in a fund-raiser walk-a-thon for research tocure > breast cancer. If you can, please go to my homepage and see how to make a > donation. Thank you. > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

NASCAR didn't allow Darrell Waltrip to run the #300 in '98, so it was illegal. "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jRdA8.4$[email hidden]...

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> Who said they were illegal? > > -- > ed_ > > > > > > "btgoss" said: > > > > Check out this link to NASCAR.com > > > > > > http://www.nascar.com/races/bg/2002/10/data/entry_list.html > > > > > > So. It's official, 3 digit numbers are NASCAR legal. > > ... > > > > >

NASCAR didn't allow Darrell Waltrip to run the #300 in '98, so it was illegal. "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NOeA8.9504$[email hidden]...

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> Just curious, who said anything about them being illegal? > > -- > ed_ > > "btgoss" said: > > Check out this link to NASCAR.com > > > http://www.nascar.com/races/bg/2002/10/data/entry_list.html > > > > So. It's official, 3 digit numbers are NASCAR legal. > > >

"Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6rgA8.13366$[email hidden]... > NASCAR didn't allow Darrell Waltrip to run the #300 in '98, so it was > illegal. Actually, I think NASCAR said no numbers 200 or above when DW tried to run Tim Flock's old number a while back. I think 3 digit numbers in the 100's are acceptable though somewhat rare.

Why don't we give this thread a single digit salute? ;-) It's a joke boy, I say, a joke. < Foghorn Leghorn quote -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League GPL Rank + 22.059 MoGPL Rank + 366.68 http://www.ZZBusch.com ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: A good carpenter can nail anything -----------------

Why don't we give this thread a single digit salute? ;-) It's a joke boy, I say, a joke. < Foghorn Leghorn quote -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League GPL Rank + 22.059 MoGPL Rank + 366.68 http://www.ZZBusch.com ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: A good carpenter can nail anything -----------------

I never said it wasn't legal. I just said it wasn't *typical*, and that's Busch, NOT Winston Cup... Besides that, the reasons I cited for not using 3-digit numbers (1xx and 3xx) were sim-related. In article <cEcA8.93722$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> Check out this link to NASCAR.com > > It shows the entry list for this weeks BGN race at Richmond. > > Please note the bottom of the list, and the 7 cars that have entered with 3 > digit numbers. > > http://www.nascar.com/races/bg/2002/10/data/entry_list.html > > So. It's official, 3 digit numbers are NASCAR legal. > > > Brit > btgoss > > > >

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> > Just curious, who said anything about them being illegal? > > > > -- > > ed_ > > well I'm not sure if he said they were illegal or not but its pretty obvious > who has been throwing a fit over everyone's paint jobs. > > MadDAWG >

Throwing a fit? I prefer to think of it as being very opinionated. Throwing a fit would be something along the lines of threatening not to race in RASCAR if everyone doesn't stop using 3-digit numbers. As far as paint jobs, (and remember, this is just my opinion) some of them are severely lacking in quality, completeness, and/or realism. I have three cars in the current RASCAR set that are nothing more than a single-color with a car number on them: A) I changed Ed's so I could see the number better - the car is darker and the number is yellow with red trim. B) I changed Tony Rickjard's, but only enough to see the numbers better. BTW Tony, what is that green snake thing on the side of your car? C) The green #99 and primer #45 are still in their original configurations, but I'll eventually get to them too (unless they come up with something new in the interim). I have two (or maybe three) that don't conform to nascar-mandated number positions/size. I haven't changed any of them. I made an offer to paint cars for people (and indeed have several that are already available), and some folks have taken me up on it (#1, #9, and #28). I even re-painted a couple without any formal (or informal) request by the drivers (#49, and #55) and posted them if they want to use them. I stopped saying anything about it and just taking care of it on my end. If there's a specific sponsor involved, I try to keep it, but I'm not adverse to just re-doing the whole car if I get compeletely annoyed with it. If I'm gonna be following everyone around during cautions, I at least want something pleasant and at least close to realistic to stare at. -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

John Simmons wrote: > > If I'm gonna be following everyone around during cautions, I at least > want something pleasant and at least close to realistic to stare at. ROFL, now that's the JS we all know and love :-) Sorry to disappoint you John, but "my" number has been taken, both of them, so my car will have a 3 digit number, 311 3 for Dale and 11 for Larry Perkins, a Castrol Commodore.....oh well, almost, Castrol Chevy, *with* the black hood :-), thx to all who pointed me in the right direction, found enough pics of Larry's early car to have it done properly Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

"John Simmons" wrote: > B) I changed Tony Rickard's, but only enough to see the numbers > better. BTW Tony, what is that green snake thing on the side of your > car? Well I guess I break all your stock car painting rules John. This car is an Alfa Romeo (not a Ford, Pontiac, Dodge or Chevrolet) so there is one rule broken. The numbers are as we see on touring cars or other car racing series in Europe. Recognition is by colour schemes and subtle differences (like door mirror colours or bumper trim) between team mates. The symbols of the Alfa Romeo badge are symbols of Milan - the snake is from the Visconti family crest that represented the virtues of military effort, i.e., to devour your enemy. The left part of the badge is the red cross on white background which recalls the heroic deeds of the Milanese Giovanni da Rho during the First Crusades of the 11th century ALFA stands for Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili - Romeo was added when Nicola Romeo took ownership of ALFA. Be prepared to be devoured... So pure fantasy John - the concept of pretty but fragile Alfa Romeos in Nascar seems rather far fetched - then again we have got used to Ferraris being more reliable than Mercedes in F1... Cheers Tony

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> As far as paint jobs, (and remember, this is just my opinion) some of > them are severely lacking in quality, completeness, and/or realism. > > I even re-painted a couple without any formal (or informal) request by > the drivers (#49, and #55) and posted them if they want to use them. > > I stopped saying anything about it and just taking care of it on my end. > If there's a specific sponsor involved, I try to keep it, but I'm not > adverse to just re-doing the whole car if I get compeletely annoyed with > it.

Touch mine, remember, and you're a dead man ;-))))))

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> I seek realism in the driving and will give anyone the best and most > realistic racing I'm capable of, and will permanently continue to > improve this aspect, but I think we can be a little forgiving in terms > of what everyone perceives as being a good looking car or what he > thinks symbolizes his own approach to racing best in terms of how he > paints his car. > > Achim

I agree with what you say, Achim, just for the record, I did not mind one bit "remaking" my skin (changed from 305 to 59) 59 was the first year of production of the mini so I kept a number with "meaning" for me. Besides, the 3 digit number was just a pain to line up on the sides nicely anyway. I *think* I followed the right "rules" for NASCAR stickering, and used the packs of contingency stickers because they looked a lot better than the ones I had anyway (had to find an image converter to get them out of psp format but no biggy). I like painting car skins (or more precisely, stickering up the excellent 2003 pontiac template I downloaded) so I enjoyed the excercise. Now I have done Badtz Maru, I have a compulsion to create the Hello Kitty Winston Cup team :o) Anyone want a nice pink n white car painting up? (worth a shot!) cheers John (JohnMid RASCAR #59)

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> "John Simmons" wrote: > > > B) I changed Tony Rickard's, but only enough to see the numbers > > better. BTW Tony, what is that green snake thing on the side of your > > car? > > Well I guess I break all your stock car painting rules John.

For me, they're rules, for everyone else, they're merely guidelines that everyone better damn well follow if they know what's good for them. :)

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> This car is an Alfa Romeo (not a Ford, Pontiac, Dodge or Chevrolet) so there is > one rule broken. > The numbers are as we see on touring cars or other car racing series in Europe. > Recognition is by colour schemes and subtle differences (like door mirror > colours or bumper trim) between team mates. > > The symbols of the Alfa Romeo badge are symbols of Milan - the snake is from the > Visconti family crest that represented the virtues of military effort, i.e., to > devour your enemy. The left part of the badge is the red cross on white > background which recalls the heroic deeds of the Milanese Giovanni da Rho during > the First Crusades of the 11th century > > ALFA stands for Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili - Romeo was added when > Nicola Romeo took ownership of ALFA. > > Be prepared to be devoured...

Allllll-rightie then. :) > So pure fantasy John - the concept of pretty but fragile Alfa Romeos in Nascar > seems rather far fetched - then again we have got used to Ferraris being more > reliable than Mercedes in F1... Pretty? :) -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

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> > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > As far as paint jobs, (and remember, this is just my opinion) some of > > them are severely lacking in quality, completeness, and/or realism. > > > > I even re-painted a couple without any formal (or informal) request by > > the drivers (#49, and #55) and posted them if they want to use them. > > > > I stopped saying anything about it and just taking care of it on my end. > > If there's a specific sponsor involved, I try to keep it, but I'm not > > adverse to just re-doing the whole car if I get compeletely annoyed with > > it. > > Touch mine, remember, and you're a dead man ;-)))))) >

I guess I'm lucky that yours looks good. :) -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

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> Are you using one of Giulio 'Automan' Lapedota's cars? > > Btw, while I'm very cooperative when it comes to practical purposes like > being able to see the numbers properly when approaching a car from behind, > or when someone tells me to use lighter colours because my car is difficult > to see against dark track surfaces, IMHO things go too far when people start > telling you to paint your car with a sponsor's logo or to put Decals on it > just because Nascars nowadays look like this. The paint I put on the car has > nothing to do with the quality of the races I will give someone, and this is > a racing sim and not a car painting sim.

It has EVERYTHING in the world to do with how well the guy races. :) And considering your're in a 3-digit numbered car, your racing is pretty decent, although I can tell that you're not yet quite accustomed to the "let the #43 car pass you on every lap" rule. I don't care if they put logos/decals on their car or not. I would simply like to see the numbers visible and in the right places. > I seek realism in the driving and will give anyone the best and most > realistic racing I'm capable of, and will permanently continue to improve > this aspect, but I think we can be a little forgiving in terms of what > everyone perceives as being a good looking car or what he thinks symbolizes > his own approach to racing best in terms of how he paints his car. Forgiving!? Never! Like "apologizing", it's a sign of weakness. :) -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

In other words , it's what's on the inside that counts, not the outside... correct? Edward Joachim Trensz wrote:

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> Are you using one of Giulio 'Automan' Lapedota's cars? > > Btw, while I'm very cooperative when it comes to practical purposes like > being able to see the numbers properly when approaching a car from behind, > or when someone tells me to use lighter colours because my car is difficult > to see against dark track surfaces, IMHO things go too far when people start > telling you to paint your car with a sponsor's logo or to put Decals on it > just because Nascars nowadays look like this. The paint I put on the car has > nothing to do with the quality of the races I will give someone, and this is > a racing sim and not a car painting sim. > > I seek realism in the driving and will give anyone the best and most > realistic racing I'm capable of, and will permanently continue to improve > this aspect, but I think we can be a little forgiving in terms of what > everyone perceives as being a good looking car or what he thinks symbolizes > his own approach to racing best in terms of how he paints his car. > > Achim > > > > "Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:WviA8.19176$[email hidden]... > >>"John Simmons" wrote: >> >> >>> B) I changed Tony Rickard's, but only enough to see the numbers >>>better. BTW Tony, what is that green snake thing on the side of your >>>car? >>> >>Well I guess I break all your stock car painting rules John. >> >>This car is an Alfa Romeo (not a Ford, Pontiac, Dodge or Chevrolet) so >> > there is > >>one rule broken. >>The numbers are as we see on touring cars or other car racing series in >> > Europe. > >>Recognition is by colour schemes and subtle differences (like door mirror >>colours or bumper trim) between team mates. >> >>The symbols of the Alfa Romeo badge are symbols of Milan - the snake is >> > from the > >>Visconti family crest that represented the virtues of military effort, >> > i.e., to > >>devour your enemy. The left part of the badge is the red cross on white >>background which recalls the heroic deeds of the Milanese Giovanni da Rho >> > during > >>the First Crusades of the 11th century >> >>ALFA stands for Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili - Romeo was added >> > when > >>Nicola Romeo took ownership of ALFA. >> >>Be prepared to be devoured... >> >>So pure fantasy John - the concept of pretty but fragile Alfa Romeos in >> > Nascar > >>seems rather far fetched - then again we have got used to Ferraris being >> > more > >>reliable than Mercedes in F1... >> >>Cheers >> >>Tony >> >> >> > >

<snip> > I wish we could use letter and numbers on our cars. Then I could run a > famous number for the Boston area. 4Q. > > Brit > btgoss 4Q is a classic short track car number, and around where I'm from, one of the most successful modifieds when I was growing up was the 2jr.......my dad sat me in it at the gas station where the owner worked, was pretty cool for an 8 yr old. Ed

I don't know about the busch series, but I remember hearing something on the show "Totally Nascar" that the numbers in the cup series had to be 2 digit numbers. I can maybe see why. I believe that the scoring pole or what ever it's called at the track only allows for 2 digits. Brian Oster On Thu, 02 May 2002 21:06:14 GMT, John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I never said it wasn't legal. I just said it wasn't *typical*, and >that's Busch, NOT Winston Cup... > >Besides that, the reasons I cited for not using 3-digit numbers (1xx and >3xx) were sim-related. > >In article <cEcA8.93722$[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] says... >> Check out this link to NASCAR.com >> >> It shows the entry list for this weeks BGN race at Richmond. >> >> Please note the bottom of the list, and the 7 cars that have entered with 3 >> digit numbers. >> >> http://www.nascar.com/races/bg/2002/10/data/entry_list.html >> >> So. It's official, 3 digit numbers are NASCAR legal. >> >> >> Brit >> btgoss >> >> >> >> > >-- >========================================================= >DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons >DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 >RASCAR Roster > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar >Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > http://www.paddedwall.org/john >Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > >If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown >above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. >=========================================================

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Are you using one of Giulio 'Automan' Lapedota's cars? Btw, while I'm very cooperative when it comes to practical purposes like being able to see the numbers properly when approaching a car from behind, or when someone tells me to use lighter colours because my car is difficult to see against dark track surfaces, IMHO things go too far when people start telling you to paint your car with a sponsor's logo or to put Decals on it just because Nascars nowadays look like this. The paint I put on the car has nothing to do with the quality of the races I will give someone, and this is a racing sim and not a car painting sim. I seek realism in the driving and will give anyone the best and most realistic racing I'm capable of, and will permanently continue to improve this aspect, but I think we can be a little forgiving in terms of what everyone perceives as being a good looking car or what he thinks symbolizes his own approach to racing best in terms of how he paints his car. Achim "Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:WviA8.19176$[email hidden]...

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> "John Simmons" wrote: > > > B) I changed Tony Rickard's, but only enough to see the numbers > > better. BTW Tony, what is that green snake thing on the side of your > > car? > > Well I guess I break all your stock car painting rules John. > > This car is an Alfa Romeo (not a Ford, Pontiac, Dodge or Chevrolet) so

there is > one rule broken. > The numbers are as we see on touring cars or other car racing series inEurope. > Recognition is by colour schemes and subtle differences (like door mirror > colours or bumper trim) between team mates. > > The symbols of the Alfa Romeo badge are symbols of Milan - the snake isfrom the > Visconti family crest that represented the virtues of military effort,i.e., to > devour your enemy. The left part of the badge is the red cross on white > background which recalls the heroic deeds of the Milanese Giovanni da Rhoduring > the First Crusades of the 11th century > > ALFA stands for Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili - Romeo was addedwhen > Nicola Romeo took ownership of ALFA. > > Be prepared to be devoured... > > So pure fantasy John - the concept of pretty but fragile Alfa Romeos inNascar > seems rather far fetched - then again we have got used to Ferraris beingmore

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> reliable than Mercedes in F1... > > Cheers > > Tony > >

"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message <snip> > As far as paint jobs, (and remember, this is just my opinion) some of > them are severely lacking in quality, completeness, and/or realism. > > I have three cars in the current RASCAR set that are nothing more than a > single-color with a car number on them: > <snip> > > C) The green #99 and primer #45 are still in their original > configurations, but I'll eventually get to them too (unless they come up > with something new in the interim). > Car #99 here. Feel free to do anything you like to my car. I just painted it as I did to give an honest (and hopefully funny) indication of my soon to be obvious "rookie" status here in RASCAR. My plan was to show up during practice sessions, drive a few laps and then start at the back of the grid. Then I would see if I could even race with any of the tailenders. If not. . . well nothing ventured . . . As long as I stayed out of the way while being lapped by the leaders I would cause no harm. Just hold my line, close my eyes and pray. :O) But then came race day last weekend and I got as far as finding the epickett server listed on my screen. . . and then I chickened out. I'd like a place to race against people with the same attitudes found here; good clean racing with sportsmanship prevailing (and the odd needle after the race) but I don't want to cause any problems on the track. It must be a generational thing (I'm older the most here) but I'd be more embarassed by making a mistake that took someone else out then he (she) would be angry for my doing so. I'll keep practicing against the AI during the week on the tracks to be used the following weekend and if I get a sudden burst of confidance I just might show up. Look for me in you mirror, but back . . . way back. elrikk (Mike Kay)

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> > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > <snip> > > > As far as paint jobs, (and remember, this is just my opinion) some of > > them are severely lacking in quality, completeness, and/or realism. > > > > I have three cars in the current RASCAR set that are nothing more than a > > single-color with a car number on them: > > > > <snip> > > > > > C) The green #99 and primer #45 are still in their original > > configurations, but I'll eventually get to them too (unless they come up > > with something new in the interim). > > > > Car #99 here. > > Feel free to do anything you like to my car. I just painted it as I did to > give an honest (and hopefully funny) indication of my soon to be obvious > "rookie" status here in RASCAR.

Everyone's a rookie, especially that Joachim guy. :)

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> My plan was to show up during practice sessions, drive a few laps and then > start at the back of the grid. Then I would see if I could even race with > any of the tailenders. If not. . . well nothing ventured . . . As long > as I stayed out of the way while being lapped by the leaders I would cause > no harm. Just hold my line, close my eyes and pray. :O) > > But then came race day last weekend and I got as far as finding the epickett > server listed on my screen. . . and then I chickened out.

Just go ahead and join up. I personally would appreciate another backmarker to keep me company at the superspeedways. :) > I'd like a place to race against people with the same attitudes found here; > good clean racing with sportsmanship prevailing (and the odd needle after > the race) but I don't want to cause any problems on the track. It must be a > generational thing (I'm older the most here) but I'd be more embarassed by > making a mistake that took someone else out then he (she) would be angry > for my doing so. We fully expect you to show up this weekend. If you don't, you're not playing fair because we generally try to ridicule everyone on Sunday as a result of the previous day's race results. -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

<snip everything> All this just for a painted number on the side of the cars! ;-) I've asked since N2 to have *letters* in the car's number, so somebody could have #33a or #104b. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

For me, that #128 is just a personal thing - it's been 'my' number since I was able to chose a number in online racing, and I've been using it for years. It's like a bit of a luck charm, and old habit, simply 'my' number. Yeah yeah I know, sentimental I am... <bg> Achim "JM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > > I seek realism in the driving and will give anyone the best and most > > realistic racing I'm capable of, and will permanently continue to > > improve this aspect, but I think we can be a little forgiving in terms > > of what everyone perceives as being a good looking car or what he > > thinks symbolizes his own approach to racing best in terms of how he > > paints his car. > > > > Achim > > I agree with what you say, Achim, just for the record, I did not mind one > bit "remaking" my skin (changed from 305 to 59) > 59 was the first year of production of the mini so I kept a number with > "meaning" for me. > Besides, the 3 digit number was just a pain to line up on the sides nicely > anyway. I *think* I followed the right "rules" for NASCAR stickering, and > used the packs of contingency stickers because they looked a lot better > than the ones I had anyway (had to find an image converter to get them out > of psp format but no biggy). > I like painting car skins (or more precisely, stickering up the excellent > 2003 pontiac template I downloaded) so I enjoyed the excercise. > Now I have done Badtz Maru, I have a compulsion to create the Hello Kitty > Winston Cup team :o) > > Anyone want a nice pink n white car painting up? > > (worth a shot!) > > cheers > John (JohnMid RASCAR #59)

Hi John, > It has EVERYTHING in the world to do > with how well the guy races. :) Well, if he uses that hyperspeed varnish they've been advertising recently, you know the one that's so sleek that your top speed increases by 50mph, that indeed is not good sportsmanship. OTOH, if he puts enough decals on, the additional weight will slow him down so much to equilibrate the effect of the hyperspeed varnish ;-) > And considering your're in a 3-digit numbered car > your racing is pretty decent Thank you Sir. > although I can tell that you're not yet quite accustomed to the > "let the #43 car pass you on every lap" rule I've given up on letting someone pass, since recently the pacecar crushed me to pieces when I tried to let it pass <g> > I don't care if they put logos/decals on their car or not. I would > simply like to see the numbers visible and in the right places. Nope, with the decals, that wasn't you. And your idea to put numbers on the car is actually sensationally good. I've immediately put numbers on my car after I understood the beauty of the concept. AAMOF, I was going to chose either 1, 2 or 8, but then I couldn't make up my mind as to which one to chose, and put them all on. Better one number too many than one too few, right? > Forgiving!? Never! Like "apologizing", it's a sign of weakness. :) <g> You know, I was on purpose avoiding the use of foreign words like 'tolerate' or similar effeminate stuff ;-) Achim

You're thinking too much. Just show up and race. :-) David G Fisher "elrikk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BZlA8.10560$[email hidden]... > Car #99 here. > > Feel free to do anything you like to my car. I just painted it as I didto

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> give an honest (and hopefully funny) indication of my soon to be obvious > "rookie" status here in RASCAR. > > My plan was to show up during practice sessions, drive a few laps and then > start at the back of the grid. Then I would see if I could even race with > any of the tailenders. If not. . . well nothing ventured . . . As long > as I stayed out of the way while being lapped by the leaders I would cause > no harm. Just hold my line, close my eyes and pray. :O) > > But then came race day last weekend and I got as far as finding the

epickett > server listed on my screen. . . and then I chickened out. > > I'd like a place to race against people with the same attitudes foundhere; > good clean racing with sportsmanship prevailing (and the odd needle after > the race) but I don't want to cause any problems on the track. It must bea > generational thing (I'm older the most here) but I'd be more embarassed by > making a mistake that took someone else out then he (she) would be angry > for my doing so. > > I'll keep practicing against the AI during the week on the tracks to beused > the following weekend and if I get a sudden burst of confidance I justmight

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> show up. Look for me in you mirror, but back . . . way back. > > elrikk (Mike Kay) > > > >

>C) The green #99 and primer #45 are still in their original >configurations, but I'll eventually get to them too (unless they come up 45 car here. I actually left it primered on purpose because it reminds me of my younger days at BIR when we had no sponsors and had to fix the cars most every week. :) I don't like the rolling billboards. Bamadano

I think it's time for some logical thinking here. IF (Achim is Nascar rookie) AND (Everybody else is Nascar rookie, too) THEN (Everybody is like Achim when it comes to Nascar racing). That means everybody is faster than John <bg,d&r> ;-) Achim "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... ... > Everyone's a rookie, especially that Joachim guy. :)...

"John Simmons" > A) I changed Ed's so I could see the number better - the car is darker > and the number is yellow with red trim. OI MATE!!! What the f..... ???!?!?! :-D :-D Those were my temp. "testing" colors John... I didnt want to make it too easy for you guys to spot all my secret areo-modifications :-) New car is just around the corner - and I'm sure you will like it :-) -- ed_

John Simmons <[email hidden]> writes: <snip comments about different RASCAR paintjobs> So my new 76 car checks out good enough then ? I would really like some feedback on it. -- Olav Malmin remove .spam when replying

Goy, if you want #11, no problem by me... been messing around w/PSP & created a #15 car (just used 11 'cause I was in a hurry & thought it was easiest to use). If John doesn't mind changing the roster, Phil doesn't mind updating the carset, & everyone else downloading another car... Brian ps: Now I understand what happened at 'Dega ;) "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > John Simmons wrote: > > > > If I'm gonna be following everyone around during cautions, Iat least > > want something pleasant and at least close to realistic tostare at. > > ROFL, now that's the JS we all know and love :-) > > Sorry to disappoint you John, but "my" number has been taken,both of > them, so my car will have a 3 digit number, 311 > > 3 for Dale and 11 for Larry Perkins, a Castrol Commodore.....ohwell, > almost, Castrol Chevy, *with* the black hood :-), thx to all whopointed > me in the right direction, found enough pics of Larry's earlycar to

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> have it done properly > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > http://www.theuspits.com > http://www.teammirage.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx-- >

Just a suggestion Olav, perhaps the door-numbers could be a bit smaller? -- ed_ "Olav Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > John Simmons <[email hidden]> writes: > > <snip comments about different RASCAR paintjobs> > > So my new 76 car checks out good enough then ? I would really like > some feedback on it. > > -- > Olav Malmin > remove .spam when replying

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> > Goy, if you want #11, no problem by me... been messing around > w/PSP & created a #15 car (just used 11 'cause I was in a hurry & > thought it was easiest to use). If John doesn't mind changing the > roster, Phil doesn't mind updating the carset, & everyone else > downloading another car... > > Brian > > ps: Now I understand what happened at 'Dega ;)

ROFL Naa, just ragging on old JS a bit :-), I won't be a regular anyways Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

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> I think it's time for some logical thinking here. > > IF (Achim is Nascar rookie) AND (Everybody else is Nascar rookie, too) > THEN (Everybody is like Achim when it comes to Nascar racing). > > That means everybody is faster than John <bg,d&r> ;-) > > Achim > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > ... > > Everyone's a rookie, especially that Joachim guy. :) > ...

Everyone but Eldred. :) -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

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> John Simmons <[email hidden]> writes: > > <snip comments about different RASCAR paintjobs> > > So my new 76 car checks out good enough then ? I would really like > some feedback on it. > >

Looks okay to me. :) -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

Just say the word, and you can consider the roster changed to reflect your new car number (15). If Goy wants to change, he'll have to let me know. In article <%UqA8.686$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> Goy, if you want #11, no problem by me... been messing around > w/PSP & created a #15 car (just used 11 'cause I was in a hurry & > thought it was easiest to use). If John doesn't mind changing the > roster, Phil doesn't mind updating the carset, & everyone else > downloading another car... > > Brian > > ps: Now I understand what happened at 'Dega ;) > > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > John Simmons wrote: > > > > > > If I'm gonna be following everyone around during cautions, I > at least > > > want something pleasant and at least close to realistic to > stare at. > > > > ROFL, now that's the JS we all know and love :-) > > > > Sorry to disappoint you John, but "my" number has been taken, > both of > > them, so my car will have a 3 digit number, 311 > > > > 3 for Dale and 11 for Larry Perkins, a Castrol Commodore.....oh > well, > > almost, Castrol Chevy, *with* the black hood :-), thx to all who > pointed > > me in the right direction, found enough pics of Larry's early > car to > > have it done properly > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > > > > http://www.theuspits.com > > http://www.teammirage.com > > > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > > --Groucho Marx-- > > > > >

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Olav Malmin <[email hidden]> wrote in > So my new 76 car checks out good enough then ? I would really like > some feedback on it. It looks fine to me- very "Orange Arrows". I don't see a problem with the door numbers either, but I'm no expert :^D cheers John

> > > BTW Tony, what is that green snake thing on the side of your car? > > The symbols of the Alfa Romeo badge are symbols of Milan - the snake is fromthe > > Visconti family crest... > > blah blah > Allllll-rightie then. :) You did ask. My cunning plan is to bore you into submission re the painting rules :-) > > So pure fantasy John - the concept of pretty but fragile Alfa Romeos inNascar > > seems rather far fetched - then again we have got used to Ferraris beingmore > > reliable than Mercedes in F1... > Pretty? :) Well I wouldn't expect a Redneck Techno-Biker to appreciate Italian car design. <G> Tony

"Joachim Trensz" wrote: > Are you using one of Giulio 'Automan' Lapedota's cars? Yes - quality templates I would recommend them - John will love seeing all those Audis, BMWs, Cadilacs, Maseratis, Vipers & Ferraris running around in a stock car race ;-) Tony

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>In article <aassmg$djqe0$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] >says... >> I think it's time for some logical thinking here. >> >> IF (Achim is Nascar rookie) AND (Everybody else is Nascar rookie, too) >> THEN (Everybody is like Achim when it comes to Nascar racing). >> >> That means everybody is faster than John <bg,d&r> ;-) >> >> Achim >> >> "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> ... >> > Everyone's a rookie, especially that Joachim guy. :) >> ... > >Everyone but Eldred. :)

!eject j. simmons...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett A friend of mine is involved in a fund-raiser walk-a-thon for research to cure breast cancer. If you can, please go to my homepage and see how to make a donation. Thank you. Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

OK, John, give me the #15 car & I'll upload it to the new thread that Phil has put up. (Anything to help get rid of those silly 3-digit #s) ;) Goy... you can have the #11... hehe Brian "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just say the word, and you can consider the roster changed toreflect > your new car number (15). If Goy wants to change, he'll have tolet me > know. > > > In article<%UqA8.686$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > Goy, if you want #11, no problem by me... been messing around > > w/PSP & created a #15 car (just used 11 'cause I was in ahurry & > > thought it was easiest to use). If John doesn't mind changingthe

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taken, > > both of > > > them, so my car will have a 3 digit number, 311 > > > > > > 3 for Dale and 11 for Larry Perkins, a CastrolCommodore.....oh > > well, > > > almost, Castrol Chevy, *with* the black hood :-), thx to allwho > > pointed > > > me in the right direction, found enough pics of Larry'searly

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> > car to > > > have it done properly > > > > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > > (uncle) Goy > > > > > > http://www.theuspits.com > > > http://www.teammirage.com > > > > > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > > > --Groucho Marx-- > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ========================================================= > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > RASCAR Roster > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > ========================================================= >

Yours is changed Brian. Goy, now's your chance to claim #11. All you have to do is give me the word. :) In article <FnDA8.4$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> OK, John, give me the #15 car & I'll upload it to the new thread > that Phil has put up. (Anything to help get rid of those silly > 3-digit #s) ;) > > Goy... you can have the #11... hehe > > Brian > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Just say the word, and you can consider the roster changed to > reflect > > your new car number (15). If Goy wants to change, he'll have to > let me > > know. > >

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John Simmons wrote: > > Yours is changed Brian. Goy, now's your chance to claim #11. All you > have to do is give me the word. :) WORD Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

B Farmer wrote: > > OK, John, give me the #15 car & I'll upload it to the new thread > that Phil has put up. (Anything to help get rid of those silly > 3-digit #s) ;) > > Goy... you can have the #11... hehe Knew you'd get the message....:-) That's great B, thx a bunch ! I'll always wonder what did it though, my nudge on the backstretch at Dega or John threats after I threatened to show up with a 3 digit car...:-), well, could be that you're just a great guy of course....naaa Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--