SIERRA wants to know what makes a good or bad game

Guys go to the Sierra forums and look at the top of the page.........Sierra wants to know what makes a good or bad game. now is a good time to let them know that we want GPL2 or a sports car sim.....anything but another Nascar sim! tell them to let Papy show their stuff! neil

hey, I want both Nascar and Open Wheel. They should be able to produce more than one game a year. Heck, EA puts out more than one, so should Sierra. I don't think that's too much to ask. They've only done 1 game a year for the last several years, surely they could do two for once! "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Guys > > go to the Sierra forums and look at the top of the page.........Sierra > wants to know what makes a good or bad game. > > now is a good time to let them know that we want GPL2 or a sports car > sim.....anything but another Nascar sim! > > tell them to let Papy show their stuff! > > neil > >

I do not want the Papy games to end up like the EA Racing games.. do you? "Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3cd3667a$[email hidden]... > hey, I want both Nascar and Open Wheel. They should be able to producemore > than one game a year. Heck, EA puts out more than one, so should Sierra. I > don't think that's too much to ask. They've only done 1 game a year forthe

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> last several years, surely they could do two for once! > > > "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Guys > > > > go to the Sierra forums and look at the top of the page.........Sierra > > wants to know what makes a good or bad game. > > > > now is a good time to let them know that we want GPL2 or a sports car > > sim.....anything but another Nascar sim! > > > > tell them to let Papy show their stuff! > > > > neil > > > > > >

Fuck you.......let Papy put games out like EA, if they don't match up them let us decide. If they can match the rate and keep up the quality, let them be. I'll still buy 1 EA game a year at least........how about you Papy, is Nascar 2003 due out next year?? Cheers Romas Barinov "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3cd377b2$[email hidden]...

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> I do not want the Papy games to end up like the EA Racing games.. do you? > > > "Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3cd3667a$[email hidden]... > > hey, I want both Nascar and Open Wheel. They should be able to produce > more > > than one game a year. Heck, EA puts out more than one, so should Sierra.

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> > don't think that's too much to ask. They've only done 1 game a year for > the > > last several years, surely they could do two for once! > > > > > > "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Guys > > > > > > go to the Sierra forums and look at the top of the

page.........Sierra

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> > > wants to know what makes a good or bad game. > > > > > > now is a good time to let them know that we want GPL2 or a sports car > > > sim.....anything but another Nascar sim! > > > > > > tell them to let Papy show their stuff! > > > > > > neil > > > > > > > > > > > >

"Barney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3cd3b41b$0$15144$[email hidden]... > Fuck you.......let Papy put games out like EA, if they don't match up them > let us decide. If they can match the rate and keep up the quality, letthem > be. I'll still buy 1 EA game a year at least........how about you Papy, is > Nascar 2003 due out next year?? > > Cheers > > Romas Barinov What a charming attitude. With posts like this you'll go a long way here on RAS. Welcome to my kill file. *PLONK* Phil -- Racesim Central Administrator http://www.racesimcentral.com

"Phil Lee" wrote: > > What a charming attitude. With posts like this you'll go a long way here on > RAS. Welcome to my kill file. Yeah Phil, I was going to respond but then what is the point...

>"Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote > hey, I want both Nascar and Open Wheel. They should be able to producemore > than one game a year. Not anymore with the layouts at Papyrus. I guess most secondary projects got canned for yet another Nascar title. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

WSC! The West's knew exactly what we wanted.. Maybe Sierra could do something similar. The ability to create our own cars and being certified by a legislative body (FILSCA, West's, Sierra, WSCEA, ect..) Basically everything the West's said. Of course even if they decide to make only NASCAR sims, having the ability to race more then what NASCAR allows ( Unlimited number of cars as opposed to NASCARS maximum of 43) would be best for me! ;-) -- DAMN IT! Someone set up a LAN event in or near the Fingerlakes region of NY "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Guys > > go to the Sierra forums and look at the top of the page.........Sierra > wants to know what makes a good or bad game. > > now is a good time to let them know that we want GPL2 or a sports car > sim.....anything but another Nascar sim! > > tell them to let Papy show their stuff! > > neil > >

Uh, Neil? They're asking what makes a good *video* (console) game. Do you really want Papyrus to do "Phreddy Phish Goes to Ascot"? --Steve "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Guys > > go to the Sierra forums and look at the top of the page.........Sierra > wants to know what makes a good or bad game. > > now is a good time to let them know that we want GPL2 or a sports car > sim.....anything but another Nascar sim! > > tell them to let Papy show their stuff! > > neil > >

I think he just means releasing more games, not necessarily quality-wise. -John "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3cd377b2$[email hidden]...

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> I do not want the Papy games to end up like the EA Racing games.. do you? > > > "Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3cd3667a$[email hidden]... > > hey, I want both Nascar and Open Wheel. They should be able to produce > more > > than one game a year. Heck, EA puts out more than one, so should Sierra.

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> > don't think that's too much to ask. They've only done 1 game a year for > the > > last several years, surely they could do two for once! > > > > > > "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Guys > > > > > > go to the Sierra forums and look at the top of the

page.........Sierra

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> > > wants to know what makes a good or bad game. > > > > > > now is a good time to let them know that we want GPL2 or a sports car > > > sim.....anything but another Nascar sim! > > > > > > tell them to let Papy show their stuff! > > > > > > neil > > > > > > > > > > > >

hey guess what.... FUCK YOU TOO! plonk -- M. Main [email hidden] www.LordsOfAcid.com / www.ChildrenOfAcid.com Maturation makes liars of us all. "Barney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3cd3b41b$0$15144$[email hidden]... > Fuck you.......let Papy put games out like EA, if they don't match up them > let us decide. If they can match the rate and keep up the quality, let them > be. I'll still buy 1 EA game a year at least........how about you Papy, is > Nascar 2003 due out next year?? > > Cheers > > Romas Barinov > > > "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3cd377b2$[email hidden]... > > I do not want the Papy games to end up like the EA Racing games.. do you? > > > > > > "Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3cd3667a$[email hidden]... > > > hey, I want both Nascar and Open Wheel. They should be able to produce > > more > > > than one game a year. Heck, EA puts out more than one, so should Sierra. > I > > > don't think that's too much to ask. They've only done 1 game a year for > > the > > > last several years, surely they could do two for once! > > > > > > > > > "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Guys > > > > > > > > go to the Sierra forums and look at the top of the > page.........Sierra > > > > wants to know what makes a good or bad game. > > > > > > > > now is a good time to let them know that we want GPL2 or a sports car > > > > sim.....anything but another Nascar sim! > > > > > > > > tell them to let Papy show their stuff! > > > > > > > > neil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

No, I just think that a huge company like Sierra could release more than one racing game a year, that's all. They cut folks from the wrong studio I guess, but who the heck knows, there's never anything official. BTW, all racing games from EA are not crap, just 90% of them. I like F12001 a lot. Here's an idea that I am sure has surfaced before: Papy could do an open source F1 project with the sim community and have a fanatstic sim in less than a year's time. If they are so covered up on the NASCAR thing every year, they would just have to worry about the physics tweaking and general gameplay (what triggers a caution,etc). They already have most of the technology there. The community could do the tracks, AI, vehicles, paint jobs. Just think of what could be done by the GPLEA, Noonen, etc. if they had the tools and the complete data model on paper, rather than having to hack to get the stuff to work, on a trial and error basis. Just think of the talent of the NASCAR community and the paint jobs they crank out. I just think they could produce more than one game a year, that's all. Regards, Phillip "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3cd377b2$[email hidden]...

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> I do not want the Papy games to end up like the EA Racing games.. do you? > > > "Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3cd3667a$[email hidden]... > > hey, I want both Nascar and Open Wheel. They should be able to produce > more > > than one game a year. Heck, EA puts out more than one, so should Sierra.

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> > don't think that's too much to ask. They've only done 1 game a year for > the > > last several years, surely they could do two for once! > > > > > > "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Guys > > > > > > go to the Sierra forums and look at the top of the

page.........Sierra

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> > > wants to know what makes a good or bad game. > > > > > > now is a good time to let them know that we want GPL2 or a sports car > > > sim.....anything but another Nascar sim! > > > > > > tell them to let Papy show their stuff! > > > > > > neil > > > > > > > > > > > >

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>"Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote > Here's an idea that I am sure has surfaced before: Papy could do an open > source F1 project with the sim community and have a fanatstic sim in less > than a year's time. If they are so covered up on the NASCAR thing every > year, they would just have to worry about the physics tweaking and general > gameplay (what triggers a caution,etc). They already have most of the > technology there. The community could do the tracks, AI, vehicles, paint > jobs. Just think of what could be done by the GPLEA, Noonen, etc. if they > had the tools and the complete data model on paper, rather than having to > hack to get the stuff to work, on a trial and error basis. Just think of

the > talent of the NASCAR community and the paint jobs they crank out. That sound all great but, where's the money in all that? They have to buy milk and bread like each of us, remember :) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

UH Steve.....dont tell me i read that wrong.......video game...crap! i want an open wheel sim.......i like nascar,but not every stinking year! Maybe you could write a guide for indy car 3 to give them a clue<G> neil "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0wQA8.17938$[email hidden]... > Uh, Neil? > > They're asking what makes a good *video* (console) game. Do you reallywant

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> Papyrus to do "Phreddy Phish Goes to Ascot"? > > --Steve > > "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Guys > > > > go to the Sierra forums and look at the top of the page.........Sierra > > wants to know what makes a good or bad game. > > > > now is a good time to let them know that we want GPL2 or a sports car > > sim.....anything but another Nascar sim! > > > > tell them to let Papy show their stuff! > > > > neil > > > > > >

they make the money off of the NASCAR title and the F1 title to non-developers. They can still sell the F1 title to everyone else, just give out the source to people that sign non-disclosure agreements, just like with the beta testing folks. If the testers put that out on the net, they dont make money on the Nascar game either, right? Phillip "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:eHTA8.164392$[email hidden]... > >"Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote > > Here's an idea that I am sure has surfaced before: Papy could do an open > > source F1 project with the sim community and have a fanatstic sim inless > > than a year's time. If they are so covered up on the NASCAR thing every > > year, they would just have to worry about the physics tweaking andgeneral > > gameplay (what triggers a caution,etc). They already have most of the > > technology there. The community could do the tracks, AI, vehicles, paint > > jobs. Just think of what could be done by the GPLEA, Noonen, etc. ifthey > > had the tools and the complete data model on paper, rather than havingto

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> > hack to get the stuff to work, on a trial and error basis. Just think of > the > > talent of the NASCAR community and the paint jobs they crank out. > > > That sound all great but, where's the money in all that? They have to buy > milk and bread like each of us, remember :) > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >

M. Main wrote: > hey guess what.... FUCK YOU TOO! <snip> > Maturation makes liars of us all. Uh-huh. :-) -- Fester Hey nobody's perfect, not even myself 8) -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> 4/15/02

Phillip Malphrus, Jr. ([email hidden]) wrote on 04 May 2002: > they make the money off of the NASCAR title and the F1 title to > non-developers. They can still sell the F1 title to everyone else, > just give out the source to people that sign non-disclosure > agreements, just like with the beta testing folks. If the testers > put that out on the net, they dont make money on the Nascar game > either, right? Doesn't sound like open source to me... -- "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. The GPL Scrapyard: Back again! http://www.btinternet.com/~gplscrapyard

well, it is to whoever signs the agreement. That's not the point of this anyway. The point is that the sim could be done without breaking them, with all of the talent that is out there. "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Phillip Malphrus, Jr. ([email hidden]) wrote on 04 May > 2002: > > > they make the money off of the NASCAR title and the F1 title to > > non-developers. They can still sell the F1 title to everyone else, > > just give out the source to people that sign non-disclosure > > agreements, just like with the beta testing folks. If the testers > > put that out on the net, they dont make money on the Nascar game > > either, right? > > Doesn't sound like open source to me... > > -- > "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, > really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. > > The GPL Scrapyard: Back again! http://www.btinternet.com/~gplscrapyard

:) -- M. Main [email hidden] www.LordsOfAcid.com / www.ChildrenOfAcid.com Maturation makes liars of us all.

:) -- M. Main www.LordsOfAcid.com / www.ChildrenOfAcid.com Maturation makes liars of us all.