Thanks for 2 fun races guys. Richmond had some good racing in amongst the
yellows. I think the number of cautions were par for the course on a short
track. Atlanta was a lot of fun too. My PC locked at the end of warmup so I
had to start 2 laps down. I managed to get them both back thanks to a couple
of yellows and some help from the leaders. The last 12 laps had some
fantastic racing. Definitely a success.
Here are links to the race exports:
http://www.racesimcentral.com/results/RASCAR/RASCAR_Richmond_5May02.html
http://www.racesimcentral.com/results/RASCAR/RASCAR_Atlanta_5May02.html
Cheers
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RASCAR races at Richmond and Atlanta draw 25 drivers
Phil Lee reported two enjoyable RASCAR races at Richmond and Atlanta with about 25 drivers. Discussion focused on caution-lap discipline, such as keeping a steady gap in the pace line to avoid accordion effects. Several drivers reported scoring and spotter bugs that wrongly showed them a lap down or produced black flags.
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"Phil Lee"
. The last 12 laps had some
> fantastic racing. Definitely a success.
>
> Here are links to the race exports: Wow 25 racers with more wanting to join...sounds like RASCAR may be a
sucess.
glad I thought of it.....hahahahhahahaha
dave henrie
In article <ab1tnu$ee48m$[email hidden]>, philip.lee6
@ntlworld.com says...
I think there is still a lot of work to be done on learning how to drive
during the cautions. It seems the further back in line that you are,
the more likely it is that the speeds during the cauion will
continuously vary by as much as 30 mph.
A) When you catch up to the end of the pace line, pick a distance you
are comfortable follwing at, and slow/speed up to the pace speed. At
that point, do not deviate from that speed until the green drops.
B) Do not follopw directly behind the guy in front of you. If he does
something stupid, you won't have to move nearly so far to avoid hitting
him.
C) DO NOT CHAT - AT ALL.
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> Thanks for 2 fun races guys. Richmond had some good racing in amongst the > yellows. I think the number of cautions were par for the course on a short > track. Atlanta was a lot of fun too. My PC locked at the end of warmup so I > had to start 2 laps down. I managed to get them both back thanks to a couple > of yellows and some help from the leaders. The last 12 laps had some > fantastic racing. Definitely a success. >AAMOF, it was ymenard who first had the idea, but he didn't tell us to give
us time to develop it on our own. But I expect him to take over
administration any day now soon, and we can trust as he'll be doing a good
job - or so he'll say (something to that effect) ... <bg> ;-)
( Apologies to ymenard, I just couldn't refrain from making the comment ;-)
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> > "Phil Lee" > > . The last 12 laps had some > > fantastic racing. Definitely a success. > > > > Here are links to the race exports: > Wow 25 racers with more wanting to join...sounds like RASCAR may be a > sucess. > glad I thought of it.....hahahahhahahaha > dave henrie > >In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons
<[email hidden]> writes:
>I think there is still a lot of work to be done on learning how to drive
>during the cautions. It seems the further back in line that you are,
>the more likely it is that the speeds during the cauion will
>continuously vary by as much as 30 mph.
>
When were YOU bear the back of the line? I figured you were too fast to
experience the joy of that...<g>
>B) Do not follopw directly behind the guy in front of you. If he does
>something stupid, you won't have to move nearly so far to avoid hitting
>him.
I always stagger my car in the pace line. I drive on the other side of the
track than the car ahead of me.
Eldred
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I was right behind you on the next to last restart (and I don't know
what you were doing, but you almost came to a complete stop a couple of
times). You were behind ZZ Busch, and he was half a backstraight behind
the next car in front of him.
This is the kind of stuff that frustrates people in onlines races.
Keeping a reasonable distance is fine, but when you're THAT far behind
the end of the pace line, you're going to frustrate the hell out of
drivers who are quicker because not only do they have to go around you,
they have to make up way more distance than is reasonable.
Too many other people don't. When you get that yo-yo speed thing going,
someone's bound to get tagged on a pace lap. It's best to run staggered
until the one lap til green signal is given.
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> In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >I think there is still a lot of work to be done on learning how to drive > >during the cautions. It seems the further back in line that you are, > >the more likely it is that the speeds during the cauion will > >continuously vary by as much as 30 mph. > > > > When were YOU bear the back of the line? I figured you were too fast to > experience the joy of that...<g>Quoted text (7 lines)
> >B) Do not follopw directly behind the guy in front of you. If he does > >something stupid, you won't have to move nearly so far to avoid hitting > >him. > > I always stagger my car in the pace line. I drive on the other side of the > track than the car ahead of me. > Another easy, works well rule-of-thumb fwiw, is to always have a sliver of
pavement showing between you and the car ahead.
That way, everyone can stay in one line, and it pretty much eliminates any
accordian affect.
-John
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> In article <[email hidden]>,
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> > In article <[email hidden]>, JohnSimmons
> > <[email hidden]> writes:
> >
> > >I think there is still a lot of work to be done on learning how todrive
the
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> > >during the cautions. It seems the further back in line that you are, > > >the more likely it is that the speeds during the cauion will > > >continuously vary by as much as 30 mph. > > > > > > > When were YOU bear the back of the line? I figured you were too fast to > > experience the joy of that...<g> > > I was right behind you on the next to last restart (and I don't know > what you were doing, but you almost came to a complete stop a couple of > times). You were behind ZZ Busch, and he was half a backstraight behind > the next car in front of him. > > This is the kind of stuff that frustrates people in onlines races. > > Keeping a reasonable distance is fine, but when you're THAT far behind > the end of the pace line, you're going to frustrate the hell out of > drivers who are quicker because not only do they have to go around you, > they have to make up way more distance than is reasonable. > > > > >B) Do not follopw directly behind the guy in front of you. If he does > > >something stupid, you won't have to move nearly so far to avoid hitting > > >him. > > > > I always stagger my car in the pace line. I drive on the other side ofQuoted text (25 lines)
> > track than the car ahead of me. > > > > > Too many other people don't. When you get that yo-yo speed thing going, > someone's bound to get tagged on a pace lap. It's best to run staggered > until the one lap til green signal is given. > > > -- > ========================================================= > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > RASCAR Roster > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > =========================================================With all the practice, we'll get there ;-)
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> ...there is still a lot of work to be done on
> learning how to drive during the cautions
It's no big deal at all since RASCAR isn't a league, but for some reason the
race results incorrectly show me a lap down at Richmond.
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> Thanks for 2 fun races guys. Richmond had some good racing in amongst the
> yellows. I think the number of cautions were par for the course on a short
> track. Atlanta was a lot of fun too. My PC locked at the end of warmup so
I
> had to start 2 laps down. I managed to get them both back thanks to a
couple
> of yellows and some help from the leaders. The last 12 laps had some
> fantastic racing. Definitely a success.
>
> Here are links to the race exports:
>
> http://www.racesimcentral.com/results/RASCAR/RASCAR_Richmond_5May02.html
>
> http://www.racesimcentral.com/results/RASCAR/RASCAR_Atlanta_5May02.html
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil
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In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons
<[email hidden]> writes:
>I was right behind you on the next to last restart (and I don't know
>what you were doing, but you almost came to a complete stop a couple of
>times). You were behind ZZ Busch, and he was half a backstraight behind
>the next car in front of him.
>
Oh yeah, I remember you saying "get moving!", or something. ZZ slowed WAY down
- not sure why. I had to slow to keep from passing him... :(
ZZ, what was up with that? I didn't *see* anything that would have caused you
to stop...
>This is the kind of stuff that frustrates people in onlines races.
I believe it.
>Keeping a reasonable distance is fine, but when you're THAT far behind
>the end of the pace line, you're going to frustrate the hell out of
>drivers who are quicker because not only do they have to go around you,
>they have to make up way more distance than is reasonable.
Not like I had the speed to get AROUND him, but I didn't want to be that much
closer to being lapped
I'll even stay staggered as long as there arent any lapped cars yet. If there
are, I'll move to the high side to let them get into position.
Eldred
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>> >B) Do not follopw directly behind the guy in front of you. If he does >> >something stupid, you won't have to move nearly so far to avoid hitting >> >him. >> >> I always stagger my car in the pace line. I drive on the other side of the >> track than the car ahead of me. >> > > >Too many other people don't. When you get that yo-yo speed thing going, >someone's bound to get tagged on a pace lap. It's best to run staggered >until the one lap til green signal is given.In article <EMeB8.77522$[email hidden]>, "David G
Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes:
>It's no big deal at all since RASCAR isn't a league, but for some reason the
>race results incorrectly show me a lap down at Richmond.
Something's weird with the race standings sometime. During one of the cautions
at Richmond, I was about to make a pitstop. My spotter says "We're not on the
lead lap - we can't pit this time by". I may have been the LAST car on the
lead lap, but I *was* on the lead lap. I didn't want to chance a penalty, so I
waited until next time by to pit. Anybody else have something like that
happen?
Eldred
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> In article <EMeB8.77522$[email hidden]>, "David G
> Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes:
>
> >It's no big deal at all since RASCAR isn't a league, but for some reasonthe
> >race results incorrectly show me a lap down at Richmond.
>
> Something's weird with the race standings sometime. During one of thecautions
> at Richmond, I was about to make a pitstop. My spotter says "We're not onthe
> lead lap - we can't pit this time by". I may have been the LAST car onthe
> lead lap, but I *was* on the lead lap. I didn't want to chance a penalty,so I
> waited until next time by to pit. Anybody else have something like that
> happen?
>
> Eldred Well this is different, but still a bug. I ran another offline race at
Bristol, it ended under caution. The moment the leader crossed the finish
line, everyone stopped. did the Papy shuffle and dissapeared. I continued
on across the s/f line. Final results showed everyone in their proper place
but we all finished a lap down from the leader(at least those still on the
lead lap.)
a boo boo in the code methnks.
dave henrie
Thats what a warp will do, not so much the code in the game. Sounds like the
server experienced a loss of connection momentarliy.
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>
> "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > In article <EMeB8.77522$[email hidden]>, "David
G
> > Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes:
> >
> > >It's no big deal at all since RASCAR isn't a league, but for some
reason
> the
> > >race results incorrectly show me a lap down at Richmond.
> >
> > Something's weird with the race standings sometime. During one of the
> cautions
> > at Richmond, I was about to make a pitstop. My spotter says "We're not
on
> the
> > lead lap - we can't pit this time by". I may have been the LAST car on
> the
> > lead lap, but I *was* on the lead lap. I didn't want to chance a
penalty,
> so I
> > waited until next time by to pit. Anybody else have something like that
> > happen?
> >
> > Eldred
> Well this is different, but still a bug. I ran another offline race
at
> Bristol, it ended under caution. The moment the leader crossed the finish
> line, everyone stopped. did the Papy shuffle and dissapeared. I
continued
> on across the s/f line. Final results showed everyone in their proper
place
> but we all finished a lap down from the leader(at least those still on the
> lead lap.)
> a boo boo in the code methnks.
> dave henrie
>
>
>
Yep, that's usually the reason in these cases.
-John
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> Thats what a warp will do, not so much the code in the game. Sounds likethe
"David
not
> on
> > the
> > > lead lap - we can't pit this time by". I may have been the LAST caron
> > the
> > > lead lap, but I *was* on the lead lap. I didn't want to chance a
> penalty,
> > so I
> > > waited until next time by to pit. Anybody else have something likethat
> > > happen?
> > >
> > > Eldred
> > Well this is different, but still a bug. I ran another offline race
> at
> > Bristol, it ended under caution. The moment the leader crossed thefinish
> > line, everyone stopped. did the Papy shuffle and dissapeared. I
> continued
> > on across the s/f line. Final results showed everyone in their proper
> place
> > but we all finished a lap down from the leader(at least those still onthe
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> server experienced a loss of connection momentarliy. > > > -- > Mike Grandy > www.precision-racing.com > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:MRvB8.40315$[email hidden]... > > > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > In article <EMeB8.77522$[email hidden]>,Quoted text (11 lines)
> G > > > Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > > >It's no big deal at all since RASCAR isn't a league, but for some > reason > > the > > > >race results incorrectly show me a lap down at Richmond. > > > > > > Something's weird with the race standings sometime. During one of the > > cautions > > > at Richmond, I was about to make a pitstop. My spotter says "We'reQuoted text (8 lines)
> > lead lap.) > > a boo boo in the code methnks. > > dave henrie > > > > > > > >
"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In article <EMeB8.77522$[email hidden]>, "David G
> Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes:
>
> >It's no big deal at all since RASCAR isn't a league, but for some reasonthe
> >race results incorrectly show me a lap down at Richmond.
>
> Something's weird with the race standings sometime. During one of thecautions
> at Richmond, I was about to make a pitstop. My spotter says "We're not onthe
> lead lap - we can't pit this time by". I may have been the LAST car onthe
> lead lap, but I *was* on the lead lap. I didn't want to chance a penalty,so I
> waited until next time by to pit. Anybody else have something like that
> happen?
>
> Eldred Well this is different, but still a bug. I ran another offline race at
Bristol, it ended under caution. The moment the leader crossed the finish
line, everyone stopped. did the Papy shuffle and dissapeared. I continued
on across the s/f line. Final results showed everyone in their proper place
but we all finished a lap down from the leader(at least those still on the
lead lap.)
a boo boo in the code methnks.
dave henrie
"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> In article <EMeB8.77522$[email hidden]>, "David G
> Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes:
>
> >It's no big deal at all since RASCAR isn't a league, but for some reasonthe
> >race results incorrectly show me a lap down at Richmond.
>
> Something's weird with the race standings sometime. During one of thecautions
> at Richmond, I was about to make a pitstop. My spotter says "We're not onthe
> lead lap - we can't pit this time by". I may have been the LAST car onthe
> lead lap, but I *was* on the lead lap. I didn't want to chance a penalty,so I
> waited until next time by to pit. Anybody else have something like that
> happen?
>
> Eldred Well this is different, but still a bug. I ran another offline race at
Bristol, it ended under caution. The moment the leader crossed the finish
line, everyone stopped. did the Papy shuffle and dissapeared. I continued
on across the s/f line. Final results showed everyone in their proper place
but we all finished a lap down from the leader(at least those still on the
lead lap.)
a boo boo in the code methnks.
dave henrie
Eldred, the same thing has happened to me at a couple of the
tracks... don't remember which, except Richmond was one. I think
I was last on lead lap also both times... not sure tho. Once, I
pitted anyway & had to "Go to the end of the longest line", still
on the lead lap.
Brian
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>
> Something's weird with the race standings sometime. During oneof the cautions
> at Richmond, I was about to make a pitstop. My spotter says"We're not on the
> lead lap - we can't pit this time by". I may have been the LASTcar on the
> lead lap, but I *was* on the lead lap. I didn't want to chancea penalty, so I
> waited until next time by to pit. Anybody else have somethinglike that
> happen?
>
> Eldred
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You'd think all this stuff would have been sorted out with
N4...............stinks imo.
-John
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> > In article <EMeB8.77522$[email hidden]>, "DavidG
> > Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes:
> >
> > >It's no big deal at all since RASCAR isn't a league, but for somereason
> the
> > >race results incorrectly show me a lap down at Richmond.
> >
> > Something's weird with the race standings sometime. During one of the
> cautions
> > at Richmond, I was about to make a pitstop. My spotter says "We're noton
> the
> > lead lap - we can't pit this time by". I may have been the LAST car on
> the
> > lead lap, but I *was* on the lead lap. I didn't want to chance apenalty,
> so I
> > waited until next time by to pit. Anybody else have something like that
> > happen?
> >
> > Eldred
> Well this is different, but still a bug. I ran another offline raceat
> Bristol, it ended under caution. The moment the leader crossed the finish
> line, everyone stopped. did the Papy shuffle and dissapeared. Icontinued
> on across the s/f line. Final results showed everyone in their properplace
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> but we all finished a lap down from the leader(at least those still on the > lead lap.) > a boo boo in the code methnks. > dave henrie > > >In article <[email hidden]>, "John Pancoast"
<[email hidden]> writes:
> You'd think all this stuff would have been sorted out with
>N4...............stinks imo.
>
I've had things like that happen a COUPLE of times. At the Talladega race last
week, my spotter alternated between 2 messages. "Pass the xx car"(3 cars
ahead), and "Stay behind the XX car"(several cars behind). In the end, I got a
black flag for passing under yellow. Grrrr...
If I had slowed down, I wonder if everyone who I let by would have gotten a
black flag...?
Eldred
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Said it before, say it again; Papy needs some serious competition.
-John
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> week, my spotter alternated between 2 messages. "Pass the xx car"(3 cars
> ahead), and "Stay behind the XX car"(several cars behind). In the end, Igot a
> black flag for passing under yellow. Grrrr...
> If I had slowed down, I wonder if everyone who I let by would have gottena
> black flag...?
>
> Eldred
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