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No Joy In GPL

9 posts by 8 people · 08 May 2002 22:21 UTC - 10 May 2002 16:19 UTC

L.A. Ming 08 May 2002 22:21 UTC#121357
Fella's: I've recently purchased a new computer with: Windows XP Home Edtion Intel 1.3 Ghz Celeron Intel Direct MAX AGP 3D 128 Meg SDram etc Into this I finally got to install the GPL sim that's been sitting on the shelf waiting for this day. My steering wheel is a Thrustmaster Nascar Pro that I've calibrated via XP, and XP says is A-OK. At first, I couldn't even launch the game. The intro screen would appear, and then I would dump back to the desktop. As per advice, I downloaded/added the 1.02 patch, and the D3D patch. This seemed to do the trick as last night I was able to drive the sim for about 30 minutes before it crashed to the desktop. It did this 2-3 times, each session lasting about 30 minutes. Well, this afternoon, I launched it to take a quick spin, and it dumped me straight to the "Player" page. After typing my name in (again), I clicked to move on. It told me it "could not save the player info". That was that. I couldn't delete, I couldn't save. I couldn't go forward, I couldn't go backward. I was stuck. I managed to get Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up the task window and end the GPL session. This happened a couple times before I finally gave up and uninstalled the "Typical" installation via XP. I then went in and hand deleted all remaining files in the GPL folder. Next I did a full install, and patched with the 1.02 US patch, as well as the D3D patch. After the full install w/patches, upon launching GPL, it walked me through the opening sequences (Player Info, settings, etc) and allowed me to save my info. I selected the BRM, and headed for a quick training session. Once in the car, I could shift and turn, but not accelerate. Back to the "Control Settings" page to tell it again what my control selections were. Once at the Control selections page, the game locked on the first item (as I was attempting to select my steering input). The game froze on the Select Controls screen, and the computer was locked up so tight I had to kill it with the power button. As a desparate measure, I even downloaded/installed the CPU fix, even though is supposed to be for CPU's above 1.7 Ghz. I tried it again, and was able to leave the pits before crashing back to the desktop. Trying to relaunch from XP caused it to lock at the Players Info page again. I'm absolutely baffled. Does the GPL come with its own "Uninstall" program that I need to run to eradicate all traces of the sim off my HD (prior to attempting one more install). I cannot find one on the CD, or at least one that is named so I can find it. BTW, when locked, the "End Task" window was flickering... and I noted my CPU useage was at 100%. Weird stuff here, guys. Anyway, right now I'm pretty much discouraged. At this point, I'm wondering if I ought to uninstall it again, and forget it. It appears to be a great sim, if I could just get it to run on my (cheap-o) system. Andre Ming
Scout around to the manufacturers' site for upgrades to your sound and video drivers. GPL works just fine here on Windows XP Pro. Unless the OEM has updated them recently, XP will only be including drivers for those devices which were furnished by the hardware suppliers prior to about last September. -- Chris H. "L.A. Ming" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Fella's: > > I've recently purchased a new computer with: > > Windows XP Home Edtion > Intel 1.3 Ghz Celeron > Intel Direct MAX AGP 3D > 128 Meg SDram > etc > > Into this I finally got to install the GPL sim that's been sitting on > the shelf waiting for this day. > > My steering wheel is a Thrustmaster Nascar Pro that I've calibrated > via XP, and XP says is A-OK. > > At first, I couldn't even launch the game. The intro screen would > appear, and then I would dump back to the desktop. > > As per advice, I downloaded/added the 1.02 patch, and the D3D patch. > This seemed to do the trick as last night I was able to drive the sim > for about 30 minutes before it crashed to the desktop. It did this 2-3 > times, each session lasting about 30 minutes. > > Well, this afternoon, I launched it to take a quick spin, and it > dumped me straight to the "Player" page. After typing my name in > (again), I clicked to move on. It told me it "could not save the > player info". > > That was that. I couldn't delete, I couldn't save. I couldn't go > forward, I couldn't go backward. I was stuck. I managed to get > Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up the task window and end the GPL session. This > happened a couple times before I finally gave up and uninstalled the > "Typical" installation via XP. I then went in and hand deleted all > remaining files in the GPL folder. > > Next I did a full install, and patched with the 1.02 US patch, as well > as > the D3D patch. > > After the full install w/patches, upon launching GPL, it walked me > through > the opening sequences (Player Info, settings, etc) and allowed me to > save my info. I selected the BRM, and headed for a quick training > session. Once in the car, I could shift and turn, but not accelerate. > Back to the "Control Settings" page to tell it again what my control > selections were. Once at the Control selections page, the game locked > on the first item (as I was attempting to select my steering input). > The game froze on the Select Controls screen, and the computer was > locked up so tight I had to kill it with the power button. > > As a desparate measure, I even downloaded/installed the CPU fix, even > though is supposed to be for CPU's above 1.7 Ghz. I tried it again, > and was able to leave the pits before crashing back to the desktop. > Trying to relaunch from XP caused it to lock at the Players Info page > again. > > I'm absolutely baffled. > > Does the GPL come with its own "Uninstall" program that I need to run > to > eradicate all traces of the sim off my HD (prior to attempting one > more > install). I cannot find one on the CD, or at least one that is named > so I > can find it. > > BTW, when locked, the "End Task" window was flickering... and I noted > my CPU > useage was at 100%. Weird stuff here, guys. > > Anyway, right now I'm pretty much discouraged. At this point, I'm > wondering > if I ought to uninstall it again, and forget it. It appears to be a > great > sim, if I could just get it to run on my (cheap-o) system. > > Andre Ming >
SS 09 May 2002 00:18 UTC↳ reply to L.A. Ming#121307
Sort of a shot in the dark here, but I had similar trouble when, after a system backup and hard drive reformat, I reloaded all of my GPL files from a backup CD. Didn't take me too long to realize my mistake. When backing up my system to CD's, I hadn't payed any attention to how the burner software would treat file attribute settings. As a result, all of the files I backed up to CD then reloaded onto my reformated hard-drive were tagged 'Read-Only'. I had to manually change them all back before .ini files, documents, etc. could be edited or written to. It was a real pain, as it affected everything I had backed up...but it's a mistake I won't make again! I don't run XP, but is there any way you might have ended up with very restrictive file access settings where everything is tagged Read Only? "L.A. Ming" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (78 lines)> Fella's: > > I've recently purchased a new computer with: > > Windows XP Home Edtion > Intel 1.3 Ghz Celeron > Intel Direct MAX AGP 3D > 128 Meg SDram > etc > > Into this I finally got to install the GPL sim that's been sitting on > the shelf waiting for this day. > > My steering wheel is a Thrustmaster Nascar Pro that I've calibrated > via XP, and XP says is A-OK. > > At first, I couldn't even launch the game. The intro screen would > appear, and then I would dump back to the desktop. > > As per advice, I downloaded/added the 1.02 patch, and the D3D patch. > This seemed to do the trick as last night I was able to drive the sim > for about 30 minutes before it crashed to the desktop. It did this 2-3 > times, each session lasting about 30 minutes. > > Well, this afternoon, I launched it to take a quick spin, and it > dumped me straight to the "Player" page. After typing my name in > (again), I clicked to move on. It told me it "could not save the > player info". > > That was that. I couldn't delete, I couldn't save. I couldn't go > forward, I couldn't go backward. I was stuck. I managed to get > Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up the task window and end the GPL session. This > happened a couple times before I finally gave up and uninstalled the > "Typical" installation via XP. I then went in and hand deleted all > remaining files in the GPL folder. > > Next I did a full install, and patched with the 1.02 US patch, as well > as > the D3D patch. > > After the full install w/patches, upon launching GPL, it walked me > through > the opening sequences (Player Info, settings, etc) and allowed me to > save my info. I selected the BRM, and headed for a quick training > session. Once in the car, I could shift and turn, but not accelerate. > Back to the "Control Settings" page to tell it again what my control > selections were. Once at the Control selections page, the game locked > on the first item (as I was attempting to select my steering input). > The game froze on the Select Controls screen, and the computer was > locked up so tight I had to kill it with the power button. > > As a desparate measure, I even downloaded/installed the CPU fix, even > though is supposed to be for CPU's above 1.7 Ghz. I tried it again, > and was able to leave the pits before crashing back to the desktop. > Trying to relaunch from XP caused it to lock at the Players Info page > again. > > I'm absolutely baffled. > > Does the GPL come with its own "Uninstall" program that I need to run > to > eradicate all traces of the sim off my HD (prior to attempting one > more > install). I cannot find one on the CD, or at least one that is named > so I > can find it. > > BTW, when locked, the "End Task" window was flickering... and I noted > my CPU > useage was at 100%. Weird stuff here, guys. > > Anyway, right now I'm pretty much discouraged. At this point, I'm > wondering > if I ought to uninstall it again, and forget it. It appears to be a > great > sim, if I could just get it to run on my (cheap-o) system. > > Andre Ming
On Thu, 9 May 2002 09:18:45 +0900, "ss" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)>Sort of a shot in the dark here, but I had similar trouble when, after a >system backup and hard drive reformat, I reloaded all of my GPL files from a >backup CD. Didn't take me too long to realize my mistake. When backing up >my system to CD's, I hadn't payed any attention to how the burner software >would treat file attribute settings. As a result, all of the files I backed >up to CD then reloaded onto my reformated hard-drive were tagged >'Read-Only'. I had to manually change them all back before .ini files, >documents, etc. could be edited or written to. It was a real pain, as it >affected everything I had backed up...but it's a mistake I won't make again! > >I don't run XP, but is there any way you might have ended up with very >restrictive file access settings where everything is tagged Read Only? >
I doubt that the settings would be altered to read only if it was freshly installed. The reason it happened in you case was because ALL cds will do that, because they can only ever be read only. So when you copy anything from a cd, it will set the files as read only. An absolute pain when you use a cd to back up, but I haven't heard of a way around it. As for the original question, definitely get newer drivers for your video card and also sound card. That's an oddball graphics card and sounds that it is almost certainly the cause of your troubles. Also, try GPL without the patch, see what happens. And do you have any problems in other 3d games? Rafe Mc
markp 09 May 2002 12:30 UTC↳ reply to SS#121266
HI, Couple of utilities you might take time to get, if you haven't already got them, from http://www.gplpp.com/, CROA which removes any read only settings on files and End it all which will allow you to shutdown all processes not required when running GPL, this might help with the CPU being at 100%. markp..............
It's easy to work around the read only files. Don't back GPL to a CD. First add the GPL folder to a zip file, then add the zip file to the CD. When you unzip the contents they will have the original attributes set. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> "Rafe McAuliffe" wrote > I doubt that the settings would be altered to read only if it was > freshly installed. The reason it happened in you case was because ALL > cds will do that, because they can only ever be read only. So when you > copy anything from a cd, it will set the files as read only. An > absolute pain when you use a cd to back up, but I haven't heard of a > way around it. > > Rafe Mc >
> It's easy to work around the read only files. > Don't back GPL to a CD. > > First add the GPL folder to a zip file, then add the zip file to the CD. > When you unzip the contents they will have the original attributes set. Exactly. I do this every few weeks with GPL. It's also the only way to get my GPL folder *onto* a CD now, as it's getting kinda big...
Or, if you're running partitions and/or two hard drives, save the entire directory structure for GPL. I do that on my "storage" partition on the second hard drive, then when I reformat one of the partitions on the first drive I just do a basic install of GPL and copy the entire set-up and file structure in place of the minimal install. -- Chris H. "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:o8yC8.4499$[email hidden]... > > It's easy to work around the read only files. > > Don't back GPL to a CD. > > > > First add the GPL folder to a zip file, then add the zip file to the CD. > > When you unzip the contents they will have the original attributes set. > > Exactly. I do this every few weeks with GPL. It's also the only way to get > my GPL folder *onto* a CD now, as it's getting kinda big... > > >
In article <njzC8.72367$[email hidden]>, Chris H. <[email hidden]> writes >Or, if you're running partitions and/or two hard drives, save the entire >directory structure for GPL. I do that on my "storage" partition on the >second hard drive, then when I reformat one of the partitions on the first >drive I just do a basic install of GPL and copy the entire set-up and file >structure in place of the minimal install. Or... if you have a second hard disk that you don't want in your computer or a third HD, get an external usb housing for it and plug it into your usb port. Can be used to back up - and not just from your computer - data and proggies very easily. And with USB 2.0 just becoming more prevalent transfer speeds could soon become pretty good. I have a 30Gb HD that I use in this way. It only uses USB 1.1, but can back up a Gig in about 10 - 12 minutes. I can then transfer files to others just by plugging it into their usb ports. Obviously they need the software install in order to get access first. :)
Quoted text (16 lines)> >"Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:o8yC8.4499$[email hidden]... >> > It's easy to work around the read only files. >> > Don't back GPL to a CD. >> > >> > First add the GPL folder to a zip file, then add the zip file to the CD. >> > When you unzip the contents they will have the original attributes set. >> >> Exactly. I do this every few weeks with GPL. It's also the only way to get >> my GPL folder *onto* a CD now, as it's getting kinda big... >> >> >> > >
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