iRacing - My slant

For the noobs - http://www.iracing.com/home.html A few months back I get an email from iRacing letting me know about a 3 months for $25 deal. Sounds too good to resist and I feel an itch to scratch so I go and spend over $1000 on new computer, G25 and seat! :) Though there is the odd issue or 2, overall it is the best thing since GPL. I had said in here donkeys years ago that the sim racing world was screaming out for something like this (i.e. official racing series run by sim company) and upon my iRacing experience I can tell you all that I was dead right. The helter skelter atmosphere is gone. There is no need to fish around for patches, mods, tracks and then leagues - it is all there in 1 place for you. It is fantastic to simply be able to hook up your stuff and go racing. My view presently is that the new iteration of the physics engine is so taxing on the cpu that some of the complaints (and they are mostly minor) about things will get fixed as cpu power allows them to add more bells and whistles. Just a ton of great stuff on the horizon - Indianapolis has just been released and will be shortly followed by the Aussie V8, including Phillip Island, the Indy cars and Indy Lights, CR-6 Corvette, etc. They have also taken a further step of merging the simulator with the real world with the launch of inRacingNews - http://www.inracingnews.com/ as well as obviously increasing public awareness about the world of sim racing. Recently a plan was released for sponsorship at all levels as well. From the forum - On Car Sponsorship Series Sponsorship Forum Banner Ad Space inRacingNews.com Banner Ad Space Packages starting at $1000 For more information, contact: [email hidden]

[email hidden] (Byron Forbes) wrote: > On Car Sponsorship > Series Sponsorship > Forum Banner Ad Space > inRacingNews.com Banner Ad Space This kind of thing is a real turnoff for me. But if it helps bring the costs down, or subsidise the service, then it's very hard to complain. As I've said lots of times though, you're right... GPL2 is alive and well inside iRacing. Unfortunately they wrapped it in an expensive straight-jacket. The good news is that they're slowly -- one patch at a time, one feature at a time -- loosening the straps, letting the core engine breathe a little, and improving the value for money. Andrew McP

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> [email hidden] (Byron Forbes) wrote: > >> On Car Sponsorship >> Series Sponsorship >> Forum Banner Ad Space >> inRacingNews.com Banner Ad Space > > This kind of thing is a real turnoff for me. But if it helps bring the > costs down, > or subsidise the service, then it's very hard to complain. > > As I've said lots of times though, you're right... GPL2 is alive and well > inside > iRacing. Unfortunately they wrapped it in an expensive straight-jacket. > The good > news is that they're slowly -- one patch at a time, one feature at a > time -- > loosening the straps, letting the core engine breathe a little, and > improving the > value for money. > > Andrew McP

Can the engine be stalled yet?

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> > "Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> [email hidden] (Byron Forbes) wrote: >> >>> On Car Sponsorship >>> Series Sponsorship >>> Forum Banner Ad Space >>> inRacingNews.com Banner Ad Space >> >> This kind of thing is a real turnoff for me. But if it helps bring the >> costs down, >> or subsidise the service, then it's very hard to complain. >> >> As I've said lots of times though, you're right... GPL2 is alive and well >> inside >> iRacing. Unfortunately they wrapped it in an expensive straight-jacket. >> The good >> news is that they're slowly -- one patch at a time, one feature at a >> time -- >> loosening the straps, letting the core engine breathe a little, and >> improving the >> value for money. >> >> Andrew McP > > Can the engine be stalled yet?

No, only blown up by over revving. All cars are autos when in 1st gear! :) Big deal?

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> "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message > news:b98wm.187371$[email hidden]... >> >> "Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> [email hidden] (Byron Forbes) wrote: >>> >>>> On Car Sponsorship >>>> Series Sponsorship >>>> Forum Banner Ad Space >>>> inRacingNews.com Banner Ad Space >>> >>> This kind of thing is a real turnoff for me. But if it helps bring the >>> costs down, >>> or subsidise the service, then it's very hard to complain. >>> >>> As I've said lots of times though, you're right... GPL2 is alive and >>> well inside >>> iRacing. Unfortunately they wrapped it in an expensive straight-jacket. >>> The good >>> news is that they're slowly -- one patch at a time, one feature at a >>> time -- >>> loosening the straps, letting the core engine breathe a little, and >>> improving the >>> value for money. >>> >>> Andrew McP >> >> Can the engine be stalled yet? > > No, only blown up by over revving. All cars are autos when in 1st gear! > :) > > Big deal?

Not too big. But shows an underlying tendency on the part of the devs to panda to wimps and crybabies.

agree game is biggest facade hidden under mask of laser tracks ever seen. nothing better than 8 years ago in areas where it counts. when race drivers note another sim dominates physics there is a problem imo http://psrtv.com/podcast/index.php?p=episode&name=2009-03-17_theopinionnation_e11.mp3 shift is great too

Gota say if you race RL there is no other way to go. I just tried Summit Point in rFactor (a converter GPL track AFAIK) and it wasn't even close. iRacing has the tracks and physics down, all you cryers and moaners are just fucking jealous because you don't have the money to spend. Admit it and move on. Nothing compares to it regardless of how much pissing and moaning goes on. You either can afford it or you can't. Stop whining and move on.

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>On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:54:06 -0700 (PDT), jelloshooter69 <[email hidden]> wrote: >agree game is biggest facade hidden under mask of laser tracks ever >seen. nothing better than 8 years ago in areas where it counts. when >race drivers note another sim dominates physics there is a problem imo >http://psrtv.com/podcast/index.php?p=episode&name=2009-03-17_theopinionnation_e11.mp3 > >shift is great too

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> > "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4ac119ab$[email hidden]... >> "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message >> news:b98wm.187371$[email hidden]... >>> >>> "Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:[email hidden]... >>>> [email hidden] (Byron Forbes) wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Car Sponsorship >>>>> Series Sponsorship >>>>> Forum Banner Ad Space >>>>> inRacingNews.com Banner Ad Space >>>> >>>> This kind of thing is a real turnoff for me. But if it helps bring the >>>> costs down, >>>> or subsidise the service, then it's very hard to complain. >>>> >>>> As I've said lots of times though, you're right... GPL2 is alive and >>>> well inside >>>> iRacing. Unfortunately they wrapped it in an expensive straight-jacket. >>>> The good >>>> news is that they're slowly -- one patch at a time, one feature at a >>>> time -- >>>> loosening the straps, letting the core engine breathe a little, and >>>> improving the >>>> value for money. >>>> >>>> Andrew McP >>> >>> Can the engine be stalled yet? >> >> No, only blown up by over revving. All cars are autos when in 1st gear! >> :) >> >> Big deal? > > Not too big. But shows an underlying tendency on the part of the devs to > panda to wimps and crybabies.

When I first joined I had a single core 3gig cpu/8500 graphics - no where near enough. Now have a quad 3.2gig/8500 graphics - no problems. Point being, the present physics engine is already taxing the cpu big time. To anyone who's used Papy stuff over the years it is clear that a ton of the bells and whistles are simply not there yet and I'll bet the cpu tax is the reason - as technology catches up/gets cheaper, all this sort of stuff will be addressed. It is important to remember that presently they have X amount of series running - there are still a lot of people who don't even have a clutch. As the membership grows and the feasibility to add new series increases, I'm sure we will start to see series where auto clutch and auto blip are disabled and to run in those series will require the use of a clutch. Obviously, at that time, engines will no doubt be able to stall! :)

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:09:41 -0400, GaryR <[email hidden]> wrote: >You either can afford it or you >can't. Stop whining and move on. I can afford it, and the reason I can afford it is because I am not the type of person who wastes good money on monthly fees for online games.

I was being a bit sarcastic, but it is the best simulation out there at the momemt.

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>On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:18:52 -0700, Eric Von Zipper <[email hidden]> wrote: >On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:09:41 -0400, GaryR <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>You either can afford it or you >>can't. Stop whining and move on. > >I can afford it, and the reason I can afford it is because I am not >the type of person who wastes good money on monthly fees for online >games.

Fucking fanboy, arse fucker. "GaryR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Gota say if you race RL there is no other way to go. I just tried > Summit Point in rFactor (a converter GPL track AFAIK) and it wasn't > even close. iRacing has the tracks and physics down, all you cryers > and moaners are just fucking jealous because you don't have the money > to spend. Admit it and move on. Nothing compares to it regardless of > how much pissing and moaning goes on. You either can afford it or you > can't. Stop whining and move on. > > >>On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:54:06 -0700 (PDT), jelloshooter69 >><[email hidden]> wrote: >>agree game is biggest facade hidden under mask of laser tracks ever >>seen. nothing better than 8 years ago in areas where it counts. when >>race drivers note another sim dominates physics there is a problem imo >>http://psrtv.com/podcast/index.php?p=episode&name=2009-03-17_theopinionnation_e11.mp3 >> >>shift is great too >

>      My view presently is that the new iteration "Iteration"? My god, how I hate that word. It ranks right up there with "resonate" as two of the most overly-used words in the English language. Anyhow, I tried iRacing, using that 3-month dealie, and played ONCE. The game is so restrictive. If I'm paying for something I want to be able to create my own league and run what I want to run. Alan

"Alan_Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > My view presently is that the new iteration >"Iteration"? My god, how I hate that word. It ranks right up there >with "resonate" as two of the most overly-used words in the English >language. 'Cunt' is another, Alan.

"Alan_Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > My view presently is that the new iteration "Iteration"? My god, how I hate that word. It ranks right up there with "resonate" as two of the most overly-used words in the English language. Anyhow, I tried iRacing, using that 3-month dealie, and played ONCE. The game is so restrictive. If I'm paying for something I want to be able to create my own league and run what I want to run. Alan I believe that's about 5 weeks away i.e. the next *iteration* of iRacing with leagues Personally, after being on iRacing for a few months I wouldn't give you 2 cents for leagues anymore - I race when I please - when it suits me down to the ground - not according to a restrictive league schedule.

On Sep 29, 12:09 am, GaryR <[email hidden]> wrote: > Nothing compares to it regardless of > how much pissing and moaning goes on. You either can afford it or you > can't.  Stop whining and move on. not the money, could afford it easily. but you could laser scan a track and add it to any other game, doesn't change the core aspect of it. was just showing through the eyes of someone who races regularly physics arent closer than another. guess it's because there was no expansion of the core or more important segments of the software which reflect the necessary items to make it feel and respond correctly. data points for suspension, aero, shock, tires i guess are much more detailed in the other software

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:45:02 +0100, "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote: >'Cunt' is another, Alan. You cunt!

On Sep 29, 1:45 pm, "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote:

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> "Alan_Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > My view presently is that the new iteration > >"Iteration"?  My god, how I hate that word.  It ranks right up there > >with "resonate" as two of the most overly-used words in the English > >language. > > 'Cunt' is another, Alan.

I like it when people talk big when they are so anonymous. I wonder if you'd call me that face-to-face? But don't bother to reply. I blocked you, as I've done before. Alan

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> "Alan_Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > My view presently is that the new iteration > > "Iteration"?  My god, how I hate that word.  It ranks right up there > with "resonate" as two of the most overly-used words in the English > language. > > Anyhow, I tried iRacing, using that 3-month dealie, and played ONCE. > The game is so restrictive.  If I'm paying for something I want to be > able to create my own league and run what I want to run. > > Alan > >    I believe that's about 5 weeks away i.e. the next *iteration* of iRacing > with leagues > >     Personally, after being on iRacing for a few months I wouldn't give you > 2 cents for leagues anymore - I race when I please - when it suits me down > to the ground - not according to a restrictive league schedule.

By leagues I mean my own league, not something that iRacing creates. That's one of the reasons I don't mess with iRacing. They want you to pay for the service and then they tell you when you can race. Alan

"Alan_Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... On Sep 29, 4:40 pm, "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> "Alan_Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > My view presently is that the new iteration > > "Iteration"? My god, how I hate that word. It ranks right up there > with "resonate" as two of the most overly-used words in the English > language. > > Anyhow, I tried iRacing, using that 3-month dealie, and played ONCE. > The game is so restrictive. If I'm paying for something I want to be > able to create my own league and run what I want to run. > > Alan > > I believe that's about 5 weeks away i.e. the next *iteration* of iRacing > with leagues > > Personally, after being on iRacing for a few months I wouldn't give you > 2 cents for leagues anymore - I race when I please - when it suits me down > to the ground - not according to a restrictive league schedule.

By leagues I mean my own league, not something that iRacing creates. That's one of the reasons I don't mess with iRacing. They want you to pay for the service and then they tell you when you can race. Alan and, as I said, that changes in 5 weeks.

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> >Nothing compares to it regardless of > >how much pissing and moaning goes on. You either can afford it or you > >can't. Stop whining and move on. >not the money, could afford it easily. but you could laser scan a >track and add it to any other game, doesn't change the core aspect of >it. was just showing through the eyes of someone who races regularly >physics arent closer than another. guess it's because there was no >expansion of the core or more important segments of the software which >reflect the necessary items to make it feel and respond correctly. >data points for suspension, aero, shock, tires i guess are much more >detailed in the other software

Well said.

On Sep 30, 5:07 pm, "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote:

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> "jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > On Sep 29, 12:09 am, GaryR <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >Nothing compares to it regardless of > > >how much pissing and moaning goes on. You either can afford it or you > > >can't. Stop whining and move on. > >not the money, could afford it easily. but you could laser scan a > >track and add it to any other game, doesn't change the core aspect of > >it. was just showing through the eyes of someone who races regularly > >physics arent closer than another. guess it's because there was no > >expansion of the core or more important segments of the software which > >reflect the necessary items to make it feel and respond correctly. > >data points for suspension, aero, shock, tires i guess are much more > >detailed in the other software > > Well said.

really? no cunt, dick sucker, ass licker? j/k lol i said before "iponzi" racing. lol

"jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... On Sep 30, 5:07 pm, "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote:

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> "jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > On Sep 29, 12:09 am, GaryR <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >Nothing compares to it regardless of > > >how much pissing and moaning goes on. You either can afford it or you > > >can't. Stop whining and move on. > >not the money, could afford it easily. but you could laser scan a > >track and add it to any other game, doesn't change the core aspect of > >it. was just showing through the eyes of someone who races regularly > >physics arent closer than another. guess it's because there was no > >expansion of the core or more important segments of the software which > >reflect the necessary items to make it feel and respond correctly. > >data points for suspension, aero, shock, tires i guess are much more > >detailed in the other software > > Well said. >really? no cunt, dick sucker, ass licker? j/k lol

It's the extremist on both sides that get called that.

On Oct 1, 2:25 am, "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote:

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> "jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > On Sep 30, 5:07 pm, "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> > wrote: > > > > > > > "jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >news:[email hidden]... > > On Sep 29, 12:09 am, GaryR <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >Nothing compares to it regardless of > > > >how much pissing and moaning goes on. You either can afford it or you > > > >can't. Stop whining and move on. > > >not the money, could afford it easily. but you could laser scan a > > >track and add it to any other game, doesn't change the core aspect of > > >it. was just showing through the eyes of someone who races regularly > > >physics arent closer than another. guess it's because there was no > > >expansion of the core or more important segments of the software which > > >reflect the necessary items to make it feel and respond correctly. > > >data points for suspension, aero, shock, tires i guess are much more > > >detailed in the other software > > > Well said. > >really? no cunt, dick sucker, ass licker?  j/k  lol > > It's the extremist on both sides that get called that.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -

I see .. :) good software but not as strong underneath as you would expect for the money or as perceived & touted by the far right either.

"jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... On Oct 1, 2:25 am, "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote:

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> "jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > On Sep 30, 5:07 pm, "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> > wrote: > > > > > > > "jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >news:[email hidden]... > > On Sep 29, 12:09 am, GaryR <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >Nothing compares to it regardless of > > > >how much pissing and moaning goes on. You either can afford it or you > > > >can't. Stop whining and move on. > > >not the money, could afford it easily. but you could laser scan a > > >track and add it to any other game, doesn't change the core aspect of > > >it. was just showing through the eyes of someone who races regularly > > >physics arent closer than another. guess it's because there was no > > >expansion of the core or more important segments of the software which > > >reflect the necessary items to make it feel and respond correctly. > > >data points for suspension, aero, shock, tires i guess are much more > > >detailed in the other software > > > Well said. > >really? no cunt, dick sucker, ass licker? j/k lol > > It's the extremist on both sides that get called that.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -

I see .. :) good software but not as strong underneath as you would expect for the money or as perceived & touted by the far right either. --- As with most things, it isn't for all people. Different people get different value out of various products and services. It comes down to the individual deciding for their own needs if it is worth the price at the end of the day. For me I feel it is. If you are someone that wants AI or other specific features then iRacing defintely isn't for you, but that could be said for any sim if you want very specific features. It is not the be all and end all sim the far right claim, nor is it the pos ponzi scheme the left makes it out to be. One thing is for sure, regardless of if you like it or not, it seems a number of people both within and outside of the service feel it is important enough to continually bring up, so it certainly remains on the radar be it good or bad, when other sims and games come and go...

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> As with most things, it isn't for all people. Different people get > different value out of various products and services. It comes down to > the individual deciding for their own needs if it is worth the price at > the end of the day. For me I feel it is. If you are someone that wants > AI or other specific features then iRacing defintely isn't for you, but > that could be said for any sim if you want very specific features. It is > not the be all and end all sim the far right claim, nor is it the pos > ponzi scheme the left makes it out to be. One thing is for sure, > regardless of if you like it or not, it seems a number of people both > within and outside of the service feel it is important enough to > continually bring up, so it certainly remains on the radar be it good or > bad, when other sims and games come and go...

Let's face it - it is 2nd to none as a pure simulator but the HUGE difference is the community aspect, forum and add a mix of real life drivers and it's a clear winner - what more could you want? Oh, and by the way, the Pro series, which is a feeder (top 50 qualify for iDWC) for next years inaugural iRacind Drivers World Championship (iDWC) is presently running. See Towler, Huttu, McLean, Purdy, etc going head to head is a bit of a treat to say the least! :) So what else is there that even comes close to stacking up to this? And I'm serious - been out of the loop for a while. Is there anything else even close? <Achilles in Troy mode on> "IS THERE NO ONE ELSE!" LOL

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> "schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:B20xm.47309$PH1.41359@edtnps82... > > 2nd to none, Oh, and by the way, the Pro series, which is a feeder (top 50 qualify > for iDWC) for next years inaugural iRacind Drivers World Championship (iDWC) > is presently running. See Towler, Huttu, McLean, Purdy, etc going head to > head is a bit of a treat to say the least! :) >

as titled by you and other iponzi investors?. not sure i have ever seen them in actual race cars performing at a similar level? so to others, they're good at iracing, nothing more, than say the worlds best mario brothers gamer? but i am sure it is entertaining, no more than other race sims recorded before i imagine.

And if i'm not mistaken the winner of iRacing's TDI Series gets a full boat free ride in the RL TDI Cup in the iRacing VW next year. That's not friggin bad!!! GR

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>On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:21:09 +1000, "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Let's face it - it is 2nd to none as a pure simulator but the HUGE >difference is the community aspect, forum and add a mix of real life drivers >and it's a clear winner - what more could you want? > > Oh, and by the way, the Pro series, which is a feeder (top 50 qualify >for iDWC) for next years inaugural iRacind Drivers World Championship (iDWC) >is presently running. See Towler, Huttu, McLean, Purdy, etc going head to >head is a bit of a treat to say the least! :) > > So what else is there that even comes close to stacking up to this? And >I'm serious - been out of the loop for a while. Is there anything else even >close? > > <Achilles in Troy mode on> "IS THERE NO ONE ELSE!" > >LOL

On Oct 1, 10:12 am, GaryR <[email hidden]> wrote: > And if i'm not mistaken the winner of iRacing's TDI Series gets a full > boat free ride in the RL TDI Cup in the iRacing VW next year. That's > not friggin bad!!! > > GR thats awesome but also not really racing imo, vw diesel 100 hp fwd cars at 80 mph? can get that at a rental counter of any major airport and near any major interstate? j/k

"jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... On Oct 1, 8:21 am, "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> "schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:B20xm.47309$PH1.41359@edtnps82... > > 2nd to none, Oh, and by the way, the Pro series, which is a feeder (top 50 > qualify > for iDWC) for next years inaugural iRacind Drivers World Championship > (iDWC) > is presently running. See Towler, Huttu, McLean, Purdy, etc going head to > head is a bit of a treat to say the least! :) >

as titled by you and other iponzi investors?. not sure i have ever seen them in actual race cars performing at a similar level? so to others, they're good at iracing, nothing more, than say the worlds best mario brothers gamer? but i am sure it is entertaining, no more than other race sims recorded before i imagine. Who gives a shit about actual race cars - this is sim racing. What are you doing wasting your time in this fantasy newsgroup stupid? Forgot to mention - winner of iDWC gets money and prizes to the value of $10,000 (and believe it or not, that's not monopoly money either).

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> "jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > On Oct 1, 8:21 am, "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > "schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >news:B20xm.47309$PH1.41359@edtnps82... > > > 2nd to none, Oh, and by the way, the Pro series, which is a feeder (top 50 > > qualify > > for iDWC) for next years inaugural iRacind Drivers World Championship > > (iDWC) > > is presently running. See Towler, Huttu, McLean, Purdy, etc going head to > > head is a bit of a treat to say the least! :) > > as titled by you and other iponzi investors?. not sure i have ever > seen them in actual race cars performing at a similar level? so to > others, they're good at iracing, nothing more, than say the worlds > best mario brothers gamer? but i am sure it is entertaining, no more > than other race sims recorded before i imagine. > >     Who gives a shit about actual race cars - this is sim racing. What are > you doing wasting your time in this fantasy newsgroup stupid? > >    Forgot to mention - winner of iDWC gets money and prizes to the value of > $10,000 (and believe it or not, that's not monopoly money either).

the sim is shown and sold as the worlds most advanced based against reality, in fact clearly it's not. can't be in current state and is limitedly better than its predecessor which is 8 yrs older? pro series only means they are the best at exploit racing not best at racing because to be fast means bizarre unrealistic setups. when they race real life this was reflected in depressive result

"jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... On Oct 2, 8:54 am, "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote: > "jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > pro series only means they are the best at exploit racing not best at racing because to be fast means bizarre unrealistic setups. when they race real life this was reflected in depressive result Like they were ever trying to pretend this meant they could be F1 Champs were they? Sim racing is a sport unto itself bozo! Pretty funny when the wanker thinks everyone else is the wanker!

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> On Oct 1, 10:12 am, GaryR <[email hidden]> wrote: >> And if i'm not mistaken the winner of iRacing's TDI Series gets a full >> boat free ride in the RL TDI Cup in the iRacing VW next year. That's >> not friggin bad!!! >> >> GR > > > thats awesome but also not really racing imo, vw diesel 100 hp fwd > cars at 80 mph? can get that at a rental counter of any major airport > and near any major interstate? j/k

http://www.inracingnews.com/standings

Please tell me what series you race in so I can tune in to watch! I race RL amatuer (Porsche Club and NASA) and I wouldn't look down my nose at ANY form of professional car racing. GR

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>On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:57:45 -0700 (PDT), jelloshooter69 <[email hidden]> wrote: >On Oct 1, 10:12�am, GaryR <[email hidden]> wrote: >> And if i'm not mistaken the winner of iRacing's TDI Series gets a full >> boat free ride in the RL TDI Cup in the iRacing VW next year. That's >> not friggin bad!!! >> >> GR > > >thats awesome but also not really racing imo, vw diesel 100 hp fwd >cars at 80 mph? can get that at a rental counter of any major airport >and near any major interstate? j/k

jelloshooter69 wrote: > thats awesome but also not really racing imo, vw diesel 100 hp fwd > cars at 80 mph? can get that at a rental counter of any major airport > and near any major interstate? j/k Doesn't sound the most exciting race car for sure, although you have sold the Jetta powerplant 70bhp short - it is 170bhp ~140mph The racing though is as real as any other form of motor racing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD7PowR9GlE

On Oct 6, 3:16 pm, Tony R <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> jelloshooter69 wrote: > > thats awesome but also not really racing imo, vw diesel 100 hp fwd > > cars at 80 mph? can get that at a rental counter of any major airport > > and near any major  interstate?  j/k > > Doesn't sound the most exciting race car for sure, although you have > sold the Jetta powerplant 70bhp short - it is 170bhp ~140mph > > The racing though is as real as any other form of motor racing: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD7PowR9GlE

wooo hooo, looks exciting not, blah rather watch "biggest loser". speaking of which Jack B has cost iponzi more signups than anything else http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=338844&page=5 , searching for info his stupid posts come up a lot in google. customer should get a refund no reason they can't @ worse a month should be kept and 11 months refunded. jack b should be told to ride off somewhere a joke!

"jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Oct 6, 3:16 pm, Tony R <[email hidden]> > wrote: >> jelloshooter69 wrote: >> > thats awesome but also not really racing imo, vw diesel 100 hp fwd >> > cars at 80 mph? can get that at a rental counter of any major airport >> > and near any major interstate? j/k >> >> Doesn't sound the most exciting race car for sure, although you have >> sold the Jetta powerplant 70bhp short - it is 170bhp ~140mph >> >> The racing though is as real as any other form of motor racing: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD7PowR9GlE > > wooo hooo, looks exciting not, blah rather watch "biggest loser". > speaking of which Jack B has cost iponzi more signups than anything > else http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=338844&page=5 , > searching for info his stupid posts come up a lot in google. customer > should get a refund no reason they can't @ worse a month should be > kept and 11 months refunded. jack b should be told to ride off > somewhere a joke!

I'm no fan of this practice but "iPonzi" is simply an incorrect analogy anyway. Whatever anyone thinks, there is a post by a person (fellow Aussie in fact) being recently auto billed for 12 months sitting on the iRacing forums since Sept 29 culminating in the following today from Tim - "Right now we send emails to people who have auto renew enabled 2 weeks before their payment is due. We also email those who disabled auto renew to ask them to renew manually. Lastly, we also email those who did not renew to ask them back. Just recently got the capability to do this, but everyone should be aware now if they're not blocking our domains emails." In any case, some seemed to like things as it was - "Note to self...select 'autobill' and tell the wife...ooops...sorry about that...hehehe." :) In a month there will be private servers - how will they bash iRacing then?

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>> speaking of which Jack B has cost iponzi more signups than anything >> else http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=338844&page=5 , > Whatever anyone thinks, there is a post by a person (fellow Aussie > in fact) being recently auto billed for 12 months sitting on the > iRacing forums since Sept 29 culminating in the following today from > Tim - > "Right now we send emails to people who have auto renew enabled 2 weeks > before their payment is due."

Has iRacing always sent out these auto-renewal email notices? If so, then why the complaints, the "iracing ripoff" thread here, the jack b thread above, and now some Aussie guy? Then again, why have auto-renewal at all, especially for the yearly subscriptions? The players that like the game are going to renew anyway, and it's only going to create complaints from the players that didn't want to auto-renew.

"Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4acd271b$[email hidden]... "jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Oct 6, 3:16 pm, Tony R <[email hidden]> > wrote: >> jelloshooter69 wrote: >> > thats awesome but also not really racing imo, vw diesel 100 hp fwd >> > cars at 80 mph? can get that at a rental counter of any major airport >> > and near any major interstate? j/k >> >> Doesn't sound the most exciting race car for sure, although you have >> sold the Jetta powerplant 70bhp short - it is 170bhp ~140mph >> >> The racing though is as real as any other form of motor racing: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD7PowR9GlE > > wooo hooo, looks exciting not, blah rather watch "biggest loser". > speaking of which Jack B has cost iponzi more signups than anything > else http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=338844&page=5 , > searching for info his stupid posts come up a lot in google. customer > should get a refund no reason they can't @ worse a month should be > kept and 11 months refunded. jack b should be told to ride off > somewhere a joke! > In a month there will be private servers - how will they bash iRacing > then?

They will find a way.

"jeffareid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4Rfzm.40231$[email hidden]...

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>>> speaking of which Jack B has cost iponzi more signups than anything >>> else http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=338844&page=5 , > >> Whatever anyone thinks, there is a post by a person (fellow Aussie >> in fact) being recently auto billed for 12 months sitting on the >> iRacing forums since Sept 29 culminating in the following today from >> Tim - > >> "Right now we send emails to people who have auto renew enabled 2 weeks >> before their payment is due." > > Has iRacing always sent out these auto-renewal email notices? If so, then > why the complaints, the "iracing ripoff" thread here, the jack b thread > above, and now some Aussie guy? >

No, this is no doubt a reaction to recent complaints. A refund was asked for but so far it looks like that wont happen.

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> Then again, why have auto-renewal at all, especially for the yearly > subscriptions? The players that like the game are going to renew anyway, > and it's only going to create complaints from the players that didn't > want to auto-renew. > > >

>>> else http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=338844&page=5 >> Has iRacing always sent out these auto-renewal email notices? > No, this is no doubt a reaction to recent complaints. Looking at that thread and doing a web search, it seems that a few states (USA) require (consumer law) these notices. Then again, being a consumer law, there's seldom any fine or other risk, since minor infractions tend to get ignored, other than the person usually may a refund, if that person lives in one of those few locations that even have such a law. Then again, maybe it was due to the thread here and the Jack B thread, and the negative publicity. Regardless of the reason, they're sending out notices now, so problem solved for any future auto-renewals. Would be nice if that guy got a refund though.

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>>>> else http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=338844&page=5 >>> Has iRacing always sent out these auto-renewal email notices? >> No, this is no doubt a reaction to recent complaints. > > Looking at that thread and doing a web search, it seems that a few states > (USA) require (consumer law) these notices. Then again, being a consumer > law, there's seldom any fine or other risk, since minor infractions tend > to get ignored, other than the person usually may a refund, if that person > lives in one of those few locations that even have such a law. > > Then again, maybe it was due to the thread here and the Jack B thread, > and the negative publicity. > > Regardless of the reason, they're sending out notices now, so problem > solved for any future auto-renewals. Would be nice if that guy got > a refund though.

Would it fuck! He should have been more on the ball.

>Sim racing is a sport unto itself bozo!< Not sport .... game.

"Niles Anders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NNlCm.16358$[email hidden]... > >Sim racing is a sport unto itself bozo!< > > Not sport .... game. I agree. It's no more a sport than chess is.

On Oct 17, 11:57 am, "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote:

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> "Niles Anders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:NNlCm.16358$[email hidden]... > > > >Sim racing is a sport unto itself bozo!< > > > Not sport .... game. > > I agree. It's no more a sport than chess is.

i broke a sweat once in chess never in sim race?

In North America there are so many leagues available at all different times league schedules are not restrictive. That may apply to Australia but not North America. Byron Forbes wrote:

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> "Alan_Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> My view presently is that the new iteration > > "Iteration"? My god, how I hate that word. It ranks right up there > with "resonate" as two of the most overly-used words in the English > language. > > Anyhow, I tried iRacing, using that 3-month dealie, and played ONCE. > The game is so restrictive. If I'm paying for something I want to be > able to create my own league and run what I want to run. > > Alan > > > I believe that's about 5 weeks away i.e. the next *iteration* of > iRacing with leagues > > Personally, after being on iRacing for a few months I wouldn't give > you 2 cents for leagues anymore - I race when I please - when it suits > me down to the ground - not according to a restrictive league schedule.

"David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message news:xPlCm.9078$[email hidden]...

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> > "Niles Anders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:NNlCm.16358$[email hidden]... >> >Sim racing is a sport unto itself bozo!< >> >> Not sport .... game. > > I agree. It's no more a sport than chess is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess#Birth_of_a_sport_.281850.E2.80.931945.29 Dale Earnhardt gets nervous before he sim races! :) - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/automobiles/18SIM.html?_r=3&emc=eta1

On Oct 17, 8:16 pm, "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in messagenews:xPlCm.9078$[email hidden]... > > > > > "Niles Anders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:NNlCm.16358$[email hidden]... > >> >Sim racing is a sport unto itself bozo!< > > >> Not sport .... game. > > > I agree. It's no more a sport than chess is. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess#Birth_of_a_sport_.281850.E2.80.931... > >    Dale Earnhardt gets nervous before he sim races! :)  -http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/automobiles/18SIM.html?_r=3&emc=eta1

not sure but his performance sucks coincides with a certain release of a product too? jus saying? ;)

"jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Oct 17, 8:16 pm, "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in >> messagenews:xPlCm.9078$[email hidden]... >> >> >> >> > "Niles Anders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >news:NNlCm.16358$[email hidden]... >> >> >Sim racing is a sport unto itself bozo!< >> >> >> Not sport .... game. >> >> > I agree. It's no more a sport than chess is. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess#Birth_of_a_sport_.281850.E2.80.931... >> >> Dale Earnhardt gets nervous before he sim races! >> ) -http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/automobiles/18SIM.html?_r=3&emc=eta1 > > not sure but his performance sucks coincides with a certain release of > a product too? jus saying? ;)

Yeah, thought that too - maybe too much simming, not enough real stuff! :)

On Oct 18, 7:51 am, "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> "jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > On Oct 17, 8:16 pm, "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in > >> messagenews:xPlCm.9078$[email hidden]... > > >> > "Niles Anders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> >news:NNlCm.16358$[email hidden]... > >> >> >Sim racing is a sport unto itself bozo!< > > >> >> Not sport .... game. > > >> > I agree. It's no more a sport than chess is. > > >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess#Birth_of_a_sport_.281850.E2.80.931... > > >>    Dale Earnhardt gets nervous before he sim races! > >> )  -http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/automobiles/18SIM.html?_r=3&emc=eta1 > > > not sure but his performance sucks coincides with a certain release of > > a product too? jus saying? ;) > >     Yeah, thought that too - maybe too much simming, not enough real stuff! > :)

lol, i was joking, but really if he plays it that much and the reality that it drives no where near accurately must mentally affect something i guess needs a better sim or quit that one

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> On Oct 18, 7:51 am, "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> "jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >> news:[email hidden]... >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Oct 17, 8:16 pm, "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in >> >> messagenews:xPlCm.9078$[email hidden]... >> >> >> > "Niles Anders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >> >news:NNlCm.16358$[email hidden]... >> >> >> >Sim racing is a sport unto itself bozo!< >> >> >> >> Not sport .... game. >> >> >> > I agree. It's no more a sport than chess is. >> >> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess#Birth_of_a_sport_.281850.E2.80.931... >> >> >> Dale Earnhardt gets nervous before he sim races! >> >> >> > ) -http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/automobiles/18SIM.html?_r=3&emc=eta1 >> >> > not sure but his performance sucks coincides with a certain release of >> > a product too? jus saying? ;) >> >> Yeah, thought that too - maybe too much simming, not enough real >> stuff! >> :) > > lol, i was joking, but really if he plays it that much and the reality > that it drives no where near accurately must mentally affect something > i guess needs a better sim or quit that one

He's won all there is to win in NASCAR right? Probably likes the new challenge of simming against fellow aliens! :)

On Oct 18, 11:27 am, "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> "jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > On Oct 18, 7:51 am, "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> "jelloshooter69" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >>news:[email hidden]... > > >> > On Oct 17, 8:16 pm, "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> >> "David G Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in > >> >> messagenews:xPlCm.9078$[email hidden]... > > >> >> > "Niles Anders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> >> >news:NNlCm.16358$[email hidden]... > >> >> >> >Sim racing is a sport unto itself bozo!< > > >> >> >> Not sport .... game. > > >> >> > I agree. It's no more a sport than chess is. > > >> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess#Birth_of_a_sport_.281850.E2.80.931... > > >> >>    Dale Earnhardt gets nervous before he sim races! > > >> >>  > )  -http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/automobiles/18SIM.html?_r=3&emc=eta1 > > >> > not sure but his performance sucks coincides with a certain release of > >> > a product too? jus saying? ;) > > >>     Yeah, thought that too - maybe too much simming, not enough real > >> stuff! > >> :) > > > lol, i was joking, but really if he plays it that much and the reality > > that it drives no where near accurately must mentally affect something > > i guess   needs a better sim or quit that one > >     He's won all there is to win in NASCAR right? Probably likes the new > challenge of simming against fellow aliens! :)

it is worse than thought about deceit, http://www.business-litigation-associates.com/iRacing.pdf Here is transcript comments about actual truth under oath "The question that was asked of DK was very simple, "How much of the original NR2003 code remains in the iRacing software?" DK responded with, "I do not know exactly, but I estimate 65% is unaltered NR2003 code" Tim R's lawyer asked, "So why do you state as little as 1% to the media and on your own site?" DK responds with, "We tell the public and media a different number" Tim R's lawyer asked, "Why would you do that?" DK responds with, "We do not want our customers to know or they may not buy our product" http://www.thepits.us/board/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=15174&start=15 so looks like what they say on their site is one thing and truth another like over 15000 members probably is how many names they used from demos and such. money is evil