RASCAR: - Hey Bizman

What's the deal? YThe spotter gives the wrong car number when referring to your car (according to your paint scheme). Either change the car number in the car file, or change your paintscheme to match the car file. I shouldn't have to tell you why this is important. I think quitting was the wrong way to handle it. -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

I'll stand by John on this one... If we're to have a carset for this little friendly get together - the car should atleast be numbered correctly. If this is not done - I really dont see much point in having / maintaining a carset at all... Paint 'em however you like - but atleast number them correctly... meaning a number on eachside, roof, front and rear. -- ed_

Congratulations, the RASCAR police have managed to suck the fun out of what was supposed to be a casual fun low pressure get together. Unless you were going to let someone else have 65, then it would have never been an issue. But since its your group do what you want, as I said, I'm not going to put up with it. Nearly half the cars don't have near proper numbering on them to be recognizable on the track anyway. I don't read this forum that often, and I don't appreciate the post about you thinking you're being ignored. Good Luck with it, but you guys really need to chill. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What's the deal? YThe spotter gives the wrong car number when referring > to your car (according to your paint scheme). > > Either change the car number in the car file, or change your paintscheme > to match the car file. > > I shouldn't have to tell you why this is important. > > I think quitting was the wrong way to handle it. > > > > -- > ========================================================= > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > RASCAR Roster > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > =========================================================

In article <XfjD8.14622$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Congratulations, the RASCAR police have managed to suck the fun out of > what was supposed to be a casual fun low pressure get together. It *is* casual fun and low-pressure. However, to preserve the fun, we simply must be willing to play within the limits of the game. Those limits REQUIRE that cars be marked for easy identification. The ONLY thing I honestly care about is that the cars have numbers where we expect to see them, and that those numbers are easily seen and identifiable. This requires that the car file itself accurately reflect the number painted on the car. > Unless you were going to let someone else have 65, then it would have > never been an issue. But since its your group do what you want, as > I said, I'm not going to put up with it. Well, we couldn't very well let someone else HAVE 65 (or even 065) since we didn't know what you were intending to do. However, I don't think anybody was expecting you to act like a prick about it when we brought it up. > Nearly half the cars don't have near proper numbering on them to be > recognizable on the track anyway. Well, according to my last count, there were 60+ cars listed on the roster page. I only have pictures for about 2/3 of those, but if you can point out more than 10 of those that are not numbered in something that resembles an acceptable format, I'll conced the point. > I don't read this forum that often, > and I don't appreciate the post about you thinking you're being ignored. > Good Luck with it, but you guys really need to chill. It's not our fault that you're not compelled to keep abreast of what's going on around you. Further, my post about being ignored was a satirical remark intended for those of whom ARE keeping up with day-to- day business. Afterall, we don't have a crystal ball that warns us when someone doesn't read the forum very often. Instead of being a brainless ass, you might try using reason and logic when considering your presence in an online racing game. The stuff I (and others) brought up was simply for everyone else's benefits while on the track. If you don't see that, then I personally don't want you on the same track with me.

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> John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > What's the deal? YThe spotter gives the wrong car number when referring > > to your car (according to your paint scheme). > > > > Either change the car number in the car file, or change your paintscheme > > to match the car file. > > > > I shouldn't have to tell you why this is important. > > > > I think quitting was the wrong way to handle it.

-- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

Since I chose not to participate I'm glad you took the high road and didn't resort to name-calling, oh wait you did. You wanted me to make changes I didn't want to, for reasons I explained, so I chose not to race with you, let it go already. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <XfjD8.14622$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > Congratulations, the RASCAR police have managed to suck the fun out of > > what was supposed to be a casual fun low pressure get together. > > It *is* casual fun and low-pressure. However, to preserve the fun, we > simply must be willing to play within the limits of the game. Those > limits REQUIRE that cars be marked for easy identification. > > The ONLY thing I honestly care about is that the cars have numbers where > we expect to see them, and that those numbers are easily seen and > identifiable. This requires that the car file itself accurately reflect > the number painted on the car. > > > Unless you were going to let someone else have 65, then it would have > > never been an issue. But since its your group do what you want, as > > I said, I'm not going to put up with it. > > Well, we couldn't very well let someone else HAVE 65 (or even 065) since > we didn't know what you were intending to do. However, I don't think > anybody was expecting you to act like a prick about it when we brought > it up. > > > Nearly half the cars don't have near proper numbering on them to be > > recognizable on the track anyway. > > Well, according to my last count, there were 60+ cars listed on the > roster page. I only have pictures for about 2/3 of those, but if you > can point out more than 10 of those that are not numbered in something > that resembles an acceptable format, I'll conced the point. > > > I don't read this forum that often, > > and I don't appreciate the post about you thinking you're being ignored. > > Good Luck with it, but you guys really need to chill. > > It's not our fault that you're not compelled to keep abreast of what's > going on around you. Further, my post about being ignored was a > satirical remark intended for those of whom ARE keeping up with day-to- > day business. Afterall, we don't have a crystal ball that warns us when > someone doesn't read the forum very often. > > Instead of being a brainless ass, you might try using reason and logic > when considering your presence in an online racing game. The stuff I > (and others) brought up was simply for everyone else's benefits while on > the track. If you don't see that, then I personally don't want you on > the same track with me. > > > > John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > What's the deal? YThe spotter gives the wrong car number when referring > > > to your car (according to your paint scheme). > > > > > > Either change the car number in the car file, or change your paintscheme > > > to match the car file. > > > > > > I shouldn't have to tell you why this is important. > > > > > > I think quitting was the wrong way to handle it. > > > > -- > ========================================================= > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > RASCAR Roster > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > =========================================================

"Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message news:CsiD8.13398$[email hidden]... > > Paint 'em however you like - but atleast number them correctly... meaninga > number on eachside, roof, front and rear. > It's nice when you guys have a number on the right rear near the tail light as well. Contrasting colours make it stand out as well. Although, using the good old standby of F2 helps when lining up as well.

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> Well, we couldn't very well let someone else HAVE 65 (or even 065) since > we didn't know what you were intending to do. However, I don't think > anybody was expecting you to act like a prick about it when we brought > it up. > Well, according to my last count, there were 60+ cars listed on the > roster page. I only have pictures for about 2/3 of those, but if you > can point out more than 10 of those that are not numbered in something > that resembles an acceptable format, I'll conced the point. > It's not our fault that you're not compelled to keep abreast of what's > going on around you. Further, my post about being ignored was a > satirical remark intended for those of whom ARE keeping up with day-to- > day business. Afterall, we don't have a crystal ball that warns us when > someone doesn't read the forum very often. > Instead of being a brainless ass, you might try using reason and logic > when considering your presence in an online racing game. The stuff I > (and others) brought up was simply for everyone else's benefits while on > the track. If you don't see that, then I personally don't want you on > the same track with me.

The minute someone doesn't agree with your version of how it should be, you start insulting them with abusive comments. You, sir, are a divot. Biz has the right idea.

Bejeezuz wrote: > > The minute someone doesn't agree with your version of how it should be, you start > insulting them with abusive comments. > You, sir, are a divot. > Biz has the right idea. What's a divot ? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Hey John, How were those cornflakes yesterday morning? spark

Bejeezuz wrote: > > You, sir, are a divot. Just curious, which one of these were you thinking about in regards to JS ? \Div"ot\, n. A thin, oblong turf used for covering cottages, and also for fuel. [Scot.] --Simmonds. Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, � 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc. 1: a piece of turf dug out of a lawn or fairway (by an animals hooves or a golf club) 2: (golf) the cavity left when a piece of turf is cut from the ground by the club head in making a stroke; "it was a good drive but the ball ended up in a divot" Source: WordNet � 1.6, � 1997 Princeton University --- Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> Congratulations, the RASCAR police have managed to suck the fun out > of what was supposed to be a casual fun low pressure get together. > Unless you were going to let someone else have 65, then it would > have never been an issue. But since its your group do what you want, > as I said, I'm not going to put up with it. Nearly half the cars > don't have near proper numbering on them to be recognizable on the > track anyway. I don't read this forum that often, and I don't > appreciate the post about you thinking you're being ignored. > Good Luck with it, but you guys really need to chill.

The idea is to create a fun environment, yes, but that doesn't mean it should be "lawless". The aim is to have distinct, recognisable cars for each competitor in turn in order to avoid having several generic, identical looking cars in the race (provided individual competitors keep their RASCAR carset up to date). John and Phil put in the effort to organise this, prevent number conflicts and compile the carset, therefore they get to call the shots in this respect. Requirements for running in RASCAR are very modest and I consider it a matter of common decency with regard to the organising members to comply with them. As I understand it, all you had to do was quit, change the number for your online car to match your paint scheme and reconnect. That doesn't sound like a lot of bother to me. Unless you really dislike being told what to do by John, of course. Jan. =---

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> Hey John, > > How were those cornflakes yesterday morning? > > spark > > >

LOL -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

In article <XjqD8.305$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> > > Instead of being a brainless ass, you might try using reason and logic > > when considering your presence in an online racing game. The stuff I > > (and others) brought up was simply for everyone else's benefits while on > > the track. If you don't see that, then I personally don't want you on > > the same track with me. > > The minute someone doesn't agree with your version of how it should be, you start > insulting them with abusive comments.

Do you even know what this discussion concerns? Didn't think so. > You, sir, are a divot. You might possibly mean bigot. > Biz has the right idea. You're clueless. -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

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> > Do you even know what this discussion concerns? Didn't think so. > > > You, sir, are a divot. > > You might possibly mean bigot. > > > Biz has the right idea. > > You're clueless. >

And you're an obnoxious, arrogant, stereotypical, American. I meant divot..as in a clump of dirt. Are you a bigot as well ? You don't have a lot going for you, do you ?

Perhaps john dosent have to insult him, if he doesnt want to race then thats fine, plenty of drivers. The numering is an issue because if you are on a pace lap for example and get told to pass the 30 car but u cant find one becomes very frustarting. Also now you are resulting to insults.... Luke "Bejeezuz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XjqD8.305$[email hidden]...

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> > > > Well, we couldn't very well let someone else HAVE 65 (or even 065) since > > we didn't know what you were intending to do. However, I don't think > > anybody was expecting you to act like a prick about it when we brought > > it up. > > Well, according to my last count, there were 60+ cars listed on the > > roster page. I only have pictures for about 2/3 of those, but if you > > can point out more than 10 of those that are not numbered in something > > that resembles an acceptable format, I'll conced the point. > > It's not our fault that you're not compelled to keep abreast of what's > > going on around you. Further, my post about being ignored was a > > satirical remark intended for those of whom ARE keeping up with day-to- > > day business. Afterall, we don't have a crystal ball that warns us when > > someone doesn't read the forum very often. > > Instead of being a brainless ass, you might try using reason and logic > > when considering your presence in an online racing game. The stuff I > > (and others) brought up was simply for everyone else's benefits while on > > the track. If you don't see that, then I personally don't want you on > > the same track with me. > > > The minute someone doesn't agree with your version of how it should be,

you start > insulting them with abusive comments. > You, sir, are a divot. > Biz has the right idea. > >

Bejeezuz wrote: > > And you're an obnoxious, arrogant, stereotypical, American. > I meant divot..as in a clump of dirt. > Are you a bigot as well ? You don't have a lot going for you, do you ? John has peers in this NG that respects him as a driver, as a sim editor and as a league administrator, some of us even respect him for his sense of humor and his no BS approach to dealing with issues, I guess that doesn't mean much to you Who are you again ? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> John has peers in this NG that respects him as a driver, as a sim editor > and as a league administrator, some of us even respect him for his sense > of humor and his no BS approach to dealing with issues, I guess that > doesn't mean much to you > > Who are you again ? >

The guy is an abusive little bully. I don't respect that. And I am just someone who is free to post on this subject, and any other, just like you and that other ignoramus, J.Simmons.

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> > > > John has peers in this NG that respects him as a driver, as a sim editor > > and as a league administrator, some of us even respect him for his sense > > of humor and his no BS approach to dealing with issues, I guess that > > doesn't mean much to you > > > > Who are you again ? > > > > The guy is an abusive little bully. I don't respect that. > And I am just someone who is free to post on this subject, and any other, just like you > and that other ignoramus, J.Simmons. >

Damn, I've been looking for the reasons behind my outbursts and rantings. I wonder if I can have an ignoramus gland surgically removed.... Abusive? I think I've been rather subdued in my approach to this. Wo are you again? -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

Bejeezuz wrote: > > The guy is an abusive little bully. I don't respect that. > And I am just someone who is free to post on this subject, and any other, just like you > and that other ignoramus, J.Simmons. Of course you are free to post on this subject, I was just trying to find out who the person behind Mr Whippy is so I could put your posts into some sort of context You cleared it up just fine Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

Ed Solheim wrote: > > You guys done now? Naa, too much fun :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

You guys done now? -- ed_

"Bejeezuz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VVtD8.1071$[email hidden]...

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> > > > > > Do you even know what this discussion concerns? Didn't think so. > > > > > You, sir, are a divot. > > > > You might possibly mean bigot. > > > > > Biz has the right idea. > > > > You're clueless. > > > And you're an obnoxious, arrogant, stereotypical, American.

Beejeezuz, your true colors are on full display. Jealous? You haven't participated in any RASCAR races and you were not there to see the initial discussion so why exactly are you in this thread? Kyle

mrkymark had the same thing going as you..... he left, changed the number, came back and drove one of his first races on n2k without incident..saying a lot for chicago ;-) so, i guess it would be just a matter of perspective on what fun was being sucked and where or something. if you had followed any of the rascar posts, you would have seen this issue addressed many times. rob Always walk around with a big smile on your face and keep one hand down your pants. --Grandpa Erwin "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XfjD8.14622$[email hidden]... > Congratulations, the RASCAR police have managed to suck the fun out ofwhat was supposed to be a > casual fun low pressure get together. Unless you were going to letsomeone else have 65, then it > would have never been an issue. But since its your group do what youwant, as I said, I'm not going > to put up with it. Nearly half the cars don't have near proper numberingon them to be recognizable > on the track anyway. I don't read this forum that often, and I don'tappreciate the post about you > thinking you're being ignored. Good Luck with it, but you guys reallyneed to chill.

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> -- > Biz > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and > the....." - Ash > > > John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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> > What's the deal? YThe spotter gives the wrong car number when referring > > to your car (according to your paint scheme). > > > > Either change the car number in the car file, or change your paintscheme > > to match the car file. > > > > I shouldn't have to tell you why this is important. > > > > I think quitting was the wrong way to handle it. > > > > > > > > -- > > ========================================================= > > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > > RASCAR Roster > > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar > > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > > Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) > > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > > ========================================================= > > >

Indeed he did.. and I'm sorry for putting doubt to his driving in the chatroom before the race.... Was just that LPI that scared me.. :-) Anyway, I'll eat my own words... Good race mrkykrk! -- ed_ "reverend rob" said: > mrkymark had the same thing going as you..... he left, changed the number, > came back and drove one of his first races on n2k without incident..saying a > lot for chicago ;-) >