Xbox: Motor Guaham

hi I am not a fan of microsoft but just came back from a store that had a demo ,,,,it was G R E A T !!! a good rival to GT3 / PS2 better graphics good handling etc I did not think much of console games before this of course console do not hold a candle to PC games but it is not a either or situation I think it would be a nice family game

did u miss spell or is that the real name? any links to website?

> did u miss spell or is that the real name? > any links to website? You might be thinking of Project Gotham Racing: http://www.microsoft.com/games/projectgotham/

"John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > of course console do not hold a candle to > PC games but it is not an either or situation I beg to differ. First-Person Shooters should remain on the PC - nothing can beat the KB/Mouse combo. I haven't tried plugging a KB/Mouse into my PS2, but then, I don't have any FPS games, so it seems to be a false economy just to see games I already have on PC. Arcade drivers are at home on consoles, because a console is more pick-up-and-play. I personally would love to see a couple of racing simulations on PS2, because the hardware can handle it, and a broadband multiplayer game locked at 60fps would be fantastic. Hopefully the new online racers coming out on PS2 (Grand Turismo Online, Auto Modellista - which by the way, is looking absolutely fantastic!), should convince PS2 developers to push some more simulation based driving games onto the platform. Trust me, when I finish the PC version of my sim, the first thing I am going to do is port to the PS2! By the way, fantastic mastery of the English tongue :-) -- Nick "The overriding purpose of software is to be useful, rather than correct." John Carmack, id Software

> > did u miss spell or is that the real name? > > any links to website? > > You might be thinking of Project Gotham Racing: I have it. Yawn. It's only fun for a couple of minutes. The only thing that it has going for it, the multi player can be fun with 4 people, thats about it.

> Trust me, when I finish the PC version of my sim, the > first thing I am going to do is port to the PS2! What for? PS2's dead isn't it? Xbox is the current generation. -- Damien Smith [email hidden] ICQ: 77028579 F1 2001 rank: -11.512

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>> did u miss spell or is that the real name? >> any links to website? > > You might be thinking of Project Gotham Racing: > > http://www.microsoft.com/games/projectgotham/ > >

The TV advert shows the game "in action". I have to say the car handling looked as camp as a row of tents. I'll stick with GT2, it runs at a nice res on the PC with the emulator :-) cheers John

"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ac4q6o$mhrt4$[email hidden]... > > Trust me, when I finish the PC version of my sim, the > > first thing I am going to do is port to the PS2! > > What for? PS2's dead isn't it? Xbox is the current generation. <copied from other posts somewhere in rec.autos.simulators> Gran Turismo Concept: Tokyo-Geneva Gran Turismo Online Auto Modellista Colin 3 WRC 2 Rally Championship Total Immersion Racing F355 Challenge The Getaway V-Rally 3 Mercedes Benz World Racing TOCA Race Driver Starsky & Hutch F1 2002 Formula One 2002 NASCAR Heat 2002 Pro Rally 2002 Master Rallye Gumball 3000 Stuntman Alpine Racer 3 TD Overdrive The current sales figures are: PS2 +30 million GC +4 million XBOX expects 3.5 - 4 million by the end of June "Looking ahead, Bach [Microsoft's Chief Xbox Officer Robbie Bach] said the company forecasts cumulative shipments to reach between 9 million and 11 million units by June 2003, which will mark 20 months of sales for the console since it first hit the shelves in the U.S. in November 2001. In contrast, the PS2 shipments hit 10.6 million units at the end of March 2001, after 13 months on sale, and totaled 19.6 million after 19 months, the closest figure available from SCEI with which to compare against Microsoft's forecast." -- Nick "The overriding purpose of software is to be useful, rather than correct." John Carmack, id Software

> The TV advert shows the game "in action". I have to say the car handling > looked as camp as a row of tents. > I'll stick with GT2, it runs at a nice res on the PC with the emulator :-) You are very much mistaken. In no way, shape or form does GT2 (or 3) handle better than Project Gotham Racing.

"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ac7jn0$neslb$[email hidden]... > You are very much mistaken. In no way, shape or form does GT2 (or 3)handle > better than Project Gotham Racing. That is just soooo tempting..... You are very much mistaken. In no way, shape or form does Project Gotham Racing handle better than GT2 (or 3). (simple cut and paste - how ironic :-) It depends on your definition of the word *handle*. If you mean realistically, then GT3 urinates all over PGR from a great height, but if you mean just fun to slide around and enjoy yourself, then PGR is probably better for an average console gamer. I wouldn't buy PGR if it was released on PS2 (or even if I had an xbox), but that's just because I personally don't like it at all. -- Nick "The overriding purpose of software is to be useful, rather than correct." John Carmack, id Software

<snip> > > What for? PS2's dead isn't it? Xbox is the current generation. > > <copied from other posts somewhere in rec.autos.simulators> > <snip> > Gran Turismo Online <mega snip> Drool, Grand Turismo Online, more drool. I'm not going to get caught up in the PS2 vs Xbox fight, I have both. All I will say, if a game comes out on both PS2 and Xbox (seeing how I have both), I would probably buy it on the xbox, rather than for my PS2.

something like that can you blame me if they did not come up with a catchy name ??? "jlohman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8BfF8.96190$[email hidden]... > > > did u miss spell or is that the real name? > > > any links to website? > > > > You might be thinking of Project Gotham Racing: > > I have it. Yawn. It's only fun for a couple ofminutes. The only thing that > it has going for it, the multi player can be fun with4 people, thats about > it. > >

I tired both I MUST SAY I hate microsoft but I can't say that GT2 beats this Guaham or whatever it is very close but I hate to "buy" cars in a console game I just want to get in and go like the GT2 "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ac7jn0$neslb$[email hidden]... > > The TV advert shows the game "in action". I have tosay the car handling > > looked as camp as a row of tents. > > I'll stick with GT2, it runs at a nice res on thePC with the emulator :-) > > You are very much mistaken. In no way, shape or formdoes GT2 (or 3) handle > better than Project Gotham Racing. > >

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> hey > > you are the man I am looking for > Since you have both sets, JUST ON GRAPHICS ALONE > which is a better machine ? > > do you use TV screen ? and what size ? > > someone told me to get a monitor hook up > with the console to get better graphics > but I am not sure what he is talking about.. > do you ? > > > thanks >

what he means by hooking up a monitor is using a computer display. The monitor you use with a computer often has a much higher resolution than what a TV will produce. However, it can also be very prone to burn-in..where the image on the screen can be ghosted on permantly..and you would have to figure out how to get the console to use a cable that worked with the monitor. dave henrie

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> I tired both > I MUST SAY I hate microsoft > but I can't say that GT2 beats this Guaham or whatever > > it is very close > but I hate to "buy" cars in a console game > I just want to get in and go > like the GT2 >

Collecting the cars is half the fun in GT2, and playing with the tuning options, seeing how weak a car you can beat the opposition in, etc. To be honest once you've racked up a few easy million Cr in GT2, you can buy whatever you want. Kitting them out with upgrades can be a chore, though. cheers John

> you are the man I am looking for > Since you have both sets, JUST ON GRAPHICS ALONE > which is a better machine ? On graphics alone the Xbox is better. I have my Xbox running into my TV with standard RCA, and my PS2 has s-video, and the Xbox is still better.

hi what size is your TV ? "jlohman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:m8bG8.97231$[email hidden]...

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> > > you are the man I am looking for > > Since you have both sets, JUST ON GRAPHICS ALONE > > which is a better machine ? > > > On graphics alone the Xbox is better. I have my Xbox

running into my TV with > standard RCA, and my PS2 has s-video, and the Xbox isstill better. > >

hi Dave then why do people with PC wants a TV out for their graphic cards ? this is one thing that really puzzles me.... "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4U6G8.45052$L76.48295@rwcrnsc53...

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> > "John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > hey > > > > you are the man I am looking for > > Since you have both sets, JUST ON GRAPHICS ALONE > > which is a better machine ? > > > > do you use TV screen ? and what size ? > > > > someone told me to get a monitor hook up > > with the console to get better graphics > > but I am not sure what he is talking about.. > > do you ? > > > > > > thanks > > > what he means by hooking up a monitor is using a

computer display. The > monitor you use with a computer often has a muchhigher resolution than what > a TV will produce. However, it can also be veryprone to burn-in..where the > image on the screen can be ghosted on permantly..andyou would have to > figure out how to get the console to use a cable thatworked with the > monitor. > dave henrie > >

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> hi Dave > > then why do people with PC wants > a TV out for their graphic cards ? > > this is one thing that really puzzles me.... >

The sheer size difference I would suppose....a 27 inch TV costs a whole lot less than a even a 21 inch monitor...and some of these crazies here, (not pointing fingers to ANYONE specific) have those 40 or 50 inch monstervision tv's. They like to feel gpl in widescreen hugeness. dave henrie

"John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > hi > what size is your TV ? I'm not really sure it makes a difference, because I'm running them both on the same TV, but it's a 27".

also some uses PROJECTORS !!! I kid you not but what about resolutions ? weren't these the same guys who crybaby about 800 x 600? =============================================== "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EwjG8.30982$[email hidden]...

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> > "John Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > hi Dave > > > > then why do people with PC wants > > a TV out for their graphic cards ? > > > > this is one thing that really puzzles me.... > > > The sheer size difference I would suppose....a 27

inch TV costs a whole > lot less than a even a 21 inch monitor...and some ofthese crazies here, > (not pointing fingers to ANYONE specific) have those40 or 50 inch > monstervision tv's. They like to feel gpl inwidescreen hugeness. > dave henrie > >