RASCAR: Why more yellow than green?

Any ideas to fix? Warp? Patience? Experience?

"Mitch Alatorre" wrote... > Any ideas to fix? Warp? Patience? Experience? Good questions... let's analyse the races, post recaps and find out. Subjectively, I'm not convinced it's anything to do with the format of the race (race lenght, double file restarts and such) as was suggested earlier. I get the impression people are basically underestimating what it takes to make a pass against an uncooperative opponent stick, but, I could just imagining that. I suggest to get a few people (on broadband access) together, split up the replays and discuss. Jan. =---

Sounds like I good idea to me Jan... I'm on DSL myself and would love to help out... I just reviewed the race a few hours ago... and got a few ideas/thoughts... -- ed_ "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding news:[email hidden]... > "Mitch Alatorre" wrote... > > Any ideas to fix? Warp? Patience? Experience? > > Good questions... let's analyse the races, post recaps and find out. > > Subjectively, I'm not convinced it's anything to do with the format of the > race (race lenght, double file restarts and such) as was suggested earlier. > I get the impression people are basically underestimating what it takes to > make a pass against an uncooperative opponent stick, but, I could just > imagining that. > > I suggest to get a few people (on broadband access) together, split up the > replays and discuss. > > Jan. > =--- > > >

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > "Mitch Alatorre" wrote... > > Any ideas to fix? Warp? Patience? Experience? > > Good questions... let's analyse the races, post recaps and find out. > Here are the primary problems (as I see it): 1) Very few people practice at all, and of those that do, some practice with something other than the <fast> setup. 2) It's rare that anyone can agree whether or not the <fast> setups are any good. This isn't the point. The point is that everyone is using the same setup, and some people are better at adapting and getting the most out of these setups (Mike Grandy) than others (the rest of us). In a vane attempt at keeping up with the aliens, some folks tend to push too hard and lose control. 3) With varying connection quality from one driver to the next, it's difficult to race side by side unless someone is willing to back off entering/proceeding through a turn. 4) The damage model is not very accurate. Cars that are significantly damaged can pretty much keep up with the rest of the field. 5) I think we have a lot of new NR2K2 users that simply aren't used to that style of driving (within bumping duistance of the guy ahead of/behind them). 6) People that haven't practiced until the race day practice session should simply concentrate on controlling their car until they get a grip on how the setup works, and try to stay out of dicey competitive situations on the track. Actually, I would be happy if they just plain didn't race if they didn't practice. As you can see, I'm keying in on the "practice" angle. Practice in offline races against the AI so you can determine how the setup works when you're in traffic. And don't use the rascar cars as your AI - use the ones that came with the sim. Lastly, set the AI percentage down to something that you can keep up with. It doesn't do you any good to race offline if the pack can easily out-pace you. Also, try qualifying at different spots on the grid so you're used to the double-file restarts. -- ========================================================= DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

In article <FhiK8.15778$[email hidden]>, "Mitch Alatorre" <[email hidden]> writes: >Any ideas to fix? Warp? Patience? Experience? I think only one of those incidents was caused by warp. The others? Don't know. I saw a couple of backmarkers get together, but I'm not sure what caused it. All the rest, the cars were already spinning when I got there. Oh, I forgot - David had a screen freeze near the end of the race. His resulting spin was right in front of Jan, who t-boned him. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett A friend of mine is involved in a fund-raiser walk-a-thon for research to cure breast cancer. If you can, please go to my homepage and see how to make a donation. Thank you. Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Mitch Alatorre <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FhiK8.15778$[email hidden]... > Any ideas to fix? Warp? Patience? Experience? >IMHO, lack of patience has caused most of the problems *I* have been involved in (Not counting Dave's Screen Freeze Problem <grin>). Other times, it seemed to be inexperience w/ the mirror in N2002(objects ARE closer than they appear) & the fact that you really can't run door handle to door handle in Multiplayer, 'cause you will get bitten sooner or later. And, of course, my own mistakes. The following is from memory, and only represents what *I* saw: At Atlanta, a car I was overtaking came down on me in the 1st dogleg that apparently thought was far enough ahead to clear me... he wasn't. (I probably should have backed off, hindsight is 20/20... I apologised) At Cali, I spun in turn 3 all by myself, twice. My fault, obviously. (won that one...go figure) At Richmond, I was hit from behind in turn 1 on the 1st lap. (got an apology) At Indy, on 2 separate occasions, 2 different cars dove inside way too hot going into turn 1, & put me in the wall. (I had slowed early & stayed high, but apparently not early or high enough... got 1 apology) At Chicagoland, was hit from behind (warp, I think?), & damaged rear end enough to lose downforce, which led to my spinning by myself just a few laps later after pitting for repairs (didn't know 'til then that the sim would model that... how 'BOUT that damage model?). This is all I can remember now, I'm sure there are more, & also different interpretations of these incidents. Please take all this w/ a grain of salt Brian

Yes, you seem to have been right behind me for a couple of my screen freezes lately. :-) Sorry about that. At least you came away unscathed yesterday. I think I'm going to have to turn the spotter voice off and just use text messages. As to why we are having too many yellows, I can only guess it's from lack of practice and being too aggressive. Being aggressive early on in the race is completely unecessary. We really can relax for the first 2/3 of the race. I've brought out a few yellows with my screen freezes. Besides those I've only caused about three others and I've been in every RASCAR race we've had, so I feel pretty good about my driving so far. David G Fisher "B.Farmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:h1rK8.551$[email hidden]...

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> Mitch Alatorre <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:FhiK8.15778$[email hidden]... > > Any ideas to fix? Warp? Patience? Experience? > > > IMHO, lack of patience has caused most of the problems *I* have been > involved in (Not counting Dave's Screen Freeze Problem <grin>). Other > times, it seemed to be inexperience w/ the mirror in N2002(objects ARE > closer than they appear) & the fact that you really can't run door handle

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> door handle in Multiplayer, 'cause you will get bitten sooner or later. > And, of course, my own mistakes. The following is from memory, and only > represents what *I* saw: > > At Atlanta, a car I was overtaking came down on me in the 1st dogleg that > apparently thought was far enough ahead to clear me... he wasn't. (I > probably should have backed off, hindsight is 20/20... I apologised) > > At Cali, I spun in turn 3 all by myself, twice. My fault, obviously. (won > that one...go figure) > > At Richmond, I was hit from behind in turn 1 on the 1st lap. (got an > apology) > > At Indy, on 2 separate occasions, 2 different cars dove inside way too hot > going into turn 1, & put me in the wall. (I had slowed early & stayed

high, > but apparently not early or high enough... got 1 apology) > > At Chicagoland, was hit from behind (warp, I think?), & damaged rear end > enough to lose downforce, which led to my spinning by myself just a fewlaps > later after pitting for repairs (didn't know 'til then that the sim would > model that... how 'BOUT that damage model?). > > This is all I can remember now, I'm sure there are more, & also different > interpretations of these incidents. Please take all this w/ a grain ofsalt > > Brian > >

"Mitch Alatorre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<FhiK8.15778$[email hidden]>... > Any ideas to fix? Warp? Patience? Experience? I usually have pretty shaky connections to non-papy servers, and I only saw 1 situation while I was racing yesterday where another car was even a little twitchy from warp (when I drove over Jan in practice). The biggest things that I saw, which imho are all indicative of a lack of experience: 1. not holding a line, especially after messing up a corner entry or exit 2. overdriving 1 coupled with 2 = lots of accidents. 2 will result in some self-spins, of course, but what I see happening more is someone overdriving, missing their exit, drifting down into the groove where another car is, and pow. Or someone hitting the entry ok, then overdriving and missing their exit, sliding/fishtailing or slapping the wall, and swerving down the straight while trying to gather up the car. The car(s) behind have nowhere to go, and either hit the car that's out of control or each other while going into panic mode. The key to a long race is to drive within your means. Stay on the lead lap, don't make passes unless the car in front is significantly slower, and try and gain positions/speed with pit strategy. Practice long enough under the same conditions beforehand that you know how hard you can push while having 100% control of the car at all times while driving both normal and compromised lines (i.e. staying low/high). There is really no excuse for being out of control. Sometimes it happens, but sometimes != more than once a race, and certainly not every race. Jason

Dover is a tough track for most racers. It was a HELL of a lot better than any open Dover race I've been in. -Larry "Mitch Alatorre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FhiK8.15778$[email hidden]... > Any ideas to fix? Warp? Patience? Experience? > >

This is exactly how I handled Dover... I'm decent there, but no expert. For the first 80% of the race, I just drove my own comfortable race and stayed on the lead lap. I also pitted at most yellows for fresh tires. Might as well, as I was near the tail of the lead lap most of the time. With about 20% of the race left, I started to step it up. By that time, I had like 125 laps under my belt, and was a lot more comfortable with the fixed setup in real life traffic. In the end, I came in 3rd (beating 4th by an amazing .002) :) The only thing about the setup I had a hard time getting used to was the 2nd gear ratio. My Dover setup is specially geared (2nd) to prevent spinning the tires on restarts (it's somewhere between a normal 2nd and 3rd). The only real boner I pulled was about 1/2 way through the race when I spun the tires (and the car) on a restart. I fixed that by just starting off in 3rd for the rest of the race. Not exactly perfect, but it was good enough and kept me out of trouble. I got hit with 4 incidents during the race, and not a single one of them came during green flags. Yellows were a bit brutal :) I thought it was fun! -Larry (LTB-Racer) "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qYtK8.96901$[email hidden]... > Yes, you seem to have been right behind me for a couple of my screenfreezes > lately. :-) Sorry about that. At least you came away unscathed yesterday.I > think I'm going to have to turn the spotter voice off and just use text > messages. > > As to why we are having too many yellows, I can only guess it's from lackof > practice and being too aggressive. Being aggressive early on in the raceis > completely unecessary. We really can relax for the first 2/3 of the race. > > I've brought out a few yellows with my screen freezes. Besides those I've > only caused about three others and I've been in every RASCAR race we'vehad,

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> so I feel pretty good about my driving so far. > > David G Fisher > > > "B.Farmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:h1rK8.551$[email hidden]... > > Mitch Alatorre <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:FhiK8.15778$[email hidden]... > > > Any ideas to fix? Warp? Patience? Experience? > > > > > IMHO, lack of patience has caused most of the problems *I* have been > > involved in (Not counting Dave's Screen Freeze Problem <grin>). Other > > times, it seemed to be inexperience w/ the mirror in N2002(objects ARE > > closer than they appear) & the fact that you really can't run door

handle > to > > door handle in Multiplayer, 'cause you will get bitten sooner or later. > > And, of course, my own mistakes. The following is from memory, andonly > > represents what *I* saw: > > > > At Atlanta, a car I was overtaking came down on me in the 1st doglegthat > > apparently thought was far enough ahead to clear me... he wasn't. (I > > probably should have backed off, hindsight is 20/20... I apologised) > > > > At Cali, I spun in turn 3 all by myself, twice. My fault, obviously.(won > > that one...go figure) > > > > At Richmond, I was hit from behind in turn 1 on the 1st lap. (got an > > apology) > > > > At Indy, on 2 separate occasions, 2 different cars dove inside way toohot

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> > going into turn 1, & put me in the wall. (I had slowed early & stayed > high, > > but apparently not early or high enough... got 1 apology) > > > > At Chicagoland, was hit from behind (warp, I think?), & damaged rear end > > enough to lose downforce, which led to my spinning by myself just a few > laps > > later after pitting for repairs (didn't know 'til then that the sim

would > > model that... how 'BOUT that damage model?). > > > > This is all I can remember now, I'm sure there are more, & alsodifferent

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> > interpretations of these incidents. Please take all this w/ a grain of > salt > > > > Brian > > > > > >

"Larry" said: > In the end, I came in 3rd (beating 4th by an amazing .002) :) You did very very good Larry.... I only wish my tires would allowed me to step on the throttle 3/1000th of a second earlier and the last podium spot would have been mine :-) I must admit I "goofed up" my strategy at the end there.... I should have pitted with 25 or so to go instead of staying out.... would have help me much in the end. On the final restart I tried my best to keep the all of you behind me... but it my tires were shot. Ginger passed me for the lead with 2 to go and then you and "zugzug" got me on the last lap.... Sooooo close :-) I actually practiced a bit before this race.... as this was my first visit to Dover in N2002.. I completed a 40% race against the AI's and got my ass whipped at 97% :-) I finished 4 laps down after some "berserking" at the end.... Jeff Gordon did not finish it :-) Having said all that, I too think that lack of patience and "courtesy" is the reason we get so many yellows. By "courtesy" I mean that we need to be more "polite" and give each other more playing- room... As in when you see a guy behind you that's clearly faster than you be polite and give him room. Instead of going: - "Oh yeah! think you're gonna pass me low into that corner-eh?? No way pal! I'm gonna block you from here to kingdom come!" - try think more like; - "Oh my! Your so much faster than me... and you going to attempt a pass low here -eh? Oh well, I might aswell give you some room to play in then!" Another thing that I think is very important is that people listen to their spotter.... as well as "tune" him correctly.. (in the options it should be set to "most active") Other things I think can have an effect is that the drivers need to realize that if you cant keep up the pace you really can't! In other words if you're not fast enough to fight for it - accept the fact and start to act like it. IE. give faster drivers room and let them pass you. Same goes if you're a lap down and unable to get it back.. give the guys who are fighting for the lead/win some room.) Use the "F2+space" window to see how close others are compared to you. Drivers that appear in RED n the list is more than 1 lap *ahead* of you ("Alert give room") - those who are listed in GREEN are 1 lap or more *behind* you (Ok, safe to pass/let him thru) ****USE YOUR MIRRORS**** And learn to know how they work! It might sound stupid - but it's not.... learn how the cars appear in you mirror... how close they really are or where they really are. I highly recommed that one enable the "interior-reflection" in the mirror (N-key IIRC) as it helps so much to get an idea of where the cars [behind/-side] really are in releation to oneself. And for those who are faster: Be a little more patience... dont try to win on the first lap. After the green flag, allow your tires to heat up. Most important of all - dont complete the pass until you know that the guy you're passing realize what you're doing! You cannot just dive inside a guy without any warning - especially not drivers who might be 'off-pace'. Show your intention down the straight and *then* do the move... Another thing that atleast I try to practice is to give other drivers the 'benefit of the doubt'. Meaning that if I think I'm about to be passed or I think that the guy behind me is too fast or have initiated a pass; I give him the benefit of the doubt and start to act like he *has* initiated a pass or that he is "there"... Another thing that I mentioned several times during the race, is that you cannot floor the throttle on the restart when the track is banked. (This goes for flat track too - if you tires are badly worn/cold. Re: Mike at Indy) You have to go on the throttle gently. I tried to practice this at Dover when I was up front.. I allowed the pace car to get ahead and then *slowly* build up some speed before the flag dropped... I had about 80mph by then and could safely accelerate quite quickly from then on. (RPM's was higher/ torque was lower so the traction was better.) I can recall atleast 2 yellows that occured due to over-earger throttle use at Dover. -- ed_

"Larry" said: > In the end, I came in 3rd (beating 4th by an amazing .002) :) You did very very good Larry.... I only wish my tires would allowed me to step on the throttle 3/1000th of a second earlier and the last podium spot would have been mine :-) I must admit I "goofed up" my strategy at the end there.... I should have pitted with 25 or so to go instead of staying out.... would have help me much in the end. On the final restart I tried my best to keep the all of you behind me... but it my tires were shot. Ginger passed me for the lead with 2 to go and then you and "zugzug" got me on the last lap.... Sooooo close :-) I actually practiced a bit before this race.... as this was my first visit to Dover in N2002.. I completed a 40% race against the AI's and got my ass whipped at 97% :-) I finished 4 laps down after some "berserking" at the end.... Jeff Gordon did not finish it :-) Having said all that, I too think that lack of patience and "courtesy" is the reason we get so many yellows. By "courtesy" I mean that we need to be more "polite" and give each other more playing- room... As in when you see a guy behind you that's clearly faster than you be polite and give him room. Instead of going: - "Oh yeah! think you're gonna pass me low into that corner-eh?? No way pal! I'm gonna block you from here to kingdom come!" - try think more like; - "Oh my! Your so much faster than me... and you going to attempt a pass low here -eh? Oh well, I might aswell give you some room to play in then!" Another thing that I think is very important is that people listen to their spotter.... as well as "tune" him correctly.. (in the options it should be set to "most active") Other things I think can have an effect is that the drivers need to realize that if you cant keep up the pace you really can't! In other words if you're not fast enough to fight for it - accept the fact and start to act like it. IE. give faster drivers room and let them pass you. Same goes if you're a lap down and unable to get it back.. give the guys who are fighting for the lead/win some room.) Use the "F2+space" window to see how close others are compared to you. Drivers that appear in RED n the list is more than 1 lap *ahead* of you ("Alert give room") - those who are listed in GREEN are 1 lap or more *behind* you (Ok, safe to pass/let him thru) ****USE YOUR MIRRORS**** And learn to know how they work! It might sound stupid - but it's not.... learn how the cars appear in you mirror... how close they really are or where they really are. I highly recommed that one enable the "interior-reflection" in the mirror (N-key IIRC) as it helps so much to get an idea of where the cars [behind/-side] really are in releation to oneself. And for those who are faster: Be a little more patience... dont try to win on the first lap. After the green flag, allow your tires to heat up. Most important of all - dont complete the pass until you know that the guy you're passing realize what you're doing! You cannot just dive inside a guy without any warning - especially not drivers who might be 'off-pace'. Show your intention down the straight and *then* do the move... Another thing that atleast I try to practice is to give other drivers the 'benefit of the doubt'. Meaning that if I think I'm about to be passed or I think that the guy behind me is too fast or have initiated a pass; I give him the benefit of the doubt and start to act like he *has* initiated a pass or that he is "there"... Another thing that I mentioned several times during the race, is that you cannot floor the throttle on the restart when the track is banked. (This goes for flat track too - if you tires are badly worn/cold. Re: Mike at Indy) You have to go on the throttle gently. I tried to practice this at Dover when I was up front.. I allowed the pace car to get ahead and then *slowly* build up some speed before the flag dropped... I had about 80mph by then and could safely accelerate quite quickly from then on. (RPM's was higher/ torque was lower so the traction was better.) I can recall atleast 2 yellows that occured due to over-earger throttle use at Dover. -- ed_

Hehe... Thanks :) -Larry "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%3LK8.629$[email hidden]...

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> "Larry" said: > > > In the end, I came in 3rd (beating 4th by an amazing .002) :) > > You did very very good Larry.... I only wish my tires would allowed me to > step on the throttle 3/1000th of a second earlier and the last podium spot > would have been mine :-) > > I must admit I "goofed up" my strategy at the end there.... I should have > pitted with 25 or so to go instead of staying out.... would have help me > much in the end. On the final restart I tried my best to keep the all of > you behind me... but it my tires were shot. Ginger passed me for the lead > with 2 to go and then you and "zugzug" got me on the last lap.... Sooooo > close :-) > > I actually practiced a bit before this race.... as this was my first visit > to Dover in N2002.. I completed a 40% race against the AI's and got my ass > whipped at 97% :-) I finished 4 laps down after some "berserking" at the > end.... Jeff Gordon did not finish it :-) > > Having said all that, I too think that lack of patience and "courtesy" is > the reason we get so many yellows. By "courtesy" I mean that we need to

be > more "polite" and give each other more playing- room... As in when yousee > a guy behind you that's clearly faster than you be polite and give himroom. > Instead of going: > - "Oh yeah! think you're gonna pass me low into that corner-eh?? No waypal! > I'm gonna block you from here to kingdom come!" - try think more like; > - "Oh my! Your so much faster than me... and you going to attempt a passlow > here -eh? Oh well, I might aswell give you some room to play in then!" > > Another thing that I think is very important is that people listen totheir > spotter.... as well as "tune" him correctly.. (in the options it shouldbe > set to "most active") > > Other things I think can have an effect is that the drivers need torealize > that if you cant keep up the pace you really can't! In other words if > you're not fast enough to fight for it - accept the fact and start to act > like it. IE. give faster drivers room and let them pass you. Same goesif

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> you're a lap down and unable to get it back.. give the guys who are > fighting for the lead/win some room.) > > Use the "F2+space" window to see how close others are compared to you. > Drivers that appear in RED n the list is more than 1 lap *ahead* of you > ("Alert give room") - those who are listed in GREEN are 1 lap or more > *behind* you (Ok, safe to pass/let him thru) > > ****USE YOUR MIRRORS**** > And learn to know how they work! It might sound stupid - but it's not.... > learn how the cars appear in you mirror... how close they really are or > where they really are. I highly recommed that one enable the > "interior-reflection" in the mirror (N-key IIRC) as it helps so much to

get > an idea of where the cars [behind/-side] really are in releation tooneself.

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> > And for those who are faster: > Be a little more patience... dont try to win on the first lap. After the > green flag, allow your tires to heat up. Most important of all - dont > complete the pass until you know that the guy you're passing realize what > you're doing! You cannot just dive inside a guy without any warning - > especially not drivers who might be 'off-pace'. Show your intention down > the straight and *then* do the move... > > Another thing that atleast I try to practice is to give other drivers the > 'benefit of the doubt'. Meaning that if I think I'm about to be passed or

I > think that the guy behind me is too fast or have initiated a pass; I give > him the benefit of the doubt and start to act like he *has* initiated apass

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> or that he is "there"... > > Another thing that I mentioned several times during the race, is that you > cannot floor the throttle on the restart when the track is banked. (This > goes for flat track too - if you tires are badly worn/cold. Re: Mike at > Indy) You have to go on the throttle gently. > I tried to practice this at Dover when I was up front.. I allowed the

pace > car to get ahead and then *slowly* build up some speed before the flag > dropped... I had about 80mph by then and could safely accelerate quite > quickly from then on. (RPM's was higher/ torque was lower so the traction > was better.) I can recall atleast 2 yellows that occured due toover-earger > throttle use at Dover. > > -- > ed_ >

On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 20:30:35 GMT, Larry <[email hidden]> wrote: > Hehe... Thanks :) > > -Larry > Small request and shameless plug: Would all RASCAR drivers please register with N2002Rank so we can add each other to our buddy lists? I find it very helpful to be able to hop over to gplrank to see how my racing buddies are faring at a specific track. Thanks! uwe http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/n2k2_index.html -- Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Does it matter if one hasn't run all tracks yet? Jan. =--- "Uwe Schuerkamp" wrote... > <snip> > Small request and shameless plug: Would all RASCAR > drivers please register with N2002Rank so we can > add each other to our buddy lists? <snip>

How do you do this ? -Larry "Uwe Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 20:30:35 GMT, Larry <[email hidden]> wrote: > > Hehe... Thanks :) > > > > -Larry > > > > Small request and shameless plug: Would all RASCAR drivers > please register with N2002Rank so we can add each other to our > buddy lists? I find it very helpful to be able to hop over to > gplrank to see how my racing buddies are faring at a specific > track. > > Thanks! > > uwe > > http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/n2k2_index.html > > > -- > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 23:24:21 GMT, Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> wrote: > Does it matter if one hasn't run all tracks yet? > > Jan. No, not having run at all tracks yet will not give you a handicap, but your laptimes will be saved regardless of this. the upload process will also show you the tracks you haven't run on yet, so you might chuck in a couple of laps there to get a handicap with lots of room for improvement ;-) Cheers, uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 02:54:17 GMT, Larry <[email hidden]> wrote: > How do you do this ? > > -Larry > >> http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/n2k2_index.html Hi Larry, point your browser to the above URL, then go to "create a new account" if you don't have one yet for Grand Prix Legends, and enter the required data. Then, you can click on "Upload your lap times", upload your playrecs.ini and you should be all set. Take a look at the FAQ if you have problems or drop us a line. Cheers & thanks, Uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

IMHO, driver error is the usual reason ;-) Achim "Mitch Alatorre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FhiK8.15778$[email hidden]... > Any ideas to fix? Warp? Patience? Experience? > >

Thanks. Sounds embarrasing :) -Larry "Uwe Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 02:54:17 GMT, Larry <[email hidden]> wrote: > > How do you do this ? > > > > -Larry > > > > >> http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/n2k2_index.html > > Hi Larry, > > point your browser to the above URL, then go to "create a new > account" if you don't have one yet for Grand Prix Legends, and > enter the required data. > > Then, you can click on "Upload your lap times", upload your > playrecs.ini and you should be all set. Take a look at the FAQ > if you have problems or drop us a line. > > Cheers & thanks, > > Uwe > > > > -- > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Uwe Schuerkamp <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > Small request and shameless plug: Would all RASCAR drivers > please register with N2002Rank so we can add each other to our > buddy lists? I find it very helpful to be able to hop over to > gplrank to see how my racing buddies are faring at a specific > track. Wow. I have an account for gplrank but I didn't know n2002 rank even existed. Woo hoo. Now just need to get that #1 slot at Pocono. 0.7s to go. Jason

Uwe Schuerkamp <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > Small request and shameless plug: Would all RASCAR drivers > please register with N2002Rank so we can add each other to our > buddy lists? I find it very helpful to be able to hop over to > gplrank to see how my racing buddies are faring at a specific > track. Wow. I have an account for gplrank but I didn't know n2002 rank even existed. Woo hoo. Now just need to get that #1 slot at Pocono. 0.7s to go. Jason

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>> >> Cheers & thanks, >> >> Uwe >> >> >> >> -- >> Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ >> Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) >> PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 >

Hi, if any other slowpokes want to compare laps with me, I've registered as johnmid95 (remind me to choose the new number for the rascar races sometime :) ) cheers John (JohnMid #59 RASCAR)

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I registered too. Most of it seems to be for GPL though. -Larry "JM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in > >> > >> Cheers & thanks, > >> > >> Uwe > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > >> Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > >> PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 > > > > Hi, if any other slowpokes want to compare laps with me, I've registered

as > johnmid95 (remind me to choose the new number for the rascar racessometime > :) ) > > cheers > John (JohnMid #59 RASCAR) >

On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 04:43:43 GMT, Larry <[email hidden]> wrote: > I registered too. > > Most of it seems to be for GPL though. > > -Larry Well, I haven't had the time to customize the add_user script to N2002 yet, so that's why I put comments in there so people would have an idea what to enter if the question is gpl specific. There's more to come at N2002Rank though, it only started a week ago and I've been involved in other matters, but as soon as I find the time again, I'll start adding the bells and whistles that can be found in gplrank. Cheers & enjoy the ranks, Uwe PS: N2002Rank is basically a 1-person-project at the moment, so that might explain some of the delays ;-) -- Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Cool :) -Larry "Uwe Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 04:43:43 GMT, Larry <[email hidden]> wrote: > > I registered too. > > > > Most of it seems to be for GPL though. > > > > -Larry > > Well, I haven't had the time to customize the add_user script to > N2002 yet, so that's why I put comments in there so people > would have an idea what to enter if the question is gpl > specific. > > There's more to come at N2002Rank though, it only started a > week ago and I've been involved in other matters, but as soon > as I find the time again, I'll start adding the bells and > whistles that can be found in gplrank. > > Cheers & enjoy the ranks, > > Uwe > > PS: N2002Rank is basically a 1-person-project at the moment, so > that might explain some of the delays ;-) > > -- > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61