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20 posts by 13 people · 09 Jun 2002 19:05 UTC - 11 Jun 2002 16:32 UTC

Blurry text with an Nvidia graphics card

Dave Henrie asked why text looked blurry with his Nvidia card. Suggestions covered font smoothing, cables and monitor convergence, with several saying Nvidia's 2D quality lagged Matrox and ATI. Dave found he had accidentally shrunk his fonts.

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Dave Henrie 09 Jun 2002 19:05 UTC#115984
I have had the Nvidiot card for several months now, but just recently I've seen blurry text especially on websites with smaller fonts. I have to admit I wasn't paying attention that much, but this seems to be a fairly recent change. (could be going blind...glasses are already thick enuf..) But is there a setting on the nvidia drivers that sharpens the picture? Wanna check the easy stuff first... dave henrie
But is there a setting on the nvidia drivers that sharpens the picture? > Wanna check the easy stuff first... > dave henrie > > You might want to check your Mipmap settings in the Advanced DirectX settings Tab of your Nvidia properties. Set these to a higher quality instead of a higher performance.... It improves the picture and espacially text in DirectX environments. It might improve in other application .... Jimmy
Hm.. you have "smooth edges on fonts" on in Windows? "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HFNM8.139828$352.7117@sccrnsc02... > I have had the Nvidiot card for several months now, but just recently > I've seen blurry text especially on websites with smaller fonts. I haveto
Quoted text (7 lines)> admit I wasn't paying attention that much, but this seems to be a fairly > recent change. (could be going blind...glasses are already thick enuf..) > But is there a setting on the nvidia drivers that sharpens the picture? > Wanna check the easy stuff first... > dave henrie > >
"Jimmy De Plecker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:R9OM8.23847$[email hidden]... > You might want to check your Mipmap settings in the Advanced DirectX > settings Tab of your Nvidia properties. > Set these to a higher quality instead of a higher performance.... It > improves the picture and espacially text in DirectX environments. > It might improve in other application .... That setting only affects 3D graphics and does nothing to 2D.
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HFNM8.139828$352.7117@sccrnsc02... > I have had the Nvidiot card for several months now, but just recently > I've seen blurry text especially on websites with smaller fonts. I haveto > admit I wasn't paying attention that much, but this seems to be a fairly > recent change. (could be going blind...glasses are already thick enuf..) > But is there a setting on the nvidia drivers that sharpens the picture? > Wanna check the easy stuff first... > dave henrie Are you using WinXP? Do you have cleartype fonts on maybe?
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Quoted text (8 lines)> > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:HFNM8.139828$352.7117@sccrnsc02... > > I have had the Nvidiot card for several months now, but just recently > > I've seen blurry text especially on websites with smaller fonts. I have > to > > admit I wasn't paying attention that much, but this seems to be a fairly > > recent change. (could be going blind...glasses are already thick
enuf..) > > But is there a setting on the nvidia drivers that sharpens thepicture? > > Wanna check the easy stuff first... > > dave henrie > > Are you using WinXP? Do you have cleartype fonts on maybe? > Win98se... I did have smooth edges set, but didn't seem too different when I disabled it. dave henrie
Couple of guesses - checked the monitor R/G/B alignment since getting the GeForce? Degaussed it? "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HFNM8.139828$352.7117@sccrnsc02... | I have had the Nvidiot card for several months now, but just recently | I've seen blurry text especially on websites with smaller fonts. I haveto | admit I wasn't paying attention that much, but this seems to be a fairly | recent change. (could be going blind...glasses are already thick enuf..) | But is there a setting on the nvidia drivers that sharpens the picture? | Wanna check the easy stuff first... | dave henrie
Check the connections between the card and the monitor, a bad contact will reduce the frequency response and hence the definition of the display. Craig "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HFNM8.139828$352.7117@sccrnsc02... > I have had the Nvidiot card for several months now, but just recently > I've seen blurry text especially on websites with smaller fonts. I haveto
Quoted text (7 lines)> admit I wasn't paying attention that much, but this seems to be a fairly > recent change. (could be going blind...glasses are already thick enuf..) > But is there a setting on the nvidia drivers that sharpens the picture? > Wanna check the easy stuff first... > dave henrie > >
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss�:HFNM8.139828$352.7117@sccrnsc02... > I have had the Nvidiot card for several months now, but just recently > I've seen blurry text especially on websites with smaller fonts. I haveto > admit I wasn't paying attention that much, but this seems to be a fairly > recent change. (could be going blind...glasses are already thick enuf..) > But is there a setting on the nvidia drivers that sharpens the picture? > Wanna check the easy stuff first... > dave henrie nVidia is famous of very bad 2D picture quality. Matrox is the best. Ati cards are fair enough too... but nVidia just sucks. Too bad, because nVidia is the way to go almost anywhere else but 2d... -- Mika Takala
This is why my next card will be something other than nVidia. That and the poor quality of the TV output as well. I wait impatiently for reviews of the Matrox Parhelia :) -Larry "Mika Takala" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Zu6N8.1403$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti > viestiss�:HFNM8.139828$352.7117@sccrnsc02... > > I have had the Nvidiot card for several months now, but just recently > > I've seen blurry text especially on websites with smaller fonts. I have > to > > admit I wasn't paying attention that much, but this seems to be a fairly > > recent change. (could be going blind...glasses are already thick
enuf..) > > But is there a setting on the nvidia drivers that sharpens thepicture?
Quoted text (12 lines)> > Wanna check the easy stuff first... > > dave henrie > > nVidia is famous of very bad 2D picture quality. Matrox is the best. Ati > cards are fair enough too... but nVidia just sucks. > > Too bad, because nVidia is the way to go almost anywhere else but 2d... > > -- > Mika Takala > >
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HFNM8.139828$352.7117@sccrnsc02... > I have had the Nvidiot card for several months now, but just recently > I've seen blurry text especially on websites with smaller fonts. I haveto
Quoted text (7 lines)> admit I wasn't paying attention that much, but this seems to be a fairly > recent change. (could be going blind...glasses are already thick enuf..) > But is there a setting on the nvidia drivers that sharpens the picture? > Wanna check the easy stuff first... > dave henrie > >
Dave, I guess you wouldn't want to try throwing your old V5 back into the system after the driver dance you had to do to get the nvidia card working? I was just curious what your immediate impressions would be when doing a back to back comparision (under admittedly unscientific conditions) between the 2d of your current Ti200 (iirc) and your old V5. Regards, Robin
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:HFNM8.139828$352.7117@sccrnsc02:
Quoted text (10 lines)> I have had the Nvidiot card for several months now, but just > recently > I've seen blurry text especially on websites with smaller fonts. I > have to admit I wasn't paying attention that much, but this seems to > be a fairly recent change. (could be going blind...glasses are > already thick enuf..) > But is there a setting on the nvidia drivers that sharpens the > picture? > Wanna check the easy stuff first... > dave henrie
I have noticed this also after getting a GF3 card, but only when viewing web pages and only when using Netscape. When I use Internet Explorer for the same web page the text is perfectly clear so I don't think it's an Nvidia issue. It's hopfully just a setting thing but I will continue to use Netscape regardless. If you figure it out please let me know. Don -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. GPLRank -21.72 MonsterRank 16.55
Don Scurlock <[email hidden]> writes: > I have noticed this also after getting a GF3 card, but only when viewing > web pages and only when using Netscape. When I use Internet Explorer for > the same web page the text is perfectly clear and you're sure you aren't seeing antialiasing? Microsoft calls it Font Smoothing, I think. no idea what netscape might call it. -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 DE RECTIS NON TOLERANDUM EST
"Robin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%l7N8.8588$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:HFNM8.139828$352.7117@sccrnsc02... > > I have had the Nvidiot card for several months now, but just recently > > I've seen blurry text especially on websites with smaller fonts. I have > to > > admit I wasn't paying attention that much, but this seems to be a fairly > > recent change. (could be going blind...glasses are already thick
enuf..) > > But is there a setting on the nvidia drivers that sharpens thepicture?
Quoted text (13 lines)> > Wanna check the easy stuff first... > > dave henrie > > > > > > Dave, > I guess you wouldn't want to try throwing your old V5 back into the system > after the driver dance you had to do to get the nvidia card working? I was > just curious what your immediate impressions would be when doing a back to > back comparision (under admittedly unscientific conditions) between the 2d > of your current Ti200 (iirc) and your old V5. > Regards, > Robin
Well I'm pretty happy with the Ti200. For sure it's FSAA is weak compared to the V5, but everywhere else it seems good now...What an incredible hassle I had getting it going right tho... I didn't seem to notice this fuzzy text stuff til recently, maybe I wasn't paying attention, but any tiny font is smudged...like an erasor was lightly rubbed across it...turning off the smooth edges made it worse...like the parts of the letters weren't connected. Been using MS IE 6+ for a long time...Netscape would cause lockups too often. dave henrie > >
Agree!. My old ATI rage fury 128card has SHARP picturequality in 2d. The colors look faboulus.. and with my GF2mx, it looks blurry, and the colors look lifeless. "Mika Takala" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Zu6N8.1403$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)> nVidia is famous of very bad 2D picture quality. Matrox is the best. Ati > cards are fair enough too... but nVidia just sucks. > > Too bad, because nVidia is the way to go almost anywhere else but 2d... > > -- > Mika Takala > >
You forget to clean your glasses again?......j/k <G> -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HFNM8.139828$352.7117@sccrnsc02... > I have had the Nvidiot card for several months now, but just recently > I've seen blurry text especially on websites with smaller fonts. I have to > admit I wasn't paying attention that much, but this seems to be a fairly > recent change. (could be going blind...glasses are already thick enuf..) > But is there a setting on the nvidia drivers that sharpens the picture? > Wanna check the easy stuff first... > dave henrie > >
"Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:tqiN8.35423$[email hidden]... > You forget to clean your glasses again?......j/k <G> > -- > Biz I have had glasses sooooo long, that crap on the lenses doesn't bother me..I'm used to looking Thru junk... But I've decided that I must have accidently shrunk the fonts using the mouse wheel and the ctrl key. So when I reversed the process, I got the fonts big enough to see clearly. Somebody up the thread mentioned that, but I kept spinning the mouse wheel the wrong way...since the fonts were already at their smallest...nothing 'seemed' to happen. If at first you don't suceed.... ;) dave henrie Thanks for all the tips and advice fellas... dh
Quoted text (7 lines)> > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and > the....." - Ash > > > Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:HFNM8.139828$352.7117@sccrnsc02... > > I have had the Nvidiot card for several months now, but just recently > > I've seen blurry text especially on websites with smaller fonts. I haveto > > admit I wasn't paying attention that much, but this seems to be a fairly > > recent change. (could be going blind...glasses are already thickenuf..) > > But is there a setting on the nvidia drivers that sharpens thepicture? > > Wanna check the easy stuff first... > > dave henrie > > > > > >
>but nVidia just sucks. I totally agree with you on that, although these new ATI drivers don't excite me to much. ATI is getting just about as bad as Nvidia with several driver release's in the past 6 months. That is one thing I liked about 3Dfx, they wouldn't release a driver until they got it right, well almost right, :-). -- 1904 - Glenn H. Curtiss American aviation pioneer, makes first official 60mph motorcycle run. Powered by one of the first American made twin cylinder engines.
REDLINE426 11 Jun 2002 13:36 UTC↳ reply to Biz#115527
>You forget to clean your glasses again?......j/k <G> LOL, waiting for that one. -- 1904 - Glenn H. Curtiss American aviation pioneer, makes first official 60mph motorcycle run. Powered by one of the first American made twin cylinder engines.
You might want to chech your Monitors Convergence, if it's adjustable. That can cause fuzzy text too. -Larry "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_MaN8.5300$nZ3.529@rwcrnsc53... > > "Robin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%l7N8.8588$[email hidden]... > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:HFNM8.139828$352.7117@sccrnsc02... > > > I have had the Nvidiot card for several months now, but justrecently > > > I've seen blurry text especially on websites with smaller fonts. Ihave > > to > > > admit I wasn't paying attention that much, but this seems to be afairly
Quoted text (11 lines)> > > recent change. (could be going blind...glasses are already thick > enuf..) > > > But is there a setting on the nvidia drivers that sharpens the > picture? > > > Wanna check the easy stuff first... > > > dave henrie > > > > > > > > > > Dave, > > I guess you wouldn't want to try throwing your old V5 back into the
system > > after the driver dance you had to do to get the nvidia card working? Iwas > > just curious what your immediate impressions would be when doing a backto > > back comparision (under admittedly unscientific conditions) between the2d
Quoted text (8 lines)> > of your current Ti200 (iirc) and your old V5. > > Regards, > > Robin > > Well I'm pretty happy with the Ti200. For sure it's FSAA is weak > compared to the V5, but everywhere else it seems good now...What an > incredible hassle I had getting it going right tho... > I didn't seem to notice this fuzzy text stuff til recently, maybe I
wasn't > paying attention, but any tiny font is smudged...like an erasor waslightly
Quoted text (9 lines)> rubbed across it...turning off the smooth edges made it worse...like the > parts of the letters weren't connected. > Been using MS IE 6+ for a long time...Netscape would cause lockups too > often. > dave henrie > > > > > >

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