Congrats To Zug Zug, the winner of the RASCAR Michigan 80!

Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) -Larry

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7UOO8.27349$[email hidden]... > Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) > > -Larry > Place a bet on that ?<G> John

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7UOO8.27349$[email hidden]... > Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) > > -Larry But yes, congrats Zug ! Fun race guys, thanks. John > >

On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 16:14:17 -0600, "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:7UOO8.27349$[email hidden]... >> Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) >> >> -Larry >> > Place a bet on that ?<G> > >John >

He's right, I really was saving the tires the entire race. I know I got the lead when a lap car got in the mix, but I kept my RF within 8-10 degrees from the RR almost the whole race. I actually practiced long runs off-line for this race and I found that you could run 10-15 fast laps with this setup but then the car pushed so bad lap times really dropped after the RF heated up. By driving in deep drifting up in the middle and then getting on the throttle a little later you could run some very fast laps even with 30 or more laps on the tires. Brian Oster

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> On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 16:14:17 -0600, "John Pancoast" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:7UOO8.27349$[email hidden]... > >> Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) > >> > >> -Larry > >> > > Place a bet on that ?<G> > > > >John > > > > He's right, I really was saving the tires the entire race. I know I > got the lead when a lap car got in the mix, but I kept my RF within > 8-10 degrees from the RR almost the whole race. I actually practiced > long runs off-line for this race and I found that you could run 10-15 > fast laps with this setup but then the car pushed so bad lap times > really dropped after the RF heated up. By driving in deep drifting up > in the middle and then getting on the throttle a little later you > could run some very fast laps even with 30 or more laps on the tires. > > Brian Oster

That's true, but how do you know I wasn't doing the same thing ? <G> John

Thanks Larry, just testing out the theory "drive slower to go faster". Cautions seemed to be a lot better this week. A few at the begining, but a good long run at the end. Everyone I was running with ran very clean. Brian Oster On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 22:06:59 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) > >-Larry >

Because of my freezes, I dropped out early so as not to cause any accidents. It was a great race to watch though. Good driving all around. I kept going back and forth from the contest for 1 and 2, and the 3,4, and 5 battle. Larry, I'd say you've quickly become one of the top drivers in RASCAR. Keep it up. :-) David G Fisher "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7UOO8.27349$[email hidden]... > Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) > > -Larry > >

Thanks, David :) I try! -Larry "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sHRO8.265274$[email hidden]... > Because of my freezes, I dropped out early so as not to cause anyaccidents. > It was a great race to watch though. Good driving all around. I kept going > back and forth from the contest for 1 and 2, and the 3,4, and 5 battle. > > Larry, I'd say you've quickly become one of the top drivers in RASCAR.Keep

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> it up. :-) > > David G Fisher > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:7UOO8.27349$[email hidden]... > > Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) > > > > -Larry > > > > > >

David, I'd like to take a crack at this freeze-up problem. Since I do this for a living, I might be able to catch something that has been missed. I will need some pretty extensive info though, mainly a very thorough report on your system. In fact, it wouldn't hurt to have something like complete system report from Sandra or other system catalogging utility. At a minimum, I'd like to have: 1. System Board Mfr/Model, BIOS Revision and, if you know it, revision number of the board itself. 2. Amount of RAM, and Manufacturer. Include their part number if you have it. 3. Hard Drive manufacturer, size, model and firmware version. 4. Sound Card MFR. 5. NIC Card MFR. 6. Graphics Card MFR, and BIOS rev if you have it. 7. Info on any other cards or internal devices. 8. Make, Model and Firmware revision of any other drives installed. 9. Power Supply Size, MFR and Model Number. 10. Processor, and whether it is a OEM or Retail. 11. Keyboard and Mouse MFR/Model. 12. Any other periperals, printers included, attached. For PCI Cards, what slot they are in, counting AWAY from the AGP Slot. 13. Driver revision numbers for all devices. 14. Operating System and Version. 15. Any system 'modifying' utilities installed, including graphics card modifyers. 16. The AGP Apeture Setting in your BIOS (one of my likely suspects). Internet connection type and any routers, hubs, cable modems, etc... in use. Anything else you can think of that I might have missed. I know this is a lot, but maybe we can reel in this thing eventually. Don't underestimate the ability of the AGP Aperture Setting to completely hose a system. On AMD systems especially, this thing can be tricky to set right, and is usually the last thing you can think of. For example, I've been reporting freezes in the OGL version of NR2002 since the first patch came out. I spent an ENTIRE weekend installing Windows fresh several times, reinstalling NR2002, etc... It was always fine until I applied the first or second patch, and then it would crash NR2002 within a few laps every time in OGL mode. My AGP Aperture setting has been at 128 for pretty much forever. Today, I changed it to 64 and tested. I haven't seen a crash in NR2002 since (though I still run in D3D until someone releases a Refresh Rate fix that really works reliably, like NVRefFix used to). This made possible sense after I discovered it. The original NR2002 did not incorporate Texture Compression. The first and second patches DO. Now, I can't definitely tie that to the AGP Aperture Setting, but if you think about it it's entirely possible that the new routines simply don't work well with an AGP Aperture Setting of 128 on MY computer. I go now :) -Larry "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sHRO8.265274$[email hidden]... > Because of my freezes, I dropped out early so as not to cause anyaccidents. > It was a great race to watch though. Good driving all around. I kept going > back and forth from the contest for 1 and 2, and the 3,4, and 5 battle. > > Larry, I'd say you've quickly become one of the top drivers in RASCAR.Keep

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> it up. :-) > > David G Fisher > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:7UOO8.27349$[email hidden]... > > Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) > > > > -Larry > > > > > >

To clarify, the original version of NR2002 did not incorporate Texture Compression for OpenGL. It had it from the start for D3D. OpenGL Texture Compression was added to NR2002 starting with the first patch. -Larry "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Q1SO8.28558$[email hidden]... > David, > > I'd like to take a crack at this freeze-up problem. Since I do this for a > living, I might be able to catch something that has been missed. > > I will need some pretty extensive info though, mainly a very thoroughreport > on your system. In fact, it wouldn't hurt to have something likecomplete

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> system report from Sandra or other system catalogging utility. > > At a minimum, I'd like to have: > > 1. System Board Mfr/Model, BIOS Revision and, if you know it, revision > number of the board itself. > 2. Amount of RAM, and Manufacturer. Include their part number if you

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> it. > 3. Hard Drive manufacturer, size, model and firmware version. > 4. Sound Card MFR. > 5. NIC Card MFR. > 6. Graphics Card MFR, and BIOS rev if you have it. > 7. Info on any other cards or internal devices. > 8. Make, Model and Firmware revision of any other drives installed. > 9. Power Supply Size, MFR and Model Number. > 10. Processor, and whether it is a OEM or Retail. > 11. Keyboard and Mouse MFR/Model. > 12. Any other periperals, printers included, attached. > > For PCI Cards, what slot they are in, counting AWAY from the AGP Slot. > > 13. Driver revision numbers for all devices. > 14. Operating System and Version. > 15. Any system 'modifying' utilities installed, including graphics card > modifyers. > 16. The AGP Apeture Setting in your BIOS (one of my likely suspects). > > Internet connection type and any routers, hubs, cable modems, etc... in

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> > Anything else you can think of that I might have missed. > > I know this is a lot, but maybe we can reel in this thing eventually. > > Don't underestimate the ability of the AGP Aperture Setting to completely > hose a system. On AMD systems especially, this thing can be tricky to set > right, and is usually the last thing you can think of. > > For example, I've been reporting freezes in the OGL version of NR2002

since > the first patch came out. I spent an ENTIRE weekend installing Windows > fresh several times, reinstalling NR2002, etc... It was always fine untilI

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> applied the first or second patch, and then it would crash NR2002 within a > few laps every time in OGL mode. > > My AGP Aperture setting has been at 128 for pretty much forever. Today, I > changed it to 64 and tested. I haven't seen a crash in NR2002 since > (though I still run in D3D until someone releases a Refresh Rate fix that > really works reliably, like NVRefFix used to). > > This made possible sense after I discovered it. The original NR2002 did

not > incorporate Texture Compression. The first and second patches DO. Now, I > can't definitely tie that to the AGP Aperture Setting, but if you think > about it it's entirely possible that the new routines simply don't workwell

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> with an AGP Aperture Setting of 128 on MY computer. > > I go now :) > > -Larry > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:sHRO8.265274$[email hidden]... > > Because of my freezes, I dropped out early so as not to cause any > accidents. > > It was a great race to watch though. Good driving all around. I kept

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> > back and forth from the contest for 1 and 2, and the 3,4, and 5 battle. > > > > Larry, I'd say you've quickly become one of the top drivers in RASCAR. > Keep > > it up. :-) > > > > David G Fisher > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:7UOO8.27349$[email hidden]... > > > Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks for the offer Larry. I think I've narrowed down the cause of the screen freezes a bit. After I quit the race Saturday, I watched it live on the replay screen and noticed that I had a couple of freezes even then. About 3 seconds in length, just like when I'm racing. I've done a few offline races since, in addition to the one I did for practice on Friday night and have had no freezes. It looks like this may be related to my internet connection. What's very strange is that I DEFINITELY used to get freezes offline against the AI as well. Strange, huh? Any ideas now as to what could be causing the 3 second freezes? As I've said before, the screen freezes, but the action continues. The car keeps moving, and I hear live sound. I no longer think it has anything to do with drivers (tried many both in openGL and D3D), my sound card, ram or streaming sound. If you still think you need the info below, I'll try and get as much of it as possible. I have a cable modem (3Com U.S. Robotics Cable Modem CMX). My download speed is blazing fast. My pings are always excellent, and my connection quality is usually at 100 to most servers, including Eldred's. BTW, the freezes happen no matter what server I join. No one ever complains that my car is disappearing during a race either. All background programs are shut down when racing online. OS is XP home. These freezes don't happen with any other game online. Dave "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Q1SO8.28558$[email hidden]... > David, > > I'd like to take a crack at this freeze-up problem. Since I do this for a > living, I might be able to catch something that has been missed. > > I will need some pretty extensive info though, mainly a very thoroughreport > on your system. In fact, it wouldn't hurt to have something likecomplete

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> system report from Sandra or other system catalogging utility. > > At a minimum, I'd like to have: > > 1. System Board Mfr/Model, BIOS Revision and, if you know it, revision > number of the board itself. > 2. Amount of RAM, and Manufacturer. Include their part number if you

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> it. > 3. Hard Drive manufacturer, size, model and firmware version. > 4. Sound Card MFR. > 5. NIC Card MFR. > 6. Graphics Card MFR, and BIOS rev if you have it. > 7. Info on any other cards or internal devices. > 8. Make, Model and Firmware revision of any other drives installed. > 9. Power Supply Size, MFR and Model Number. > 10. Processor, and whether it is a OEM or Retail. > 11. Keyboard and Mouse MFR/Model. > 12. Any other periperals, printers included, attached. > > For PCI Cards, what slot they are in, counting AWAY from the AGP Slot. > > 13. Driver revision numbers for all devices. > 14. Operating System and Version. > 15. Any system 'modifying' utilities installed, including graphics card > modifyers. > 16. The AGP Apeture Setting in your BIOS (one of my likely suspects). > > Internet connection type and any routers, hubs, cable modems, etc... in

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> > Anything else you can think of that I might have missed. > > I know this is a lot, but maybe we can reel in this thing eventually. > > Don't underestimate the ability of the AGP Aperture Setting to completely > hose a system. On AMD systems especially, this thing can be tricky to set > right, and is usually the last thing you can think of. > > For example, I've been reporting freezes in the OGL version of NR2002

since > the first patch came out. I spent an ENTIRE weekend installing Windows > fresh several times, reinstalling NR2002, etc... It was always fine untilI

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> applied the first or second patch, and then it would crash NR2002 within a > few laps every time in OGL mode. > > My AGP Aperture setting has been at 128 for pretty much forever. Today, I > changed it to 64 and tested. I haven't seen a crash in NR2002 since > (though I still run in D3D until someone releases a Refresh Rate fix that > really works reliably, like NVRefFix used to). > > This made possible sense after I discovered it. The original NR2002 did

not > incorporate Texture Compression. The first and second patches DO. Now, I > can't definitely tie that to the AGP Aperture Setting, but if you think > about it it's entirely possible that the new routines simply don't workwell

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> with an AGP Aperture Setting of 128 on MY computer. > > I go now :) > > -Larry > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:sHRO8.265274$[email hidden]... > > Because of my freezes, I dropped out early so as not to cause any > accidents. > > It was a great race to watch though. Good driving all around. I kept

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> > back and forth from the contest for 1 and 2, and the 3,4, and 5 battle. > > > > Larry, I'd say you've quickly become one of the top drivers in RASCAR. > Keep > > it up. :-) > > > > David G Fisher > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:7UOO8.27349$[email hidden]... > > > Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > > > > >

Well, at this point you're going to need to do some extensive ping plots to determine if you have an Internet Connection problem as you suspect. It may be that your Cable Company has a router that gets clogged up from time to time, resulting in periods of seriously increased latency, or even stopped thru-put. You would likely never notice this web browsing. I wish you luck. Cable Companies generally suck when you're trying to get something like this resolved :( -Larry "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:TmrP8.262985$%[email hidden]...

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> Thanks for the offer Larry. > > I think I've narrowed down the cause of the screen freezes a bit. After I > quit the race Saturday, I watched it live on the replay screen and noticed > that I had a couple of freezes even then. About 3 seconds in length, just > like when I'm racing. I've done a few offline races since, in addition to > the one I did for practice on Friday night and have had no freezes. It

looks > like this may be related to my internet connection. What's very strange is > that I DEFINITELY used to get freezes offline against the AI as well. > > Strange, huh? Any ideas now as to what could be causing the 3 second > freezes? As I've said before, the screen freezes, but the actioncontinues.

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> The car keeps moving, and I hear live sound. I no longer think it has > anything to do with drivers (tried many both in openGL and D3D), my sound > card, ram or streaming sound. > > If you still think you need the info below, I'll try and get as much of it > as possible. > > I have a cable modem (3Com U.S. Robotics Cable Modem CMX). My download

speed > is blazing fast. My pings are always excellent, and my connection qualityis > usually at 100 to most servers, including Eldred's. BTW, the freezeshappen

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> no matter what server I join. No one ever complains that my car is > disappearing during a race either. > > All background programs are shut down when racing online. OS is XP home. > > These freezes don't happen with any other game online. > > Dave > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Q1SO8.28558$[email hidden]... > > David, > > > > I'd like to take a crack at this freeze-up problem. Since I do this for

a

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> > living, I might be able to catch something that has been missed. > > > > I will need some pretty extensive info though, mainly a very thorough > report > > on your system. In fact, it wouldn't hurt to have something like > complete > > system report from Sandra or other system catalogging utility. > > > > At a minimum, I'd like to have: > > > > 1. System Board Mfr/Model, BIOS Revision and, if you know it, revision > > number of the board itself. > > 2. Amount of RAM, and Manufacturer. Include their part number if you > have > > it. > > 3. Hard Drive manufacturer, size, model and firmware version. > > 4. Sound Card MFR. > > 5. NIC Card MFR. > > 6. Graphics Card MFR, and BIOS rev if you have it. > > 7. Info on any other cards or internal devices. > > 8. Make, Model and Firmware revision of any other drives installed. > > 9. Power Supply Size, MFR and Model Number. > > 10. Processor, and whether it is a OEM or Retail. > > 11. Keyboard and Mouse MFR/Model. > > 12. Any other periperals, printers included, attached. > > > > For PCI Cards, what slot they are in, counting AWAY from the AGP Slot. > > > > 13. Driver revision numbers for all devices. > > 14. Operating System and Version. > > 15. Any system 'modifying' utilities installed, including graphics card > > modifyers. > > 16. The AGP Apeture Setting in your BIOS (one of my likely suspects). > > > > Internet connection type and any routers, hubs, cable modems, etc... in > use. > > > > Anything else you can think of that I might have missed. > > > > I know this is a lot, but maybe we can reel in this thing eventually. > > > > Don't underestimate the ability of the AGP Aperture Setting to

completely > > hose a system. On AMD systems especially, this thing can be tricky toset > > right, and is usually the last thing you can think of. > > > > For example, I've been reporting freezes in the OGL version of NR2002 > since > > the first patch came out. I spent an ENTIRE weekend installing Windows > > fresh several times, reinstalling NR2002, etc... It was always fineuntil > I > > applied the first or second patch, and then it would crash NR2002 withina > > few laps every time in OGL mode. > > > > My AGP Aperture setting has been at 128 for pretty much forever. Today,I > > changed it to 64 and tested. I haven't seen a crash in NR2002 since > > (though I still run in D3D until someone releases a Refresh Rate fixthat > > really works reliably, like NVRefFix used to). > > > > This made possible sense after I discovered it. The original NR2002 did > not > > incorporate Texture Compression. The first and second patches DO. Now,I

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> > can't definitely tie that to the AGP Aperture Setting, but if you think > > about it it's entirely possible that the new routines simply don't work > well > > with an AGP Aperture Setting of 128 on MY computer. > > > > I go now :) > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:sHRO8.265274$[email hidden]... > > > Because of my freezes, I dropped out early so as not to cause any > > accidents. > > > It was a great race to watch though. Good driving all around. I kept > going > > > back and forth from the contest for 1 and 2, and the 3,4, and 5

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> > > > > > Larry, I'd say you've quickly become one of the top drivers in RASCAR. > > Keep > > > it up. :-) > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:7UOO8.27349$[email hidden]... > > > > Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) > > > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

What is the N2002 task watchdog? Never heard of it. David G Fisher "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aelhck$7rceb$[email hidden]... > You might want to make sure the N2002 task watchdog is disabled. Under XP,I > wouldn't count out resource probs like IRQ or PCI bus contention either.And

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> of course, when you say no background progs are running, under XP that > doesn't mean a lot. There's a lot of services running you probably aren't > even aware of. Even 'calling home' stuff. Have you checked into that > diligently? > > Achim > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:TmrP8.262985$%[email hidden]... > > Thanks for the offer Larry. > > > > I think I've narrowed down the cause of the screen freezes a bit. After

I > > quit the race Saturday, I watched it live on the replay screen andnoticed > > that I had a couple of freezes even then. About 3 seconds in length,just > > like when I'm racing. I've done a few offline races since, in additionto > > the one I did for practice on Friday night and have had no freezes. It > looks > > like this may be related to my internet connection. What's very strangeis

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> > that I DEFINITELY used to get freezes offline against the AI as well. > > > > Strange, huh? Any ideas now as to what could be causing the 3 second > > freezes? As I've said before, the screen freezes, but the action > continues. > > The car keeps moving, and I hear live sound. I no longer think it has > > anything to do with drivers (tried many both in openGL and D3D), my

sound > > card, ram or streaming sound. > > > > If you still think you need the info below, I'll try and get as much ofit > > as possible. > > > > I have a cable modem (3Com U.S. Robotics Cable Modem CMX). My download > speed > > is blazing fast. My pings are always excellent, and my connectionquality

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> is > > usually at 100 to most servers, including Eldred's. BTW, the freezes > happen > > no matter what server I join. No one ever complains that my car is > > disappearing during a race either. > > > > All background programs are shut down when racing online. OS is XP home. > > > > These freezes don't happen with any other game online. > > > > Dave > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Q1SO8.28558$[email hidden]... > > > David, > > > > > > I'd like to take a crack at this freeze-up problem. Since I do this

for

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> a > > > living, I might be able to catch something that has been missed. > > > > > > I will need some pretty extensive info though, mainly a very thorough > > report > > > on your system. In fact, it wouldn't hurt to have something like > > complete > > > system report from Sandra or other system catalogging utility. > > > > > > At a minimum, I'd like to have: > > > > > > 1. System Board Mfr/Model, BIOS Revision and, if you know it,

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> > > number of the board itself. > > > 2. Amount of RAM, and Manufacturer. Include their part number if you > > have > > > it. > > > 3. Hard Drive manufacturer, size, model and firmware version. > > > 4. Sound Card MFR. > > > 5. NIC Card MFR. > > > 6. Graphics Card MFR, and BIOS rev if you have it. > > > 7. Info on any other cards or internal devices. > > > 8. Make, Model and Firmware revision of any other drives installed. > > > 9. Power Supply Size, MFR and Model Number. > > > 10. Processor, and whether it is a OEM or Retail. > > > 11. Keyboard and Mouse MFR/Model. > > > 12. Any other periperals, printers included, attached. > > > > > > For PCI Cards, what slot they are in, counting AWAY from the AGP Slot. > > > > > > 13. Driver revision numbers for all devices. > > > 14. Operating System and Version. > > > 15. Any system 'modifying' utilities installed, including graphics

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> > use. > > > > > > Anything else you can think of that I might have missed. > > > > > > I know this is a lot, but maybe we can reel in this thing eventually. > > > > > > Don't underestimate the ability of the AGP Aperture Setting to > completely > > > hose a system. On AMD systems especially, this thing can be tricky to > set > > > right, and is usually the last thing you can think of. > > > > > > For example, I've been reporting freezes in the OGL version of NR2002 > > since > > > the first patch came out. I spent an ENTIRE weekend installing

Windows > > > fresh several times, reinstalling NR2002, etc... It was always fine > until > > I > > > applied the first or second patch, and then it would crash NR2002within > a > > > few laps every time in OGL mode. > > > > > > My AGP Aperture setting has been at 128 for pretty much forever.Today,

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> I > > > changed it to 64 and tested. I haven't seen a crash in NR2002 since > > > (though I still run in D3D until someone releases a Refresh Rate fix > that > > > really works reliably, like NVRefFix used to). > > > > > > This made possible sense after I discovered it. The original NR2002

did > > not > > > incorporate Texture Compression. The first and second patches DO.Now, > I > > > can't definitely tie that to the AGP Aperture Setting, but if youthink > > > about it it's entirely possible that the new routines simply don'twork

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> > well > > > with an AGP Aperture Setting of 128 on MY computer. > > > > > > I go now :) > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:sHRO8.265274$[email hidden]... > > > > Because of my freezes, I dropped out early so as not to cause any > > > accidents. > > > > It was a great race to watch though. Good driving all around. I kept > > going > > > > back and forth from the contest for 1 and 2, and the 3,4, and 5 > battle. > > > > > > > > Larry, I'd say you've quickly become one of the top drivers in

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> > > Keep > > > > it up. :-) > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:7UOO8.27349$[email hidden]... > > > > > Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) > > > > > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

You might want to make sure the N2002 task watchdog is disabled. Under XP, I wouldn't count out resource probs like IRQ or PCI bus contention either. And of course, when you say no background progs are running, under XP that doesn't mean a lot. There's a lot of services running you probably aren't even aware of. Even 'calling home' stuff. Have you checked into that diligently? Achim "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:TmrP8.262985$%[email hidden]...

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> Thanks for the offer Larry. > > I think I've narrowed down the cause of the screen freezes a bit. After I > quit the race Saturday, I watched it live on the replay screen and noticed > that I had a couple of freezes even then. About 3 seconds in length, just > like when I'm racing. I've done a few offline races since, in addition to > the one I did for practice on Friday night and have had no freezes. It

looks > like this may be related to my internet connection. What's very strange is > that I DEFINITELY used to get freezes offline against the AI as well. > > Strange, huh? Any ideas now as to what could be causing the 3 second > freezes? As I've said before, the screen freezes, but the actioncontinues.

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> The car keeps moving, and I hear live sound. I no longer think it has > anything to do with drivers (tried many both in openGL and D3D), my sound > card, ram or streaming sound. > > If you still think you need the info below, I'll try and get as much of it > as possible. > > I have a cable modem (3Com U.S. Robotics Cable Modem CMX). My download

speed > is blazing fast. My pings are always excellent, and my connection qualityis > usually at 100 to most servers, including Eldred's. BTW, the freezeshappen

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> no matter what server I join. No one ever complains that my car is > disappearing during a race either. > > All background programs are shut down when racing online. OS is XP home. > > These freezes don't happen with any other game online. > > Dave > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Q1SO8.28558$[email hidden]... > > David, > > > > I'd like to take a crack at this freeze-up problem. Since I do this for

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> > living, I might be able to catch something that has been missed. > > > > I will need some pretty extensive info though, mainly a very thorough > report > > on your system. In fact, it wouldn't hurt to have something like > complete > > system report from Sandra or other system catalogging utility. > > > > At a minimum, I'd like to have: > > > > 1. System Board Mfr/Model, BIOS Revision and, if you know it, revision > > number of the board itself. > > 2. Amount of RAM, and Manufacturer. Include their part number if you > have > > it. > > 3. Hard Drive manufacturer, size, model and firmware version. > > 4. Sound Card MFR. > > 5. NIC Card MFR. > > 6. Graphics Card MFR, and BIOS rev if you have it. > > 7. Info on any other cards or internal devices. > > 8. Make, Model and Firmware revision of any other drives installed. > > 9. Power Supply Size, MFR and Model Number. > > 10. Processor, and whether it is a OEM or Retail. > > 11. Keyboard and Mouse MFR/Model. > > 12. Any other periperals, printers included, attached. > > > > For PCI Cards, what slot they are in, counting AWAY from the AGP Slot. > > > > 13. Driver revision numbers for all devices. > > 14. Operating System and Version. > > 15. Any system 'modifying' utilities installed, including graphics card > > modifyers. > > 16. The AGP Apeture Setting in your BIOS (one of my likely suspects). > > > > Internet connection type and any routers, hubs, cable modems, etc... in > use. > > > > Anything else you can think of that I might have missed. > > > > I know this is a lot, but maybe we can reel in this thing eventually. > > > > Don't underestimate the ability of the AGP Aperture Setting to

completely > > hose a system. On AMD systems especially, this thing can be tricky toset > > right, and is usually the last thing you can think of. > > > > For example, I've been reporting freezes in the OGL version of NR2002 > since > > the first patch came out. I spent an ENTIRE weekend installing Windows > > fresh several times, reinstalling NR2002, etc... It was always fineuntil > I > > applied the first or second patch, and then it would crash NR2002 withina > > few laps every time in OGL mode. > > > > My AGP Aperture setting has been at 128 for pretty much forever. Today,I > > changed it to 64 and tested. I haven't seen a crash in NR2002 since > > (though I still run in D3D until someone releases a Refresh Rate fixthat > > really works reliably, like NVRefFix used to). > > > > This made possible sense after I discovered it. The original NR2002 did > not > > incorporate Texture Compression. The first and second patches DO. Now,I

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> > can't definitely tie that to the AGP Aperture Setting, but if you think > > about it it's entirely possible that the new routines simply don't work > well > > with an AGP Aperture Setting of 128 on MY computer. > > > > I go now :) > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:sHRO8.265274$[email hidden]... > > > Because of my freezes, I dropped out early so as not to cause any > > accidents. > > > It was a great race to watch though. Good driving all around. I kept > going > > > back and forth from the contest for 1 and 2, and the 3,4, and 5

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> > > > > > Larry, I'd say you've quickly become one of the top drivers in RASCAR. > > Keep > > > it up. :-) > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:7UOO8.27349$[email hidden]... > > > > Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) > > > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

In article <TmrP8.262985$%[email hidden]>, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>I have a cable modem (3Com U.S. Robotics Cable Modem CMX). My download speed >is blazing fast. My pings are always excellent, and my connection quality is >usually at 100 to most servers, including Eldred's. BTW, the freezes happen >no matter what server I join. No one ever complains that my car is >disappearing during a race either. > >All background programs are shut down when racing online. OS is XP home. > >These freezes don't happen with any other game online.

Did we already rule out overheating or overclocking? Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Thanks to those of you who made a donation for breast cancer research. The walkathon is over, but donations are still being accepted. Details on my webpage. Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Yes. One of the first things I tried was having a big fan blowing on the CPU and graphics card. Besides, it's only happening online. If it was heat, it would happen offline as well. David G Fisher "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20020617191457.28627.00000370@mb-> > >I have a cable modem (3Com U.S. Robotics Cable Modem CMX). My downloadspeed > >is blazing fast. My pings are always excellent, and my connection qualityis > >usually at 100 to most servers, including Eldred's. BTW, the freezeshappen

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> >no matter what server I join. No one ever complains that my car is > >disappearing during a race either. > > > >All background programs are shut down when racing online. OS is XP home. > > > >These freezes don't happen with any other game online. > > Did we already rule out overheating or overclocking? > > Eldred

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> You might want to make sure the N2002 task watchdog is disabled. Under XP, I > wouldn't count out resource probs like IRQ or PCI bus contention either. And > of course, when you say no background progs are running, under XP that > doesn't mean a lot. There's a lot of services running you probably aren't > even aware of. Even 'calling home' stuff. Have you checked into that > diligently? > > Achim >

David, this is a little out of left field, but 'Achim reminded me of this with his "calling home" reference, & you have tried almost everything else. Have you run Ad-Aware from Lavasoft (www.lavasoftusa.com) to see if you have any spyware running? I ran it some time ago, & again just now, & found a "suspicious" entry which I backed up, then removed. I thought I was safe from this kind of thing, but apparently wasn't. At first, this wouldn't seem to apply, but the more I thought about your problems... what can it hurt? (just make sure to back up anything suspicious b4 you remove it) Unlikely, but HTH Brian

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> > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:TmrP8.262985$%[email hidden]... > > Thanks for the offer Larry. > > > > I think I've narrowed down the cause of the screen freezes a bit. After I > > quit the race Saturday, I watched it live on the replay screen and noticed > > that I had a couple of freezes even then. About 3 seconds in length, just > > like when I'm racing. I've done a few offline races since, in addition to > > the one I did for practice on Friday night and have had no freezes. It > looks > > like this may be related to my internet connection. What's very strange is > > that I DEFINITELY used to get freezes offline against the AI as well.

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FWIW I have the same modem...no freezes like you describe....good luck.... dave henrie "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:TmrP8.262985$%[email hidden]...

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> Thanks for the offer Larry. > > I think I've narrowed down the cause of the screen freezes a bit. After I > quit the race Saturday, I watched it live on the replay screen and noticed > that I had a couple of freezes even then. About 3 seconds in length, just > like when I'm racing. I've done a few offline races since, in addition to > the one I did for practice on Friday night and have had no freezes. It

looks > like this may be related to my internet connection. What's very strange is > that I DEFINITELY used to get freezes offline against the AI as well. > > Strange, huh? Any ideas now as to what could be causing the 3 second > freezes? As I've said before, the screen freezes, but the actioncontinues.

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> The car keeps moving, and I hear live sound. I no longer think it has > anything to do with drivers (tried many both in openGL and D3D), my sound > card, ram or streaming sound. > > If you still think you need the info below, I'll try and get as much of it > as possible. > > I have a cable modem (3Com U.S. Robotics Cable Modem CMX). My download

speed > is blazing fast. My pings are always excellent, and my connection qualityis > usually at 100 to most servers, including Eldred's. BTW, the freezeshappen

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> no matter what server I join. No one ever complains that my car is > disappearing during a race either. > > All background programs are shut down when racing online. OS is XP home. > > These freezes don't happen with any other game online. > > Dave > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Q1SO8.28558$[email hidden]... > > David, > > > > I'd like to take a crack at this freeze-up problem. Since I do this for

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> > living, I might be able to catch something that has been missed. > > > > I will need some pretty extensive info though, mainly a very thorough > report > > on your system. In fact, it wouldn't hurt to have something like > complete > > system report from Sandra or other system catalogging utility. > > > > At a minimum, I'd like to have: > > > > 1. System Board Mfr/Model, BIOS Revision and, if you know it, revision > > number of the board itself. > > 2. Amount of RAM, and Manufacturer. Include their part number if you > have > > it. > > 3. Hard Drive manufacturer, size, model and firmware version. > > 4. Sound Card MFR. > > 5. NIC Card MFR. > > 6. Graphics Card MFR, and BIOS rev if you have it. > > 7. Info on any other cards or internal devices. > > 8. Make, Model and Firmware revision of any other drives installed. > > 9. Power Supply Size, MFR and Model Number. > > 10. Processor, and whether it is a OEM or Retail. > > 11. Keyboard and Mouse MFR/Model. > > 12. Any other periperals, printers included, attached. > > > > For PCI Cards, what slot they are in, counting AWAY from the AGP Slot. > > > > 13. Driver revision numbers for all devices. > > 14. Operating System and Version. > > 15. Any system 'modifying' utilities installed, including graphics card > > modifyers. > > 16. The AGP Apeture Setting in your BIOS (one of my likely suspects). > > > > Internet connection type and any routers, hubs, cable modems, etc... in > use. > > > > Anything else you can think of that I might have missed. > > > > I know this is a lot, but maybe we can reel in this thing eventually. > > > > Don't underestimate the ability of the AGP Aperture Setting to

completely > > hose a system. On AMD systems especially, this thing can be tricky toset > > right, and is usually the last thing you can think of. > > > > For example, I've been reporting freezes in the OGL version of NR2002 > since > > the first patch came out. I spent an ENTIRE weekend installing Windows > > fresh several times, reinstalling NR2002, etc... It was always fineuntil > I > > applied the first or second patch, and then it would crash NR2002 withina > > few laps every time in OGL mode. > > > > My AGP Aperture setting has been at 128 for pretty much forever. Today,I > > changed it to 64 and tested. I haven't seen a crash in NR2002 since > > (though I still run in D3D until someone releases a Refresh Rate fixthat > > really works reliably, like NVRefFix used to). > > > > This made possible sense after I discovered it. The original NR2002 did > not > > incorporate Texture Compression. The first and second patches DO. Now,I

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> > can't definitely tie that to the AGP Aperture Setting, but if you think > > about it it's entirely possible that the new routines simply don't work > well > > with an AGP Aperture Setting of 128 on MY computer. > > > > I go now :) > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:sHRO8.265274$[email hidden]... > > > Because of my freezes, I dropped out early so as not to cause any > > accidents. > > > It was a great race to watch though. Good driving all around. I kept > going > > > back and forth from the contest for 1 and 2, and the 3,4, and 5

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> > > > > > Larry, I'd say you've quickly become one of the top drivers in RASCAR. > > Keep > > > it up. :-) > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:7UOO8.27349$[email hidden]... > > > > Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) > > > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I wouldn't think it would be your internet connection since this would just be a warping issue. If you are running XP, do like others have suggested in this thread and look at which services you are running. I am now running XP pro and I was able to disable a ton of services. You may want to also check to see if you Cable Modem and your Video card are sharing an IRQ. If they are maybe this could explain why you have more problems on line. Theoretically they should be able to share an IRQ but everything I have read suggests that you make sure that your video card has an IRQ all to itself. It is actually too bad that you don't still have the freezes off-line because if you did you could just pull the Cable Modem out and see if that solves the problem. Also, I had a problem a while back with N2002 under win98 related to video. I wasn't getting screen freezes but rather full lockups. After several weeks I finally narrowed it down to the 4-in-1 drivers for my VIA chipset on my motherboard. I had upgraded to the latest VIA chipset drivers and didn't have any problems in any other games except N2002. I went back to the 4-in1 drivers that shipped with my MB and it solved the problem. Among other things the 4-in-1 drivers allow AGP 4x. Also, did you do a clean install of XP home or did you install over a previous OS? Brian Oster On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 20:10:27 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Thanks for the offer Larry. > >I think I've narrowed down the cause of the screen freezes a bit. After I >quit the race Saturday, I watched it live on the replay screen and noticed >that I had a couple of freezes even then. About 3 seconds in length, just >like when I'm racing. I've done a few offline races since, in addition to >the one I did for practice on Friday night and have had no freezes. It looks >like this may be related to my internet connection. What's very strange is >that I DEFINITELY used to get freezes offline against the AI as well. > >Strange, huh? Any ideas now as to what could be causing the 3 second >freezes? As I've said before, the screen freezes, but the action continues. >The car keeps moving, and I hear live sound. I no longer think it has >anything to do with drivers (tried many both in openGL and D3D), my sound >card, ram or streaming sound. > >If you still think you need the info below, I'll try and get as much of it >as possible. > >I have a cable modem (3Com U.S. Robotics Cable Modem CMX). My download speed >is blazing fast. My pings are always excellent, and my connection quality is >usually at 100 to most servers, including Eldred's. BTW, the freezes happen >no matter what server I join. No one ever complains that my car is >disappearing during a race either. > >All background programs are shut down when racing online. OS is XP home. > >These freezes don't happen with any other game online. > >Dave > >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:Q1SO8.28558$[email hidden]... >> David, >> >> I'd like to take a crack at this freeze-up problem. Since I do this for a >> living, I might be able to catch something that has been missed. >> >> I will need some pretty extensive info though, mainly a very thorough >report >> on your system. In fact, it wouldn't hurt to have something like >complete >> system report from Sandra or other system catalogging utility. >> >> At a minimum, I'd like to have: >> >> 1. System Board Mfr/Model, BIOS Revision and, if you know it, revision >> number of the board itself. >> 2. Amount of RAM, and Manufacturer. Include their part number if you >have >> it. >> 3. Hard Drive manufacturer, size, model and firmware version. >> 4. Sound Card MFR. >> 5. NIC Card MFR. >> 6. Graphics Card MFR, and BIOS rev if you have it. >> 7. Info on any other cards or internal devices. >> 8. Make, Model and Firmware revision of any other drives installed. >> 9. Power Supply Size, MFR and Model Number. >> 10. Processor, and whether it is a OEM or Retail. >> 11. Keyboard and Mouse MFR/Model. >> 12. Any other periperals, printers included, attached. >> >> For PCI Cards, what slot they are in, counting AWAY from the AGP Slot. >> >> 13. Driver revision numbers for all devices. >> 14. Operating System and Version. >> 15. Any system 'modifying' utilities installed, including graphics card >> modifyers. >> 16. The AGP Apeture Setting in your BIOS (one of my likely suspects). >> >> Internet connection type and any routers, hubs, cable modems, etc... in >use. >> >> Anything else you can think of that I might have missed. >> >> I know this is a lot, but maybe we can reel in this thing eventually. >> >> Don't underestimate the ability of the AGP Aperture Setting to completely >> hose a system. On AMD systems especially, this thing can be tricky to set >> right, and is usually the last thing you can think of. >> >> For example, I've been reporting freezes in the OGL version of NR2002 >since >> the first patch came out. I spent an ENTIRE weekend installing Windows >> fresh several times, reinstalling NR2002, etc... It was always fine until >I >> applied the first or second patch, and then it would crash NR2002 within a >> few laps every time in OGL mode. >> >> My AGP Aperture setting has been at 128 for pretty much forever. Today, I >> changed it to 64 and tested. I haven't seen a crash in NR2002 since >> (though I still run in D3D until someone releases a Refresh Rate fix that >> really works reliably, like NVRefFix used to). >> >> This made possible sense after I discovered it. The original NR2002 did >not >> incorporate Texture Compression. The first and second patches DO. Now, I >> can't definitely tie that to the AGP Aperture Setting, but if you think >> about it it's entirely possible that the new routines simply don't work >well >> with an AGP Aperture Setting of 128 on MY computer. >> >> I go now :) >> >> -Larry >> >> >> >> >> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:sHRO8.265274$[email hidden]... >> > Because of my freezes, I dropped out early so as not to cause any >> accidents. >> > It was a great race to watch though. Good driving all around. I kept >going >> > back and forth from the contest for 1 and 2, and the 3,4, and 5 battle. >> > >> > Larry, I'd say you've quickly become one of the top drivers in RASCAR. >> Keep >> > it up. :-) >> > >> > David G Fisher >> > >> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > news:7UOO8.27349$[email hidden]... >> > > Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) >> > > >> > > -Larry >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> >

Thanks for the info. I did a clean install of XP. Davis G Fisher "Brian Oster" <bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I wouldn't think it would be your internet connection since this would > just be a warping issue. If you are running XP, do like others have > suggested in this thread and look at which services you are running. > I am now running XP pro and I was able to disable a ton of services. > > You may want to also check to see if you Cable Modem and your Video > card are sharing an IRQ. If they are maybe this could explain why you > have more problems on line. Theoretically they should be able to > share an IRQ but everything I have read suggests that you make sure > that your video card has an IRQ all to itself. > > It is actually too bad that you don't still have the freezes off-line > because if you did you could just pull the Cable Modem out and see if > that solves the problem. > > Also, I had a problem a while back with N2002 under win98 related to > video. I wasn't getting screen freezes but rather full lockups. > After several weeks I finally narrowed it down to the 4-in-1 drivers > for my VIA chipset on my motherboard. I had upgraded to the latest > VIA chipset drivers and didn't have any problems in any other games > except N2002. I went back to the 4-in1 drivers that shipped with my > MB and it solved the problem. Among other things the 4-in-1 drivers > allow AGP 4x. > > Also, did you do a clean install of XP home or did you install over a > previous OS? > > > Brian Oster > > > On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 20:10:27 GMT, "David G Fisher" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Thanks for the offer Larry. > > > >I think I've narrowed down the cause of the screen freezes a bit. After I > >quit the race Saturday, I watched it live on the replay screen and

noticed > >that I had a couple of freezes even then. About 3 seconds in length, just > >like when I'm racing. I've done a few offline races since, in addition to > >the one I did for practice on Friday night and have had no freezes. Itlooks > >like this may be related to my internet connection. What's very strangeis > >that I DEFINITELY used to get freezes offline against the AI as well. > > > >Strange, huh? Any ideas now as to what could be causing the 3 second > >freezes? As I've said before, the screen freezes, but the actioncontinues. > >The car keeps moving, and I hear live sound. I no longer think it has > >anything to do with drivers (tried many both in openGL and D3D), my sound > >card, ram or streaming sound. > > > >If you still think you need the info below, I'll try and get as much ofit > >as possible. > > > >I have a cable modem (3Com U.S. Robotics Cable Modem CMX). My downloadspeed > >is blazing fast. My pings are always excellent, and my connection qualityis > >usually at 100 to most servers, including Eldred's. BTW, the freezeshappen

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> >no matter what server I join. No one ever complains that my car is > >disappearing during a race either. > > > >All background programs are shut down when racing online. OS is XP home. > > > >These freezes don't happen with any other game online. > > > >Dave > > > >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:Q1SO8.28558$[email hidden]... > >> David, > >> > >> I'd like to take a crack at this freeze-up problem. Since I do this

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> >> living, I might be able to catch something that has been missed. > >> > >> I will need some pretty extensive info though, mainly a very thorough > >report > >> on your system. In fact, it wouldn't hurt to have something like > >complete > >> system report from Sandra or other system catalogging utility. > >> > >> At a minimum, I'd like to have: > >> > >> 1. System Board Mfr/Model, BIOS Revision and, if you know it, revision > >> number of the board itself. > >> 2. Amount of RAM, and Manufacturer. Include their part number if you > >have > >> it. > >> 3. Hard Drive manufacturer, size, model and firmware version. > >> 4. Sound Card MFR. > >> 5. NIC Card MFR. > >> 6. Graphics Card MFR, and BIOS rev if you have it. > >> 7. Info on any other cards or internal devices. > >> 8. Make, Model and Firmware revision of any other drives installed. > >> 9. Power Supply Size, MFR and Model Number. > >> 10. Processor, and whether it is a OEM or Retail. > >> 11. Keyboard and Mouse MFR/Model. > >> 12. Any other periperals, printers included, attached. > >> > >> For PCI Cards, what slot they are in, counting AWAY from the AGP Slot. > >> > >> 13. Driver revision numbers for all devices. > >> 14. Operating System and Version. > >> 15. Any system 'modifying' utilities installed, including graphics card > >> modifyers. > >> 16. The AGP Apeture Setting in your BIOS (one of my likely suspects). > >> > >> Internet connection type and any routers, hubs, cable modems, etc... in > >use. > >> > >> Anything else you can think of that I might have missed. > >> > >> I know this is a lot, but maybe we can reel in this thing eventually. > >> > >> Don't underestimate the ability of the AGP Aperture Setting to

completely > >> hose a system. On AMD systems especially, this thing can be tricky toset > >> right, and is usually the last thing you can think of. > >> > >> For example, I've been reporting freezes in the OGL version of NR2002 > >since > >> the first patch came out. I spent an ENTIRE weekend installing Windows > >> fresh several times, reinstalling NR2002, etc... It was always fineuntil > >I > >> applied the first or second patch, and then it would crash NR2002within a > >> few laps every time in OGL mode. > >> > >> My AGP Aperture setting has been at 128 for pretty much forever.Today, I > >> changed it to 64 and tested. I haven't seen a crash in NR2002 since > >> (though I still run in D3D until someone releases a Refresh Rate fixthat > >> really works reliably, like NVRefFix used to). > >> > >> This made possible sense after I discovered it. The original NR2002did > >not > >> incorporate Texture Compression. The first and second patches DO.Now, I

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> >> can't definitely tie that to the AGP Aperture Setting, but if you think > >> about it it's entirely possible that the new routines simply don't work > >well > >> with an AGP Aperture Setting of 128 on MY computer. > >> > >> I go now :) > >> > >> -Larry > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:sHRO8.265274$[email hidden]... > >> > Because of my freezes, I dropped out early so as not to cause any > >> accidents. > >> > It was a great race to watch though. Good driving all around. I kept > >going > >> > back and forth from the contest for 1 and 2, and the 3,4, and 5

battle. > >> > > >> > Larry, I'd say you've quickly become one of the top drivers inRASCAR.

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> >> Keep > >> > it up. :-) > >> > > >> > David G Fisher > >> > > >> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> > news:7UOO8.27349$[email hidden]... > >> > > Nice job saving the tires. That's what won that race, for sure :) > >> > > > >> > > -Larry > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >

I downloaded and ran the program. Files from Comet cursor and Gator (don't know what that is) showed up. Deleted Comet cursor and everything related to both. Nothing comes up now when I run the program again. Could one of those have been causing my problems? David G fisher "B.Farmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PguP8.1568$[email hidden]... > > > David, this is a little out of left field, but 'Achim reminded me of thiswith > his "calling home" reference, & you have tried almost everything else. > > Have you run Ad-Aware from Lavasoft (www.lavasoftusa.com) to see if youhave any > spyware running? I ran it some time ago, & again just now, & found a > "suspicious" entry which I backed up, then removed. I thought I was safefrom > this kind of thing, but apparently wasn't. At first, this wouldn't seemto > apply, but the more I thought about your problems... what can it hurt?(just

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> make sure to back up anything suspicious b4 you remove it) > > Unlikely, but HTH > Brian > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:TmrP8.262985$%[email hidden]... > > > Thanks for the offer Larry. > > > > > > I think I've narrowed down the cause of the screen freezes a bit.

After I > > > quit the race Saturday, I watched it live on the replay screen andnoticed > > > that I had a couple of freezes even then. About 3 seconds in length,just > > > like when I'm racing. I've done a few offline races since, in additionto > > > the one I did for practice on Friday night and have had no freezes. It > > looks > > > like this may be related to my internet connection. What's verystrange is > > > that I DEFINITELY used to get freezes offline against the AI as well. > > <snip> > >

Commet cursor and gator are spyware...they track your web adventures. The only trouble I had getting rid of gator once, the ad-aware program found a 'gator' inside of Age of Kings....well...it WAS an (alli)gator not the spy program...Had to re-install to fix it.... WhenEVER you go to a site that want to mess with your cursor...do NOT allow/agree/accept any of the suggested changes... Hopefully this will fix things for you...good luck. dave henrie "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RpCP8.269500$%[email hidden]... > I downloaded and ran the program. Files from Comet cursor and Gator (don't > know what that is) showed up. Deleted Comet cursor and everything relatedto > both. Nothing comes up now when I run the program again. Could one ofthose

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> with > > his "calling home" reference, & you have tried almost everything else. > > > > Have you run Ad-Aware from Lavasoft (www.lavasoftusa.com) to see if you > have any > > spyware running? I ran it some time ago, & again just now, & found a > > "suspicious" entry which I backed up, then removed. I thought I was

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> from > > this kind of thing, but apparently wasn't. At first, this wouldn't seem > to > > apply, but the more I thought about your problems... what can it hurt? > (just > > make sure to back up anything suspicious b4 you remove it) > > > > Unlikely, but HTH > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:TmrP8.262985$%[email hidden]... > > > > Thanks for the offer Larry. > > > > > > > > I think I've narrowed down the cause of the screen freezes a bit. > After I > > > > quit the race Saturday, I watched it live on the replay screen and > noticed > > > > that I had a couple of freezes even then. About 3 seconds in length, > just > > > > like when I'm racing. I've done a few offline races since, in

addition > to > > > > the one I did for practice on Friday night and have had no freezes.It > > > looks > > > > like this may be related to my internet connection. What's very > strange is > > > > that I DEFINITELY used to get freezes offline against the AI aswell. > > > > <snip> > > > > > >

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> Commet cursor and gator are spyware...they track your web adventures. > The only trouble I had getting rid of gator once, the ad-aware program > found a 'gator' inside of Age of Kings....well...it WAS an (alli)gator not > the spy program...Had to re-install to fix it.... > WhenEVER you go to a site that want to mess with your cursor...do NOT > allow/agree/accept any of the suggested changes... > Hopefully this will fix things for you...good luck. > dave henrie

What he said ^^^ ;-) Also, both are known (or at least suspected, depends on who you believe) to "phone home" regularly, & with a processor/graphics intensive app like N2002, *could* explain your intermittent, short term screen freezes, esp. w/ a 24/7 type connection, even when playing offline. OTOH, it could be something else, but... only 1 way to find out. ;o/ Brian > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:RpCP8.269500$%[email hidden]... > > I downloaded and ran the program. Files from Comet cursor and Gator (don't > > know what that is) showed up. Deleted Comet cursor and everything related <snip>

Good recommendation! -Larry "B.Farmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PguP8.1568$[email hidden]... > > Joachim Trensz <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aelhck$7rceb$[email hidden]... > > You might want to make sure the N2002 task watchdog is disabled. UnderXP, I > > wouldn't count out resource probs like IRQ or PCI bus contention either.And > > of course, when you say no background progs are running, under XP that > > doesn't mean a lot. There's a lot of services running you probablyaren't

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> > even aware of. Even 'calling home' stuff. Have you checked into that > > diligently? > > > > Achim > > > > David, this is a little out of left field, but 'Achim reminded me of this

with > his "calling home" reference, & you have tried almost everything else. > > Have you run Ad-Aware from Lavasoft (www.lavasoftusa.com) to see if youhave any > spyware running? I ran it some time ago, & again just now, & found a > "suspicious" entry which I backed up, then removed. I thought I was safefrom > this kind of thing, but apparently wasn't. At first, this wouldn't seemto > apply, but the more I thought about your problems... what can it hurt?(just

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> make sure to back up anything suspicious b4 you remove it) > > Unlikely, but HTH > Brian > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:TmrP8.262985$%[email hidden]... > > > Thanks for the offer Larry. > > > > > > I think I've narrowed down the cause of the screen freezes a bit.

After I > > > quit the race Saturday, I watched it live on the replay screen andnoticed > > > that I had a couple of freezes even then. About 3 seconds in length,just > > > like when I'm racing. I've done a few offline races since, in additionto > > > the one I did for practice on Friday night and have had no freezes. It > > looks > > > like this may be related to my internet connection. What's verystrange is > > > that I DEFINITELY used to get freezes offline against the AI as well. > > <snip> > >

Ya damned skippy! Two of the most well-known spyware programs of all time! -Larry "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RpCP8.269500$%[email hidden]... > I downloaded and ran the program. Files from Comet cursor and Gator (don't > know what that is) showed up. Deleted Comet cursor and everything relatedto > both. Nothing comes up now when I run the program again. Could one ofthose

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> with > > his "calling home" reference, & you have tried almost everything else. > > > > Have you run Ad-Aware from Lavasoft (www.lavasoftusa.com) to see if you > have any > > spyware running? I ran it some time ago, & again just now, & found a > > "suspicious" entry which I backed up, then removed. I thought I was

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> from > > this kind of thing, but apparently wasn't. At first, this wouldn't seem > to > > apply, but the more I thought about your problems... what can it hurt? > (just > > make sure to back up anything suspicious b4 you remove it) > > > > Unlikely, but HTH > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:TmrP8.262985$%[email hidden]... > > > > Thanks for the offer Larry. > > > > > > > > I think I've narrowed down the cause of the screen freezes a bit. > After I > > > > quit the race Saturday, I watched it live on the replay screen and > noticed > > > > that I had a couple of freezes even then. About 3 seconds in length, > just > > > > like when I'm racing. I've done a few offline races since, in

addition > to > > > > the one I did for practice on Friday night and have had no freezes.It > > > looks > > > > like this may be related to my internet connection. What's very > strange is > > > > that I DEFINITELY used to get freezes offline against the AI aswell. > > > > <snip> > > > > > >

It's in core.ini, in the [tasking] section. Set the parameter enable_watchdog to 0 to disable it. Achim "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:i6tP8.301952$[email hidden]...

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> What is the N2002 task watchdog? Never heard of it. > > David G Fisher > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aelhck$7rceb$[email hidden]... > > You might want to make sure the N2002 task watchdog is disabled. Under

XP, > I > > wouldn't count out resource probs like IRQ or PCI bus contention either. > And > > of course, when you say no background progs are running, under XP that > > doesn't mean a lot. There's a lot of services running you probablyaren't > > even aware of. Even 'calling home' stuff. Have you checked into that > > diligently? > > > > Achim

If they 'phone home' from time to time, yes, they can have been the culprit. Honestly, though, if you're at this level of checking your system, you probably have a lot more running in the background than you are aware of. Not necessarily 3rd party stuff, I'm talking about XP's own services. Do you know that several module of XP can call home as well in regular intervals, unless you tell them not to? And that XP limits your online bandwidth by always reserving a huge chunk of it for itself? Achim "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RpCP8.269500$%[email hidden]... > I downloaded and ran the program. Files from Comet cursor and Gator (don't > know what that is) showed up. Deleted Comet cursor and everything relatedto > both. Nothing comes up now when I run the program again. Could one ofthose

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> with > > his "calling home" reference, & you have tried almost everything else. > > > > Have you run Ad-Aware from Lavasoft (www.lavasoftusa.com) to see if you > have any > > spyware running? I ran it some time ago, & again just now, & found a > > "suspicious" entry which I backed up, then removed. I thought I was

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> from > > this kind of thing, but apparently wasn't. At first, this wouldn't seem > to > > apply, but the more I thought about your problems... what can it hurt? > (just > > make sure to back up anything suspicious b4 you remove it) > > > > Unlikely, but HTH > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:TmrP8.262985$%[email hidden]... > > > > Thanks for the offer Larry. > > > > > > > > I think I've narrowed down the cause of the screen freezes a bit. > After I > > > > quit the race Saturday, I watched it live on the replay screen and > noticed > > > > that I had a couple of freezes even then. About 3 seconds in length, > just > > > > like when I'm racing. I've done a few offline races since, in

addition > to > > > > the one I did for practice on Friday night and have had no freezes.It > > > looks > > > > like this may be related to my internet connection. What's very > strange is > > > > that I DEFINITELY used to get freezes offline against the AI aswell. > > > > <snip> > > > > > >

Ok, disabled it, but what exactly does it do when it's on? David G Fisher "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aenrkf$8grbh$[email hidden]...

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> It's in core.ini, in the [tasking] section. Set the parameter > enable_watchdog to 0 to disable it. > > Achim > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:i6tP8.301952$[email hidden]... > > What is the N2002 task watchdog? Never heard of it. > > > > David G Fisher > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:aelhck$7rceb$[email hidden]... > > > You might want to make sure the N2002 task watchdog is disabled. Under > XP, > > I > > > wouldn't count out resource probs like IRQ or PCI bus contention

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> > And > > > of course, when you say no background progs are running, under XP that > > > doesn't mean a lot. There's a lot of services running you probably > aren't > > > even aware of. Even 'calling home' stuff. Have you checked into that > > > diligently? > > > > > > Achim > >

Yeah, what he asked :) Is there a document that documents every line of the NR2002 ini files ? It sure isn't in that poor-excuse for a manual. Man, talk about dissapointing! Eric, wazzup with dat manual, man! -Larry "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RnMP8.15238$[email hidden]...

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> Ok, disabled it, but what exactly does it do when it's on? > > David G Fisher > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aenrkf$8grbh$[email hidden]... > > It's in core.ini, in the [tasking] section. Set the parameter > > enable_watchdog to 0 to disable it. > > > > Achim > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:i6tP8.301952$[email hidden]... > > > What is the N2002 task watchdog? Never heard of it. > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:aelhck$7rceb$[email hidden]... > > > > You might want to make sure the N2002 task watchdog is disabled.

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> > > > doesn't mean a lot. There's a lot of services running you probably > > aren't > > > > even aware of. Even 'calling home' stuff. Have you checked into that > > > > diligently? > > > > > > > > Achim > > > > > >

Does this mean that on a Win98SE / Open-Gl system, I might as well disable the thing? Does it only work/listen in WinXP (and/or NT-Kernel system)? -- ed_ "Joachim Trensz" said: > I cannot tell you precisely how they programmed it, but it sounds like some > code that monitors requests from WinXP's tasking system, and lets N2002 > respond to them. That can of course cause little pauses as it may require > N2002 to service the requests somehow. > > Again, I can't say how precisely they implemented it, but obviously since > its function is to listen to the system and react to it, it is something > that can cause pauses as N2002 may be forced to do something about signals > it gets from the watchdog. > > I think with it off you cannot Alt-Tab anymore, btw, because N2002 no longer > listens to these requests. Of course, you can't Alt-Tab in OpenGL anyway, so > if you use that, you don't lose anything. > > Achim

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PmCP8.11962$[email hidden]... > Thanks for the info. I did a clean install of XP. > > Davis G Fisher >I think if you go to app.ini under the [SPCC] heading and set EnableStreaming = to 0, it may solve the problem. I had screen stutter when the spotter would talk until I did this. Steve K.

Well I'm crushed. Just did 125 laps over three races on the Papy open servers. Not one freeze...........until lap 120. :-( %#@*!!!! David G Fisher "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aeo5n7$8aof4$[email hidden]... > I cannot tell you precisely how they programmed it, but it sounds likesome

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> if you use that, you don't lose anything. > > Achim > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:RnMP8.15238$[email hidden]... > > Ok, disabled it, but what exactly does it do when it's on? > > > > David G Fisher > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:aenrkf$8grbh$[email hidden]... > > > It's in core.ini, in the [tasking] section. Set the parameter > > > enable_watchdog to 0 to disable it. > > > > > > Achim > > >

Tried that awhile back, but thanks anyway. David G Fisher "Steve K." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QvOP8.63024$[email hidden]...

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> > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:PmCP8.11962$[email hidden]... > > Thanks for the info. I did a clean install of XP. > > > > Davis G Fisher > > > I think if you go to app.ini under the [SPCC] heading and set > EnableStreaming = to 0, it may solve the problem. I had screen stutter

when > the spotter would talk until I did this. > > Steve K. > >

I cannot tell you precisely how they programmed it, but it sounds like some code that monitors requests from WinXP's tasking system, and lets N2002 respond to them. That can of course cause little pauses as it may require N2002 to service the requests somehow. Again, I can't say how precisely they implemented it, but obviously since its function is to listen to the system and react to it, it is something that can cause pauses as N2002 may be forced to do something about signals it gets from the watchdog. I think with it off you cannot Alt-Tab anymore, btw, because N2002 no longer listens to these requests. Of course, you can't Alt-Tab in OpenGL anyway, so if you use that, you don't lose anything. Achim "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RnMP8.15238$[email hidden]...

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> Ok, disabled it, but what exactly does it do when it's on? > > David G Fisher > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aenrkf$8grbh$[email hidden]... > > It's in core.ini, in the [tasking] section. Set the parameter > > enable_watchdog to 0 to disable it. > > > > Achim

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PmCP8.11962$[email hidden]... > Thanks for the info. I did a clean install of XP. > > Davis G Fisher >Maybe, if you go to app.ini and under the [SPCC] heading and set EnableStreaming = to 0, it will help. I had screen stutters when the spotter would talk untill I did this. Steve K.

To ACPI or not to ACPI. Sounds like it could be possible PCI bus contention. Other than PCI slot musical chairs their's not much you can do without a OS re-install (disable ACPI in BIOS first). Just a guess Dave but it looks like youve tried most all else. IL2 Sturmovich had a pause issue similar to what you describe in N2k2 Dave, but nearly *ALL* users were affected. Maddox has patched IL2 but I still occasionally get a hiccup. The reason I bring this up is because you have hinted it's a Papy code issue. My feelings are more users would be affected if it was N2k2 code and not a hardware issue. Mitch "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aeoe17$8kk3h$[email hidden]...

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> Maybe its really one of the WinXP services or background tasks. > > Achim > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ZyOP8.21333$[email hidden]... > > Well I'm crushed. Just did 125 laps over three races on the Papy open > > servers. Not one freeze...........until lap 120. :-( > > > > %#@*!!!! > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:aeo5n7$8aof4$[email hidden]... > > > I cannot tell you precisely how they programmed it, but it sounds like > > some > > > code that monitors requests from WinXP's tasking system, and lets

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> > > that can cause pauses as N2002 may be forced to do something about > signals > > > it gets from the watchdog. > > > > > > I think with it off you cannot Alt-Tab anymore, btw, because N2002 no > > longer > > > listens to these requests. Of course, you can't Alt-Tab in OpenGL > anyway, > > so > > > if you use that, you don't lose anything. > > > > > > Achim > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:RnMP8.15238$[email hidden]... > > > > Ok, disabled it, but what exactly does it do when it's on? > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:aenrkf$8grbh$[email hidden]... > > > > > It's in core.ini, in the [tasking] section. Set the parameter > > > > > enable_watchdog to 0 to disable it. > > > > > > > > > > Achim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I really don't know whether this watchdog is doing something under all types of multitasking, and what exactly it does if it receives a message of the type it is waiting for. But it certainly can't hurt to try and disable it if you have pauses or stuttering. If you don't have pauses, it might still free up some CPU time, although not much. But if the watchdog indeed waits for tasking messages and then does something in reply to such messages, then it's better to have it off if you want to optimise N2002. Achim "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message news:bgOP8.3985$[email hidden]...

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> Does this mean that on a Win98SE / Open-Gl system, I might as well disable > the thing? > > Does it only work/listen in WinXP (and/or NT-Kernel system)? > > -- > ed_ > > "Joachim Trensz" said: > > > I cannot tell you precisely how they programmed it, but it sounds like > some > > code that monitors requests from WinXP's tasking system, and lets N2002 > > respond to them. That can of course cause little pauses as it may

require > > N2002 to service the requests somehow. > > > > Again, I can't say how precisely they implemented it, but obviouslysince > > its function is to listen to the system and react to it, it is something > > that can cause pauses as N2002 may be forced to do something aboutsignals > > it gets from the watchdog. > > > > I think with it off you cannot Alt-Tab anymore, btw, because N2002 no > longer > > listens to these requests. Of course, you can't Alt-Tab in OpenGLanyway,

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Maybe its really one of the WinXP services or background tasks. Achim "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZyOP8.21333$[email hidden]...

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> Well I'm crushed. Just did 125 laps over three races on the Papy open > servers. Not one freeze...........until lap 120. :-( > > %#@*!!!! > > David G Fisher > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aeo5n7$8aof4$[email hidden]... > > I cannot tell you precisely how they programmed it, but it sounds like > some > > code that monitors requests from WinXP's tasking system, and lets N2002 > > respond to them. That can of course cause little pauses as it may

require > > N2002 to service the requests somehow. > > > > Again, I can't say how precisely they implemented it, but obviouslysince > > its function is to listen to the system and react to it, it is something > > that can cause pauses as N2002 may be forced to do something aboutsignals > > it gets from the watchdog. > > > > I think with it off you cannot Alt-Tab anymore, btw, because N2002 no > longer > > listens to these requests. Of course, you can't Alt-Tab in OpenGLanyway,

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> so > > if you use that, you don't lose anything. > > > > Achim > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:RnMP8.15238$[email hidden]... > > > Ok, disabled it, but what exactly does it do when it's on? > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:aenrkf$8grbh$[email hidden]... > > > > It's in core.ini, in the [tasking] section. Set the parameter > > > > enable_watchdog to 0 to disable it. > > > > > > > > Achim > > > > > > > >

"Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aeoe17$8kk3h$[email hidden]... > Maybe its really one of the WinXP services or background tasks. > > Achim > With all this crap going on in the background, watchdogs and services and such...how did ANYONE get faster benchmarks with xp? And who would actually want to change to that os if you are a gamer? (not being contentious...I'm trying to find the positive in XP) Just what does it bring to gaming...besides a zillion background tasks?? dave henrie

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> > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ZyOP8.21333$[email hidden]... > > Well I'm crushed. Just did 125 laps over three races on the Papy open > > servers. Not one freeze...........until lap 120. :-( > > > > %#@*!!!! > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:aeo5n7$8aof4$[email hidden]... > > > I cannot tell you precisely how they programmed it, but it sounds like > > some > > > code that monitors requests from WinXP's tasking system, and lets

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> > > that can cause pauses as N2002 may be forced to do something about > signals > > > it gets from the watchdog. > > > > > > I think with it off you cannot Alt-Tab anymore, btw, because N2002 no > > longer > > > listens to these requests. Of course, you can't Alt-Tab in OpenGL > anyway, > > so > > > if you use that, you don't lose anything. > > > > > > Achim > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:RnMP8.15238$[email hidden]... > > > > Ok, disabled it, but what exactly does it do when it's on? > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:aenrkf$8grbh$[email hidden]... > > > > > It's in core.ini, in the [tasking] section. Set the parameter > > > > > enable_watchdog to 0 to disable it. > > > > > > > > > > Achim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Dave, the answer to your question is pretty clear, isn't it. I've spent a lot of time on discussing these topics right after XP was released, and really don't want to spend that much time again. Everybody try for themselves and use the system they like :-) There's an article on alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia in the '29.42 image quality' thread where someone comments on stutters being caused by XP's pagefile btw - maybe another item to look into for David. Achim "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iJUP8.74509$[email hidden]...

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> > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aeoe17$8kk3h$[email hidden]... > > Maybe its really one of the WinXP services or background tasks. > > > > Achim > > > With all this crap going on in the background, watchdogs and services > and such...how did ANYONE get faster benchmarks with xp? And who would > actually want to change to that os if you are a gamer? (not being > contentious...I'm trying to find the positive in XP) Just what does it > bring to gaming...besides a zillion background tasks?? > dave henrie

Any links where I can find out what the various services do? David G Fisher "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aenrkf$8grbh$[email hidden]... > Not necessarily 3rd party stuff, I'm talking about XP's own services. Doyou > know that several module of XP can call home as well in regular intervals, > unless you tell them not to? And that XP limits your online bandwidth by > always reserving a huge chunk of it for itself? > > Achim >

Try here Dave http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/windowsxp.html BTW great run Brian!!! "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3seQ8.301428$%[email hidden]... > Any links where I can find out what the various services do? > > David G Fisher >

Joachim Trensz wrote: > > The OS seemed to think that the system was idle while I was racing .. Well, if you're going that slow....... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

Thanks Mitch. Exactly what I wanted. Between that page and the link I found at the bottom http://www.overclockersclub.com/windowsxpservices.shtml of it, I think I have all the info I need. David G Fisher "Mitch Alatorre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CCfQ8.1515$[email hidden]...

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> Try here Dave http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/windowsxp.html > > BTW great run Brian!!! > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3seQ8.301428$%[email hidden]... > > Any links where I can find out what the various services do? > > > > David G Fisher > > > > >

Thanks for all the info Joachim. I coincidentally checked out the link below through the site Mitch gave me. Since I put this computer together five months ago it's worked absolutely perfectly, so I've been hesitant to possibly screw it up by fiddling with it too much. I do see though where I can turn off some unnecessary services and hopefully stop these damn freezes. David G Fisher "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aes3aj$9dh4p$[email hidden]...

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> Hi David, > > at > > http://www.overclockersclub.com/windowsxpservices.shtml > > you'll find a tweaker's guide telling you which services to disable. > > At the time when I was testing XP I followed similar recommendations from > another source, and must say that for me, most of them didn't make a > difference. > > However, there are a few that indeed should either be disabled or set up > differently. > > For example the QoS reserves online bandwidth for the operating system, > either even even if you disable it, or even if you set the bandwidth to be > reserved to 0, I forget which of the two. To avoid that you have to either > disable it or set the bandwidth reserved to 0, but unfortunately I don't > remember which of the two options is the right one. You'll have to try or > read up on the issue. > > You should also make sure your swapfile has a fixed size (512MB is a large > enough value for most everything except huge audio or graphics > manipulations). > > You should avoid XP calling home, like looking for updates for example. > > The system restore service is a candidate for disabling, as it may start > trying to make backups while you're racing - under WinME this happened

often > with GPL for me. The OS seemed to think that the system was idle while Iwas

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> racing :-) > > Achim > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3seQ8.301428$%[email hidden]... > > Any links where I can find out what the various services do? > > > > David G Fisher > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:aenrkf$8grbh$[email hidden]... > > > Not necessarily 3rd party stuff, I'm talking about XP's own services.

Do > > you > > > know that several module of XP can call home as well in regular > intervals, > > > unless you tell them not to? And that XP limits your online bandwidthby

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> > > always reserving a huge chunk of it for itself? > > > > > > Achim > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi David, at http://www.overclockersclub.com/windowsxpservices.shtml you'll find a tweaker's guide telling you which services to disable. At the time when I was testing XP I followed similar recommendations from another source, and must say that for me, most of them didn't make a difference. However, there are a few that indeed should either be disabled or set up differently. For example the QoS reserves online bandwidth for the operating system, either even even if you disable it, or even if you set the bandwidth to be reserved to 0, I forget which of the two. To avoid that you have to either disable it or set the bandwidth reserved to 0, but unfortunately I don't remember which of the two options is the right one. You'll have to try or read up on the issue. You should also make sure your swapfile has a fixed size (512MB is a large enough value for most everything except huge audio or graphics manipulations). You should avoid XP calling home, like looking for updates for example. The system restore service is a candidate for disabling, as it may start trying to make backups while you're racing - under WinME this happened often with GPL for me. The OS seemed to think that the system was idle while I was racing :-) Achim "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3seQ8.301428$%[email hidden]...

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> Any links where I can find out what the various services do? > > David G Fisher > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aenrkf$8grbh$[email hidden]... > > Not necessarily 3rd party stuff, I'm talking about XP's own services. Do > you > > know that several module of XP can call home as well in regular

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> > unless you tell them not to? And that XP limits your online bandwidth by > > always reserving a huge chunk of it for itself? > > > > Achim > > > > >

I forgot to add that this lead to freezes like you described them. Achim "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aes3aj$9dh4p$[email hidden]...

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> Hi David, > > at > > http://www.overclockersclub.com/windowsxpservices.shtml > > you'll find a tweaker's guide telling you which services to disable. > > At the time when I was testing XP I followed similar recommendations from > another source, and must say that for me, most of them didn't make a > difference. > > However, there are a few that indeed should either be disabled or set up > differently. > > For example the QoS reserves online bandwidth for the operating system, > either even even if you disable it, or even if you set the bandwidth to be > reserved to 0, I forget which of the two. To avoid that you have to either > disable it or set the bandwidth reserved to 0, but unfortunately I don't > remember which of the two options is the right one. You'll have to try or > read up on the issue. > > You should also make sure your swapfile has a fixed size (512MB is a large > enough value for most everything except huge audio or graphics > manipulations). > > You should avoid XP calling home, like looking for updates for example. > > The system restore service is a candidate for disabling, as it may start > trying to make backups while you're racing - under WinME this happened

often > with GPL for me. The OS seemed to think that the system was idle while Iwas

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> racing :-) > > Achim > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3seQ8.301428$%[email hidden]... > > Any links where I can find out what the various services do? > > > > David G Fisher > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:aenrkf$8grbh$[email hidden]... > > > Not necessarily 3rd party stuff, I'm talking about XP's own services.

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Stop talking to yourself in public :-) Achim "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Joachim Trensz wrote: > > > > The OS seemed to think that the system was idle while I was racing .. > > Well, if you're going that slow....... > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" > --Groucho Marx--

Yep, I saw the link on the page Mitch gave you. Well, better twice given than never :-) The system restore service and the pagefile are IMO something you should try first and foremost. Achim "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gthQ8.303603$%[email hidden]... > Thanks for all the info Joachim. I coincidentally checked out the linkbelow

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> through the site Mitch gave me. Since I put this computer together five > months ago it's worked absolutely perfectly, so I've been hesitant to > possibly screw it up by fiddling with it too much. I do see though where I > can turn off some unnecessary services and hopefully stop these damn > freezes. > > David G Fisher > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aes3aj$9dh4p$[email hidden]... > > Hi David, > > > > at > > > > http://www.overclockersclub.com/windowsxpservices.shtml > > > > you'll find a tweaker's guide telling you which services to disable. > > > > At the time when I was testing XP I followed similar recommendations

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> > another source, and must say that for me, most of them didn't make a > > difference. > > > > However, there are a few that indeed should either be disabled or set up > > differently. > > > > For example the QoS reserves online bandwidth for the operating system, > > either even even if you disable it, or even if you set the bandwidth to

be > > reserved to 0, I forget which of the two. To avoid that you have toeither > > disable it or set the bandwidth reserved to 0, but unfortunately I don't > > remember which of the two options is the right one. You'll have to tryor > > read up on the issue. > > > > You should also make sure your swapfile has a fixed size (512MB is alarge

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> > enough value for most everything except huge audio or graphics > > manipulations). > > > > You should avoid XP calling home, like looking for updates for example. > > > > The system restore service is a candidate for disabling, as it may start > > trying to make backups while you're racing - under WinME this happened > often > > with GPL for me. The OS seemed to think that the system was idle while I > was > > racing :-) > > > > Achim > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3seQ8.301428$%[email hidden]... > > > Any links where I can find out what the various services do? > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:aenrkf$8grbh$[email hidden]... > > > > Not necessarily 3rd party stuff, I'm talking about XP's own

services. > Do > > > you > > > > know that several module of XP can call home as well in regular > > intervals, > > > > unless you tell them not to? And that XP limits your onlinebandwidth

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