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Sachsenring - An Appreciation

11 posts by 8 people · 16 Jun 2002 19:05 UTC - 18 Jun 2002 20:20 UTC

Steve Smith 16 Jun 2002 19:05 UTC#114530
What race fan in his right mind would harbor an affection for the former East Germany, a particularly drab Soviet satellite whose only claims to automotive fame (aside from the execrable--and much maligned--Trabbi) were the long-gone Veritas and EMW? Andre Streu and his pals "Renzani" and "Muelli," that's who. Andre has already given us three of the best-produced tracks in GPL: Halle (with its insanely dangerous light poles), Wegburg (a huge, Nazi-built "roval"), and beautiful Leipzig (with its perfectly-tended flower beds). Now Andre has outdone himself with the incredibly ambitious 5.43-mile, 26-turn Sachsenring, another East German venue (it was around from 1929 to 1990, latterly as a motorcycle track--Agostini held the lap record on a MV Agusta), and arguably the most interesting from a driver's point of view. It's got more dips, dives, swoops, swirls, crests, leaps and thank-you-m'ams than most rally stages, with top speeds rivalling Spa's, a couple of first-gear hairpins, and plenty of roller-coaster elevation changes. (Toy with those skyscraper ride-heights in the default setup at your peril.) Isle of Man, any one? But what's really incredible are the sheer quantity and quality of the road-side objects: an fanatically detailed collection of public and private architecture, structures and buildings, signage, telephone poles, spectators (whose the guy in the red T-shirt, Andre?), even a hidden stretch of railroad tracks and a lane of the Erfurt-Chemnitz (nee Karl-Marx-Stadt) autobahn. Going through the densely populated towns, you can see houses two blocks over! I've driven thru similar little towns in Germany, and believe me they look exactly like this. Even the skies overhead and the far horizons look totally authentic...and unique. Not only do become immersed in the feeling that this must a real place, not some sim-racer's wet dream, but the proximity of individually-rendered trees right at the edge of the road also gives you a frightening sense of speed. If strobing lights on Pikman episodes make you feel woozy, beware of the Sachsenring. And all this is done without wrecking the frame rate, either, even at 1200x1024 with all the 16-bit add-ons and the detail cranked up, although in replays with the whole field on-screen it does begin to stutter a bit on my mid-range 1.3-GHz T'bird. The Sachsenring probably won't be as popular online as Leipzig (it's narrow and fieldishly difficult to learn, much less master), but it's certainly "worth a detour," as they say in the Guide Michelin. Check it out on Magnus' excellent GP- tracks database: http://magnust.d2g.com/ --Steve Smith
Sorry, the first race was in '27, not '29. Full details at the Sachsenring website: http://www.cyberjeans.de/gpl/sachsenring/Sachsenring_uk.htm --Steve "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%j5P8.40942$[email hidden]... > What race fan in his right mind would harbor an affection for the former > East Germany, a particularly drab Soviet satellite whose only claims to > automotive fame (aside from the execrable--and much maligned--Trabbi) were > the long-gone Veritas and EMW? Andre Streu and his pals "Renzani" and > "Muelli," that's who. Andre has already given us three of thebest-produced > tracks in GPL: Halle (with its insanely dangerous light poles), Wegburg (a > huge, Nazi-built "roval"), and beautiful Leipzig (with itsperfectly-tended
Quoted text (7 lines)> flower beds). > > Now Andre has outdone himself with the incredibly ambitious 5.43-mile, > 26-turn Sachsenring, another East German venue (it was around from 1929 to > 1990, latterly as a motorcycle track--Agostini held the lap record on a MV > Agusta), and arguably the most interesting from a driver's point of view. > It's got more dips, dives, swoops, swirls, crests, leaps and
thank-you-m'ams
Quoted text (7 lines)> than most rally stages, with top speeds rivalling Spa's, a couple of > first-gear hairpins, and plenty of roller-coaster elevation changes. (Toy > with those skyscraper ride-heights in the default setup at your peril.) > Isle of Man, any one? > > But what's really incredible are the sheer quantity and quality of the > road-side objects: an fanatically detailed collection of public and
private > architecture, structures and buildings, signage, telephone poles,spectators > (whose the guy in the red T-shirt, Andre?), even a hidden stretch of > railroad tracks and a lane of the Erfurt-Chemnitz (nee Karl-Marx-Stadt) > autobahn. Going through the densely populated towns, you can see housestwo > blocks over! I've driven thru similar little towns in Germany, andbelieve > me they look exactly like this. Even the skies overhead and the far > horizons look totally authentic...and unique. > > Not only do become immersed in the feeling that this must a real place,not > some sim-racer's wet dream, but the proximity of individually-renderedtrees > right at the edge of the road also gives you a frightening sense of speed. > If strobing lights on Pikman episodes make you feel woozy, beware of the > Sachsenring. > > And all this is done without wrecking the frame rate, either, even at > 1200x1024 with all the 16-bit add-ons and the detail cranked up, althoughin > replays with the whole field on-screen it does begin to stutter a bit onmy > mid-range 1.3-GHz T'bird. > > The Sachsenring probably won't be as popular online as Leipzig (it'snarrow
Quoted text (11 lines)> and fieldishly difficult to learn, much less master), but it's certainly > "worth a detour," as they say in the Guide Michelin. Check it out on > Magnus' excellent GP- tracks database: > > http://magnust.d2g.com/ > > --Steve Smith > > > >
Beautiful looking track. David G Fisher "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%j5P8.40942$[email hidden]... > What race fan in his right mind would harbor an affection for the former > East Germany, a particularly drab Soviet satellite whose only claims to > automotive fame (aside from the execrable--and much maligned--Trabbi) were > the long-gone Veritas and EMW? Andre Streu and his pals "Renzani" and > "Muelli," that's who. Andre has already given us three of thebest-produced > tracks in GPL: Halle (with its insanely dangerous light poles), Wegburg (a > huge, Nazi-built "roval"), and beautiful Leipzig (with itsperfectly-tended
Quoted text (7 lines)> flower beds). > > Now Andre has outdone himself with the incredibly ambitious 5.43-mile, > 26-turn Sachsenring, another East German venue (it was around from 1929 to > 1990, latterly as a motorcycle track--Agostini held the lap record on a MV > Agusta), and arguably the most interesting from a driver's point of view. > It's got more dips, dives, swoops, swirls, crests, leaps and
thank-you-m'ams
Quoted text (7 lines)> than most rally stages, with top speeds rivalling Spa's, a couple of > first-gear hairpins, and plenty of roller-coaster elevation changes. (Toy > with those skyscraper ride-heights in the default setup at your peril.) > Isle of Man, any one? > > But what's really incredible are the sheer quantity and quality of the > road-side objects: an fanatically detailed collection of public and
private > architecture, structures and buildings, signage, telephone poles,spectators > (whose the guy in the red T-shirt, Andre?), even a hidden stretch of > railroad tracks and a lane of the Erfurt-Chemnitz (nee Karl-Marx-Stadt) > autobahn. Going through the densely populated towns, you can see housestwo > blocks over! I've driven thru similar little towns in Germany, andbelieve > me they look exactly like this. Even the skies overhead and the far > horizons look totally authentic...and unique. > > Not only do become immersed in the feeling that this must a real place,not > some sim-racer's wet dream, but the proximity of individually-renderedtrees > right at the edge of the road also gives you a frightening sense of speed. > If strobing lights on Pikman episodes make you feel woozy, beware of the > Sachsenring. > > And all this is done without wrecking the frame rate, either, even at > 1200x1024 with all the 16-bit add-ons and the detail cranked up, althoughin > replays with the whole field on-screen it does begin to stutter a bit onmy > mid-range 1.3-GHz T'bird. > > The Sachsenring probably won't be as popular online as Leipzig (it'snarrow
Quoted text (11 lines)> and fieldishly difficult to learn, much less master), but it's certainly > "worth a detour," as they say in the Guide Michelin. Check it out on > Magnus' excellent GP- tracks database: > > http://magnust.d2g.com/ > > --Steve Smith > > > >
INCREDIBLE track. Better than anything I've ever seen for GPL. - David Cook "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%j5P8.40942$[email hidden]... > What race fan in his right mind would harbor an affection for the former > East Germany, a particularly drab Soviet satellite whose only claims to > automotive fame (aside from the execrable--and much maligned--Trabbi) were > the long-gone Veritas and EMW? Andre Streu and his pals "Renzani" and > "Muelli," that's who. Andre has already given us three of thebest-produced > tracks in GPL: Halle (with its insanely dangerous light poles), Wegburg (a > huge, Nazi-built "roval"), and beautiful Leipzig (with itsperfectly-tended
Quoted text (7 lines)> flower beds). > > Now Andre has outdone himself with the incredibly ambitious 5.43-mile, > 26-turn Sachsenring, another East German venue (it was around from 1929 to > 1990, latterly as a motorcycle track--Agostini held the lap record on a MV > Agusta), and arguably the most interesting from a driver's point of view. > It's got more dips, dives, swoops, swirls, crests, leaps and
thank-you-m'ams
Quoted text (7 lines)> than most rally stages, with top speeds rivalling Spa's, a couple of > first-gear hairpins, and plenty of roller-coaster elevation changes. (Toy > with those skyscraper ride-heights in the default setup at your peril.) > Isle of Man, any one? > > But what's really incredible are the sheer quantity and quality of the > road-side objects: an fanatically detailed collection of public and
private > architecture, structures and buildings, signage, telephone poles,spectators > (whose the guy in the red T-shirt, Andre?), even a hidden stretch of > railroad tracks and a lane of the Erfurt-Chemnitz (nee Karl-Marx-Stadt) > autobahn. Going through the densely populated towns, you can see housestwo > blocks over! I've driven thru similar little towns in Germany, andbelieve > me they look exactly like this. Even the skies overhead and the far > horizons look totally authentic...and unique. > > Not only do become immersed in the feeling that this must a real place,not > some sim-racer's wet dream, but the proximity of individually-renderedtrees > right at the edge of the road also gives you a frightening sense of speed. > If strobing lights on Pikman episodes make you feel woozy, beware of the > Sachsenring. > > And all this is done without wrecking the frame rate, either, even at > 1200x1024 with all the 16-bit add-ons and the detail cranked up, althoughin > replays with the whole field on-screen it does begin to stutter a bit onmy > mid-range 1.3-GHz T'bird. > > The Sachsenring probably won't be as popular online as Leipzig (it'snarrow
Quoted text (12 lines)> and fieldishly difficult to learn, much less master), but it's certainly > "worth a detour," as they say in the Guide Michelin. Check it out on > Magnus' excellent GP- tracks database: > > http://magnust.d2g.com/ > > --Steve Smith > > > > >
Ah, crap. I guess I gotta install GPL again :) -Larry "David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:i4aP8.2390$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)> INCREDIBLE track. Better than anything I've ever seen for GPL. > > - David Cook > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%j5P8.40942$[email hidden]... > > What race fan in his right mind would harbor an affection for the former > > East Germany, a particularly drab Soviet satellite whose only claims to > > automotive fame (aside from the execrable--and much maligned--Trabbi)
were > > the long-gone Veritas and EMW? Andre Streu and his pals "Renzani" and > > "Muelli," that's who. Andre has already given us three of the > best-produced > > tracks in GPL: Halle (with its insanely dangerous light poles), Wegburg(a > > huge, Nazi-built "roval"), and beautiful Leipzig (with its > perfectly-tended > > flower beds). > > > > Now Andre has outdone himself with the incredibly ambitious 5.43-mile, > > 26-turn Sachsenring, another East German venue (it was around from 1929to > > 1990, latterly as a motorcycle track--Agostini held the lap record on aMV > > Agusta), and arguably the most interesting from a driver's point ofview. > > It's got more dips, dives, swoops, swirls, crests, leaps and > thank-you-m'ams > > than most rally stages, with top speeds rivalling Spa's, a couple of > > first-gear hairpins, and plenty of roller-coaster elevation changes.(Toy
Quoted text (22 lines)> > with those skyscraper ride-heights in the default setup at your peril.) > > Isle of Man, any one? > > > > But what's really incredible are the sheer quantity and quality of the > > road-side objects: an fanatically detailed collection of public and > private > > architecture, structures and buildings, signage, telephone poles, > spectators > > (whose the guy in the red T-shirt, Andre?), even a hidden stretch of > > railroad tracks and a lane of the Erfurt-Chemnitz (nee Karl-Marx-Stadt) > > autobahn. Going through the densely populated towns, you can see houses > two > > blocks over! I've driven thru similar little towns in Germany, and > believe > > me they look exactly like this. Even the skies overhead and the far > > horizons look totally authentic...and unique. > > > > Not only do become immersed in the feeling that this must a real place, > not > > some sim-racer's wet dream, but the proximity of individually-rendered > trees > > right at the edge of the road also gives you a frightening sense of
speed. > > If strobing lights on Pikman episodes make you feel woozy, beware of the > > Sachsenring. > > > > And all this is done without wrecking the frame rate, either, even at > > 1200x1024 with all the 16-bit add-ons and the detail cranked up,although
Quoted text (21 lines)> in > > replays with the whole field on-screen it does begin to stutter a bit on > my > > mid-range 1.3-GHz T'bird. > > > > The Sachsenring probably won't be as popular online as Leipzig (it's > narrow > > and fieldishly difficult to learn, much less master), but it's certainly > > "worth a detour," as they say in the Guide Michelin. Check it out on > > Magnus' excellent GP- tracks database: > > > > http://magnust.d2g.com/ > > > > --Steve Smith > > > > > > > > > > > >
ymenard 17 Jun 2002 03:51 UTC↳ reply to Larry#114413
>"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote > Ah, crap. I guess I gotta install GPL again :) The question is why did you uninstall GPL before? ;-) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
Nick 17 Jun 2002 17:46 UTC↳ reply to ymenard#114384
"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L0dP8.780$[email hidden]... > >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Ah, crap. I guess I gotta install GPL again :) > > The question is why did you uninstall GPL before? ;-) Maybe his hard disk exploded from playing too much GPL... and he never installed GPL on his new one in case it happened again. Just maybe....
Larry 17 Jun 2002 21:00 UTC↳ reply to ymenard#114326
Reloads, trying to solve my NR2002 OGL lockups :( -Larry "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L0dP8.780$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Ah, crap. I guess I gotta install GPL again :) > > The question is why did you uninstall GPL before? ;-) > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >
ymenard 18 Jun 2002 01:05 UTC↳ reply to Larry#114208
>"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote > Reloads, trying to solve my NR2002 OGL lockups :( Oh so you're another one of us eh :-/ I'm been screwed all along with the Kyro II and NR2002. The demo 3d configuration.exe of NR2002 worked perfectly, but they changed something in the final version and it's impossible for it to test my graphics. It takes about 30 minutes to do it, either in D3D or OGL. Anyway, inside the sim, OGL doesn't work and I was forced to write some stuff from the ini of the demo in the ini of the final game. I don't even know if they are optimised, but hey I was *never* able to make it work so I can't say. They never fixed it. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
David G Fisher wrote: > > Beautiful looking track. > > David G Fisher > > <snip> Have not been able to d/l yet. But it must be great. Andre's Leipzig track was the first track that made me think that I was virtual and the track was real! arcman
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 02:50:33 -0400, Christopher G Rossie <[email hidden]> wrote: >Have not been able to d/l yet. But it must be great. >Andre's Leipzig track was the first track that made >me think that I was virtual and the track was real! >arcman Just download Sachsenring asap.. it's simply the best track ever made for GPL. Andre

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