Interesting Poll...

..... at nascar.com Which track would you like to see get a Winston Cup date? Gateway Kentucky Memphis Milwaukee Nashville Nazareth Pikes Peak Could convert it to "what track do you miss driving/like to see made for N2002" ? for here...

> Could convert it to "what track do you miss driving/like to see made for > N2002" ? for here... Elkhart Lake Doug

How about: Elkhart Lake Road Atlanta Mid-Ohio Lime Rock Laguna Seca Mosport Ste. Jovite Montreal Sebring V.I.R. Monterrey Los Hermanos i.e., the only natural-terrain major road courses left in N. America. Combined with the two tracks, Sears and the Glen, already in use, plus a judicious selection of *unnatural* terrain road courses, like Cleveland and some ovals' infields, would make a pretty nice Pan-American Road Racing Championship for our fender-bending brethren. "Lagwagon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:afhhh6$bck$[email hidden]...

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> ..... at nascar.com > > Which track would you like to see get a Winston Cup date? > > Gateway > > Kentucky > > Memphis > > Milwaukee > > Nashville > > Nazareth > > Pikes Peak > > Could convert it to "what track do you miss driving/like to see made for > N2002" ? for here... > > > >

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> How about: > > Elkhart Lake > Road Atlanta > Mid-Ohio > Lime Rock > Laguna Seca > Mosport > Ste. Jovite > Montreal > Sebring > V.I.R. > Monterrey > Los Hermanos

Remove the pig iron, the body work - add front and rear wings. Hellloooooooooooooooooo Cart sim. but no. Doug

In order for both a Cup date and NR2002 track 1. Nashville Speedway 2. Memphis 3a. Milwaukee 3b. Pikes Peak 3c. Nazareth 6. Gateway 7. Kentucky The 3s could come in any real order and I'd still be happy. MadDAWG

How about none of those. It's a NASCAR sim so why would we want these tracks :) "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JxYS8.64025$[email hidden]...

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> How about: > > Elkhart Lake > Road Atlanta > Mid-Ohio > Lime Rock > Laguna Seca > Mosport > Ste. Jovite > Montreal > Sebring > V.I.R. > Monterrey > Los Hermanos > > i.e., the only natural-terrain major road courses left in N. America. > Combined with the two tracks, Sears and the Glen, already in use, plus a > judicious selection of *unnatural* terrain road courses, like Cleveland

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> some ovals' infields, would make a pretty nice Pan-American Road Racing > Championship for our fender-bending brethren. > > "Lagwagon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:afhhh6$bck$[email hidden]... > > ..... at nascar.com > > > > Which track would you like to see get a Winston Cup date? > > > > Gateway > > > > Kentucky > > > > Memphis > > > > Milwaukee > > > > Nashville > > > > Nazareth > > > > Pikes Peak > > > > Could convert it to "what track do you miss driving/like to see made for > > N2002" ? for here... > > > > > > > > > >

Kentucky Kerry "Lagwagon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:afhhh6$bck$[email hidden]...

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> ..... at nascar.com > > Which track would you like to see get a Winston Cup date? > > Gateway > > Kentucky > > Memphis > > Milwaukee > > Nashville > > Nazareth > > Pikes Peak > > Could convert it to "what track do you miss driving/like to see made for > N2002" ? for here... > > > >

Agreed. John "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HcZS8.30696$[email hidden]...

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> How about none of those. It's a NASCAR sim so why would we want these > tracks :) > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JxYS8.64025$[email hidden]... > > How about: > > > > Elkhart Lake > > Road Atlanta > > Mid-Ohio > > Lime Rock > > Laguna Seca > > Mosport > > Ste. Jovite > > Montreal > > Sebring > > V.I.R. > > Monterrey > > Los Hermanos > > > > i.e., the only natural-terrain major road courses left in N. America. > > Combined with the two tracks, Sears and the Glen, already in use, plus a > > judicious selection of *unnatural* terrain road courses, like Cleveland > and > > some ovals' infields, would make a pretty nice Pan-American Road Racing > > Championship for our fender-bending brethren. > > > > "Lagwagon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:afhhh6$bck$[email hidden]... > > > ..... at nascar.com > > > > > > Which track would you like to see get a Winston Cup date? > > > > > > Gateway > > > > > > Kentucky > > > > > > Memphis > > > > > > Milwaukee > > > > > > Nashville > > > > > > Nazareth > > > > > > Pikes Peak > > > > > > Could convert it to "what track do you miss driving/like to see made

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Assuming they're talking about the new Nashville, my vote goes to Memphis. John "Lagwagon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:afhhh6$bck$[email hidden]...

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> ..... at nascar.com > > Which track would you like to see get a Winston Cup date? > > Gateway > > Kentucky > > Memphis > > Milwaukee > > Nashville > > Nazareth > > Pikes Peak > > Could convert it to "what track do you miss driving/like to see made for > N2002" ? for here... > > > >

"John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Agreed. > > John So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Clermont Ferrand, etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they didnt race on any of those Doug

Personally no, since I don't play GPL :) "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:afhsfa$ebhkj$[email hidden]...

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> > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Agreed. > > > > John > > So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Clermont

Ferrand, > etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they didntrace > on any of those > > Doug > >

"Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JG_S8.30729$[email hidden]... > Personally no, since I don't play GPL :) You see my point though Doug

Nashville. I LOVE that track. It's wide, and even in pick-up races it was always a good place to race and escape with fenders intact. -Larry "Lagwagon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:afhhh6$bck$[email hidden]...

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> ..... at nascar.com > > Which track would you like to see get a Winston Cup date? > > Gateway > > Kentucky > > Memphis > > Milwaukee > > Nashville > > Nazareth > > Pikes Peak > > Could convert it to "what track do you miss driving/like to see made for > N2002" ? for here... > > > >

My vote is for the OLD Nashville. -Larry "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Assuming they're talking about the new Nashville, my vote goes toMemphis.

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> > John > > > "Lagwagon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:afhhh6$bck$[email hidden]... > > ..... at nascar.com > > > > Which track would you like to see get a Winston Cup date? > > > > Gateway > > > > Kentucky > > > > Memphis > > > > Milwaukee > > > > Nashville > > > > Nazareth > > > > Pikes Peak > > > > Could convert it to "what track do you miss driving/like to see made for > > N2002" ? for here... > > > > > > > > > >

"Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JG_S8.30729$[email hidden]... > Personally no, since I don't play GPL :) > Blasphemer !!!!!!!! Heretic !!!!!!! Burn the Heretic!!!!!!!!!

We already have that for the game :) As much as I love short tracks the 43 car field of NASCAr is just too many for 1/2 milers. I kinda hope that NASCAR has more problems filling fields so that they go back to 36 cars like it use to be. The thing I'd be most curious about the Nashville Speedway is being 1-1/3 miles if it would keep from becoming a fuel mileage race. I'm getting real tired of that. Also the concrete surface is a nice variable as well. MadDAWG

>"Lagwagon" <[email hidden]> wrote > GatewayIt was a great track for racing back on the NROS. I miss it. Shame on not buying the rights for BGN tracks. > KentuckyDon't care much about it. Prefer shorter tracks. > MemphisAverage. > MilwaukeeYES! > NashvilleAfter converting it to NR2002, it's just not as fun. > NazarethBEST. TRACK. EVER. > Pikes PeakI find it boring. > Could convert it to "what track do you miss driving/like to see made for > N2002" ? for here... -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Not really. If they were stock car related tracks then perhaps but adding tracks that stock cars do not run on makes little sense to me. "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:afi2gr$ekk7c$[email hidden]...

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> > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JG_S8.30729$[email hidden]... > > Personally no, since I don't play GPL :) > > You see my point though > > Doug > > >

Dunno abt. you, but ovals bore me to death. I'm not that fond of NASCAR's Flintstone technology, either, but *any* road racing is better than droning round 'n' round in a traffic jam. Besides, stockers have done pretty well on road courses over the years...including Riverside, Bridgehampton, Le Mans, etc. Open another can o' Whup-Ass and call me in the morning. "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HcZS8.30696$[email hidden]...

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> How about none of those. It's a NASCAR sim so why would we want these > tracks :) > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JxYS8.64025$[email hidden]... > > How about: > > > > Elkhart Lake > > Road Atlanta > > Mid-Ohio > > Lime Rock > > Laguna Seca > > Mosport > > Ste. Jovite > > Montreal > > Sebring > > V.I.R. > > Monterrey > > Los Hermanos > > > > i.e., the only natural-terrain major road courses left in N. America. > > Combined with the two tracks, Sears and the Glen, already in use, plus a > > judicious selection of *unnatural* terrain road courses, like Cleveland > and > > some ovals' infields, would make a pretty nice Pan-American Road Racing > > Championship for our fender-bending brethren. > > > > "Lagwagon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:afhhh6$bck$[email hidden]... > > > ..... at nascar.com > > > > > > Which track would you like to see get a Winston Cup date? > > > > > > Gateway > > > > > > Kentucky > > > > > > Memphis > > > > > > Milwaukee > > > > > > Nashville > > > > > > Nazareth > > > > > > Pikes Peak > > > > > > Could convert it to "what track do you miss driving/like to see made

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Sure I do. The point for me is, it's not an open-wheel, road course series, so I don't care if there's any road courses in it. Apples to oranges compared to the GPL examples. And fwiw, I like running the stockers on road courses, but prefer what their forte is, and it ain't road courses <G> John "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:afhsfa$ebhkj$[email hidden]...

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> > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Agreed. > > > > John > > So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Clermont

Ferrand, > etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they didntrace > on any of those > > Doug > >

Yep, add me too. John "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:WW0T8.86244$[email hidden]...

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> My vote is for the OLD Nashville. > > -Larry > > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Assuming they're talking about the new Nashville, my vote goes to > Memphis. > > > > John > > > > > > "Lagwagon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:afhhh6$bck$[email hidden]... > > > ..... at nascar.com > > > > > > Which track would you like to see get a Winston Cup date? > > > > > > Gateway > > > > > > Kentucky > > > > > > Memphis > > > > > > Milwaukee > > > > > > Nashville > > > > > > Nazareth > > > > > > Pikes Peak > > > > > > Could convert it to "what track do you miss driving/like to see made

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Exactly. Why try to make the sim something it is not. "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Sure I do. The point for me is, it's not an open-wheel, road course > series, so I don't care if there's any road courses in it. > Apples to oranges compared to the GPL examples. > > And fwiw, I like running the stockers on road courses, but prefer what > their forte is, and it ain't road courses <G> > > John > > > "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:afhsfa$ebhkj$[email hidden]... > > > > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Agreed. > > > > > > John > > > > So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Clermont > Ferrand, > > etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they didnt > race > > on any of those > > > > Doug > > > > > >

"Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:afhsfa$ebhkj$[email hidden]...

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> > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Agreed. > > > > John > > So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Clermont

Ferrand, > etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they didntrace > on any of those > > Doug > Well since we HAVE versions of those...for GPL, wouldn't it be nice to have OTHER tracks that we don't have yet.??? Flat airfield club circuits or twisting undulating tracks like Mid Ohio....The single biggest problem with sim racing...THAT track should be updated well beyond the weak ICR2 clone we have had for years.... dave henrie

Steve Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Vp5T8.66340$[email hidden]... > Dunno abt. you, but ovals bore me to death. I'm not that fond of NASCAR's > Flintstone technology, either, but *any* road racing is better than droning > round 'n' round in a traffic jam. Besides, stockers have done pretty well > on road courses over the years...including Riverside, Bridgehampton, Le > Mans, etc. Open another can o' Whup-Ass and call me in the morning. <snip> Spoken (written don't sound right) like a true late '60s, anti-NASCAR, Manney & Yates (Brock, that is) lovin' snob! :o) DGF wants more confrontation, & while for a long time I resisted speaking (writing, sending, posting, etc) my 2 cents, I've now seen the light. <grin> Brian (gonna have 'nother beer) P.S. By the way, loved yer ICR2 & GPL guides, thx.

Uh, because people like running on road courses? I, and dozens of others, are looking forward to Dave Noonan's full converter for N2002. People forget that outside of the United States it's more common to run 1.5 ton v-8 full bodied cars on road courses than it is on ovals. Jason On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:10:52 -0300, "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Exactly. Why try to make the sim something it is not. > >"John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Sure I do. The point for me is, it's not an open-wheel, road course >> series, so I don't care if there's any road courses in it. >> Apples to oranges compared to the GPL examples. >> >> And fwiw, I like running the stockers on road courses, but prefer what >> their forte is, and it ain't road courses <G> >> >> John >> >> >> "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:afhsfa$ebhkj$[email hidden]... >> > >> > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > news:[email hidden]... >> > > Agreed. >> > > >> > > John >> > >> > So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Clermont >> Ferrand, >> > etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they didnt >> race >> > on any of those >> > >> > Doug >> > >> > >> >> > >

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 01:38:36 GMT, "B.Farmer" <[email hidden]> wrote: >P.S. By the way, loved yer ICR2 & GPL guides, thx. I send Steve at least 3 emails a day professing my adoration for his guides, but alas, my fanaticism goes unrewarded. We need a new non-NASCAR sim so we can get another kickass guide. Those 2 books are the best toilet reading ever, too. Jason

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:41:08 -0400, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> Nazareth >BEST. TRACK. EVER. It's no Pocono, but it's definitely the second best oval in Pennsylvania. :) I'd like to have Vancouver and Long Beach for N2002, myself. A Monaco conversion would rock too, or the CART Detroit circuit. Call me sadistic, but the thought of hurtling those beasts through narrow streets against 30 other people makes me drool. If only we could get F1 to move to Long Beach again... Jason

Yeah, but then those same people bitch about what pigs the stockers are on them <G> John "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Uh, because people like running on road courses? > > I, and dozens of others, are looking forward to Dave Noonan's full > converter for N2002. > > People forget that outside of the United States it's more common to > run 1.5 ton v-8 full bodied cars on road courses than it is on ovals. > > Jason > > On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:10:52 -0300, "Schooner" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Exactly. Why try to make the sim something it is not. > > > >"John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> Sure I do. The point for me is, it's not an open-wheel, road course > >> series, so I don't care if there's any road courses in it. > >> Apples to oranges compared to the GPL examples. > >> > >> And fwiw, I like running the stockers on road courses, but prefer

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> >> their forte is, and it ain't road courses <G> > >> > >> John > >> > >> > >> "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:afhsfa$ebhkj$[email hidden]... > >> > > >> > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> > news:[email hidden]... > >> > > Agreed. > >> > > > >> > > John > >> > > >> > So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Clermont > >> Ferrand, > >> > etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they

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Don't look at me, I'll drive anything on a roadie. :) Not very well mind you, but driving by myself ahead of all you slowpokes on ovals gets boring after awhile, and sometimes I like seeing a pack of cars in front of me. :) Jason On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:59:14 -0600, "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Yeah, but then those same people bitch about what pigs the stockers are on >them <G> > >John > > >"jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Uh, because people like running on road courses? >> >> I, and dozens of others, are looking forward to Dave Noonan's full >> converter for N2002. >> >> People forget that outside of the United States it's more common to >> run 1.5 ton v-8 full bodied cars on road courses than it is on ovals. >> >> Jason >> >> On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:10:52 -0300, "Schooner" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >Exactly. Why try to make the sim something it is not. >> > >> >"John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >news:[email hidden]... >> >> Sure I do. The point for me is, it's not an open-wheel, road course >> >> series, so I don't care if there's any road courses in it. >> >> Apples to oranges compared to the GPL examples. >> >> >> >> And fwiw, I like running the stockers on road courses, but prefer >what >> >> their forte is, and it ain't road courses <G> >> >> >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >> news:afhsfa$ebhkj$[email hidden]... >> >> > >> >> > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >> > news:[email hidden]... >> >> > > Agreed. >> >> > > >> >> > > John >> >> > >> >> > So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Clermont >> >> Ferrand, >> >> > etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they >didnt >> >> race >> >> > on any of those >> >> > >> >> > Doug >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >

Lol, now we're talkin' ! John "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Don't look at me, I'll drive anything on a roadie. :) > > Not very well mind you, but driving by myself ahead of all you > slowpokes on ovals gets boring after awhile, and sometimes I like > seeing a pack of cars in front of me. :) > > Jason > > On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:59:14 -0600, "John Pancoast" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > Yeah, but then those same people bitch about what pigs the stockers are

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> >them <G> > > > >John > > > > > >"jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> Uh, because people like running on road courses? > >> > >> I, and dozens of others, are looking forward to Dave Noonan's full > >> converter for N2002. > >> > >> People forget that outside of the United States it's more common to > >> run 1.5 ton v-8 full bodied cars on road courses than it is on ovals. > >> > >> Jason > >> > >> On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:10:52 -0300, "Schooner" > >> <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> > >> >Exactly. Why try to make the sim something it is not. > >> > > >> >"John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> >news:[email hidden]... > >> >> Sure I do. The point for me is, it's not an open-wheel, road

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> >> >> series, so I don't care if there's any road courses in it. > >> >> Apples to oranges compared to the GPL examples. > >> >> > >> >> And fwiw, I like running the stockers on road courses, but prefer > >what > >> >> their forte is, and it ain't road courses <G> > >> >> > >> >> John > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> >> news:afhsfa$ebhkj$[email hidden]... > >> >> > > >> >> > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> >> > news:[email hidden]... > >> >> > > Agreed. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > John > >> >> > > >> >> > So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton,

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> >> >> Ferrand, > >> >> > etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they > >didnt > >> >> race > >> >> > on any of those > >> >> > > >> >> > Doug > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > >

Yer welcome! "B.Farmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wc8T8.658$[email hidden]... > Steve Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Vp5T8.66340$[email hidden]... > > Dunno abt. you, but ovals bore me to death. I'm not that fond ofNASCAR's > > Flintstone technology, either, but *any* road racing is better thandroning > > round 'n' round in a traffic jam. Besides, stockers have done prettywell > > on road courses over the years...including Riverside, Bridgehampton, Le > > Mans, etc. Open another can o' Whup-Ass and call me in the morning. > > <snip> > > Spoken (written don't sound right) like a true late '60s, anti-NASCAR,Manney & > Yates (Brock, that is) lovin' snob! :o) > > DGF wants more confrontation, & while for a long time I resisted speaking > (writing, sending, posting, etc) my 2 cents, I've now seen the light.<grin>

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> > Brian > (gonna have 'nother beer) > > P.S. By the way, loved yer ICR2 & GPL guides, thx. > >

Thanks (blush). "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 01:38:36 GMT, "B.Farmer" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >P.S. By the way, loved yer ICR2 & GPL guides, thx. > > I send Steve at least 3 emails a day professing my adoration for his > guides, but alas, my fanaticism goes unrewarded. We need a new > non-NASCAR sim so we can get another kickass guide. > > Those 2 books are the best toilet reading ever, too. > > Jason >

In article <afhhh6$bck$[email hidden]>, "Lagwagon" <[email hidden]> writes: >Could convert it to "what track do you miss driving/like to see made for >N2002" ? for here... Laguna Seca...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (jason moyer) writes: >I'd like to have Vancouver and Long Beach for N2002, myself. >A Monaco conversion would rock too, or the CART Detroit circuit. Call >me sadistic, but the thought of hurtling those beasts through narrow >streets against 30 other people makes me drool. I'm from Detroit, but I can't STAND that track in a car without wings. Indycar, IRL, fine. 1967 cars or Nascar? Fugedaboutit... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <6E3T8.30798$[email hidden]>, "Schooner" <[email hidden]> writes: >Not really. If they were stock car related tracks then perhaps but adding >tracks that stock cars do not run on makes little sense to me. They hadn't run on ANY of them until the first race.<G> You gotta start somewhere... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (jason moyer) writes: >Those 2 books are the best toilet reading ever, too. I'm sure THAT gives his life meaning...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>1. Nashville Speedway >2. Memphis >3a. Milwaukee >3b. Pikes Peak >3c. Nazareth >6. Gateway >7. Kentucky > >The 3s could come in any real order and I'd still be happy.

Damn - Nazareth is too narrow for an INDY car! I can't imagine running NASCAR there... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> > >Those 2 books are the best toilet reading ever, too. > > I'm sure THAT gives his life meaning...<g> > > Eldred Hey! Here's my chance to combine two different threads into one. I saw in some racing catalog today that for a puny $125(us funds) you can have a shiny black Carbon Fibre toilet seat/cover. If you are gonna be reading about simracing, you might as well have a proper throne. dave henrie