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logitech momo vs. msff wheel

5 posts by 5 people · 01 Jul 2002 14:04 UTC - 02 Jul 2002 01:05 UTC

Brian Bowles 01 Jul 2002 14:04 UTC#111273
I currently have a micorosoft ff wheel. How much better is the logitech momo wheel to those of you who have had both of these. I think I am about to buy one. My microsoft wheel has been fine, but I do dont think it was ever as good as my red logitech wheel. I just want some opinions. Also are the pedals better than the old pedals from the logitech red wheel? Stiff springs or more throw? Thanks!!!
"Brian Bowles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b7ZT8.22345$[email hidden]... > I currently have a micorosoft ff wheel. How much better is the logitechmomo > wheel to those of you who have had both of these. Well - I have an MSFF sat beside my desk, the Momo ON my desk. Wheel - the Momo wheel is a lot nice imho - just a better feel - better FF - more accurate somehow. As for the pedals - I used Speed 7's - but before they arrived I used the MSFF still attached to the machine just to use it's pedals with the Momo wheel - who's pedals are tucked up againast the wall. I found them truely horrid. For the plastic-brigade - the MSFF pedals are probably as good as it gets Doug
I have a 2 year old MSFFW that is still in flawless condition after 2 years of heavy use. I purchased a Momo for the same reason you are considering, to maybe get something better. Well, the wheel is indeed a bit better. It's too early to answer the reliability question, but it is a bit more precise, has better shifters, etc... Many, including myself, have trouble with the buttons. They are a lot harder to reach and after using a MSFFW for 2 years + it takes a lot of practice to get it right. Now for the bad news. The Pedals. The pedals on the Momo are totally horrible. Just a completely botched design. The throw is too short, the swivel angles are all wrong, the thrust angles are all wrong, and they stick like crazy sometimes. Also, the cord coming up from the pedals to the wheel is too short for a lot of folks I've talked to. If you drive a Tractor for a living, and have small feet, you might like them :) The Momo I bought lasted on my desk for 1 day. Since then, it was put back in the box with about 3 hours use on it and the MSFFW has been put back into service. The Momo is still in the box as an emergency set, or until I find someone locally to buy it. This isn't the first time I've bought a new wheel/pedal set to 'upgrade' from the MSFFW, where the new one didn't last any time and the MSFFW always ends up back on the desk. I finally decided that this was trying to tell me something, and I just forgot about replacing it. Been happy every since I quit thinking about it :) -Larry "Brian Bowles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b7ZT8.22345$[email hidden]... > I currently have a micorosoft ff wheel. How much better is the logitechmomo > wheel to those of you who have had both of these. I think I am about tobuy > one. My microsoft wheel has been fine, but I do dont think it was ever as > good as my red logitech wheel. I just want some opinions. Also are the > pedals better than the old pedals from the logitech red wheel? Stiffsprings > or more throw? > Thanks!!! > > >
"Brian Bowles" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding news:b7ZT8.22345$[email hidden]... > I currently have a micorosoft ff wheel. How much better is the logitechmomo > wheel to those of you who have had both of these. I think I am about tobuy > one. My microsoft wheel has been fine, but I do dont think it was ever as > good as my red logitech wheel. I just want some opinions. Also are the > pedals better than the old pedals from the logitech red wheel? Stiffsprings > or more throw? > Thanks!!! If you're MSFF isn't broken, don't buy the MOMO. I bought the MOMO, after my MSFF brake pedal broke during a full GP race in GPL at Silverstone (%�#"%�!). The MOMO has made GPL less fun :-( The wheel is fine. It is better than the MSFF. It simply just feels more right. I guess it's got more precision. But the pedals.... MOMO pedals are inferior to the MSFF pedals. Somehow Logitech figured that pivoting pedals would outweigh the disadvantagages of short pedal travel. Why didn't they think of increasing pedal travel instead? The pivoting pedals are hard to get used to, at least if your racing without shoes. The pedals of the MOMO are really bad. It's a shame, really - 'cause the wheel itself is superb. The only ones that probably are very happy with MOMO pedals, are BRM. They probably sold a lot of Speed 7 pedals to frustrated MOMO owners. Jon Andersen
The MOMO wheel is so superior to other wheels, it's worth it to find a better pedal set. I'm using the TSW pedals (with the MOMO pedal pads) and the combination is flawless. There are other pedals that will either work outta the box with the MOMO (in a separate ID) or can easily be incorporated into the MOMO circuitry. It's possible just to remove the MOMO pots and insert them into another pedal set (like, say, the BRD). A little tweaking (with Registry values if yer brave, DXTweak2 if your not) and away you go. My MOMO/TSW combo is the first FF setup that's been faster than my old, reliable ECCI. --Steve Smith "Jon Andersen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JF2U8.8481$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> > "Brian Bowles" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding > news:b7ZT8.22345$[email hidden]... > > I currently have a micorosoft ff wheel. How much better is the logitech > momo > > wheel to those of you who have had both of these. I think I am about to > buy > > one. My microsoft wheel has been fine, but I do dont think it was ever
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Quoted text (7 lines)> > good as my red logitech wheel. I just want some opinions. Also are the > > pedals better than the old pedals from the logitech red wheel? Stiff > springs > > or more throw? > > Thanks!!! > > If you're MSFF isn't broken, don't buy the MOMO. I bought the MOMO, after
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Quoted text (12 lines)> MSFF brake pedal broke during a full GP race in GPL at Silverstone > (%�#"%�!). The MOMO has made GPL less fun :-( > > The wheel is fine. It is better than the MSFF. It simply just feels more > right. I guess it's got more precision. But the pedals.... MOMO pedals are > inferior to the MSFF pedals. Somehow Logitech figured that pivoting pedals > would outweigh the disadvantagages of short pedal travel. Why didn't they > think of increasing pedal travel instead? The pivoting pedals are hard to > get used to, at least if your racing without shoes. > > The pedals of the MOMO are really bad. It's a shame, really - 'cause the > wheel itself is superb. The only ones that probably are very happy with
MOMO > pedals, are BRM. They probably sold a lot of Speed 7 pedals to frustrated > MOMO owners. > > Jon Andersen >

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