Logitech Formula Force (older one) on WinXP

Recently upgraded my PC - having trouble getting a driver for the LWFF using WIndows XP. I'm running version 4.11.32 of the WIngman software, whilst the wheel will work in a game, it only does so if its the only controller connected. (If I use the profiler to switch to the LWFF with a FF joystick also connected, the game always seems to pick up the Joystick - despite the wheel being selected in the profiler) At the Logitech site, I can only find a driver for the "Formula Force GP" (the newer one). Any ideas? Cheers Steve

Probably because the stick wants joystick ID #1 and pushes the wheel to #2. Look if there's a "2nd page" in the calibration screen and calibrate as normal in the 2nd page of axes. I do believe there are new beta wingman drivers out as well - 4.20. Willard. "SteveCD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Recently upgraded my PC - having trouble getting > a driver for the LWFF using WIndows XP. > > I'm running version 4.11.32 of the WIngman software, > whilst the wheel will work in a game, it only does > so if its the only controller connected. (If I use > the profiler to switch to the LWFF with a FF joystick > also connected, the game always seems to pick up the > Joystick - despite the wheel being selected in the > profiler) > > At the Logitech site, I can only find a driver for > the "Formula Force GP" (the newer one). > > Any ideas? > > Cheers > > Steve

im having the same hastle too cause i want to use my logitec ff wheel as joystick 1 and my usb game pad as number 2 but the game pad always defaults to joystick 1 in windows xp in win 98 etc... you could change the ids to what you wanted but not in windows xp so any help would be much apreciated cause some of my racing games only look for joystick one so i have to delete my game pad from the control panel to run my racing games and then add it agian if i need to play game pad games ...very frustrating thanx in advance Brenden [email hidden] "SteveCD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Recently upgraded my PC - having trouble getting > a driver for the LWFF using WIndows XP. > > I'm running version 4.11.32 of the WIngman software, > whilst the wheel will work in a game, it only does > so if its the only controller connected. (If I use > the profiler to switch to the LWFF with a FF joystick > also connected, the game always seems to pick up the > Joystick - despite the wheel being selected in the > profiler) > > At the Logitech site, I can only find a driver for > the "Formula Force GP" (the newer one). > > Any ideas? > > Cheers > > Steve

Get the newest drivers here: http://www.wingmanteam.com I run the old red LWFF on XP, no problem. Keith. ------------ On 1 Jul 2002 04:56:27 -0700, [email hidden] (SteveCD) wrote:

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>Recently upgraded my PC - having trouble getting >a driver for the LWFF using WIndows XP. > >I'm running version 4.11.32 of the WIngman software, >whilst the wheel will work in a game, it only does >so if its the only controller connected. (If I use >the profiler to switch to the LWFF with a FF joystick >also connected, the game always seems to pick up the >Joystick - despite the wheel being selected in the >profiler) > >At the Logitech site, I can only find a driver for >the "Formula Force GP" (the newer one). > >Any ideas? > >Cheers > >Steve

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Keith what do you put the ff on? I had mine set to 150% and it would not work right. The guys at the wingman team at the time told me there was a bug in the code that might be fixed later. Maybe it has been fixed now? Brian Bowles <keith> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Get the newest drivers here: > > http://www.wingmanteam.com > > I run the old red LWFF on XP, no problem. > > Keith. > > ------------ > > On 1 Jul 2002 04:56:27 -0700, [email hidden] (SteveCD) wrote: > > >Recently upgraded my PC - having trouble getting > >a driver for the LWFF using WIndows XP. > > > >I'm running version 4.11.32 of the WIngman software, > >whilst the wheel will work in a game, it only does > >so if its the only controller connected. (If I use > >the profiler to switch to the LWFF with a FF joystick > >also connected, the game always seems to pick up the > >Joystick - despite the wheel being selected in the > >profiler) > > > >At the Logitech site, I can only find a driver for > >the "Formula Force GP" (the newer one). > > > >Any ideas? > > > >Cheers > > > >Steve > > > --- 100 Proof News - http://www.100ProofNews.com > --- 3,500+ Binary NewsGroups, and over 90,000 other groups > --- Access to over 400 Gigs/Day - $8.95/Month > --- UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD >

When you say "Old one" do you mean pre-USB? I have a USB version of the formula force and I do not use the Wingman software at all, XP does the job perfectly... When I first pluged-it in it was immediatly recognised as such by XP (I really thought it was cool since this was THE hardware I thought I might have problem with in XP being old ( 4 Y) and all...) There is a glitch in the Game Controller (what is it .pcl?) in the control panel though, whenever I plug my four (4) old Sidewinder game pads (the ones that could be plugged in each other) to play NHL 2002 with my friends I first have to launch the control applet, there will be only one showing up, after a while (10-15 sec.) all 4 will be listed, I can then launch the game. If I do otherwise (Launch NHL first) there will be no controllers at all (apart from the K-Board) showing-up in game. Likewise, I cannot leave the Wingman plugged-in it will prevent me of using my gamepads. I guess the contrary is also true. *Note that we can launch an Internet gaming session in NHL 2002 and be all 4 of us playing against any number of opponents that have joined through EA hosted servers, as long as each and everyone has fast access and a good ping, they're in for a beating! I know that NHL has nothing to do with racing but since they're both from the same editor, you would think that they would share knowledge between Dev teams... Not so!... In my Wish list : 1) Continued support for my "old" gamepads in NHL2003 2) Same kind of On-line gaming functionnality in F1 2002 (In a patch) with server and all... 3) Microsoft to fall back on their previous design Gamepadwise to ensure that my #1 will happen. *Not sure if 4 USB gamepads would work?

You could try the new beta 4.20 drivers they solved my XP problems, don't know if they'll sort yours but worth a try! http://www.wingmanteam.com/latest_software/beta_main.htm -- Cheers, Robin ................... `o^=o- now playing: Nirvana - Even in his youth http://www.oppositelock.freeserve.co.uk - N�rburgring/GPL "SteveCD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Recently upgraded my PC - having trouble getting > a driver for the LWFF using WIndows XP. > > I'm running version 4.11.32 of the WIngman software, > whilst the wheel will work in a game, it only does > so if its the only controller connected. (If I use > the profiler to switch to the LWFF with a FF joystick > also connected, the game always seems to pick up the > Joystick - despite the wheel being selected in the > profiler) > > At the Logitech site, I can only find a driver for > the "Formula Force GP" (the newer one). > > Any ideas? > > Cheers > > Steve

The 4.20 drivers solved my problems with GPL and WinXP as well. It turns out that most of the screen jerks and wheel lag were caused by the 4.11c drivers in XP. I had previously thought it was all down to my sound card. Now my only problem is a slight sound crackle with my SBLive. "Robin Lord" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QIZT8.24909$[email hidden]...

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> You could try the new beta 4.20 drivers they solved my XP problems, don't > know if they'll sort yours but worth a try! > > http://www.wingmanteam.com/latest_software/beta_main.htm > > -- > Cheers, > > Robin ................... `o^=o- > > now playing: Nirvana - Even in his youth > > http://www.oppositelock.freeserve.co.uk - N�rburgring/GPL > > "SteveCD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Recently upgraded my PC - having trouble getting > > a driver for the LWFF using WIndows XP. > > > > I'm running version 4.11.32 of the WIngman software, > > whilst the wheel will work in a game, it only does > > so if its the only controller connected. (If I use > > the profiler to switch to the LWFF with a FF joystick > > also connected, the game always seems to pick up the > > Joystick - despite the wheel being selected in the > > profiler) > > > > At the Logitech site, I can only find a driver for > > the "Formula Force GP" (the newer one). > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve > >

"Martin Fay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3Y8U8.1712$[email hidden]... > The 4.20 drivers solved my problems with GPL and WinXP as well. It turns > out that most of the screen jerks and wheel lag were caused by the 4.11c > drivers in XP. I had previously thought it was all down to my sound card. Well- no luck for me. If the Loigtech Force 3D joystick and the LWFF are connected the game always grbas the jotstick and ignores the LWFF. Even with wingman 4.20 software. Makes me wonder why they fitted 4 USB ports to the machine :-( This is GP3, and Midtown madness - not tried other games yet but I expect the same thing. Thanks for your input anyhow.. Steve

Have you tried any other games/sims? I have no experience of Midtown Madness, but I know the GP series has been a real pain controller wise for me in the past (certainly for recognising axis and the like) -- Cheers, Robin ................... `o^=o- http://www.oppositelock.freeserve.co.uk - N�rburgring/GPL "Steven Crook-Dawkins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3d2219fd$0$4275$[email hidden]... > > "Martin Fay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3Y8U8.1712$[email hidden]... > > The 4.20 drivers solved my problems with GPL and WinXP as well. It turns > > out that most of the screen jerks and wheel lag were caused by the 4.11c > > drivers in XP. I had previously thought it was all down to my sound card. > > Well- no luck for me. If the Loigtech Force 3D joystick and the LWFF > are connected the game always grbas the jotstick and ignores > the LWFF. Even with wingman 4.20 software. > > Makes me wonder why they fitted 4 USB ports to the machine :-( > > This is GP3, and Midtown madness - not tried other games yet but > I expect the same thing. > > Thanks for your input anyhow.. > > Steve > >

I also have a Logitech Force 3D joystick and yes, it is true, it does always want to be in the ID1 position with the LWFF in ID2. However, if I click the gold arrow on the bottom right of the calibration window in GPL, I get the second page of axes and I am able to calibrate my wheel there. GPL supports up to 16 axes I believe so I'm surprised you don't see your LWFF on the second calibration page like I do. -Marty "Steven Crook-Dawkins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3d2219fd$0$4275$[email hidden]... > > "Martin Fay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3Y8U8.1712$[email hidden]... > > The 4.20 drivers solved my problems with GPL and WinXP as well. Itturns > > out that most of the screen jerks and wheel lag were caused by the 4.11c > > drivers in XP. I had previously thought it was all down to my soundcard.

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> > Well- no luck for me. If the Loigtech Force 3D joystick and the LWFF > are connected the game always grbas the jotstick and ignores > the LWFF. Even with wingman 4.20 software. > > Makes me wonder why they fitted 4 USB ports to the machine :-( > > This is GP3, and Midtown madness - not tried other games yet but > I expect the same thing. > > Thanks for your input anyhow.. > > Steve > >