N2002 - Random & Frequent lockups

I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!) (It was just $40 last time I saw, grr..) even though I have N4, but I couldn't resist racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed the patch, changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) and enetered the game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game. I then calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked done and it locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the comp locked up completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I tried the resolution it reccomended (800x600x16) and I could at least change the options and save it. Next, I went to do a test day at Watkins Glen and it locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different tracks with one success until it locked up in the middle of driving. By then, I was extremely frustrated, so I tried Open GL, it didn't help, upgrading my 23.11 drivers to the newest ones and that made things even worse. Then, I uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and it didn't work, so then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having the same problems without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs: P3 667mhz 133mhz system bus 192mb of RAM 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) DSL connected through a home wireless network MS FF USB Wheel Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer takes returns on open boxes :( Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks, Alex

hehe I finally found a way to beat you Alex...:) I hope you get this figured out....nothing jumps out at me. There are two patches are there not? dave henrie "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]...

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> I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!) (It was just > $40 last time I saw, grr..) even though I have N4, but I couldn't resist > racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed the patch, > changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) and enetered the > game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game. I then > calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked done and it > locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the comp locked up > completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I tried the > resolution it reccomended (800x600x16) and I could at least change the > options and save it. Next, I went to do a test day at Watkins Glen and it > locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different tracks with one > success until it locked up in the middle of driving. By then, I was > extremely frustrated, so I tried Open GL, it didn't help, upgrading my

23.11 > drivers to the newest ones and that made things even worse. Then, I > uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and it didn't work, so > then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having the sameproblems

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> without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs: > > P3 667mhz > 133mhz system bus > 192mb of RAM > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > DSL connected through a home wireless network > MS FF USB Wheel > > Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer takes

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> on open boxes :( > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > > Thanks, > Alex > >

Couple of things: First, get the Detonator 29.32 or 29.42 drivers from www.nvidia.com. Second, download the latest patch for NASCAR 2002 - I think it's 1.02 -- --------------------- Rob Berryhill "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!) (It was just > $40 last time I saw, grr..) even though I have N4, but I couldn't resist > racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed the patch, > changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) and enetered the > game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game. I then > calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked done and it > locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the comp locked up > completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I tried the > resolution it reccomended (800x600x16) and I could at least change the > options and save it. Next, I went to do a test day at Watkins Glen and it > locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different tracks with one > success until it locked up in the middle of driving. By then, I was > extremely frustrated, so I tried Open GL, it didn't help, upgrading my 23.11 > drivers to the newest ones and that made things even worse. Then, I > uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and it didn't work, so > then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having the same problems > without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs: > > P3 667mhz > 133mhz system bus > 192mb of RAM > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > DSL connected through a home wireless network > MS FF USB Wheel > > Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer takes returns > on open boxes :( > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > > Thanks, > Alex > > >

Is it a VIA chipset? You may want to try different versions of the 4-in-1 drivers. That was my problem and the latest drivers WERE the problem and I ended up going back to the drivers that shipped with the board. Brian Oster On Tue, 02 Jul 2002 05:05:42 GMT, "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!) (It was just >$40 last time I saw, grr..) even though I have N4, but I couldn't resist >racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed the patch, >changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) and enetered the >game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game. I then >calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked done and it >locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the comp locked up >completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I tried the >resolution it reccomended (800x600x16) and I could at least change the >options and save it. Next, I went to do a test day at Watkins Glen and it >locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different tracks with one >success until it locked up in the middle of driving. By then, I was >extremely frustrated, so I tried Open GL, it didn't help, upgrading my 23.11 >drivers to the newest ones and that made things even worse. Then, I >uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and it didn't work, so >then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having the same problems >without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs: > >P3 667mhz >133mhz system bus >192mb of RAM >20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left >GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers >Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) >DSL connected through a home wireless network >MS FF USB Wheel > >Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer takes returns >on open boxes :( > >Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > >Thanks, >Alex >

Hah, but now I wish I didn't buy it at first! I know ppl will be mad at me for saying this, but I should have d/l'd it first to make sure it works and then buy it, oh well... I have the latest patch btw Thanks, Alex "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cOaU8.252066$[email hidden]...

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> hehe I finally found a way to beat you Alex...:) > I hope you get this figured out....nothing jumps out at me. There are two > patches are there not? > dave henrie > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > > I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!) (It was

just > > $40 last time I saw, grr..) even though I have N4, but I couldn't resist > > racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed the patch, > > changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) and eneteredthe > > game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game. I then > > calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked done andit > > locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the comp locked up > > completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I tried the > > resolution it reccomended (800x600x16) and I could at least change the > > options and save it. Next, I went to do a test day at Watkins Glen andit > > locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different tracks withone > > success until it locked up in the middle of driving. By then, I was > > extremely frustrated, so I tried Open GL, it didn't help, upgrading my > 23.11 > > drivers to the newest ones and that made things even worse. Then, I > > uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and it didn't work,so

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> > then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having the same > problems > > without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs: > > > > P3 667mhz > > 133mhz system bus > > 192mb of RAM > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > > DSL connected through a home wireless network > > MS FF USB Wheel > > > > Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer takes > returns > > on open boxes :( > > > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Alex > > > > > >

I tried those drivers and they don't offer support for old GeForce 256's. I tried them and ALL of my games locked up. I have the latest patch and tried it again. In 800x600x16, I got a few laps around the Glen and even got to change the setup before it locked! I also got online, but each time it locks somewhere along the way *sigh* It seems it's not the playing of the game that locks it up, it's the navigation of menus and loading of data. Thanks, Alex "Rob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yzfU8.399$[email hidden]...

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> Couple of things: > > First, get the Detonator 29.32 or 29.42 drivers from www.nvidia.com. > Second, download the latest patch for NASCAR 2002 - I think it's 1.02 > > -- > --------------------- > Rob Berryhill > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > > I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!) (It was

just > > $40 last time I saw, grr..) even though I have N4, but I couldn't resist > > racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed the patch, > > changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) and eneteredthe > > game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game. I then > > calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked done andit > > locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the comp locked up > > completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I tried the > > resolution it reccomended (800x600x16) and I could at least change the > > options and save it. Next, I went to do a test day at Watkins Glen andit > > locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different tracks withone > > success until it locked up in the middle of driving. By then, I was > > extremely frustrated, so I tried Open GL, it didn't help, upgrading my > 23.11 > > drivers to the newest ones and that made things even worse. Then, I > > uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and it didn't work,so

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> > then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having the same > problems > > without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs: > > > > P3 667mhz > > 133mhz system bus > > 192mb of RAM > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > > DSL connected through a home wireless network > > MS FF USB Wheel > > > > Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer takes > returns > > on open boxes :( > > > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Alex > > > > > > > >

I just use the 23.11's, they seem to work fine with everything else. Thanks, Alex "Brian Oster" <bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Is it a VIA chipset? You may want to try different versions of the > 4-in-1 drivers. That was my problem and the latest drivers WERE the > problem and I ended up going back to the drivers that shipped with the > board. > > Brian Oster > > On Tue, 02 Jul 2002 05:05:42 GMT, "Alex Kihurani" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!) (It was

just > >$40 last time I saw, grr..) even though I have N4, but I couldn't resist > >racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed the patch, > >changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) and eneteredthe > >game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game. I then > >calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked done andit

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> >locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the comp locked up > >completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I tried the > >resolution it reccomended (800x600x16) and I could at least change the > >options and save it. Next, I went to do a test day at Watkins Glen and it > >locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different tracks with one > >success until it locked up in the middle of driving. By then, I was > >extremely frustrated, so I tried Open GL, it didn't help, upgrading my

23.11 > >drivers to the newest ones and that made things even worse. Then, I > >uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and it didn't work,so > >then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having the sameproblems

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> >without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs: > > > >P3 667mhz > >133mhz system bus > >192mb of RAM > >20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > >GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > >Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > >DSL connected through a home wireless network > >MS FF USB Wheel > > > >Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer takes

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> >on open boxes :( > > > >Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > > > >Thanks, > >Alex > > >

"Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... <SNIP>

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> P3 667mhz > 133mhz system bus > 192mb of RAM > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > DSL connected through a home wireless network > MS FF USB Wheel >

CPU is borderline, but should run it. RAM is marginal, I would suggest 256MB of RAM minimum, I run 1024MB. GF256 is a SERIOUS issue. I have a friend who tried and tired to run NR2002 with a GF256 and could get no satisfaction. You need a 64MB card, even if it is an MX model. I did not see a mention of your OS. If it is Win98SE, you should be fine with the drivers (though the 20+ level drivers are not made for that GF256, you may try something below 23.11, like in the 16's or 17's. The 20+ drivers are for GF2-3-4 lines, check guru3d.com for the latest info) IF you are trying to run the sim in WinXP with that rig, it will be tough but can be done. I'd definitely juice up the RAM, to 512MB or more and would definitely look for a higher end video card too. Good luck.

It does work. Your computer is busted... Seriously, you just have some sort of incompatibility going on. Since it is affecting D3D and OGL, I'd say it's not the game at all, but maybe your Video Card Drivers or some other system issue. -Larry "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RWjU8.31168$[email hidden]... > Hah, but now I wish I didn't buy it at first! I know ppl will be mad at me > for saying this, but I should have d/l'd it first to make sure it worksand

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> then buy it, oh well... > > I have the latest patch btw > > Thanks, > Alex > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:cOaU8.252066$[email hidden]... > > hehe I finally found a way to beat you Alex...:) > > I hope you get this figured out....nothing jumps out at me. There are

two

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> > patches are there not? > > dave henrie > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > > > I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!) (It was > just > > > $40 last time I saw, grr..) even though I have N4, but I couldn't

resist > > > racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed thepatch, > > > changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) and enetered > the > > > game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game. I then > > > calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked doneand > it > > > locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the comp lockedup

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> > > completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I tried the > > > resolution it reccomended (800x600x16) and I could at least change the > > > options and save it. Next, I went to do a test day at Watkins Glen and > it > > > locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different tracks with > one > > > success until it locked up in the middle of driving. By then, I was > > > extremely frustrated, so I tried Open GL, it didn't help, upgrading my > > 23.11 > > > drivers to the newest ones and that made things even worse. Then, I > > > uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and it didn't

work,

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> so > > > then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having the same > > problems > > > without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs: > > > > > > P3 667mhz > > > 133mhz system bus > > > 192mb of RAM > > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > > > DSL connected through a home wireless network > > > MS FF USB Wheel > > > > > > Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer takes > > returns > > > on open boxes :( > > > > > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > >

See where your AGP Aperture is set in the BIOS. If it is set to 128MB or higher, try setting it to 64MB. That fixed my OGL problems with the patch. -Larry "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JYjU8.31169$[email hidden]... > I tried those drivers and they don't offer support for old GeForce 256's.I > tried them and ALL of my games locked up. > > I have the latest patch and tried it again. In 800x600x16, I got a fewlaps

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> around the Glen and even got to change the setup before it locked! I also > got online, but each time it locks somewhere along the way *sigh* It seems > it's not the playing of the game that locks it up, it's the navigation of > menus and loading of data. > > Thanks, > Alex > "Rob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:yzfU8.399$[email hidden]... > > Couple of things: > > > > First, get the Detonator 29.32 or 29.42 drivers from www.nvidia.com. > > Second, download the latest patch for NASCAR 2002 - I think it's 1.02 > > > > -- > > --------------------- > > Rob Berryhill > > > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > > > I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!) (It was > just > > > $40 last time I saw, grr..) even though I have N4, but I couldn't

resist > > > racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed thepatch, > > > changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) and enetered > the > > > game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game. I then > > > calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked doneand > it > > > locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the comp lockedup

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> > > completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I tried the > > > resolution it reccomended (800x600x16) and I could at least change the > > > options and save it. Next, I went to do a test day at Watkins Glen and > it > > > locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different tracks with > one > > > success until it locked up in the middle of driving. By then, I was > > > extremely frustrated, so I tried Open GL, it didn't help, upgrading my > > 23.11 > > > drivers to the newest ones and that made things even worse. Then, I > > > uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and it didn't

work,

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> so > > > then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having the same > > problems > > > without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs: > > > > > > P3 667mhz > > > 133mhz system bus > > > 192mb of RAM > > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > > > DSL connected through a home wireless network > > > MS FF USB Wheel > > > > > > Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer takes > > returns > > > on open boxes :( > > > > > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

You've still got a few options left. I think N2002 did have a problem with the 23.11 drivers the 28.32 and 29.80 worked for me. From what you write, sound could be a common denominator. Have you tried disabling sound and see what that does? If this doesn't do anything, you could slow down the RAM settings in your motherboard's BIOS. Maybe N2002 taxes your system a bit much. I assume you aren't overclocking anything, and heat is not a problem, but you might still look into your BIOS and add a waitstate here and there or select a slower timing, to make it more stable. You might also want to check for interrupt problems. The most frequent cause for problems I've seen are background tasks. You might want to use a Process Viewer to check what's running (Windows' Taskmanager isn't enough) and kill everything that shouldn't be running. Something your graphics card (or an older one) has installed that remained in the system are also possible culprits - like menu extensions etc. - are also possible culprits. Don't give up hope yet. Achim "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RWjU8.31168$[email hidden]... > Hah, but now I wish I didn't buy it at first! I know ppl will be mad at me > for saying this, but I should have d/l'd it first to make sure it worksand

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> then buy it, oh well... > > I have the latest patch btw > > Thanks, > Alex > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:cOaU8.252066$[email hidden]... > > hehe I finally found a way to beat you Alex...:) > > I hope you get this figured out....nothing jumps out at me. There are

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> > patches are there not? > > dave henrie > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > > > I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!) (It was > just > > > $40 last time I saw, grr..) even though I have N4, but I couldn't

resist > > > racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed thepatch, > > > changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) and enetered > the > > > game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game. I then > > > calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked doneand > it > > > locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the comp lockedup

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> > > completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I tried the > > > resolution it reccomended (800x600x16) and I could at least change the > > > options and save it. Next, I went to do a test day at Watkins Glen and > it > > > locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different tracks with > one > > > success until it locked up in the middle of driving. By then, I was > > > extremely frustrated, so I tried Open GL, it didn't help, upgrading my > > 23.11 > > > drivers to the newest ones and that made things even worse. Then, I > > > uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and it didn't

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> so > > > then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having the same > > problems > > > without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs: > > > > > > P3 667mhz > > > 133mhz system bus > > > 192mb of RAM > > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > > > DSL connected through a home wireless network > > > MS FF USB Wheel > > > > > > Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer takes > > returns > > > on open boxes :( > > > > > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > >

I had the "odd" lockup a few weeks ago and traced it back to Daemon tools. Most don't have any issues with the DT defaults but I did, go figure. After uninstalling all has been fine. Mitch "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:afsp5q$gn655$[email hidden]... > You've still got a few options left. > > I think N2002 did have a problem with the 23.11 drivers the 28.32 and29.80

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> worked for me. > > From what you write, sound could be a common denominator. Have you tried > disabling sound and see what that does? > > If this doesn't do anything, you could slow down the RAM settings in your > motherboard's BIOS. Maybe N2002 taxes your system a bit much. > > I assume you aren't overclocking anything, and heat is not a problem, but > you might still look into your BIOS and add a waitstate here and there or > select a slower timing, to make it more stable. You might also want to

check

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> for interrupt problems. > > The most frequent cause for problems I've seen are background tasks. You > might want to use a Process Viewer to check what's running (Windows' > Taskmanager isn't enough) and kill everything that shouldn't be running. > > Something your graphics card (or an older one) has installed that remained > in the system are also possible culprits - like menu extensions etc. - are > also possible culprits. > > Don't give up hope yet. > > Achim > > > > > > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:RWjU8.31168$[email hidden]... > > Hah, but now I wish I didn't buy it at first! I know ppl will be mad at

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> > for saying this, but I should have d/l'd it first to make sure it works > and > > then buy it, oh well... > > > > I have the latest patch btw > > > > Thanks, > > Alex > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:cOaU8.252066$[email hidden]... > > > hehe I finally found a way to beat you Alex...:) > > > I hope you get this figured out....nothing jumps out at me. There are > two > > > patches are there not? > > > dave henrie > > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > > > > I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!) (It

was > > just > > > > $40 last time I saw, grr..) even though I have N4, but I couldn't > resist > > > > racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed the > patch, > > > > changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) andenetered > > the > > > > game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game. Ithen > > > > calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked done > and > > it > > > > locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the complocked > up > > > > completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I triedthe > > > > resolution it reccomended (800x600x16) and I could at least changethe > > > > options and save it. Next, I went to do a test day at Watkins Glenand > > it > > > > locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different trackswith > > one > > > > success until it locked up in the middle of driving. By then, I was > > > > extremely frustrated, so I tried Open GL, it didn't help, upgradingmy

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> > > 23.11 > > > > drivers to the newest ones and that made things even worse. Then, I > > > > uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and it didn't > work, > > so > > > > then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having the same > > > problems > > > > without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs: > > > > > > > > P3 667mhz > > > > 133mhz system bus > > > > 192mb of RAM > > > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > > > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > > > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > > > > DSL connected through a home wireless network > > > > MS FF USB Wheel > > > > > > > > Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer takes > > > returns > > > > on open boxes :( > > > > > > > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

You're not the only one... I used DaemonTools exclusively until NR2002 came out. At that point, I had to let it go because of the lockups. Oddly, some here have been able to make it work. I don't get it, really :) The real shame is I'm the one that turned everyone on to this method. It's not fair! -Larry "Mitch Alatorre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:znoU8.838$[email hidden]... > I had the "odd" lockup a few weeks ago and traced it back to Daemon tools. > Most don't have any issues with the DT defaults but I did, go figure.After

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> uninstalling all has been fine. > > Mitch > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:afsp5q$gn655$[email hidden]... > > You've still got a few options left. > > > > I think N2002 did have a problem with the 23.11 drivers the 28.32 and > 29.80 > > worked for me. > > > > From what you write, sound could be a common denominator. Have you tried > > disabling sound and see what that does? > > > > If this doesn't do anything, you could slow down the RAM settings in

your > > motherboard's BIOS. Maybe N2002 taxes your system a bit much. > > > > I assume you aren't overclocking anything, and heat is not a problem,but > > you might still look into your BIOS and add a waitstate here and thereor

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> > select a slower timing, to make it more stable. You might also want to > check > > for interrupt problems. > > > > The most frequent cause for problems I've seen are background tasks. You > > might want to use a Process Viewer to check what's running (Windows' > > Taskmanager isn't enough) and kill everything that shouldn't be running. > > > > Something your graphics card (or an older one) has installed that

remained > > in the system are also possible culprits - like menu extensions etc. -are

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> > also possible culprits. > > > > Don't give up hope yet. > > > > Achim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:RWjU8.31168$[email hidden]... > > > Hah, but now I wish I didn't buy it at first! I know ppl will be mad

at > me > > > for saying this, but I should have d/l'd it first to make sure itworks

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> > and > > > then buy it, oh well... > > > > > > I have the latest patch btw > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Alex > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:cOaU8.252066$[email hidden]... > > > > hehe I finally found a way to beat you Alex...:) > > > > I hope you get this figured out....nothing jumps out at me. There

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> > two > > > > patches are there not? > > > > dave henrie > > > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > > > > > I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!) (It > was > > > just > > > > > $40 last time I saw, grr..) even though I have N4, but I couldn't > > resist > > > > > racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed the > > patch, > > > > > changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) and > enetered > > > the > > > > > game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game. I > then > > > > > calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked

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> > and > > > it > > > > > locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the comp > locked > > up > > > > > completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I tried > the > > > > > resolution it reccomended (800x600x16) and I could at least change > the > > > > > options and save it. Next, I went to do a test day at Watkins Glen > and > > > it > > > > > locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different tracks > with > > > one > > > > > success until it locked up in the middle of driving. By then, I

was > > > > > extremely frustrated, so I tried Open GL, it didn't help,upgrading > my > > > > 23.11 > > > > > drivers to the newest ones and that made things even worse. Then,I

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> > > > > uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and it didn't > > work, > > > so > > > > > then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having the same > > > > problems > > > > > without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs: > > > > > > > > > > P3 667mhz > > > > > 133mhz system bus > > > > > 192mb of RAM > > > > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > > > > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > > > > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > > > > > DSL connected through a home wireless network > > > > > MS FF USB Wheel > > > > > > > > > > Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer

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> > > > returns > > > > > on open boxes :( > > > > > > > > > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

That's a new one. The last one I had was 3.02 or something. I'll try it again! -Larry "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aft5f7$h54t6$[email hidden]...

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> I've found _some_versions_ of the Daemon tools to cause the occasional > issue. But I'm currently on 3.2 and that one works very well here. > > Achim > > > "Mitch Alatorre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:znoU8.838$[email hidden]... > > I had the "odd" lockup a few weeks ago and traced it back to Daemon

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> > Most don't have any issues with the DT defaults but I did, go figure. > After > > uninstalling all has been fine. > > > > Mitch > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:afsp5q$gn655$[email hidden]... > > > You've still got a few options left. > > > > > > I think N2002 did have a problem with the 23.11 drivers the 28.32 and > > 29.80 > > > worked for me. > > > > > > From what you write, sound could be a common denominator. Have you

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> > > disabling sound and see what that does? > > > > > > If this doesn't do anything, you could slow down the RAM settings in > your > > > motherboard's BIOS. Maybe N2002 taxes your system a bit much. > > > > > > I assume you aren't overclocking anything, and heat is not a problem, > but > > > you might still look into your BIOS and add a waitstate here and there > or > > > select a slower timing, to make it more stable. You might also want to > > check > > > for interrupt problems. > > > > > > The most frequent cause for problems I've seen are background tasks.

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> > > > > > Something your graphics card (or an older one) has installed that > remained > > > in the system are also possible culprits - like menu extensions etc. - > are > > > also possible culprits. > > > > > > Don't give up hope yet. > > > > > > Achim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:RWjU8.31168$[email hidden]... > > > > Hah, but now I wish I didn't buy it at first! I know ppl will be mad > at > > me > > > > for saying this, but I should have d/l'd it first to make sure it > works > > > and > > > > then buy it, oh well... > > > > > > > > I have the latest patch btw > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Alex > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:cOaU8.252066$[email hidden]... > > > > > hehe I finally found a way to beat you Alex...:) > > > > > I hope you get this figured out....nothing jumps out at me. There > are > > > two > > > > > patches are there not? > > > > > dave henrie > > > > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > > > > > > I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!)

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> > > resist > > > > > > racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed the > > > patch, > > > > > > changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) and > > enetered > > > > the > > > > > > game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game. I > > then > > > > > > calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked > done > > > and > > > > it > > > > > > locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the comp > > locked > > > up > > > > > > completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I

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> > and > > > > it > > > > > > locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different tracks > > with > > > > one > > > > > > success until it locked up in the middle of driving. By then, I > was > > > > > > extremely frustrated, so I tried Open GL, it didn't help, > upgrading > > my > > > > > 23.11 > > > > > > drivers to the newest ones and that made things even worse.

Then, > I > > > > > > uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and itdidn't > > > work, > > > > so > > > > > > then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having thesame

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> > > > > problems > > > > > > without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs: > > > > > > > > > > > > P3 667mhz > > > > > > 133mhz system bus > > > > > > 192mb of RAM > > > > > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > > > > > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > > > > > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > > > > > > DSL connected through a home wireless network > > > > > > MS FF USB Wheel > > > > > > > > > > > > Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer > takes > > > > > returns > > > > > > on open boxes :( > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I've found _some_versions_ of the Daemon tools to cause the occasional issue. But I'm currently on 3.2 and that one works very well here. Achim "Mitch Alatorre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:znoU8.838$[email hidden]... > I had the "odd" lockup a few weeks ago and traced it back to Daemon tools. > Most don't have any issues with the DT defaults but I did, go figure.After

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> uninstalling all has been fine. > > Mitch > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:afsp5q$gn655$[email hidden]... > > You've still got a few options left. > > > > I think N2002 did have a problem with the 23.11 drivers the 28.32 and > 29.80 > > worked for me. > > > > From what you write, sound could be a common denominator. Have you tried > > disabling sound and see what that does? > > > > If this doesn't do anything, you could slow down the RAM settings in

your > > motherboard's BIOS. Maybe N2002 taxes your system a bit much. > > > > I assume you aren't overclocking anything, and heat is not a problem,but > > you might still look into your BIOS and add a waitstate here and thereor

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> > select a slower timing, to make it more stable. You might also want to > check > > for interrupt problems. > > > > The most frequent cause for problems I've seen are background tasks. You > > might want to use a Process Viewer to check what's running (Windows' > > Taskmanager isn't enough) and kill everything that shouldn't be running. > > > > Something your graphics card (or an older one) has installed that

remained > > in the system are also possible culprits - like menu extensions etc. -are

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> > also possible culprits. > > > > Don't give up hope yet. > > > > Achim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:RWjU8.31168$[email hidden]... > > > Hah, but now I wish I didn't buy it at first! I know ppl will be mad

at > me > > > for saying this, but I should have d/l'd it first to make sure itworks

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> > and > > > then buy it, oh well... > > > > > > I have the latest patch btw > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Alex > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:cOaU8.252066$[email hidden]... > > > > hehe I finally found a way to beat you Alex...:) > > > > I hope you get this figured out....nothing jumps out at me. There

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> > two > > > > patches are there not? > > > > dave henrie > > > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > > > > > I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!) (It > was > > > just > > > > > $40 last time I saw, grr..) even though I have N4, but I couldn't > > resist > > > > > racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed the > > patch, > > > > > changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) and > enetered > > > the > > > > > game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game. I > then > > > > > calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked

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> > and > > > it > > > > > locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the comp > locked > > up > > > > > completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I tried > the > > > > > resolution it reccomended (800x600x16) and I could at least change > the > > > > > options and save it. Next, I went to do a test day at Watkins Glen > and > > > it > > > > > locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different tracks > with > > > one > > > > > success until it locked up in the middle of driving. By then, I

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> > > > > uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and it didn't > > work, > > > so > > > > > then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having the same > > > > problems > > > > > without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs: > > > > > > > > > > P3 667mhz > > > > > 133mhz system bus > > > > > 192mb of RAM > > > > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > > > > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > > > > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > > > > > DSL connected through a home wireless network > > > > > MS FF USB Wheel > > > > > > > > > > Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer

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> > > > returns > > > > > on open boxes :( > > > > > > > > > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Installed with the daemon tools, but I just left image mounted, like it was in the drive I guess. And I don't even have the DT icon on the systray thingie. But what little I've run N2k2 lately has been very solid. dave henrie (ps..I think I'm using DX at the moment.) "Larry (The Other Larry)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1DqU8.11651$%%[email hidden]...

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> That's a new one. The last one I had was 3.02 or something. > > I'll try it again! > > -Larry > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aft5f7$h54t6$[email hidden]... > > I've found _some_versions_ of the Daemon tools to cause the occasional > > issue. But I'm currently on 3.2 and that one works very well here. > > > > Achim > > > > > > "Mitch Alatorre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:znoU8.838$[email hidden]... > > > I had the "odd" lockup a few weeks ago and traced it back to Daemon > tools. > > > Most don't have any issues with the DT defaults but I did, go figure. > > After > > > uninstalling all has been fine. > > > > > > Mitch > > > > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:afsp5q$gn655$[email hidden]... > > > > You've still got a few options left. > > > > > > > > I think N2002 did have a problem with the 23.11 drivers the 28.32

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> > > 29.80 > > > > worked for me. > > > > > > > > From what you write, sound could be a common denominator. Have you > tried > > > > disabling sound and see what that does? > > > > > > > > If this doesn't do anything, you could slow down the RAM settings in > > your > > > > motherboard's BIOS. Maybe N2002 taxes your system a bit much. > > > > > > > > I assume you aren't overclocking anything, and heat is not a

problem, > > but > > > > you might still look into your BIOS and add a waitstate here andthere > > or > > > > select a slower timing, to make it more stable. You might also wantto

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> > > check > > > > for interrupt problems. > > > > > > > > The most frequent cause for problems I've seen are background tasks. > You > > > > might want to use a Process Viewer to check what's running (Windows' > > > > Taskmanager isn't enough) and kill everything that shouldn't be > running. > > > > > > > > Something your graphics card (or an older one) has installed that > > remained > > > > in the system are also possible culprits - like menu extensions

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> > at > > > me > > > > > for saying this, but I should have d/l'd it first to make sure it > > works > > > > and > > > > > then buy it, oh well... > > > > > > > > > > I have the latest patch btw > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Alex > > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:cOaU8.252066$[email hidden]... > > > > > > hehe I finally found a way to beat you Alex...:) > > > > > > I hope you get this figured out....nothing jumps out at me.

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> > are > > > > two > > > > > > patches are there not? > > > > > > dave henrie > > > > > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!) > (It > > > was > > > > > just > > > > > > > $40 last time I saw, grr..) even though I have N4, but I > couldn't > > > > resist > > > > > > > racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed

the > > > > patch, > > > > > > > changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) and > > > enetered > > > > > the > > > > > > > game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game.I

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> > > then > > > > > > > calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked > > done > > > > and > > > > > it > > > > > > > locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the comp > > > locked > > > > up > > > > > > > completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I > tried > > > the > > > > > > > resolution it reccomended (800x600x16) and I could at least > change > > > the > > > > > > > options and save it. Next, I went to do a test day at Watkins > Glen > > > and > > > > > it > > > > > > > locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different

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> > was > > > > > > > extremely frustrated, so I tried Open GL, it didn't help, > > upgrading > > > my > > > > > > 23.11 > > > > > > > drivers to the newest ones and that made things even worse. > Then, > > I > > > > > > > uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and it > didn't > > > > work, > > > > > so > > > > > > > then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having the > same > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P3 667mhz > > > > > > > 133mhz system bus > > > > > > > 192mb of RAM > > > > > > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > > > > > > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > > > > > > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > > > > > > > DSL connected through a home wireless network > > > > > > > MS FF USB Wheel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer > > takes > > > > > > returns > > > > > > > on open boxes :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I downgraded to the 12.51 (or 12.41, somewhere around there, the official drivers) stated in the HG F1 2001 forums as the best ones when the game came out (I had poor performance when F1 2001 first came out, but when I changed to those drivers it was silky smooth) The game would work in MP about 10% of the time w/o lockup, so I got 1 or 2 races in, and about 2/3rds of the time I could get a few laps in in test sessions. The BIG thing that was affecting the game was the Daemon tools. I have them loaded for Operation Flahpoint because the copy protection takes quite long w/ the CD in. I closed the program, went into N2002, and it worked! I even exited out and came back on to play online in the past 4 hours or so 4 times and it worked everytime! BTW, my old GeForce 256 still runs it silky smooth at 30+fps with most options at high or medium. I probably should get a better one soon, but I'm tight on money and I can still run new games at 30fps or so. Thanks for all your help! Alex "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ztkU8.520$[email hidden]...

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> > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > <SNIP> > > P3 667mhz > > 133mhz system bus > > 192mb of RAM > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > > DSL connected through a home wireless network > > MS FF USB Wheel > > > > CPU is borderline, but should run it. > > RAM is marginal, I would suggest 256MB of RAM minimum, I run 1024MB. > > GF256 is a SERIOUS issue. I have a friend who tried and tired to run

NR2002 > with a GF256 and could get no satisfaction. You need a 64MB card, even ifit > is an MX model. > > I did not see a mention of your OS. If it is Win98SE, you should be fine > with the drivers (though the 20+ level drivers are not made for thatGF256, > you may try something below 23.11, like in the 16's or 17's. The 20+ > drivers are for GF2-3-4 lines, check guru3d.com for the latest info) > > IF you are trying to run the sim in WinXP with that rig, it will be tough > but can be done. I'd definitely juice up the RAM, to 512MB or more andwould > definitely look for a higher end video card too. > > Good luck. > >

Glad to hear you're up and racing Alex! Just for reference I was using ver 3.11. The latest is 3.16. I'll mess with it later in the week and see if the prob persists. I had no probs prior to the 02 papy patch and seem to recall auto mounting a second drive around the same time so it could be a few things causing the locks. Mitch "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AOuU8.32676$[email hidden]... > I downgraded to the 12.51 (or 12.41, somewhere around there, the official > drivers) stated in the HG F1 2001 forums as the best ones when the gamecame > out (I had poor performance when F1 2001 first came out, but when Ichanged > to those drivers it was silky smooth) The game would work in MP about 10%of > the time w/o lockup, so I got 1 or 2 races in, and about 2/3rds of thetime > I could get a few laps in in test sessions. > > The BIG thing that was affecting the game was the Daemon tools. I havethem > loaded for Operation Flahpoint because the copy protection takes quitelong > w/ the CD in. I closed the program, went into N2002, and it worked! I even > exited out and came back on to play online in the past 4 hours or so 4times > and it worked everytime! > > BTW, my old GeForce 256 still runs it silky smooth at 30+fps with most > options at high or medium. I probably should get a better one soon, butI'm

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> tight on money and I can still run new games at 30fps or so. > > Thanks for all your help! > Alex > "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ztkU8.520$[email hidden]... > > > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > > <SNIP> > > > P3 667mhz > > > 133mhz system bus > > > 192mb of RAM > > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > > > DSL connected through a home wireless network > > > MS FF USB Wheel > > > > > > > CPU is borderline, but should run it. > > > > RAM is marginal, I would suggest 256MB of RAM minimum, I run 1024MB. > > > > GF256 is a SERIOUS issue. I have a friend who tried and tired to run > NR2002 > > with a GF256 and could get no satisfaction. You need a 64MB card, even

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> it > > is an MX model. > > > > I did not see a mention of your OS. If it is Win98SE, you should be fine > > with the drivers (though the 20+ level drivers are not made for that > GF256, > > you may try something below 23.11, like in the 16's or 17's. The 20+ > > drivers are for GF2-3-4 lines, check guru3d.com for the latest info) > > > > IF you are trying to run the sim in WinXP with that rig, it will be

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> > but can be done. I'd definitely juice up the RAM, to 512MB or more and > would > > definitely look for a higher end video card too. > > > > Good luck. > > > > > >

I wonder... DaemonTools has been discussed here numerous times due to how it helps you save your CD, and makes the game more pleasant to deal with. I just wonder if Sierra has noted this, and in NR2002 has place some sort of DaemonTools bomb in NR2002 to stop us from using it ? That has been one of the main reasons DT gets updated as much as it does, to keep up with changes in the games/copy protection routines. -Larry "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AOuU8.32676$[email hidden]... > I downgraded to the 12.51 (or 12.41, somewhere around there, the official > drivers) stated in the HG F1 2001 forums as the best ones when the gamecame > out (I had poor performance when F1 2001 first came out, but when Ichanged > to those drivers it was silky smooth) The game would work in MP about 10%of > the time w/o lockup, so I got 1 or 2 races in, and about 2/3rds of thetime > I could get a few laps in in test sessions. > > The BIG thing that was affecting the game was the Daemon tools. I havethem > loaded for Operation Flahpoint because the copy protection takes quitelong > w/ the CD in. I closed the program, went into N2002, and it worked! I even > exited out and came back on to play online in the past 4 hours or so 4times > and it worked everytime! > > BTW, my old GeForce 256 still runs it silky smooth at 30+fps with most > options at high or medium. I probably should get a better one soon, butI'm

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> tight on money and I can still run new games at 30fps or so. > > Thanks for all your help! > Alex > "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ztkU8.520$[email hidden]... > > > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > > <SNIP> > > > P3 667mhz > > > 133mhz system bus > > > 192mb of RAM > > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > > > DSL connected through a home wireless network > > > MS FF USB Wheel > > > > > > > CPU is borderline, but should run it. > > > > RAM is marginal, I would suggest 256MB of RAM minimum, I run 1024MB. > > > > GF256 is a SERIOUS issue. I have a friend who tried and tired to run > NR2002 > > with a GF256 and could get no satisfaction. You need a 64MB card, even

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> it > > is an MX model. > > > > I did not see a mention of your OS. If it is Win98SE, you should be fine > > with the drivers (though the 20+ level drivers are not made for that > GF256, > > you may try something below 23.11, like in the 16's or 17's. The 20+ > > drivers are for GF2-3-4 lines, check guru3d.com for the latest info) > > > > IF you are trying to run the sim in WinXP with that rig, it will be

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> > but can be done. I'd definitely juice up the RAM, to 512MB or more and > would > > definitely look for a higher end video card too. > > > > Good luck. > > > > > >

NP man, I just toss out suggestions based on experience. I figured that your video card would benefit from 'less' drivers than you were using. I have a friend that is running that very CPU and video card (PIII/667 & GF256) in WinXP and we have tweaked and prodded until it will run, around 30 FPS in NR2002 so I figured you could at least get it running even if you had to knock down some of the detail. Glad to hear you can at least turn some laps now, enjoy! "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AOuU8.32676$[email hidden]... > I downgraded to the 12.51 (or 12.41, somewhere around there, the official > drivers) stated in the HG F1 2001 forums as the best ones when the gamecame > out (I had poor performance when F1 2001 first came out, but when Ichanged > to those drivers it was silky smooth) The game would work in MP about 10%of > the time w/o lockup, so I got 1 or 2 races in, and about 2/3rds of thetime > I could get a few laps in in test sessions. > > The BIG thing that was affecting the game was the Daemon tools. I havethem > loaded for Operation Flahpoint because the copy protection takes quitelong > w/ the CD in. I closed the program, went into N2002, and it worked! I even > exited out and came back on to play online in the past 4 hours or so 4times > and it worked everytime! > > BTW, my old GeForce 256 still runs it silky smooth at 30+fps with most > options at high or medium. I probably should get a better one soon, butI'm

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> tight on money and I can still run new games at 30fps or so. > > Thanks for all your help! > Alex > "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ztkU8.520$[email hidden]... > > > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > > <SNIP> > > > P3 667mhz > > > 133mhz system bus > > > 192mb of RAM > > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > > > DSL connected through a home wireless network > > > MS FF USB Wheel > > > > > > > CPU is borderline, but should run it. > > > > RAM is marginal, I would suggest 256MB of RAM minimum, I run 1024MB. > > > > GF256 is a SERIOUS issue. I have a friend who tried and tired to run > NR2002 > > with a GF256 and could get no satisfaction. You need a 64MB card, even

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> it > > is an MX model. > > > > I did not see a mention of your OS. If it is Win98SE, you should be fine > > with the drivers (though the 20+ level drivers are not made for that > GF256, > > you may try something below 23.11, like in the 16's or 17's. The 20+ > > drivers are for GF2-3-4 lines, check guru3d.com for the latest info) > > > > IF you are trying to run the sim in WinXP with that rig, it will be

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> > but can be done. I'd definitely juice up the RAM, to 512MB or more and > would > > definitely look for a higher end video card too. > > > > Good luck. > > > > > >

Actually, I turned everything up to full except for draw distance and mirror detail, and was getting 30fps, so I'm pleased. Thanks, Alex "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZbFU8.2464$[email hidden]... > NP man, I just toss out suggestions based on experience. I figured thatyour

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> video card would benefit from 'less' drivers than you were using. I have a > friend that is running that very CPU and video card (PIII/667 & GF256) in > WinXP and we have tweaked and prodded until it will run, around 30 FPS in > NR2002 so I figured you could at least get it running even if you had to > knock down some of the detail. > > Glad to hear you can at least turn some laps now, enjoy! > > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:AOuU8.32676$[email hidden]... > > I downgraded to the 12.51 (or 12.41, somewhere around there, the

official > > drivers) stated in the HG F1 2001 forums as the best ones when the game > came > > out (I had poor performance when F1 2001 first came out, but when I > changed > > to those drivers it was silky smooth) The game would work in MP about10%

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> > exited out and came back on to play online in the past 4 hours or so 4 > times > > and it worked everytime! > > > > BTW, my old GeForce 256 still runs it silky smooth at 30+fps with most > > options at high or medium. I probably should get a better one soon, but > I'm > > tight on money and I can still run new games at 30fps or so. > > > > Thanks for all your help! > > Alex > > "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:ztkU8.520$[email hidden]... > > > > > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:GwaU8.32485$[email hidden]... > > > <SNIP> > > > > P3 667mhz > > > > 133mhz system bus > > > > 192mb of RAM > > > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left > > > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers > > > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled) > > > > DSL connected through a home wireless network > > > > MS FF USB Wheel > > > > > > > > > > CPU is borderline, but should run it. > > > > > > RAM is marginal, I would suggest 256MB of RAM minimum, I run 1024MB. > > > > > > GF256 is a SERIOUS issue. I have a friend who tried and tired to run > > NR2002 > > > with a GF256 and could get no satisfaction. You need a 64MB card, even > if > > it > > > is an MX model. > > > > > > I did not see a mention of your OS. If it is Win98SE, you should be

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> > > with the drivers (though the 20+ level drivers are not made for that > > GF256, > > > you may try something below 23.11, like in the 16's or 17's. The 20+ > > > drivers are for GF2-3-4 lines, check guru3d.com for the latest info) > > > > > > IF you are trying to run the sim in WinXP with that rig, it will be > tough > > > but can be done. I'd definitely juice up the RAM, to 512MB or more and > > would > > > definitely look for a higher end video card too. > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > > > > > > >