GP4 or F1-2002 Whats the verdict? :)

I own F1-2002, and i find it very fun. I've tried GP4 but its very unstable, and crashes often. However GP4 looks like it can be a lot of fun. Now that they're both widely available, how do they compare. I ask this because i play F1-2002 more due to GP4 being extremely buggy.

Give it up already... we are all tired of the damn arguing! The generalised verdict is that F12002 is so far the best overall... by how much and why? Everyone's got their opinions and besides, who cares. Everyone should try the demos then buy the one they personally like most or simply buy both! "jackie_chan_fan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gL1W8.73083$[email hidden]... I own F1-2002, and i find it very fun. I've tried GP4 but its very unstable, and crashes often. However GP4 looks like it can be a lot of fun. Now that they're both widely available, how do they compare. I ask this because i play F1-2002 more due to GP4 being extremely buggy.

> Everyone should try the demos GP4 doesnt have one I wonder why COUGH AHEM ITS WORSE THAN GP3 COUGH AHEM DOug

The verdict is... Neither is GPL you know :-)

jackie_chan_fan <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gL1W8.73083$[email hidden]... > I own F1-2002, and i find it very fun. I've tried GP4 but its veryunstable, > and crashes often. However GP4 looks like it can be a lot of fun. > > Now that they're both widely available, how do they compare. I ask this > because i play F1-2002 more due to GP4 being extremely buggy. As far as I have been able to find out through various reliable sources.. GP4 is actually the better GAME while F1-2002 is the better SIMULATION. Which is the best buy for you depends on what you are after.... fun dicing with the AI = GP4, realistic physics = F1-2002. Mikkel

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> As far as I have been able to find out through various reliable sources.. > GP4 is actually the better GAME while F1-2002 is the better SIMULATION. > Which is the best buy for you depends on what you are after.... fun dicing > with the AI = GP4, realistic physics = F1-2002. > > Mikkel >

I think you will find those who grew up with Crammond sims like World Circuit and GP2,3, will prefer GP4. Many of those without previous experience in that line seem to gravitate to F1 2002. Now the big difference and one that I think falls in favor if F1 2002 is the # of former GP series users who have changed and now prefer F1 2002. I think the # of changed drivers is greater migrating from gp3/4 to F 2002 than vice versa. No scientific data to back that up, just my 'general' impression after reading many posts about the two sims. dave henrie

> I think you will find those who grew up with Crammond sims like World > Circuit and GP2,3, will prefer GP4. Many of those without previous > experience in that line seem to gravitate to F1 2002. Now the big > difference and one that I think falls in favor if F1 2002 is the # offormer > GP series users who have changed and now prefer F1 2002. I think the #of > changed drivers is greater migrating from gp3/4 to F 2002 than vice versa. > No scientific data to back that up, just my 'general' impression after > reading many posts about the two sims. I certainly fall into that category. I was a big GP1,2,3 fan but have now jumped ship. I tried out GP4 last weekend and it's not as bad as some people in here make out but just feels outdated in the physics department. The graphics are fairly poor except for the trackside scenary but the most disappointing aspect for me is the lacklustre force feedback. I would recommend GP4 only for casual racers and/or people who don't own steering wheels. Damien

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote > I think you will find those who grew up with Crammond sims like World > Circuit and GP2,3, will prefer GP4. Many of those without previous > experience in that line seem to gravitate to F1 2002. Now the big > difference and one that I think falls in favor if F1 2002 is the # offormer > GP series users who have changed and now prefer F1 2002. I think the #of > changed drivers is greater migrating from gp3/4 to F 2002 than vice versa. I fall into that latter category. In case anybody wonders why, I'll spend a few lines on explaining why I've chosen to bail on the Crammond series now. Competition. This time there actually IS competition. When GP2/3 came out, there weren't a whole lot of options. I was disappointed with GP3 as well, but I couldn't find anything better. From GP3 to GP4 I was really hoping for realism. Not necessarily in the physics department, but I wanted realistic racedays. I wanted the light at the end of the pitlane in practise. I wanted proper penalties. I wanted to drive in and park after getting a podium finish. F1-2002 delivers a lot more in these areas than GP4 does. GP4 is focused entirely on updating the graphics and providing the same arcadey (and thus fun) drive as before. It has no added details apart from the now added pit-crew and that you start qualifying and practise in the garage. If you ever want to test the physics difference, do the following in both GP4 and F1-2002. 1) Drive flat out down a straight (in the wet if you need emphasis) 2) Let go of the gas and downshift instantly GP4 will keep on cruising, in F1-2002 your back will snap out cause of the torque reaction on the rear tyres. -- Frode

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 00:20:46 +0200, "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote: >As far as I have been able to find out through various reliable sources.. >GP4 is actually the better GAME while F1-2002 is the better SIMULATION. >Which is the best buy for you depends on what you are after.... fun dicing >with the AI = GP4, realistic physics = F1-2002. > >Mikkel I think you are very right.. I did my part of GP4 bashing here, because it's nothing more than GP3 + new graphics, but as a game F1 2002 surely is lacking with poor AI/multiplayer, while the AI of GP3 2000 is fantastic. Andre

F1 2002 has to be played on wheel for a person to like it. GP4 can be played using keyboard, wheel, joystick... but of cos, we all play it on wheel rite... I play mine using keyboard as I still have not gotten myself a wheel and at the moment, despite buggy moments in GP4, its still a better cry than F1 2002. If I have a wheel, my verdict might swing to the preference of EA's instalment... "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:agadgg$khn4m$[email hidden]...

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> > > Everyone should try the demos > > GP4 doesnt have one > > I wonder why > > COUGH AHEM ITS WORSE THAN GP3 COUGH AHEM > > DOug > >

"Tom Lim" <[email hidden]> wrote > F1 2002 has to be played on wheel for a person to like it. > GP4 can be played using keyboard, wheel, joystick... Aye, the steering aid in GP4 is much better than in F1-2002. I'd almost go as far as to say F1-2002 is near unplayable without a wheel, at least in regards to getting any decent times. In GP4 I'm a lot quicker with joystick than wheel. -- Frode

Would you try and type with a steering wheel ? Well don't try and drive with a keyboard then !! ;) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> "Frode" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8FvW8.3885$[email hidden]... > "Tom Lim" <[email hidden]> wrote > > F1 2002 has to be played on wheel for a person to like it. > > GP4 can be played using keyboard, wheel, joystick... > > Aye, the steering aid in GP4 is much better than in F1-2002. I'd almost go > as far as to say F1-2002 is near unplayable without a wheel, at least in > regards to getting any decent times. In GP4 I'm a lot quicker with joystick > than wheel. > > > > -- > Frode > >

I grew up with the GP series, started way back when on the Amiga with an analog steering wheel. I though it wouldn't get any better back then, I was a loyal fan. But when Ubisoft's F1 Racing Simulation was released in 1997 I was impressed and bought it, it was better than Geoff's best efforts at the time. I think most people who like racing simulations are simply going to go for the one that has the best all around experience, including audio, visual and sensorial (physics). As for this debate with which one is better with a keyboard?! I mean, come on, you can only play arcade games with the keyboard, not simulators (well, actually, maybe "Lunar Lander" ;-). "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:oT5W8.432702$352.60431@sccrnsc02... I think you will find those who grew up with Crammond sims like World Circuit and GP2,3, will prefer GP4. Many of those without previous experience in that line seem to gravitate to F1 2002. Now the big difference and one that I think falls in favor if F1 2002 is the # of former GP series users who have changed and now prefer F1 2002. I think the # of changed drivers is greater migrating from gp3/4 to F 2002 than vice versa. No scientific data to back that up, just my 'general' impression after reading many posts about the two sims. dave henrie

In article <%72W8.606$[email hidden]>, "none" <[email hidden]> writes: >Everyone should try the demos then buy the one they personally like most or >simply buy both! Unless something's changed in the last week or so, GP4 doesn't *have* a demo... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett My .sig file is in the shop for repairs... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Mmmm. Very true.... "Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:dO2W8.23211$[email hidden]... > The verdict is... > > Neither is GPL you know :-) > >