GPL - reduced online frame rate

Aarrgghh... After practicing offline for my weekly online league GPL hit, I find my fps is around 10. Qual undrivable. Shut GPL - try again. Same. Reboot - same. Try offline - 36 fps. Smooth. Go back to new tweak (NVHardpage) and set everything to default - 10 fps. Back to 640 x 480 with lots turned off (from max res) and back to 36 fps so i could at least race. Duron 1200 with GF3 ti200 - no probs with everything turned on until this week. I think the only difference was the nvhardpage tweak but why online and not offline. I really appreciate some help on this. Pointers anyone? TIA Tony

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> > Aarrgghh... > After practicing offline for my weekly online league GPL hit, I find my fps > is around 10. Qual undrivable. > Shut GPL - try again. Same. > Reboot - same. > Try offline - 36 fps. Smooth. > Go back to new tweak (NVHardpage) and set everything to default - 10 fps. > Back to 640 x 480 with lots turned off (from max res) and back to 36 fps so > i could at least race. > Duron 1200 with GF3 ti200 - no probs with everything turned on until this > week. I think the only difference was the nvhardpage tweak but why online > and not offline. > I really appreciate some help on this. Pointers anyone? > TIA > Tony

You got FSAA on? I can get it to kind of work on line but it chops 15fps on my rate if I've forgotten to turn it off.

"Tony L" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:joyX8.431892$[email hidden]... > Aarrgghh... > After practicing offline for my weekly online league GPL hit, I find myfps > is around 10. Qual undrivable. > Shut GPL - try again. Same. > Reboot - same. > Try offline - 36 fps. Smooth. > Go back to new tweak (NVHardpage) and set everything to default - 10 fps. > Back to 640 x 480 with lots turned off (from max res) and back to 36 fpsso

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> i could at least race. > Duron 1200 with GF3 ti200 - no probs with everything turned on until this > week. I think the only difference was the nvhardpage tweak but why online > and not offline. > I really appreciate some help on this. Pointers anyone? > TIA > Tony

I get this too with my Kyro2, although not as bad. I can run 1152x864 full detail offline but online I use 1/4 detail on the slider & 800x600. I put it down to a cheapy modem combined with a fairly low quality connection. LAN racing is fine. Malc.

This may not be connected to your problem, but since switching to a new computer with a geforce3 ti500, I now must use a much lower resolution online than what works offline (even with similiar amounts of cars around offline). E.g., I can't run online with more than 1280x1024 but offline 1600x1200 is no problem. This was not the case with my old setup (using a vooodoo 5), so I assumed it was something with the geforce drivers. (I have seen the same behaviour with much lower online framerates on another geforce equipped machine at work.) If there is a way to get the geforce to run as well online as offline I want to know about it :-) _ Mats Lofkvist [email hidden]

On 12 Jul 2002 14:37:45 +0200, Mats Lofkvist <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>This may not be connected to your problem, but since switching >to a new computer with a geforce3 ti500, I now must use a much >lower resolution online than what works offline (even with >similiar amounts of cars around offline). E.g., I can't run >online with more than 1280x1024 but offline 1600x1200 is no >problem. > >This was not the case with my old setup (using a vooodoo 5), >so I assumed it was something with the geforce drivers. >(I have seen the same behaviour with much lower online >framerates on another geforce equipped machine at work.) > >If there is a way to get the geforce to run as well online >as offline I want to know about it :-)

Did you check if your modem or network card (whatever you use to get online) does share an IRQ with your videocard? Remco

This would be a problem with any of the Win9x lines of operating systems, but if it is Windows XP (Home or Pro), it is "stacking" of the IRQs. That's one of the different traits of the Windows 2000/Windows XP systems. I have six different items on IRQ 11, for instance, without any problem or conflict. -- Chris H. "Remco Moedt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 12 Jul 2002 14:37:45 +0200, Mats Lofkvist <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >This may not be connected to your problem, but since switching > >to a new computer with a geforce3 ti500, I now must use a much > >lower resolution online than what works offline (even with > >similiar amounts of cars around offline). E.g., I can't run > >online with more than 1280x1024 but offline 1600x1200 is no > >problem. > > > >This was not the case with my old setup (using a vooodoo 5), > >so I assumed it was something with the geforce drivers. > >(I have seen the same behaviour with much lower online > >framerates on another geforce equipped machine at work.) > > > >If there is a way to get the geforce to run as well online > >as offline I want to know about it :-) > > > Did you check if your modem or network card (whatever you use to get > online) does share an IRQ with your videocard? > > > Remco > > >

>"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote > I get this too with my Kyro2, although not as bad. http://www.racesimcentral.com/guides/hardware/kyro1.shtml Check out this Kyro II guide for GPL and VROC if you didn't know it existed ;-) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

[email hidden] (Remco Moedt) writes: > On 12 Jul 2002 14:37:45 +0200, Mats Lofkvist <[email hidden]> wrote: > >If there is a way to get the geforce to run as well online > >as offline I want to know about it :-) > > Did you check if your modem or network card (whatever you use to get > online) does share an IRQ with your videocard? Oh dear, it was that simple. Yes, the graphics and ethernet cards did share irq. Moving the net card to another slot seems to have made it work as it should. (Someone said this is a w9x issue, but the box at work I noticed the same behaviour on runs w2k, wonder if it still could be the same problem on that one also?) _ Mats Lofkvist [email hidden]

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RJEX8.391$[email hidden]... > >"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote > > I get this too with my Kyro2, although not as bad. > > http://www.racesimcentral.com/guides/hardware/kyro1.shtml > > Check out this Kyro II guide for GPL and VROC if you didn't know itexisted > ;-) Thanks! I'll have a play around & see if anything can be done to improve the problem. Zero complaints offline & LAN though, I get 32-35fps at the back of the grid at 1152x864, although I haven't retried this with the new Ferrari. Malc.

"Mats Lofkvist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> [email hidden] (Remco Moedt) writes: > > Did you check if your modem or network card (whatever you use to get > > online) does share an IRQ with your videocard? > > Oh dear, it was that simple. Yes, the graphics and ethernet cards did > share irq. Moving the net card to another slot seems to have made it > work as it should. (Someone said this is a w9x issue, but the box at > work I noticed the same behaviour on runs w2k, wonder if it still > could be the same problem on that one also?)

I'll give this a go but the (win2k) ACPI put it all through one IRQ anyway. One of the things I tried was disabling ACPI & running the 'Standard PC' driver, this gave separate IRQ's but made no difference to GPL so I changed it back again. Malc.

"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:smKX8.17352$VP6.1178748@stones...

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> "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:RJEX8.391$[email hidden]... > > >"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > I get this too with my Kyro2, although not as bad. > > > > http://www.racesimcentral.com/guides/hardware/kyro1.shtml > > > > Check out this Kyro II guide for GPL and VROC if you didn't know it > existed > > ;-) > > Thanks! I'll have a play around & see if anything can be done to improve

the > problem. Sorted!! Useful tip to remember: If you're running gpl on a Kyro2, disable the latency bars in the vroc 'join/advanced' dialogue box. Cheers, Malc. (now running 1152x864 full detail online!)

"Kevin Clark" wrote ... > Tony L wrote: > > > > Aarrgghh... > > After practicing offline for my weekly online league GPL hit, I find myfps > > is around 10. Qual undrivable. > > Shut GPL - try again. Same. > > Reboot - same. > > Try offline - 36 fps. Smooth. > > Go back to new tweak (NVHardpage) and set everything to default - 10fps. > > Back to 640 x 480 with lots turned off (from max res) and back to 36 fpsso > > i could at least race. > > Duron 1200 with GF3 ti200 - no probs with everything turned on untilthis > > week. I think the only difference was the nvhardpage tweak but whyonline

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> > and not offline. > > I really appreciate some help on this. Pointers anyone? > > TIA > > Tony > > You got FSAA on? > > I can get it to kind of work on line but it chops 15fps on my rate if > I've forgotten to turn it off.

I don't believe I have FSAA on (definitely not checked in GPL). It was one of the things I was trying to get to work with the nvidea tweak software. How can I check it is not on? Thanks Tony

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> "Malc" > wrote... > > "ymenard" wrote ... > > > >"Malc" wrote > > > > I get this too with my Kyro2, although not as bad. > > > > > > http://www.racesimcentral.com/guides/hardware/kyro1.shtml > > > > > > Check out this Kyro II guide for GPL and VROC if you didn't know it > > existed > > > ;-) > > > > Thanks! I'll have a play around & see if anything can be done to improve > the > > problem. > > Sorted!! > > Useful tip to remember: If you're running gpl on a Kyro2, disable the > latency bars in the vroc 'join/advanced' dialogue box.

Worked for me too - looks like it was my upgarde from GF2 to GF3 Thanks heaps!!! Tony

"Malc" > wrote ... Worked for me too - looks like it was my upgarde from GF2 to GF3 Thanks heaps!!! Tony