FF Newbie Question

Friends: I have an oppurtunity to get a Logitech Wingman FF GP or a Thrustmaster Nascar FF but I have to decicde this week. Any one used both have any constructive comments as to which one feels better/work better? More realistic? I just love the feel of the T master wheels (have had 3 so far). Also, I know N2002 has FF. What other sims (GPL, NHeat, etc.) support Force Feedback? Thanks! -Brian Mc

"Brian McLernon" wrote... > Friends: > I have an oppurtunity to get a Logitech > Wingman FF GP or a Thrustmaster Nascar FF > <snip> I would say go with the Logitech. The Thrusmaster one has a bigger CPU load and, reportedly, suffers from build-quality/reliability issues. That said... the Trustmaster pedals are likely to feel a lot better than the Logitech equivalents. If you get the Logitech you should also consider a 3rd party pedal set (Act labs / CH). Basically anything newer than GP2 supports force feedback in some shape or form, so I think you're safe on the game front. Jan. =---

"Brian McLernon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_qhY8.513236$352.85569@sccrnsc02... > Friends: > I have an oppurtunity to get a Logitech Wingman FF GP or aThrustmaster > Nascar FF but I have to decicde this week. Any one used both have any > constructive comments as to which one feels better/work better? More > realistic? I just love the feel of the T master wheels (have had 3 sofar). > Also, I know N2002 has FF. What other sims (GPL, NHeat, etc.) support > Force Feedback? Thanks! > > -Brian Mc > Lots of titles have force feedback, but only a few really produce effects that enhance the driving. Most FF are merely rumble strips or collision detections...When you get actual car feedback then you are really beginning to get a real benefit from FF. The best these days that I know of are: F1 2002 or 2001(patched), GPL(patched), N4/N2k2. I don't have experience with the driving types like Need for Speed so I can't comment on those. Most of the rallye sims have FF and that is a critical enhancement as the rough roadways really shake up your driving. I have only used Mobil 1 Rally Championship(or Rally Championship 2000 outside the US). So there too I can't say if Colin Mcrae2 is better or worse. As far as your two choices for wheels, both are low end price points. I have heard some reliability issues with the Thrustmaster wheel, the pedals on the Logitech are awful. You might want to try finding a reconditioned MOMO wheel or look at the Microsoft FF wheel, just make sure your system is USB compatible. dave henrie

"Dave Henrie" wrote... > <snip> > I don't have experience with the driving types > like Need for Speed so I can't comment on those. FF in NFS:PU is about par for the driving experience, I'd say. MBTR and STCC2 also have fairly good FF. Nothing special, but doesn't detract from immersion either. > Most of the rallye sims have FF and that is a > critical enhancement as the rough roadways > really shake up your driving. I have only > used Mobil 1 Rally Championship(or Rally > Championship 2000 outside the US). Agree... good FF in this title eventhough the model is prone to overresponding to surface roughness and some wear rates border on the ridiculous, IMO. > So there too I can't say if Colin Mcrae2 is better > or worse. At no point does CMR2 feel like driving something off-road, let alone a rally car. Biggest disappointment in recent times for me.

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> As far as your two choices for wheels, both are > low end price points. I have heard some reliability > issues with the Thrustmaster wheel, the pedals on > the Logitech are awful. You might want to try > finding a reconditioned MOMO wheel or look at the > Microsoft FF wheel, just make sure your system is > USB compatible.

Agreed... going up the price scale a bit is worth it. Jan. =---