GF4 Ti4600 Killer -- Radeon 9700 Benchmarks

www.anandtech.com Wow, this new Radeon is the video upgrade to end all upgrades. 256% faster in Q3A at 1600x1200x32 over the Ti4600! In UT2003 the R300 is 54% faster at 1600x1200x32 Antalus benchmark. Basing the score off of Anand's recent benchmarking of the GF4 Ti4600 at that resolution and settings which was 41.1 fps, the new Radeon's score by my calculations should be about 63.3 fps. Anand wasn't allowed to quote fps numbers for the R300 (only %) since the drivers are still Alpha but he secretely hinted how you could figure it out! -Tim

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> > www.anandtech.com > > Wow, this new Radeon is the video upgrade to end all upgrades. 256% faster > in Q3A at 1600x1200x32 over the Ti4600! > > In UT2003 the R300 is 54% faster at 1600x1200x32 Antalus benchmark. Basing > the score off of Anand's recent benchmarking of the GF4 Ti4600 at that > resolution and settings which was 41.1 fps, the new Radeon's score by my > calculations should be about 63.3 fps. Anand wasn't allowed to quote fps > numbers for the R300 (only %) since the drivers are still Alpha but he > secretely hinted how you could figure it out!

Yep, the race is on for real now, ATI seems to have stepped up to the plate, will be interesting to see what nVidia has in the pipeline, good thing I don't need a new vid card just yet, I can just sit back and wait for the smoke to clear a bit :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Tim Miser wrote: > > > > www.anandtech.com > > > > Wow, this new Radeon is the video upgrade to end all upgrades. 256%faster > > in Q3A at 1600x1200x32 over the Ti4600! > > > > In UT2003 the R300 is 54% faster at 1600x1200x32 Antalus benchmark.Basing > > the score off of Anand's recent benchmarking of the GF4 Ti4600 at that > > resolution and settings which was 41.1 fps, the new Radeon's score by my > > calculations should be about 63.3 fps. Anand wasn't allowed to quotefps

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> > numbers for the R300 (only %) since the drivers are still Alpha but he > > secretely hinted how you could figure it out! > > Yep, the race is on for real now, ATI seems to have stepped up to the > plate, will be interesting to see what nVidia has in the pipeline, good > thing I don't need a new vid card just yet, I can just sit back and wait > for the smoke to clear a bit :-) >

If only the Parnhalia had had a bit more poke it would be a 3 way fight :D Doug

Tim Miser schrieb:

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> www.anandtech.com > > Wow, this new Radeon is the video upgrade to end all upgrades. 256% faster > in Q3A at 1600x1200x32 over the Ti4600! > > In UT2003 the R300 is 54% faster at 1600x1200x32 Antalus benchmark. Basing > the score off of Anand's recent benchmarking of the GF4 Ti4600 at that > resolution and settings which was 41.1 fps, the new Radeon's score by my > calculations should be about 63.3 fps. Anand wasn't allowed to quote fps > numbers for the R300 (only %) since the drivers are still Alpha but he > secretely hinted how you could figure it out!

That sounds really cool, but just as with racing sims (RL!) I have a limit for what I'm willing to spend for a graphics card. The 220 Euros I spent for my G4 4200 is pretty much the max. This thing has a SRP of US$399. Yikes! -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now?

Doug Ellison wrote: > > If only the Parnhalia had had a bit more poke it would be a 3 way fight :D I haven't seen any benchmarks on it yet, but the previews didn't sound too promising no Oh well, at least we have 2 serious contenders now, and just as in the CPU war, this can only be good for the consumer.....especially those of us who refuses to buy nVidia cards of course :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Doug Ellison wrote: > > > > If only the Parnhalia had had a bit more poke it would be a 3 way fight:D

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> > I haven't seen any benchmarks on it yet, but the previews didn't sound > too promising no > > Oh well, at least we have 2 serious contenders now, and just as in the > CPU war, this can only be good for the consumer.....especially those of > us who refuses to buy nVidia cards of course :-) >

After being stung with CHRONIC drivers for the origional Radeon - I'm still in refuse-to-buy ATI mode - but this might sway me come November when the NV30 comes out - and just about matches if for speed yet is �100 more expensive Doug

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:14:13 +0200, Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]> wrote: >That sounds really cool, but just as with racing sims (RL!) I have a limit >for what I'm willing to spend for a graphics card. The 220 Euros I spent for >my G4 4200 is pretty much the max. This thing has a SRP of US$399. Yikes! Yea, but that price won't stick for too long so just wait a while (6 months) and you can have one too. And the drivers willl be pretty well bug free by then too.

I guess the R9700 will be lower soon. $300 even maybe.. and there will be a lower clocked version too, so dont jump the ship yet :) "Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Tim Miser schrieb: > > www.anandtech.com > > > > Wow, this new Radeon is the video upgrade to end all upgrades. 256%faster > > in Q3A at 1600x1200x32 over the Ti4600! > > > > In UT2003 the R300 is 54% faster at 1600x1200x32 Antalus benchmark.Basing > > the score off of Anand's recent benchmarking of the GF4 Ti4600 at that > > resolution and settings which was 41.1 fps, the new Radeon's score by my > > calculations should be about 63.3 fps. Anand wasn't allowed to quotefps > > numbers for the R300 (only %) since the drivers are still Alpha but he > > secretely hinted how you could figure it out! > > That sounds really cool, but just as with racing sims (RL!) I have a limit > for what I'm willing to spend for a graphics card. The 220 Euros I spentfor

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> my G4 4200 is pretty much the max. This thing has a SRP of US$399. Yikes! > > -- > l8er > ronny > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change > to take effect. Reboot now? >

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Doug Ellison wrote: > > > > If only the Parnhalia had had a bit more poke it would be a 3 way fight:D

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> > I haven't seen any benchmarks on it yet, but the previews didn't sound > too promising no > > Oh well, at least we have 2 serious contenders now, and just as in the > CPU war, this can only be good for the consumer.....especially those of > us who refuses to buy nVidia cards of course :-) >

Yeah, but I bet you'd take one for free if... Oh wait a second, Nevermind... ;P db

db wrote: > > Yeah, but I bet you'd take one for free if... > Oh wait a second, > Nevermind... You'd better start watching your back........ Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:33:16 -0700, "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>www.anandtech.com > >Wow, this new Radeon is the video upgrade to end all upgrades. 256% faster >in Q3A at 1600x1200x32 over the Ti4600! > >In UT2003 the R300 is 54% faster at 1600x1200x32 Antalus benchmark. Basing >the score off of Anand's recent benchmarking of the GF4 Ti4600 at that >resolution and settings which was 41.1 fps, the new Radeon's score by my >calculations should be about 63.3 fps. Anand wasn't allowed to quote fps >numbers for the R300 (only %) since the drivers are still Alpha but he >secretely hinted how you could figure it out!

Wow, I wonder if Nvidia is going to push the Ge5 out faster now. Without competition, they've been tending to hold off on releasing new cards, but it looks like ATI is trying to win the performance war. As an aside, WTF is up with using Quake 3 as a benchmark still? Cards that came out 3 years ago could run it at 100fps. Also, I haven't read the Anand article. Did he test the FSAA and Antistropic filtering? Jason

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> www.anandtech.com > > Wow, this new Radeon is the video upgrade to end all upgrades. 256% faster > in Q3A at 1600x1200x32 over the Ti4600! > > In UT2003 the R300 is 54% faster at 1600x1200x32 Antalus benchmark. Basing > the score off of Anand's recent benchmarking of the GF4 Ti4600 at that > resolution and settings which was 41.1 fps, the new Radeon's score by my > calculations should be about 63.3 fps. Anand wasn't allowed to quote fps > numbers for the R300 (only %) since the drivers are still Alpha but he > secretely hinted how you could figure it out! > > -Tim

Noooooooo!!!! I knew the day would come....

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> db wrote: > > > > Yeah, but I bet you'd take one for free if... > > Oh wait a second, > > Nevermind... > > You'd better start watching your back........ >

Sorry, db

"jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Wow, I wonder if Nvidia is going to push the Ge5 out faster now. > Without competition, they've been tending to hold off on releasing new > cards, but it looks like ATI is trying to win the performance war. The problem Nivida has is there nv30 will be based on a .13 die and it will be at least Nov but very possibly January before the yields will be high enough for them to release the nv30. It's not something they can just push out faster. > As an aside, WTF is up with using Quake 3 as a benchmark still? Cards > that came out 3 years ago could run it at 100fps. As Anand said, using Q3A was only just for comparison's sake. > Also, I haven't read the Anand article. Did he test the FSAA and > Antistropic filtering? He did and he was impressed but didn't have time to do a thourough comparison of the picture quality but the Radeon FSAA framerates also blew away the Ti4600. -Tim

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> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > db wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, but I bet you'd take one for free if... > > > Oh wait a second, > > > Nevermind... > > > > You'd better start watching your back........ > > > > Sorry,

Yeah, well, I don't like having deep dark secrets revealed on r.a.s. Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

"Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > He did and he was impressed but didn't have time to do a thourough > comparison of the picture quality but the Radeon FSAA framerates also blew > away the Ti4600. > > -Tim > They have enough time to throw up 10 or 12 web pages about the product, but they don't have time to enable fsaa for a couple more tests? I don't want to sound alarmist...but there's something rotten in Denmark, and as far as I know Goy is still in Norway.......(is there a difference?) dave henrie <wink wink>

Dave Henrie wrote: > > They have enough time to throw up 10 or 12 web pages about the > product, but they don't have time to enable fsaa for a couple more tests? I > don't want to sound alarmist...but there's something rotten in Denmark, and > as far as I know Goy is still in Norway.......(is there a difference?) > dave henrie <wink wink> Ah, nice try Dave, but we don't get offended by being mixed up with the Danes, they are rather nice people actually, makes some excellent beer too, Swedes on the other hand.....and their beer is no good at all....:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:18:26 GMT, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Dave Henrie wrote: >> >> They have enough time to throw up 10 or 12 web pages about the >> product, but they don't have time to enable fsaa for a couple more tests? I >> don't want to sound alarmist...but there's something rotten in Denmark, and >> as far as I know Goy is still in Norway.......(is there a difference?) >> dave henrie <wink wink> > >Ah, nice try Dave, but we don't get offended by being mixed up with the >Danes, they are rather nice people actually, makes some excellent beer >too, Swedes on the other hand.....and their beer is no good at >all....:-)

I bet their air force would annihilate yours. =) Jason

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:T31_8.281$dC.165@sccrnsc03... > > They have enough time to throw up 10 or 12 web pages about the > product, but they don't have time to enable fsaa for a couple more tests?I > don't want to sound alarmist...but there's something rotten in Denmark,and > as far as I know Goy is still in Norway.......(is there a difference?) > dave henrie <wink wink> Actually, you might want to read the review. The review was 24 web pages and had a lot of coverage AND tests of FSAA and Ansiotropic Filtering. The Radeon 9700 is consistently 250% faster at 4xFSAA compared to the Ti4600 in UT2003 and Q3A. What they didn't have in the review was picture comparisons but that will be coming once they get their own 9700. The smell coming from Copenhagen might well be the odor coming from those sweating nvidia salespeople. After all, don't they shower only once a week there?! ;) -Tim

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> > On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:18:26 GMT, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Dave Henrie wrote: > >> > >> They have enough time to throw up 10 or 12 web pages about the > >> product, but they don't have time to enable fsaa for a couple more tests? I > >> don't want to sound alarmist...but there's something rotten in Denmark, and > >> as far as I know Goy is still in Norway.......(is there a difference?) > >> dave henrie <wink wink> > > > >Ah, nice try Dave, but we don't get offended by being mixed up with the > >Danes, they are rather nice people actually, makes some excellent beer > >too, Swedes on the other hand.....and their beer is no good at > >all....:-) > > I bet their air force would annihilate yours. =)

We have an Air Force ???? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--