GP1 doesn't work and GP3 does!

having recently acquired GP3 ,wich much impressed me,I obviously became much interested in the GP saga and also got the GP1 for curiosity. But surprisingly ,for me, it didn't work ,complaining it needed more convencional or extended memory! Is this a normal procedure,and if it is,what should I do?

"Alfredo Jorge Pereira" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CDD_8.1666$A%[email hidden]... > having recently acquired GP3 ,wich much impressed me,I obviously becamemuch > interested in the GP saga and also got the GP1 for curiosity. > But surprisingly ,for me, it didn't work ,complaining it needed more > convencional or extended memory! > Is this a normal procedure,and if it is,what should I do? > > Forget gp1. it is a dos based game that was made before Windows became a viable OS. I'm sure it can be made to work under windows, but if you don't know what convential memory is or how to tweek the config.sys and autoexec.bat files then you really are over your head. GP3 is a windows based title. Stick with that. dave henrie

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"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote > Forget gp1. it is a dos based game that was made before Windows becamea > viable OS. I'm sure it can be made to work under windows, but if youdon't > know what convential memory is or how to tweek the config.sys and > autoexec.bat files then you really are over your head. GP3 is a windows > based title. Stick with that. > dave henrie Additional info: Keep in mind that GP3 does not work 100% with XP, so if you wish to keep playing GP3 don't upgrade your OS to XP anytime soon. -- Frode

>"Alfredo Jorge Pereira" <[email hidden]> wrote > having recently acquired GP3 ,wich much impressed me,I obviously becamemuch > interested in the GP saga and also got the GP1 for curiosity. > But surprisingly ,for me, it didn't work ,complaining it needed more > convencional or extended memory! > Is this a normal procedure,and if it is,what should I do? Go in your graphic menu of GP3, take everything off in low res and "voila!" you have GP1. It's exactly the same, except for different tracks ;-) I mean, *exactly* the same! lol Seriously, World Circuit is a DOS game, and often needs severe tweaking for it to match memory settings. On modern PC and modern OS, it's a very difficult task. I suggest that if you want to play old game pre-Windows95, that you get yourself an old computer and have it's only purpose to play those games. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

"Alfredo Jorge Pereira" <[email hidden]> wrote on 21 Jul 2002: > having recently acquired GP3 ,wich much impressed me,I obviously > became much interested in the GP saga and also got the GP1 for > curiosity. But surprisingly ,for me, it didn't work ,complaining > it needed more convencional or extended memory! > Is this a normal procedure,and if it is,what should I do? Nostalgia alert, nostalgia alert! Back in prehistoric times (ie before about 1998) lots of games ran under "pure" DOS, and - thanks to a design "feature" of PC memory management from many years ago, getting such games to work often required long-winded and tedious messing about with memory settings etc. If you have Win 98 or earlier, you can run your PC in "pure DOS", and run a util called "memmaker" that will guide you through the necessary process. As Dave Henrie says, though, you do need to have at least a basic idea of things like the difference between EMS and XMS, editing BUFFERS and FILES settings and so on. And that's just the memory - you've still to go through the utter nightmare that is manually setting up a sound card that doesn't quite fit with what the setup prog expects... If you have WinXP or the like, you can't run in "pure DOS" in any case (without a *lot* of messing about with the PC's configuration, anyway), so this is rather academic. I can quite see the nostalgic appeal of "GP1" (I was playing Revs the other day on my BBC emulator), but retro-computing does require a certain willingness to "get under the bonnet" and mess about... -- "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. The GPL Scrapyard: http://www.btinternet.com/~gplscrapyard

David Buttery <[email hidden]> wrote on 22 Jul 2002: > Nostalgia alert, nostalgia alert! Back in prehistoric times (ie > before about 1998) lots of games ran under "pure" DOS<snip> I *think* just about the last car-related game of any note to run under DOS was the original Grand Theft Auto, but I might well be wrong about that. -- "After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. The GPL Scrapyard: http://www.btinternet.com/~gplscrapyard

On 21 Jul 2002 23:39:39 GMT, David Buttery <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"Alfredo Jorge Pereira" <[email hidden]> wrote on 21 Jul 2002: > >> having recently acquired GP3 ,wich much impressed me,I obviously >> became much interested in the GP saga and also got the GP1 for >> curiosity. But surprisingly ,for me, it didn't work ,complaining >> it needed more convencional or extended memory! >> Is this a normal procedure,and if it is,what should I do? > >Nostalgia alert, nostalgia alert! Back in prehistoric times (ie >before about 1998) lots of games ran under "pure" DOS, and - thanks >to a design "feature" of PC memory management from many years ago, >getting such games to work often required long-winded and tedious >messing about with memory settings etc.

I don't wish to be the vocabulary policeman here, David, but doesn't the word "nostalgia" imply positive memories? :-) I get headaches remembering how long it took me to create a boot disk that would let me play Wing Commander 3 without waiting 10 minutes between level loads. I still weep when I recall how I had to disable the mouse in order to get certain games running. I realize that PCs are nowhere near the "plug and play" console ideal, but boy have we come a long way! Martin (misses his Epyx Fastload cartridge) Long Live Nigel Mansell!

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 02:42:07 GMT, Martin Ursua <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On 21 Jul 2002 23:39:39 GMT, David Buttery ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>"Alfredo Jorge Pereira" <[email hidden]> wrote on 21 Jul 2002: >> >>> having recently acquired GP3 ,wich much impressed me,I obviously >>> became much interested in the GP saga and also got the GP1 for >>> curiosity. But surprisingly ,for me, it didn't work ,complaining >>> it needed more convencional or extended memory! >>> Is this a normal procedure,and if it is,what should I do? >> >>Nostalgia alert, nostalgia alert! Back in prehistoric times (ie >>before about 1998) lots of games ran under "pure" DOS, and - thanks >>to a design "feature" of PC memory management from many years ago, >>getting such games to work often required long-winded and tedious >>messing about with memory settings etc. > > I don't wish to be the vocabulary policeman here, David, but >doesn't the word "nostalgia" imply positive memories? :-) > > I get headaches remembering how long it took me to create a >boot disk that would let me play Wing Commander 3 without waiting 10 >minutes between level loads. I still weep when I recall how I had to >disable the mouse in order to get certain games running. I realize >that PCs are nowhere near the "plug and play" console ideal, but boy >have we come a long way! >

Hmmm... Well, my current configuration under Win95R2.1 gives me 623K free memory. There's a site that tells you how to tweak it even more, just let me look for the URL. Basically, the only changes I need to make are to the EMM386.EXE loading or not... >Martin (misses his Epyx Fastload cartridge) For the Commodore 64, right? >Long Live Nigel Mansell! -- __________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke \_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com '-_____|( remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying