Redline Pedals Questions

Hi, I've decided it's time to upgrade my sorry Logitech pedals to something decent like maybe some TSW or Act Labs, but then somebody suggested some Redlines. One of the main problems with my Logis is the insufficient throttle travel. The other problem is just the general comfort level e.g. I seem to use my big toes for braking and accelerating due to their design and this gets tiring. Anyhow, my questions are... 1. How long is the accelerator travel on the Redlines (compared to, say, the MOMO or LWFF?) 2. Sure, the two spring brake pedal feels good but does it make you any faster? ; ) 3. How long is the waiting list? (I guess only Nigel can answer this) I'm not prepared to wait much longer than 6 months.. 4. Is it worth getting a clutch pedal? I seem to be able to beat most people off the line on VROC ; ) -- Damien Smith [email hidden] ICQ: 77028579 F1 2001 rank: -11.512 "Nothing is work unless you'd rather be doing something else" -- J.M. Barrie

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> > Hi, > > I've decided it's time to upgrade my sorry Logitech pedals to something > decent like maybe some TSW or Act Labs, but then somebody suggested some > Redlines. One of the main problems with my Logis is the insufficient > throttle travel. The other problem is just the general comfort level e.g. I > seem to use my big toes for braking and accelerating due to their design and > this gets tiring. Anyhow, my questions are... > > 1. How long is the accelerator travel on the Redlines (compared to, say, the > MOMO or LWFF?)

It's about as long as you'd expect it to be in a real road car or a road car converted for racing use, I would think that a purpose buildt race car would have a shorter throw, don't have a Logi wheel to compare with, but the throw at the lower end of the pedal is about 3" > 2. Sure, the two spring brake pedal feels good but does it make you any > faster? ; ) It makes you more consistent as the second sprin kicks in about the same place as the brakes start to "bite", just before locking up, when braking in Papy sims I can brake just at the point where the wheels start to lock up 99 out of a 100 times, and I can lock/unlock the brakes at will as it's much easier to modulate pressure than position, and once the 2nd spring kicks in you need to apply a fair bit of pressure to move the pedal further Because of this you need to have the pedals against a wall or something, and forget about using a sviwelling office chair with wheels, you'll only find yourself haning onto the wheel to stop your chair rolling away from rolling away from your desk :-) You can tell Nigel has done a fair bit of laps in Papy sims, and you won't be using your toes to brake anymore, unless you have really strong toes that is > 3. How long is the waiting list? (I guess only Nigel can answer this) I'm > not prepared to wait much longer than 6 months.. My brother waited about 6 months I think, that was a while back, don't think Nigel has quite that long waiting list these days, seem to remember him having one set avilable from his latest batch a couple of weeks ago > 4. Is it worth getting a clutch pedal? I seem to be able to beat most > people off the line on VROC ; ) Depends, the price difference isn't that huge, sooner or later you'll think of that clutch pedal as a sound investment, and looking at the video of Tom Pabst lapping Sears with a set of BRD pedals makes me wish I could master the art of heel/toing as it certainly adds realism, I've used it a bit in N2002 just for kicks, and it's kinda cool but hard to get used to after years of sim racing without it, but if nothing else it's kinda cool to use the clutch and a bit of throttle to get you pointed in the right direction again after one of my many spins This is something I hope they include in RL btw, "force heel/toing" as anything else is totally unrealistic Will you be faster with a set of Redline pedals, who knows, but they do add a touch of realism and aids in the "suspense of disbelief" and personally I consider mine to be one of the best investments I've made since I started sim racing, they've lasted about 2 years or so now and I've suffered 1 broken throttle spring in that time, I will have to change the pots soon though, I get occassional jitters when calibrating so I know they live on borrowed time I have used a TSW briefly, and although I don't question the mechanical quality of their setups and I kinda liked the wheel, the brake pedal can't be compared to Redline, and if that is important to you, they look a whole lot better :-), you may need to rearrange your seating position though, my pedals are of the earlier design and I need to sit fairly close to the floor as the pedals are at a very steep angle (is this enough to earn my comission Nigel, or should I throw in a few pics as well ?) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

Goy Larsen wrote: > Because of this you need to have the pedals against a wall or something, > and forget about using a sviwelling office chair with wheels, you'll > only find yourself hanging onto the wheel to stop your chair rolling away > from your desk :-) People who sim race while sitting in those kind of chairs need locking up, IMO. Have you noticed they sometimes post in here asking for suggestion on how to stop their chairs from rolling away. Not to mention asking how to fix wheels to tables! They didn't play with construction toys as children, obviously. Cheers Gerry

"Gerry Aitken" wrote... > <snip> > People who sim race while sitting in those kind of chairs need locking > up, IMO. Ooops. Jan. ;-) =---

What a brilliant reply! Much appreciated. It sounds like these pedals really are what I've been after. Might have to swallow my aussie pride and order a kiwi product... ; ) -- Damien Smith [email hidden] ICQ: 77028579

Goy Larsen wrote: > Because of this you need to have the pedals against a wall or something, > and forget about using a sviwelling office chair with wheels, you'll > only find yourself haning onto the wheel to stop your chair rolling away > from rolling away from your desk :-) LOL I once resembled that remark. That's how I came to be a right foot braker. :-) -- Fester A lotta people poke fun, and that's alright But when I start pokin' back they get all uptight You can't cap with the master, son So sit your ass down before I blast you one -- Kid Rock

Gerry Aitken wrote: > People who sim race while sitting in those kind of chairs need locking > up, IMO. > Have you noticed they sometimes post in here asking for suggestion on > how to stop their chairs from rolling away. Not to mention asking how to > fix wheels to tables! Bite me. Real men brake with the right foot while the left blocks their chair from moving. It's a skill. :-) > > They didn't play with construction toys as children, obviously. Didn't need to. Had something bigger & better to play with. -- Fester A lotta people poke fun, and that's alright But when I start pokin' back they get all uptight You can't cap with the master, son So sit your ass down before I blast you one -- Kid Rock

Someone have the link to Redline Pedal, I seem to have lost it. "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ahgdg4$scmbs$[email hidden]... > Hi, > > I've decided it's time to upgrade my sorry Logitech pedals to something > decent like maybe some TSW or Act Labs, but then somebody suggested some > Redlines. One of the main problems with my Logis is the insufficient > throttle travel. The other problem is just the general comfort level e.g.I > seem to use my big toes for braking and accelerating due to their designand > this gets tiring. Anyhow, my questions are... > > 1. How long is the accelerator travel on the Redlines (compared to, say,the > MOMO or LWFF?) > > 2. Sure, the two spring brake pedal feels good but does it make you any > faster? ; ) > > 3. How long is the waiting list? (I guess only Nigel can answer this)I'm

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> not prepared to wait much longer than 6 months.. > > 4. Is it worth getting a clutch pedal? I seem to be able to beat most > people off the line on VROC ; ) > > -- > Damien Smith > [email hidden] > ICQ: 77028579 > F1 2001 rank: -11.512 > "Nothing is work unless you'd rather be doing something else" -- J.M. > Barrie > > >

Here ya go: http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm -- Tim Doyle TDRacin� Online TeamECR Sim MotorSports www.TeamECR.com VRW Team Owner www.VirtualRacingWorld.com "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9X9%8.40693$[email hidden]... > Someone have the link to Redline Pedal, I seem to have lost it. > > "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ahgdg4$scmbs$[email hidden]... > > Hi, > > > > I've decided it's time to upgrade my sorry Logitech pedals to something > > decent like maybe some TSW or Act Labs, but then somebody suggested some > > Redlines. One of the main problems with my Logis is the insufficient > > throttle travel. The other problem is just the general comfort level e.g. > I > > seem to use my big toes for braking and accelerating due to their design > and > > this gets tiring. Anyhow, my questions are... > > > > 1. How long is the accelerator travel on the Redlines (compared to, say, > the > > MOMO or LWFF?) > > > > 2. Sure, the two spring brake pedal feels good but does it make you any > > faster? ; ) > > > > 3. How long is the waiting list? (I guess only Nigel can answer this) > I'm > > not prepared to wait much longer than 6 months.. > > > > 4. Is it worth getting a clutch pedal? I seem to be able to beat most > > people off the line on VROC ; ) > > > > -- > > Damien Smith > > [email hidden] > > ICQ: 77028579 > > F1 2001 rank: -11.512 > > "Nothing is work unless you'd rather be doing something else" -- J.M. > > Barrie > > > > > > > >

http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm Jeff "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9X9%8.40693$[email hidden]...

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> Someone have the link to Redline Pedal, I seem to have lost it. > > "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ahgdg4$scmbs$[email hidden]... > > Hi, > > > > I've decided it's time to upgrade my sorry Logitech pedals to something > > decent like maybe some TSW or Act Labs, but then somebody suggested some > > Redlines. One of the main problems with my Logis is the insufficient > > throttle travel. The other problem is just the general comfort level

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> I > > seem to use my big toes for braking and accelerating due to their design > and > > this gets tiring. Anyhow, my questions are... > > > > 1. How long is the accelerator travel on the Redlines (compared to, say, > the > > MOMO or LWFF?) > > > > 2. Sure, the two spring brake pedal feels good but does it make you any > > faster? ; ) > > > > 3. How long is the waiting list? (I guess only Nigel can answer this) > I'm > > not prepared to wait much longer than 6 months.. > > > > 4. Is it worth getting a clutch pedal? I seem to be able to beat most > > people off the line on VROC ; ) > > > > -- > > Damien Smith > > [email hidden] > > ICQ: 77028579 > > F1 2001 rank: -11.512 > > "Nothing is work unless you'd rather be doing something else" -- J.M. > > Barrie > > > > > > > >

Thanks Jeff, found it already though. Your everywhere, just like me :) Schooner2000 www.corl.ca - Canadian Online Racing League "Jeff Trites" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Dga%8.2066$[email hidden]...

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> http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm > > Jeff > > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9X9%8.40693$[email hidden]... > > Someone have the link to Redline Pedal, I seem to have lost it. > > > > "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:ahgdg4$scmbs$[email hidden]... > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've decided it's time to upgrade my sorry Logitech pedals to

something > > > decent like maybe some TSW or Act Labs, but then somebody suggestedsome > > > Redlines. One of the main problems with my Logis is the insufficient > > > throttle travel. The other problem is just the general comfort level > e.g. > > I > > > seem to use my big toes for braking and accelerating due to theirdesign > > and > > > this gets tiring. Anyhow, my questions are... > > > > > > 1. How long is the accelerator travel on the Redlines (compared to,say, > > the > > > MOMO or LWFF?) > > > > > > 2. Sure, the two spring brake pedal feels good but does it make youany

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> > > faster? ; ) > > > > > > 3. How long is the waiting list? (I guess only Nigel can answer this) > > I'm > > > not prepared to wait much longer than 6 months.. > > > > > > 4. Is it worth getting a clutch pedal? I seem to be able to beat

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> > > people off the line on VROC ; ) > > > > > > -- > > > Damien Smith > > > [email hidden] > > > ICQ: 77028579 > > > F1 2001 rank: -11.512 > > > "Nothing is work unless you'd rather be doing something else" -- J.M. > > > Barrie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Damien Smith wrote: > > What a brilliant reply! Much appreciated. It sounds like these pedals > really are what I've been after. > > Might have to swallow my aussie pride and order a kiwi product... ; ) Woohoo, another commission in the bank, you won't be sorry though, the pedals themselves are top of the line and Nigel is very service minded, I had some special requests for wiring when I ordered mine, no problem at all Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

Hi Damien Watch out for my review of the pedals. I will be posting it within a few days on my web site. www.thomasandamaya.com I can reveal the conclusion here though - GO GET THEM! Thomas "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ahgdg4$scmbs$[email hidden]... > Hi, > > I've decided it's time to upgrade my sorry Logitech pedals to something > decent like maybe some TSW or Act Labs, but then somebody suggested some > Redlines. One of the main problems with my Logis is the insufficient > throttle travel. The other problem is just the general comfort level e.g.I > seem to use my big toes for braking and accelerating due to their designand > this gets tiring. Anyhow, my questions are... > > 1. How long is the accelerator travel on the Redlines (compared to, say,the > MOMO or LWFF?) > > 2. Sure, the two spring brake pedal feels good but does it make you any > faster? ; ) > > 3. How long is the waiting list? (I guess only Nigel can answer this)I'm

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> not prepared to wait much longer than 6 months.. > > 4. Is it worth getting a clutch pedal? I seem to be able to beat most > people off the line on VROC ; ) > > -- > Damien Smith > [email hidden] > ICQ: 77028579 > F1 2001 rank: -11.512 > "Nothing is work unless you'd rather be doing something else" -- J.M. > Barrie > > >

Hi Damien I uploaded my review - pictures will come later tonight. have a look at: http://www.thomasandamaya.com/thomasandamaya/hardware/redline_pedals_review.html Best regards Thomas