New IRL fan

Now I really want to see a Cart or IRL racing sim!! My niece and I went to the IRL race at Nashville Superspeedway last saturday night. I must admit, it was a real blast and I enjoyed it immensely. It was a great race, and those darn open wheelers were aboslutely flying around that 1.33 mile speedway. The top qualifiers were in the 203 mph average speed range. It was incredible watching them , then after the race they opened the garage area, and my niece and I got to go into it, look at some cars up close, and talk to some of the pit crews. We stayed in there till they ran us out. I came so close to coming back on Sunday to do the drive training thing, 6 laps for 300 bucks - my only saving grace from me doing that was it was threatening rain that day, so I backed out of doing it. I know it would have been quite an experience, and if they do it again when they come back next year I think I will have to have a little nest egg put away for it. I have always been a die-hard Nascar fan, but I must say I am now very much interested in these open wheelers. Don Burnette

It's ok, they have councilors for your problem <G> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JCx09.306958$[email hidden]... : Now I really want to see a Cart or IRL racing sim!! : : My niece and I went to the IRL race at Nashville Superspeedway last saturday : night. I must admit, it was a real blast and I enjoyed it immensely. It was : a great race, and those darn open wheelers were aboslutely flying around : that 1.33 mile speedway. The top qualifiers were in the 203 mph average : speed range. It was incredible watching them , then after the race they : opened the garage area, and my niece and I got to go into it, look at some : cars up close, and talk to some of the pit crews. We stayed in there till : they ran us out. I came so close to coming back on Sunday to do the drive : training thing, 6 laps for 300 bucks - my only saving grace from me doing : that was it was threatening rain that day, so I backed out of doing it. I : know it would have been quite an experience, and if they do it again when : they come back next year I think I will have to have a little nest egg put : away for it. : : I have always been a die-hard Nascar fan, but I must say I am now very much : interested in these open wheelers. : : Don Burnette : : : :

Yep... The IRL, the best kept secret in motorsports! Glad you enjoyed it, now you'll have to make the 6 hour drive up to Indianapolis for the 500 next year! "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JCx09.306958$[email hidden]... > Now I really want to see a Cart or IRL racing sim!! > > My niece and I went to the IRL race at Nashville Superspeedway lastsaturday > night. I must admit, it was a real blast and I enjoyed it immensely. Itwas

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> a great race, and those darn open wheelers were aboslutely flying around > that 1.33 mile speedway. The top qualifiers were in the 203 mph average > speed range. It was incredible watching them , then after the race they > opened the garage area, and my niece and I got to go into it, look at some > cars up close, and talk to some of the pit crews. We stayed in there till > they ran us out. I came so close to coming back on Sunday to do the drive > training thing, 6 laps for 300 bucks - my only saving grace from me doing > that was it was threatening rain that day, so I backed out of doing it. I > know it would have been quite an experience, and if they do it again when > they come back next year I think I will have to have a little nest egg put > away for it. > > I have always been a die-hard Nascar fan, but I must say I am now very

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> interested in these open wheelers. > > Don Burnette > > > >

Congrats on graduating to open wheel racing. :-) Once you've made those baby steps, start watching F1.....where the best drivers in the world race. "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JCx09.306958$[email hidden]... > Now I really want to see a Cart or IRL racing sim!! > > My niece and I went to the IRL race at Nashville Superspeedway lastsaturday > night. I must admit, it was a real blast and I enjoyed it immensely.It was > a great race, and those darn open wheelers were aboslutely flyingaround > that 1.33 mile speedway. The top qualifiers were in the 203 mphaverage > speed range. It was incredible watching them , then after the racethey > opened the garage area, and my niece and I got to go into it, look atsome > cars up close, and talk to some of the pit crews. We stayed in theretill > they ran us out. I came so close to coming back on Sunday to do thedrive > training thing, 6 laps for 300 bucks - my only saving grace from medoing > that was it was threatening rain that day, so I backed out of doingit. I > know it would have been quite an experience, and if they do it againwhen > they come back next year I think I will have to have a little nest eggput > away for it. > > I have always been a die-hard Nascar fan, but I must say I am now verymuch

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> interested in these open wheelers. > > Don Burnette > > > >

I went to the Richmond race Don. It was my first Indy car race, and I was impressed as well. I have always wanted to see one, and still would like to see them at a place where they can really open them up. The pre-race festivities were pretty cool, and the price was cheap! ($30). I've been an open wheel fan since watching Ayrton Senna in the late eighties-early nineties. -- Tim Doyle TDRacin� Online TeamECR Sim MotorSports www.TeamECR.com VRW Team Owner www.VirtualRacingWorld.com "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JCx09.306958$[email hidden]... > Now I really want to see a Cart or IRL racing sim!! > > My niece and I went to the IRL race at Nashville Superspeedway last saturday > night. I must admit, it was a real blast and I enjoyed it immensely. It was > a great race, and those darn open wheelers were aboslutely flying around > that 1.33 mile speedway. The top qualifiers were in the 203 mph average > speed range. It was incredible watching them , then after the race they > opened the garage area, and my niece and I got to go into it, look at some > cars up close, and talk to some of the pit crews. We stayed in there till > they ran us out. I came so close to coming back on Sunday to do the drive > training thing, 6 laps for 300 bucks - my only saving grace from me doing > that was it was threatening rain that day, so I backed out of doing it. I > know it would have been quite an experience, and if they do it again when > they come back next year I think I will have to have a little nest egg put > away for it. > > I have always been a die-hard Nascar fan, but I must say I am now very much > interested in these open wheelers. > > Don Burnette > > > >

"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JCx09.306958$[email hidden]... > > I have always been a die-hard Nascar fan, but I must say I am now verymuch > interested in these open wheelers. > > Don Burnette > Welcome to the club. I have watched all the IRL races this season on TV here in England and enjoyed them all. As an aside, I have never understood why people are fans of one form of motorsport over another. I was wondering why you watched NASCAR racing without taking an interest in the IRL? As far as I'm concerned I watch almost all forms of motorsport (except tractor pulling and monster trucks). Take today for example. I will watch the F1 race then the IRL race and the CART race. If the IRL race hadn't clashed with them I would have also watched the highlights of last week's NASCAR race (the earliest we get to see them). If there's a MotoGP race on I would watch that too. Basically I can't get enough motorsport :) Phil --- Race Sim Central Administrator http://www.racesimcentral.com

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> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JCx09.306958$[email hidden]... > > > > I have always been a die-hard Nascar fan, but I must say I am now very > much > > interested in these open wheelers. > > > > Don Burnette > > > > Welcome to the club. I have watched all the IRL races this season on TV

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> in England and enjoyed them all. > > As an aside, I have never understood why people are fans of one form of > motorsport over another. I was wondering why you watched NASCAR racing > without taking an interest in the IRL? > > As far as I'm concerned I watch almost all forms of motorsport (except > tractor pulling and monster trucks). Take today for example. I will watch > the F1 race then the IRL race and the CART race. If the IRL race hadn't > clashed with them I would have also watched the highlights of last week's > NASCAR race (the earliest we get to see them). If there's a MotoGP race on

I > would watch that too. Basically I can't get enough motorsport :) > > Phil You and I both Phil :) John > --- > Race Sim Central Administrator > http://www.racesimcentral.com > >

On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:54:49 GMT, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I came so close to coming back on Sunday to do the drive >training thing, 6 laps for 300 bucks You probably would have been faster than most of the real drivers...

The IRL has some good racing I'll admit. When there's green flag action. The problem is half the race is run under caution. Medaka wrote:

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> On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:54:49 GMT, "Don Burnette" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>I came so close to coming back on Sunday to do the drive >>training thing, 6 laps for 300 bucks >> > > You probably would have been faster than most of the > real drivers... > >

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>"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:JCx09.306958$[email hidden]... >> >> I have always been a die-hard Nascar fan, but I must say I am now very >much >> interested in these open wheelers. >> >> Don Burnette >> > >Welcome to the club. I have watched all the IRL races this season on TV here >in England and enjoyed them all. > >As an aside, I have never understood why people are fans of one form of >motorsport over another. I was wondering why you watched NASCAR racing >without taking an interest in the IRL? >

My main interest is in NASCAR, but when ever I go to see the Truck Series, I also get a ticket for the IRL event. I don't follow the IRL like I do NASCAR, but seeing an event live is very exciting and any NASCAR fan that just dismisses it is really missing out. Brian Oster

Huh, my experience has been just the opposite. In the 2 IRL events that I have been too at TMS, there have been very few cautions. Brian Oster On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:45:30 GMT, Brad Larocque <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>The IRL has some good racing I'll admit. When there's green flag action. >The problem is half the race is run under caution. > >Medaka wrote: > >> On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:54:49 GMT, "Don Burnette" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >>>I came so close to coming back on Sunday to do the drive >>>training thing, 6 laps for 300 bucks >>> >> >> You probably would have been faster than most of the >> real drivers... >> >>

I think that is because Texas is a really easy track to drive. At Michigan, there were a ton of cautions, and most of the drivers were basically out of control. I like the IRL races, but will never pay to see one. "Brian Oster" <bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Huh, my experience has been just the opposite. In the 2 IRL events > that I have been too at TMS, there have been very few cautions. > > Brian Oster > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:45:30 GMT, Brad Larocque <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >The IRL has some good racing I'll admit. When there's green flag action. > >The problem is half the race is run under caution. > > > >Medaka wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:54:49 GMT, "Don Burnette" > >> <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I came so close to coming back on Sunday to do the drive > >>>training thing, 6 laps for 300 bucks > >>> > >> > >> You probably would have been faster than most of the > >> real drivers... > >> > >> >

If you never have payed to see one, I would highly recommend it. Kind of like Nascar, you really don't appreciate the full intensity of the racing, and the speeds those cars are really turning , till you see them live. I will be definitely making the yearly IRL visit in Nashville a regular routine. Don Burnette "Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pU119.35442$[email hidden]... > I think that is because Texas is a really easy track to drive. AtMichigan, > there were a ton of cautions, and most of the drivers were basically outof

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> control. I like the IRL races, but will never pay to see one. > > "Brian Oster" <bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Huh, my experience has been just the opposite. In the 2 IRL events > > that I have been too at TMS, there have been very few cautions. > > > > Brian Oster > > > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:45:30 GMT, Brad Larocque <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > >The IRL has some good racing I'll admit. When there's green flag

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> > >The problem is half the race is run under caution. > > > > > >Medaka wrote: > > > > > >> On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:54:49 GMT, "Don Burnette" > > >> <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>I came so close to coming back on Sunday to do the drive > > >>>training thing, 6 laps for 300 bucks > > >>> > > >> > > >> You probably would have been faster than most of the > > >> real drivers... > > >> > > >> > > > > > >

Race is not a relative word... but they give the Macy's day parade a hell of a run for their money. -- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott ICQ# 4395450 http://www.Husted.cc "Jonathan Diehl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Congrats on graduating to open wheel racing. :-) > > Once you've made those baby steps, start watching F1.....where the best > drivers in the world race. >

*bitch slaps Don* Wake up, Wake up! It's only a bad dream Don. =) -- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott ICQ# 4395450 http://www.Husted.cc "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JCx09.306958$[email hidden]... > Now I really want to see a Cart or IRL racing sim!! > > My niece and I went to the IRL race at Nashville Superspeedway last saturday > night. I must admit, it was a real blast and I enjoyed it immensely. It was > a great race, and those darn open wheelers were aboslutely flying around > that 1.33 mile speedway. The top qualifiers were in the 203 mph average > speed range. It was incredible watching them , then after the race they > opened the garage area, and my niece and I got to go into it, look at some > cars up close, and talk to some of the pit crews. We stayed in there till > they ran us out. I came so close to coming back on Sunday to do the drive > training thing, 6 laps for 300 bucks - my only saving grace from me doing > that was it was threatening rain that day, so I backed out of doing it. I > know it would have been quite an experience, and if they do it again when > they come back next year I think I will have to have a little nest egg put > away for it. > > I have always been a die-hard Nascar fan, but I must say I am now very much > interested in these open wheelers. > > Don Burnette > > > >

I invite you to come to Nazareth and watch the race. You'll have no problem finding time in between green flag runs to use the bathroom and pick up a beer and hotdog. Then again, there aren't any lines either. <VBG> -- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott ICQ# 4395450 http://www.Husted.cc "Brian Oster" <bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Huh, my experience has been just the opposite. In the 2 IRL events > that I have been too at TMS, there have been very few cautions. > > Brian Oster > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:45:30 GMT, Brad Larocque <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >The IRL has some good racing I'll admit. When there's green flag action. > >The problem is half the race is run under caution. > > > >Medaka wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:54:49 GMT, "Don Burnette" > >> <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I came so close to coming back on Sunday to do the drive > >>>training thing, 6 laps for 300 bucks > >>> > >> > >> You probably would have been faster than most of the > >> real drivers... > >> > >> >

In article <pY319.335617$[email hidden]>, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> writes: >If you never have payed to see one, I would highly recommend it. Kind of >like Nascar, you really don't appreciate the full intensity of the racing, >and the speeds those cars are really turning , till you see them live. I >will be definitely making the yearly IRL visit in Nashville a regular >routine. I've been at an F1 race and CART race, both on street courses... I've never attended an oval race, but it looks GREAT on TV. One of these years... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett My .sig file is in the shop for repairs... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> In article <pY319.335617$[email hidden]>, "Don > Burnette" <[email hidden]> writes: > > >If you never have payed to see one, I would highly recommend it. Kind of > >like Nascar, you really don't appreciate the full intensity of the racing, > >and the speeds those cars are really turning , till you see them live. I > >will be definitely making the yearly IRL visit in Nashville a regular > >routine. > > I've been at an F1 race and CART race, both on street courses... I've never > attended an oval race, but it looks GREAT on TV. > One of these years...

I always make it a point to get to the fence at whatever race I'm at to fully experience the speed of the cars going by. At the Indy 500 this year I was slightly under the influence of alcohol when I finally made the trek to the fence but it was worth it - those cars FLY! I was at the entrance to turn one so I suppose they were doing close to 230mph or maybe even faster. I was so blown away I turned around and pumped my fists in the air in excitement looking for my friend many rows up. After about 15 seconds of that I realized that a lot of people in the first 10 or 15 rows were taking part in my excitement pumping their fists as well :) I was a little embarrassed but what the heck - we were all having a GREAT time! I'm definitely going again next year. - David Cook

Lol, was wondering how long you'd let this post go unanswered :) John "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Jlb19.1400$[email hidden]... > Race is not a relative word... but they give the Macy's day parade a hellof

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> a run for their money. > > -- > Scott B. Husted > PA-Scott > ICQ# 4395450 > http://www.Husted.cc > > > "Jonathan Diehl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Congrats on graduating to open wheel racing. :-) > > > > Once you've made those baby steps, start watching F1.....where the best > > drivers in the world race. > > > > >

after watching the mich race sunday,all i can say is wow great racing, very exciting,and with the little car owner driver fueds it was very interesting. "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mob19.1403$[email hidden]... > I invite you to come to Nazareth and watch the race. You'll have no > problem finding time in between green flag runs to use the bathroom andpick

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> up a beer and hotdog. Then again, there aren't any lines either. <VBG> > > -- > Scott B. Husted > PA-Scott > ICQ# 4395450 > http://www.Husted.cc > > > "Brian Oster" <bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Huh, my experience has been just the opposite. In the 2 IRL events > > that I have been too at TMS, there have been very few cautions. > > > > Brian Oster > > > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:45:30 GMT, Brad Larocque <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > >The IRL has some good racing I'll admit. When there's green flag

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> > >The problem is half the race is run under caution. > > > > > >Medaka wrote: > > > > > >> On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:54:49 GMT, "Don Burnette" > > >> <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>I came so close to coming back on Sunday to do the drive > > >>>training thing, 6 laps for 300 bucks > > >>> > > >> > > >> You probably would have been faster than most of the > > >> real drivers... > > >> > > >> > > > > >

LOL. Seriously, it was very cool and a good race. :) Don "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nmb19.1401$[email hidden]...

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> *bitch slaps Don* > > Wake up, Wake up! It's only a bad dream Don. =) > > -- > Scott B. Husted > PA-Scott > ICQ# 4395450 > http://www.Husted.cc > > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JCx09.306958$[email hidden]... > > Now I really want to see a Cart or IRL racing sim!! > > > > My niece and I went to the IRL race at Nashville Superspeedway last > saturday > > night. I must admit, it was a real blast and I enjoyed it immensely. It > was > > a great race, and those darn open wheelers were aboslutely flying around > > that 1.33 mile speedway. The top qualifiers were in the 203 mph average > > speed range. It was incredible watching them , then after the race they > > opened the garage area, and my niece and I got to go into it, look at

some > > cars up close, and talk to some of the pit crews. We stayed in theretill > > they ran us out. I came so close to coming back on Sunday to do thedrive > > training thing, 6 laps for 300 bucks - my only saving grace from medoing > > that was it was threatening rain that day, so I backed out of doing it.I > > know it would have been quite an experience, and if they do it againwhen > > they come back next year I think I will have to have a little nest eggput

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> > away for it. > > > > I have always been a die-hard Nascar fan, but I must say I am now very > much > > interested in these open wheelers. > > > > Don Burnette > > > > > > > > > >

Yeah, it is usually much easier to appreciate racing live, particularly at oval tracks where you can see most of the track. It was sad though at Nazareth. When the Busch series is there... you know it by the events going on around the area, the traffic, etc. When the IRL was there, you hardly knew there was a race going on. I'm not a big open wheel fan myself to begin with. Throw in Tony George and ovals only and to me it's on par with the demolition derby at the fairgrounds in terms of validity. ;) -- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott ICQ# 4395450 http://www.Husted.cc "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ykj19.429537$[email hidden]... > LOL. Seriously, it was very cool and a good race. > :) > > Don > > > "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:nmb19.1401$[email hidden]... > > *bitch slaps Don* > > > > Wake up, Wake up! It's only a bad dream Don. =) > > > > -- > > Scott B. Husted > > PA-Scott > > ICQ# 4395450 > > http://www.Husted.cc > > > > > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:JCx09.306958$[email hidden]... > > > Now I really want to see a Cart or IRL racing sim!! > > > > > > My niece and I went to the IRL race at Nashville Superspeedway last > > saturday > > > night. I must admit, it was a real blast and I enjoyed it immensely. It > > was > > > a great race, and those darn open wheelers were aboslutely flying around > > > that 1.33 mile speedway. The top qualifiers were in the 203 mph average > > > speed range. It was incredible watching them , then after the race they > > > opened the garage area, and my niece and I got to go into it, look at > some > > > cars up close, and talk to some of the pit crews. We stayed in there > till > > > they ran us out. I came so close to coming back on Sunday to do the > drive > > > training thing, 6 laps for 300 bucks - my only saving grace from me > doing > > > that was it was threatening rain that day, so I backed out of doing it. > I > > > know it would have been quite an experience, and if they do it again > when > > > they come back next year I think I will have to have a little nest egg > put > > > away for it. > > > > > > I have always been a die-hard Nascar fan, but I must say I am now very > > much > > > interested in these open wheelers. > > > > > > Don Burnette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

LOL John Hey.. It was a mild reply. ;) I left out the part about F1 drivers needing all those driving aids and being quiche eating 1/2 pint horse jockey wannabes. <VBG> ;) -- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott ICQ# 4395450 http://www.Husted.cc "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Lol, was wondering how long you'd let this post go unanswered :) > > John > > > "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Jlb19.1400$[email hidden]... > > Race is not a relative word... but they give the Macy's day parade a hell > of > > a run for their money. > > > > -- > > Scott B. Husted > > PA-Scott > > ICQ# 4395450 > > http://www.Husted.cc > > > > > > "Jonathan Diehl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Congrats on graduating to open wheel racing. :-) > > > > > > Once you've made those baby steps, start watching F1.....where the best > > > drivers in the world race. > > > > > > > > > > >

ROFL, oh man, here we go, lol. By driving aids, do you mean all that high price, fancy, hi-tech junk that doesn't work for about 1/4 of the grid each race ? :) John "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1Mw19.1818$[email hidden]... > LOL John > > Hey.. It was a mild reply. ;) I left out the part about F1 drivers > needing all those driving aids and being quiche eating 1/2 pint horsejockey

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> wannabes. <VBG> ;) > > -- > Scott B. Husted > PA-Scott > ICQ# 4395450 > http://www.Husted.cc > > > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Lol, was wondering how long you'd let this post go unanswered :) > > > > John > > > > > > "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Jlb19.1400$[email hidden]... > > > Race is not a relative word... but they give the Macy's day parade a > hell > > of > > > a run for their money. > > > > > > -- > > > Scott B. Husted > > > PA-Scott > > > ICQ# 4395450 > > > http://www.Husted.cc > > > > > > > > > "Jonathan Diehl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Congrats on graduating to open wheel racing. :-) > > > > > > > > Once you've made those baby steps, start watching F1.....where the > best > > > > drivers in the world race. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

"Scott B. Husted" < > I'm not a big open wheel fan myself to begin with. Throw in Tony Georgeand > ovals only and to me it's on par with the demolition derby at the > fairgrounds in terms of validity. ;) > > -- > Scott B. Husted Geez Scott, why do you have to INSULT demo derbys so??? lol dave henrie

Hey there is nothing better than a Tractor pull and derby combo! Way more exciting than F1. There is one similarity between a derby and F1. You can tell how good its gonna be by the first big wreck. :) MadDAWG

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 02:38:13 GMT, "Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I think that is because Texas is a really easy track to drive. At Michigan, >there were a ton of cautions, and most of the drivers were basically out of >control. I like the IRL races, but will never pay to see one. I detest Tony George and prefer road racing to ovals, but you don't have to *lie* about the IR race. The Michigan race had 5 cautions for 25 laps (out of a 200 lap race). Only two cautions were for crashes (Ward and Cheever [giggle]). Something like 20 of 25 cars were running at the end of the race. The last 25 laps were some of the best racing we've seen lately. Of course, that sort of "good racing" means taking big chances in close quarters, like the last 20 laps of a NASCAR restrictor plate race. :| I had the feeling that Sarah hasn't quite developed the situational awareness for this, but she didn't cause any trouble. It's a hallmark of the sort of entertainment-engineered spec-racing we see in America these days. It's exciting, but it has two downsides: 1) the potential for large-scale disaster with long-duration "pack racing" (NASCAR regularly has this now at its restrictor plate races [aka "the big one"], but participant injuries are usually kept to a managable level and they've been lucky with no spectator injuries), 2) the artificial closeness of the racing leads to unreasonable expectations and boredom with "real racing" (racing with less spec- & racing action-management, such as F1 or even CART) -- a bit like raising a kid on a steady diet of MTV and cartoons and then expecting him to be able to sit quietly and watch PBS. :) When you think about some of the innovation seen at the Speedway in the '60s, it really makes you sick looking at the IRL-series-approved- (but-maybe-not-if-you-build-a-CART-chassis) sort of politcal "stuff" going on today. Open wheel suffers, Tony fiddles... :( Ah well, enough ranting for today... "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

> -- a bit like raising a kid on a steady diet of MTV and cartoons and > then expecting him to be able to sit quietly and watch PBS. :) I think PBS is even more exciting than F1. Of course it would be nice if the pledge drives were over have way thru the season like the F1 championship. :) MadDAWG