i think i got it to work but now the menus act up unless i hold down the gas
pedal halfway? is this a joke?
Grand Prix 4 wheel axis problems spark sim-or-arcade debate
A user found GP4's menus misbehaved with split-axis pedals. Replies offered fixes, but the thread became a debate over whether GP4 is an arcade game, with Gerry Aitken saying no multiplayer meant no sim and Iain Mackenzie defending its merits. Jan Verschueren criticised GP4's limited force feedback, and Ronald Stoehr found its LAN multiplayer poor.
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no it ain't a joke....sad isn't it ?
Get f12002
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"frederickson" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news:
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> i think i got it to work but now the menus act up unless i hold down the
gas
> pedal halfway? is this a joke?
>
>
>
GP is not a Sim, it's an arcade game so is far more suited to keyboard or
joypad. If you want to use wheel get F1 2002 or GPL which both have the very
best FF effects and car handling which for me equals fun.
Some Call Me Tim
Have you actually used GP4? Although I'm a great fan of F1 2002 (and all of
the EA series), GP4 has many merits as well - not least is the wheel FF
despite the lack of kerb feedback. To describe it as an arcade game is quite
frankly laughable.
Iain
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> GP is not a Sim, it's an arcade game so is far more suited to keyboard or
> joypad. If you want to use wheel get F1 2002 or GPL which both have thevery
> best FF effects and car handling which for me equals fun.
>
> Some Call Me Tim
>
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Some Call Me Tim wrote:
>
> GP is not a Sim, it's an arcade game so is far more suited to keyboard or
> joypad. If you want to use wheel get F1 2002 or GPL which both have the very
> best FF effects and car handling which for me equals fun.
I agree with Tim! If you measure GP4 by other sims like GPL, F12k2 and
N2002 it is truly awful. But if you measure it by the better arcade
racers, it's crap too, imo.
I did buy it, but only so I could try it for myself, return it and make
a fuss about how crap it is. The guy in the shop is recommending F12k2
to people who are asking which is better, and of the people who have
taken his advice, none returned F12k2 for gp4. But plenty have returned
to change GP4 for f12k2.
Gerry
PS. Re: GP4, It's NOT GPL. :)
Iain Mackenzie wrote:
>
> Have you actually used GP4? Although I'm a great fan of F1 2002 (and all of
> the EA series), GP4 has many merits as well - not least is the wheel FF
> despite the lack of kerb feedback. To describe it as an arcade game is quite
> frankly laughable.
> Iain
'Laughable' is the word that always springs to mind when i think of
gp/3/4. GP4 can only really be classed as arcade, imho, because it has
no proper multiplayer support. If you can't race humans over the net
then it's a wank arcade game, imho.
Gerry
On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 04:58:40 -0400, "frederickson" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>i think i got it to work but now the menus act up unless i hold down the gas
>pedal halfway? is this a joke?
There is an option to disable the joystick for menus.
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Sorry Gerry, but to judge whether software is a sim or arcade by whether
there is multi player support is also laughable. Personally, I have no
interest in multiplayer, but either way, that is completely irrelevant to
the issue at hand. Each to his own though.
RAS has always been too quick to criticise the GP series over the years.
There are many other forums and opinions out there (HG for example) about
the EA/Geoff C issue.
Iain
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> Iain Mackenzie wrote:
> >
> > Have you actually used GP4? Although I'm a great fan of F1 2002 (andall of
> > the EA series), GP4 has many merits as well - not least is the wheel FF
> > despite the lack of kerb feedback. To describe it as an arcade game isquite
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> > frankly laughable. > > Iain > > 'Laughable' is the word that always springs to mind when i think of > gp/3/4. GP4 can only really be classed as arcade, imho, because it has > no proper multiplayer support. If you can't race humans over the net > then it's a wank arcade game, imho. > > Gerry
> RAS has always been too quick to criticise the GP series over the years.
GP3 and GP4 have both, quite rightly, been criticised for being little more
than patches on GP2 - which in this modern day is NOT up to scratch.
I mean - COME ON - where's the tyre temperatures in GP4 - so VITAL to
setting up a car.
Any sim that allows you - with a default setup - to run through eau rouge
with a missing front wing and front right wheel can rightly be labelled a
complete joke imho
DOug
Well, I for one was a HUGE fan of GP2....and I got IMMENSELY disappointed by
GP3 which was barely better than GP2 with all the patches, add-ons and other
tweaks available on the net.
The problem is that the other sims have improved a lot with 3D cars,
realistic FF, Dual axis support and so on, and the GP series from GP3 on are
always 1 step back, if GP4 would have come out 2 years ago it would have
been a huge hit (that is to say before F12001 or F1RC) but right now it's
just not up to par anymore, I believe that MICROPROSE was a real Sim
company, and that HASBRO is NOT, and that makes a big difference, let us not
forget that it took 3 tries for EA to make a really good sim with F12002
because F12000, CS and F12001 were really "perfectible" in many ways, and
F12002 still is, especially this shitty controller deadzone issue which GPL
from 1998 doesn't have...
But as far as the end user is concerned right now the best things are F12002
overall, F1RC for the track accuracy, although the AI has been overly
criticized in F1RC I still like to play it very much and then F12001-GP4
would be very close together...
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> Sorry Gerry, but to judge whether software is a sim or arcade by whether
> there is multi player support is also laughable. Personally, I have no
> interest in multiplayer, but either way, that is completely irrelevant to
> the issue at hand. Each to his own though.
> RAS has always been too quick to criticise the GP series over the years.
> There are many other forums and opinions out there (HG for example) about
> the EA/Geoff C issue.
> Iain
>
> "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > Iain Mackenzie wrote:
> > >
> > > Have you actually used GP4? Although I'm a great fan of F1 2002 (and
> all of
> > > the EA series), GP4 has many merits as well - not least is the wheel
FF
> > > despite the lack of kerb feedback. To describe it as an arcade game is
> quite
> > > frankly laughable.
> > > Iain
> >
> > 'Laughable' is the word that always springs to mind when i think of
> > gp/3/4. GP4 can only really be classed as arcade, imho, because it has
> > no proper multiplayer support. If you can't race humans over the net
> > then it's a wank arcade game, imho.
> >
> > Gerry
>
>
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Iain Mackenzie wrote:
<SNIP>
> Personally, I have no interest in multiplayer, but either way, that is
> completely irrelevant to the issue at hand.
<SNIP>
Says it all really! <ROLLS EYES>
Gerry
Doug Ellison wrote:
> Any sim that allows you - with a default setup - to run through eau rouge
> with a missing front wing and front right wheel can rightly be labelled a
> complete joke imho
Agreed, Doug. But take the 'sim' out of that statement and replace with
'arcade', and that best describes GP4. It's just a second rate arcade
racer with f1 car shapes and tracks, imho.
Gerry
I have both and like both. They both have their owns strengths and
weaknesses. Things I don't like about F12002 is the low speed grip, the AI
ability to take high speed corners much faster than you average driver (me)
and the AI cutting corners. Generally the AI just doesn't seem as good as
GP4. No doubt each year or so we get updates (patches) from both of these
companies and get to pay full price for them. EA (ISI) as made much bigger
improvements over the years but still carries over many things from the
previous version that should be fixed or improved. GP 4 physics aren't up to
where they should be at this stage of the game, controller setup still
stinks.
As for the on track racing, right now I'm enjoy GP 4 a bit more. It sure is
nice to be able to save a full length race too.
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> > RAS has always been too quick to criticise the GP series over the years.
>
> GP3 and GP4 have both, quite rightly, been criticised for being littlemore
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> than patches on GP2 - which in this modern day is NOT up to scratch. > > I mean - COME ON - where's the tyre temperatures in GP4 - so VITAL to > setting up a car. > > Any sim that allows you - with a default setup - to run through eau rouge > with a missing front wing and front right wheel can rightly be labelled a > complete joke imho > > DOug > >Fred,
The way to fix this is simple. As far as I remember (I don't have the game
installed any longer) you need to go into the edit menu portion of the
screens. Once you go to there and return out the problem with the menus
will be solved. That at least worked for me.
Alanb
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> i think i got it to work but now the menus act up unless i hold down thegas
> pedal halfway? is this a joke?
>
>
>
"Iain Mackenzie" wrote...
> Have you actually used GP4? Although I'm a great fan of
> F1 2002 (and all of the EA series), GP4 has many merits
> as well - not least is the wheel FF despite the lack of
> kerb feedback. To describe it as an arcade game is quite
> frankly laughable.
To describe GP4's wheel feedback as force feedback is simply laugable. I've
only just noticed this, but it's a mere progressive centering spring with
effects for bumps and knocks. I thought it had improved in GP3 2k (and,
physics wise, my iniatial impression is that GP4 is GP3 2k with more grip),
but it's a clever ruse. FF in GPx has no real relation to grip at any one
corner at all, it's the visual and sound cues that make it seem that way.
Check it out next time you play, I'm sure you'll see what I mean.
Jan.
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Jan Verschueren schrieb:
Hmm, it's very subtle, I agree, but I really believe (or imagine?)
different grip levels and wheel resistance. At least if you lock up
the front wheels there is no centering anymore (at least with the Momo).
l8er
ronny
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> "Iain Mackenzie" wrote... > >>Have you actually used GP4? Although I'm a great fan of >>F1 2002 (and all of the EA series), GP4 has many merits >>as well - not least is the wheel FF despite the lack of >>kerb feedback. To describe it as an arcade game is quite >>frankly laughable. > > > To describe GP4's wheel feedback as force feedback is simply laugable. I've > only just noticed this, but it's a mere progressive centering spring with > effects for bumps and knocks. I thought it had improved in GP3 2k (and, > physics wise, my iniatial impression is that GP4 is GP3 2k with more grip), > but it's a clever ruse. FF in GPx has no real relation to grip at any one > corner at all, it's the visual and sound cues that make it seem that way. > Check it out next time you play, I'm sure you'll see what I mean."Ronald Stoehr" wrote...
> Jan Verschueren schrieb:
> > <snip>
> Hmm, it's very subtle, I agree, but I really believe
> (or imagine?) different grip levels and wheel
> resistance. At least if you lock up the front wheels
> there is no centering anymore (at least with the Momo).
True, it's "modulated" according to certain influences (locking wheel, rears
spinning up), but you can't rely on it. Can't "feel" how hard you're
pushing, gotta look and listen out for that. Very annoying now there's sound
from the other cars in traffic.
Jan.
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Completely agree with everything you say!
It's all about strengths and weaknesses, and not over-reaction to weaknesses
which is what happens regularly on ras.
Iain
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> I have both and like both. They both have their owns strengths and
> weaknesses. Things I don't like about F12002 is the low speed grip, the AI
> ability to take high speed corners much faster than you average driver(me)
> and the AI cutting corners. Generally the AI just doesn't seem as good as
> GP4. No doubt each year or so we get updates (patches) from both of these
> companies and get to pay full price for them. EA (ISI) as made much bigger
> improvements over the years but still carries over many things from the
> previous version that should be fixed or improved. GP 4 physics aren't upto
> where they should be at this stage of the game, controller setup still
> stinks.
> As for the on track racing, right now I'm enjoy GP 4 a bit more. It sureis
> nice to be able to save a full length race too.
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> >
> > > RAS has always been too quick to criticise the GP series over theyears.
rouge
> > with a missing front wing and front right wheel can rightly be labelleda
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> > > > GP3 and GP4 have both, quite rightly, been criticised for being little > more > > than patches on GP2 - which in this modern day is NOT up to scratch. > > > > I mean - COME ON - where's the tyre temperatures in GP4 - so VITAL to > > setting up a car. > > > > Any sim that allows you - with a default setup - to run through eauQuoted text (7 lines)
> > complete joke imho > > > > DOug > > > > > >>"Iain Mackenzie" <g> wrote
> It's all about strengths and weaknesses, and not over-reaction toweaknesses
> which is what happens regularly on ras.
If you ain't happy with r.a.s. you know where to go.
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Iain Mackenzie wrote:
>
> Completely agree with everything you say!
> It's all about strengths and weaknesses, and not over-reaction to weaknesses
> which is what happens regularly on ras.
> Iain
I don't know why or how, but if I say...
'GP4 is shit'
'GP4 is shit'
'GP4 is shit'
you always turn up!
AMAZING!!
Nice to hear from you again Frankie, and making another very valuable
contribution.
Didn't say anything about not being happy with ras, merely pointed out that
on some occasions over the years - as you well know - the reactions to some
software titles by some people are not particularly well thought through.
This is a case in point, i.e the suggestion that GP4 (or anything else for
that matter) is arcade because of the poor multiplayer implementation.
Yours as ever,
Iain
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> >"Iain Mackenzie" <g> wrote > > It's all about strengths and weaknesses, and not over-reaction to > weaknesses > > which is what happens regularly on ras. > > If you ain't happy with r.a.s. you know where to go. > > > [ ] <--- door > > > > GP4 is one of the worst software effort, *ever*. > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >
> Any sim that allows you - with a default setup - to run through eau rouge
> with a missing front wing and front right wheel can rightly be labelled a
> complete joke imho
>
Pretty silly I agree, but I can take Eau Rouge flat out in F1 2002 as well
with default setups and without a front wing. Haven't tried without the tyre
yetl!
Iain
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You don't even have to say it 3 times - once is enough!
Yet again it seems I have to make my position clear:
1) F1 2002 is a better sim than GP4 IMHO.
2) Both have their problems
3) Both have their merits
4) I don't care if you or anyone else thinks that GP4 or anything else is
shit. That's your opinion, and I really couldn't care, it doesn't matter to
me at all. In this case, I don't rate GP4 that highly, but to say it's shit
and an arcade game because of poor multiplayer - that is what I respond to -
stupid logic.
Iain
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> >
> > Completely agree with everything you say!
> > It's all about strengths and weaknesses, and not over-reaction toweaknesses
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> > which is what happens regularly on ras. > > Iain > > I don't know why or how, but if I say... > > 'GP4 is shit' > 'GP4 is shit' > 'GP4 is shit' > > you always turn up! > > AMAZING!!>"Iain Mackenzie" <g> wrote
> Nice to hear from you again Frankie, and making another very valuable
> contribution.
Well it is my complete pleasure.
> Didn't say anything about not being happy with ras, merely pointed outthat
> on some occasions over the years - as you well know - the reactions tosome
> software titles by some people are not particularly well thought through.
> This is a case in point, i.e the suggestion that GP4 (or anything else for
> that matter) is arcade because of the poor multiplayer implementation.
No, it is evident of your displeasing of this newsgroup, pointing out the
"other" places on the Internet where there is purposively an alternate
universe where miraculously GP4 is praised as almighty God.
But go back to your point, the suggestion that GP4 is an arcade game because
of it's lack of serious multiplayer (or heck, plain multiplayer) is only
*one* of the reason why Geoff's simulations are no more considered serious
by the simracing community. Of course detractors exists, but with each
title (GP3, GP2000 and GP4) they finally see the light and realise that
Geoff's sims are only buffed up 15 years old F1GP's.
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>"Iain Mackenzie" <g> wrote
> Pretty silly I agree, but I can take Eau Rouge flat out in F1 2002 as well
> with default setups and without a front wing.
Well Eau Rouge is completely wrong in F1 2002, but the whole Spa track is I
would say pretty well modeled in GP4. It's a good enough excuse to say that
it is possible in F12002, considering the wrong and different
elevation/radius/banking/track width ;-)
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Iain Mackenzie wrote:
Bugger, i said it and you turned up...again! As for your idea of 'stupid
logic', well correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't you say you had no
interest in MP? That strikes me as stupid.
Let me make my position clear.
1. A sim without MP is not a sim at all, imo.
True because:
2. AI is no substitute for human drivers.
and
3. Human drivers cannot be simulated.
Hmm, I wonder...
'Go away'
'Go away'
'Go away'
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> > You don't even have to say it 3 times - once is enough! > > Yet again it seems I have to make my position clear: > 1) F1 2002 is a better sim than GP4 IMHO. > 2) Both have their problems > 3) Both have their merits > 4) I don't care if you or anyone else thinks that GP4 or anything else is > shit. That's your opinion, and I really couldn't care, it doesn't matter to > me at all. In this case, I don't rate GP4 that highly, but to say it's shit > and an arcade game because of poor multiplayer - that is what I respond to - > stupid logic. > > IainI agree, it is better modelled in GP4, but the driveability of GP4 without a
front wing is pretty silly. F1 2002 is much better in this respect but not
perfect.
Iain
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> >"Iain Mackenzie" <g> wrote
> > Pretty silly I agree, but I can take Eau Rouge flat out in F1 2002 aswell
> > with default setups and without a front wing.
>
>
> Well Eau Rouge is completely wrong in F1 2002, but the whole Spa track isI
> would say pretty well modeled in GP4. It's a good enough excuse to saythat
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> it is possible in F12002, considering the wrong and different > elevation/radius/banking/track width ;-) > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >Gerry my boy, you need some help!
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> > shit. That's your opinion, and I really couldn't care, it doesn't matterto
> > me at all. In this case, I don't rate GP4 that highly, but to say it'sshit
> > and an arcade game because of poor multiplayer - that is what I respondto -
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> Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > > > You don't even have to say it 3 times - once is enough! > > > > Yet again it seems I have to make my position clear: > > 1) F1 2002 is a better sim than GP4 IMHO. > > 2) Both have their problems > > 3) Both have their merits > > 4) I don't care if you or anyone else thinks that GP4 or anything elseQuoted text (27 lines)
> > stupid logic. > > > > Iain > > Bugger, i said it and you turned up...again! As for your idea of 'stupid > logic', well correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't you say you had no > interest in MP? That strikes me as stupid. > > Let me make my position clear. > > 1. A sim without MP is not a sim at all, imo. > > True because: > > 2. AI is no substitute for human drivers. > > and > > 3. Human drivers cannot be simulated. > > Hmm, I wonder... > > 'Go away' > > 'Go away' > > 'Go away'ymenard schrieb:
Oh my god, the Chicken is back and still ruling the ng... ;)
>
>
>
> GP4 is one of the worst software effort, *ever*.
Utter nonsense...
l8er
ronny
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>>"Iain Mackenzie" <g> wrote >>It's all about strengths and weaknesses, and not over-reaction to > > weaknesses > >>which is what happens regularly on ras. > > > If you ain't happy with r.a.s. you know where to go. > > > [ ] <--- doorymenard schrieb:
Oh my god, the Chicken is back and still ruling the ng... ;)
Utter nonsense...
l8er
ronny
Ronald Stoehr wrote:
> > GP4 is one of the worst software effort, *ever*.
>
> Utter nonsense...
Agreed, GP4 is utter nonsense, that's for sure!
G
Gerry Aitken schrieb:
Sigh! How old are you?
l8er
ronny
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> Ronald Stoehr wrote: > > >>>GP4 is one of the worst software effort, *ever*. >> >>Utter nonsense... > > > Agreed, GP4 is utter nonsense, that's for sure!seriously i was hoping gp4 would be good, but christ it barely works and has
the features of a 1995 game besides the graphics
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> Gerry Aitken schrieb: > > Ronald Stoehr wrote: > > > > > >>>GP4 is one of the worst software effort, *ever*. > >> > >>Utter nonsense... > > > > > > Agreed, GP4 is utter nonsense, that's for sure! > > Sigh! How old are you? > > l8er > ronny > >Once I got my wheel setup to my liking GP4 is a lot of fun to drive, I can
catch slides, (which a lot of people say can't be done) hit my lines in a
realistic manner and have some good racing against the AI. I have never
driven an F1 car so I don't know which is closer to right as far as physics
go gp4 or f1 2002. Sure GC has made more compromise for playability's sake,
but why is the low speed grip seem so low in f1 2002? They both have areas
that should have been fixed by now. I much prefer the tracks in gp4 to f1
2002. The big difference for me was when I got the MSFF wheel working the
way I wanted it to. I had to use some unusual settings, but now I feel as
good of control as any racing game I've used.
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> You don't even have to say it 3 times - once is enough! > > Yet again it seems I have to make my position clear: > 1) F1 2002 is a better sim than GP4 IMHO. > 2) Both have their problems > 3) Both have their merits > 4) I don't care if you or anyone else thinks that GP4 or anything else is > shit. That's your opinion, and I really couldn't care, it doesn't matterQuoted text (32 lines)
> stupid logic. > > Iain > > > > "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > > > > > Completely agree with everything you say! > > > It's all about strengths and weaknesses, and not over-reaction to > weaknesses > > > which is what happens regularly on ras. > > > Iain > > > > I don't know why or how, but if I say... > > > > 'GP4 is shit' > > 'GP4 is shit' > > 'GP4 is shit' > > > > you always turn up! > > > > AMAZING!! > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----frederickson schrieb:
> seriously i was hoping gp4 would be good, but christ it barely works and has
> the features of a 1995 game besides the graphics
Seriously, GP4 works like a charm around here...
BTW, today I tried the "multiplayer" of GP4 (2 PCs on a LAN) and it
sucks hamsters through a garden hose. You can't even do a race with
practice and qualifying! WTF?
But the single player is great...
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> "Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >>Gerry Aitken schrieb: >> >>>Ronald Stoehr wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>>GP4 is one of the worst software effort, *ever*. >>>> >>>>Utter nonsense... >>> >>> >>>Agreed, GP4 is utter nonsense, that's for sure! >> >>Sigh! How old are you?"R Knapp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<i5D19.181682$[email hidden]>...
> Once I got my wheel setup to my liking GP4 is a lot of fun to drive, I can
> catch slides, (which a lot of people say can't be done) hit my lines in a
> realistic manner and have some good racing against the AI.
Get your CV in to Ferrari. I think they are looking for Schumi's
replacement.
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But it has to be someone who races for fun - not for the winning...<g>
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>"R Knapp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:<i5D19.181682$[email hidden]>... >> Once I got my wheel setup to my liking GP4 is a lot of fun to drive, I can >> catch slides, (which a lot of people say can't be done) hit my lines in a >> realistic manner and have some good racing against the AI. > >Get your CV in to Ferrari. I think they are looking for Schumi's >replacement.In article <[email hidden]>, Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]>
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>BTW, today I tried the "multiplayer" of GP4 (2 PCs on a LAN) and it
>sucks hamsters through a garden hose.
Hehe...never heard THAT before...<g>
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Hehe...never heard THAT before...<g>
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In one of my earlier posts I said I was an average driver at best. My point
hick, was that GP 4 is very driveable and fun to race when I got it setup
right.
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> "R Knapp" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<i5D19.181682$[email hidden]>...
> > Once I got my wheel setup to my liking GP4 is a lot of fun to drive, Ican
> > catch slides, (which a lot of people say can't be done) hit my lines ina
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> > realistic manner and have some good racing against the AI. > > Get your CV in to Ferrari. I think they are looking for Schumi's > replacement. > > -- > Cpl Hicks>"Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Oh my god, the Chicken is back and still ruling the ng... ;)
Okay okay I perhaps trolled a little here ;)
You see, the "other" newsgroup where all us old NROS drivers used to go is
dead. It's been almost 2 weeks and the guy hasn't put it back on yet. I
*need* my fix of it. :-||||||||
> > GP4 is one of the worst software effort, *ever*.
>
> Utter nonsense...
Ok sorry, GP4 is one of the worst software effort, *ever* by today's gaming
standards ;)
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2. It's second-rate.
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> > > > GP4 is one of the worst software effort, *ever*. > > > > Utter nonsense... > > Ok sorry, GP4 is one of the worst software effort, *ever* by today's gaming > standards ;)"R Knapp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<wEX19.186402$[email hidden]>...
> In one of my earlier posts I said I was an average driver at best. My point
> hick, was that GP 4 is very driveable and fun to race when I got it setup
> right.
I used to think like that. I liked the look of GP3 and really wanted it
to work. But endless hours of suffering canned spins, and dumb AI
backmarkers punting me off the track reduced the fun factor for me.
That's when I decided to give GPL a try. Ok it may be horrendously
difficult to master, but at least I feel I have more control over the
car.
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EldredP schrieb:
LOL, I should have added "as said by others a dozen times"...
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ronny
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> In article <[email hidden]>, Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]> > writes: > > >>BTW, today I tried the "multiplayer" of GP4 (2 PCs on a LAN) and it >>sucks hamsters through a garden hose. > > > Hehe...never heard THAT before...<g>ymenard schrieb:
>>"Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrotesnip
Okay, that's just nonsense without the "utter" , but I give in now, just
to prevent being called a GC butt kisser... ;)
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ronny
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> >>>GP4 is one of the worst software effort, *ever*. >> >>Utter nonsense... > > > Ok sorry, GP4 is one of the worst software effort, *ever* by today's gaming > standards ;)In article <[email hidden]>, Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]>
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No, I meant "sucks hamsters through a garden hose..." Never heard THAT before.
:-)
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