F1 2002: Automatic Upshifting

I am going to start using auto upshift in f1 2002, I have always used fully automatic gears in all sims but I have decided to give this a go, anyone got any tips (other than practicing 100's of laps which I do anyway) that will help me. Also will using this give me quicker laptimes than with fully auto, as I felt that it was holding me back quite a bit. TIA Trev

Not sure about that the only thing I know is that i was able to get better laptimes with manua tranny, which leads me to think, that you should be able to get better laptimes with just autoupshifts than full auto, nope nothing will help better than practice, practice and consistency is key in most anything you do!!! "Trev" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KTG09.434$[email hidden]... > I am going to start using auto upshift in f1 2002, I have always usedfully > automatic gears in all sims but I have decided to give this a go, anyonegot

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> any tips (other than practicing 100's of laps which I do anyway) that will > help me. > > Also will using this give me quicker laptimes than with fully auto, as I > felt that it was holding me back quite a bit. > > TIA > > Trev > >

You can almost certainly get better laptimes with full manual, for the simple reason that most auto shifting algorithms don't seem to understand that there are times when you need to keep the revs low in order to get traction. Also F1 2002's auto-upshift algorithm is not overrideable, so if you make a mistake and go down one gear too low, you are stuck until the algorithm thinks it is time to shift up again. Nothing is better than full manual control. "Trev" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KTG09.434$[email hidden]... > I am going to start using auto upshift in f1 2002, I have always usedfully > automatic gears in all sims but I have decided to give this a go,anyone got > any tips (other than practicing 100's of laps which I do anyway) thatwill > help me. > > Also will using this give me quicker laptimes than with fully auto, asI

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> felt that it was holding me back quite a bit. > > TIA > > Trev > >

On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:03:30 -0400, "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>You can almost certainly get better laptimes with full manual, for the >simple reason that most auto shifting algorithms don't seem to >understand that there are times when you need to keep the revs low in >order to get traction. Also F1 2002's auto-upshift algorithm is not >overrideable, so if you make a mistake and go down one gear too low, you >are stuck until the algorithm thinks it is time to shift up again. >Nothing is better than full manual control.

F1 drivers use auto right? I don't seem to see them shifting with the in-car shots. I like auto-upshifts myself and found it did help with lap times. I tried auto but when ever I try to take a corner it would drop down to 1st gear on turns that don't need to go that low. -- karkrazy AT softhome DOT net

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> On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:03:30 -0400, "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >You can almost certainly get better laptimes with full manual, for the > >simple reason that most auto shifting algorithms don't seem to > >understand that there are times when you need to keep the revs low in > >order to get traction. Also F1 2002's auto-upshift algorithm is not > >overrideable, so if you make a mistake and go down one gear too low, you > >are stuck until the algorithm thinks it is time to shift up again. > >Nothing is better than full manual control. > > F1 drivers use auto right? I don't seem to see them shifting with the > in-car shots. I like auto-upshifts myself and found it did help with > lap times.

Yes, I think most drivers use auto upshift, but control the downshifts manually, to prevent things like changing down a gear in the middle of a bend etc. > I tried auto but when ever I try to take a corner it would drop down > to 1st gear on turns that don't need to go that low. Try auto upshift only, its much better, but still, its not as good as manual. Since switching from manual to auto up, my lap times have plumetted!

are there any ground rules for changing down, should i change down completely before the turn, how quickly should i for example go from 6th to 2nd etc. I am totally new to changing gears myself so I am enjoying this thread a lot. > Try auto upshift only, its much better, but still, its not as good as > manual. Since switching from manual to auto up, my lap times have > plumetted!

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> > Try auto upshift only, its much better, but still, its not as good as > > manual. Since switching from manual to auto up, my lap times have > > plumetted! > are there any ground rules for changing down, should i change down > completely before the turn, how quickly should i for example go from 6th to > 2nd etc. I am totally new to changing gears myself so I am enjoying this > thread a lot.

err... well, just see how you go. Personally, I start changing down just after I start braking, say from 7th gear down to 2nd, I tap the paddle 5 times repeatedly, so the revs stay in the power band for accelerating out of the bend. Watch a couple of in car laps from a formula 1 race, and listen to how they downshift. They dont hang about :)

I hate to admit it but I shift totally by ear. Once I have driven a car a lap or two, watching the tach or the idiot lights, I know what pitch represents redline and what pitch represents the bottom of the power band. So I do both upshifting and downshifting by ear. Generally you want to stay in the power band (keep the lights lit up in modern F1 cars). The exception is in turns, where in slow and medium speed turns you don't want to be in the power band until you are in a position where you can begin straightening the wheel. So for those types of turns skip the last downshift and let the engine drop below the powerband in midturn. If you have your gears adjusted correctly you should be just coming back into the power band somewhere near the apex. "Syd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > err... well, just see how you go. > Personally, I start changing down just after I start braking, > say from 7th gear down to 2nd, I tap the paddle 5 times repeatedly, > so the revs stay in the power band for accelerating out of the bend. > > Watch a couple of in car laps from a formula 1 race, and listen to > how they downshift. They dont hang about :)