GPL - Problem with Lock-up in Menu Screen After Laps Run

I'm having a very frustrating intermittant (but frequent) problem with GPL. When I finish a few laps of offline testing OR online qualifying and I go back to the menu screen to check my times and tire temps, GPL will lock up (i.e. the mouse and keyboard freezes). I need to press shift-alt-delete to shut down GPL and return to Windows - which operates normally. The next time I do laps the problem may or may not happen. I'm stumped. Can anyone please suggest something to try. Thanks in advance. PII 400MHz, 512M RAM, ATI Expert @ Play 2D video, Canopus Voodoo 2 3D video, MSFF Port Wheel, Windows 95 (v4.00.950a), Windows virtual memory set to manual, 50M min, 150M max. All GPL patches up-to-date.

In article <kon19.29$[email hidden]>, "Jim Allison" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>I'm having a very frustrating intermittant (but frequent) problem with GPL. >When I finish a few laps of offline testing OR online qualifying and I go >back to the menu screen to check my times and tire temps, GPL will lock up >(i.e. the mouse and keyboard freezes). I need to press shift-alt-delete to >shut down GPL and return to Windows - which operates normally. The next time >I do laps the problem may or may not happen. I'm stumped. Can anyone please >suggest something to try. Thanks in advance.

Are you running Zone Alarm? ZA and GPL don't play well together... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett My .sig file is in the shop for repairs... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Thanks very much for the reply Eldred (not to mention all the other support you give to the virtual racing community). No, I'm not running Zone Alarm - or any other such program (e.g. virus alerts, etc.). Of course I run WinVROC when online but problem occurs online OR offline. I tried reinstalling GPL and applying the patches (v1.2, discofix). I rebooted before trying GPL again - it locked up after the third cycle of lapping and checking times/temps at Monza. It's starting to lock up more often now, usually after the third cycle of lapping and checking times/temps. All other Windows programs (including WinVROC) are operating fine. Here are some of the add-on I have: - 9 Add-on tracks - lock-up occurs on any track, Papy or add-on - Carsound patch - Teamfix patch (Honda, Cooper) - Car dash overrides to Eagle and Lotus - no problems for long period before lockups started Basically GPL is useless to me at the moment. Arrrggghhhh! <Jim suffers GPL withdrawl symptoms> Thanks for help! EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <kon19.29$[email hidden]>, "Jim Allison"<[email hidden]> > writes: > > >I'm having a very frustrating intermittant (but frequent) problem withGPL. > >When I finish a few laps of offline testing OR online qualifying and I go > >back to the menu screen to check my times and tire temps, GPL will lockup > >(i.e. the mouse and keyboard freezes). I need to press shift-alt-deleteto > >shut down GPL and return to Windows - which operates normally. The nexttime > >I do laps the problem may or may not happen. I'm stumped. Can anyoneplease

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> >suggest something to try. Thanks in advance. > > Are you running Zone Alarm? ZA and GPL don't play well together... > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > My .sig file is in the shop for repairs... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

After you did reinstall but before addons tracks and such did you try running starting with a clean gpl? If it runs clean then start adding in patches, then addon's and test between each new item. Might be worth try, I had problem once with a track and had to start total clean, then built back up extras, runs like a champ now. Good luck Steve Moore "Jim Allison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GeE19.53$[email hidden]... > Thanks very much for the reply Eldred (not to mention all the othersupport > you give to the virtual racing community). No, I'm not running ZoneAlarm - > or any other such program (e.g. virus alerts, etc.). Of course I runWinVROC

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> when online but problem occurs online OR offline. > > I tried reinstalling GPL and applying the patches (v1.2, discofix). I > rebooted before trying GPL again - it locked up after the third cycle of > lapping and checking times/temps at Monza. It's starting to lock up more > often now, usually after the third cycle of lapping and checking > times/temps. All other Windows programs (including WinVROC) are operating > fine. > > Here are some of the add-on I have: > > - 9 Add-on tracks - lock-up occurs on any track, Papy or add-on > - Carsound patch > - Teamfix patch (Honda, Cooper) > - Car dash overrides to Eagle and Lotus - no problems for long period

before > lockups started > > Basically GPL is useless to me at the moment. Arrrggghhhh! <Jim suffersGPL

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> withdrawl symptoms> > > Thanks for help! > > EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <kon19.29$[email hidden]>, "Jim Allison" > <[email hidden]> > > writes: > > > > >I'm having a very frustrating intermittant (but frequent) problem with > GPL. > > >When I finish a few laps of offline testing OR online qualifying and I

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> > >back to the menu screen to check my times and tire temps, GPL will lock > up > > >(i.e. the mouse and keyboard freezes). I need to press shift-alt-delete > to > > >shut down GPL and return to Windows - which operates normally. The next > time > > >I do laps the problem may or may not happen. I'm stumped. Can anyone > please > > >suggest something to try. Thanks in advance. > > > > Are you running Zone Alarm? ZA and GPL don't play well together... > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > My .sig file is in the shop for repairs... > > > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > >

Thanks Steve, I'll give that a try and report back. Steve Moore <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gjG19.1477$[email hidden]... > After you did reinstall but before addons tracks and such did you try > running starting with a clean gpl? If it runs clean then start adding in > patches, then addon's and test between each new item. Might be worth try,I > had problem once with a track and had to start total clean, then builtback

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> up extras, runs like a champ now. Good luck > > Steve Moore > "Jim Allison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:GeE19.53$[email hidden]... > > Thanks very much for the reply Eldred (not to mention all the other > support > > you give to the virtual racing community). No, I'm not running Zone > Alarm - > > or any other such program (e.g. virus alerts, etc.). Of course I run > WinVROC > > when online but problem occurs online OR offline. > > > > I tried reinstalling GPL and applying the patches (v1.2, discofix). I > > rebooted before trying GPL again - it locked up after the third cycle of > > lapping and checking times/temps at Monza. It's starting to lock up more > > often now, usually after the third cycle of lapping and checking > > times/temps. All other Windows programs (including WinVROC) are

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> > fine. > > > > Here are some of the add-on I have: > > > > - 9 Add-on tracks - lock-up occurs on any track, Papy or add-on > > - Carsound patch > > - Teamfix patch (Honda, Cooper) > > - Car dash overrides to Eagle and Lotus - no problems for long period > before > > lockups started > > > > Basically GPL is useless to me at the moment. Arrrggghhhh! <Jim suffers > GPL > > withdrawl symptoms> > > > > Thanks for help! > > > > EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > In article <kon19.29$[email hidden]>, "Jim Allison" > > <[email hidden]> > > > writes: > > > > > > >I'm having a very frustrating intermittant (but frequent) problem

with > > GPL. > > > >When I finish a few laps of offline testing OR online qualifying andI > go > > > >back to the menu screen to check my times and tire temps, GPL willlock > > up > > > >(i.e. the mouse and keyboard freezes). I need to pressshift-alt-delete > > to > > > >shut down GPL and return to Windows - which operates normally. Thenext

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> > time > > > >I do laps the problem may or may not happen. I'm stumped. Can anyone > > please > > > >suggest something to try. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Are you running Zone Alarm? ZA and GPL don't play well together... > > > > > > Eldred > > > -- > > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > > My .sig file is in the shop for repairs... > > > > > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > > > > > >

In article <GeE19.53$[email hidden]>, "Jim Allison" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Thanks very much for the reply Eldred (not to mention all the other support >you give to the virtual racing community). No, I'm not running Zone Alarm - >or any other such program (e.g. virus alerts, etc.). Of course I run WinVROC >when online but problem occurs online OR offline. > >I tried reinstalling GPL and applying the patches (v1.2, discofix). I >rebooted before trying GPL again - it locked up after the third cycle of >lapping and checking times/temps at Monza. It's starting to lock up more >often now, usually after the third cycle of lapping and checking >times/temps. All other Windows programs (including WinVROC) are operating >fine. > >Here are some of the add-on I have: > >- 9 Add-on tracks - lock-up occurs on any track, Papy or add-on >- Carsound patch >- Teamfix patch (Honda, Cooper) >- Car dash overrides to Eagle and Lotus - no problems for long period before >lockups started > >Basically GPL is useless to me at the moment. Arrrggghhhh! <Jim suffers GPL >withdrawl symptoms>

Have you tried running it stock, without the teamfix and car dash updates? Usually you want to test the program in its original state. Also, check for an IRQ conflict between your video and sound card. Those can cause problems too. Failing that, I'm out of ideas... :-( Eldred p.s. wait - possible overheating? When your system locks up and you reboot, check your CPU temps in the SETUP screen... -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett My .sig file is in the shop for repairs... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

EldredP wrote: > p.s. wait - possible overheating? When your system locks up and you reboot, > check your CPU temps in the SETUP screen... Not to mention the temp of your video card. GPL was locking up on me (during races, mind) and after some puzzling it became clear that my Voodoo2 card was getting too hot, even while I hadn't overclocked it. I had to underclock it right to 90 from 95 or so to get rid of the crashes. I still get lockups when selecting some menu items though, so it seems like there's a weak point somewhere in the GPL code. Regards, Rudy

Eureka! When I re-installed GPL many months back, I neglected to handle the bad glide v2.54 driver issue - this version doesn't work with GPL. I needed to copy glide v2.53 and two other files (i.e., glide2x.dll, glide3x.dll, and glide2x.ovl) to the GPL directory to override the problem files. I did this and it appears that the lock-ups are gone <knock knock knock knock knock knock>. Thanks for the suggestions from all the kind souls who responded. I had a gut feeling that it was a driver issue so I dug into my old saved newsgroup messages. I learned a valuable lesson - document everything in a "re-install checklist". Love GPL drivers, hate computer drivers!! (but wait, GPL drivers are computer drivers - oh never mind). See you on the track! Jim Allison <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kon19.29$[email hidden]... > I'm having a very frustrating intermittant (but frequent) problem withGPL. > When I finish a few laps of offline testing OR online qualifying and I go > back to the menu screen to check my times and tire temps, GPL will lock up > (i.e. the mouse and keyboard freezes). I need to press shift-alt-delete to > shut down GPL and return to Windows - which operates normally. The nexttime > I do laps the problem may or may not happen. I'm stumped. Can anyoneplease > suggest something to try. Thanks in advance. > > PII 400MHz, 512M RAM, ATI Expert @ Play 2D video, Canopus Voodoo 2 3Dvideo, > MSFF Port Wheel, Windows 95 (v4.00.950a), Windows virtual memory set to > manual, 50M min, 150M max. All GPL patches up-to-date. > > >

> glide v2.54 driver issue - this version doesn't work with GPL. I needed to There are newer glides than this. My glide2x.dll is 2.61 rms [email hidden]

Thanks Roger, I sent you a note requesting the driver. Maybe it will improve my times. Roger Squires <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Tbf29.597$[email hidden]... > > glide v2.54 driver issue - this version doesn't work with GPL. I neededto

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> > There are newer glides than this. My glide2x.dll is 2.61 > > rms > [email hidden] > > >