N2002 Boot Problem

I have been running N2002, and I keep getting booted back to the desktop during races. It has happened both online and offline usually in the later stages of a race (i.e. just now online lap 19 of 24 at Indy) I had been using an Voodoo 5 5500 video card, which gave me colour problems, but I have recently upgraded to an Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti 4400. I have had the problem both with and without "End-It-All" running. I have a AMD Athalon 800, with 128 Ram, running Win 98. Any suggestions? -- Bobby Upward "Fat, Drunk, and Stupid, is no way to go through life, son"

Robert, Sounds like a cooling problem to me, To verify it run a nice long race with the systems cover removed and a fan blowing right onto the motherboard. If this works ok then you know you need better ventilation through you're case or maybe a better CPU heatsink/fan cooler solution. Also intermittent RAM could cause a problem like this, turn off fast startup in you're bios to let the motherboard do a thorough test on startup. Maybe find some memory test software on the web. PS: Blow all the dust bunnies out of you're system while you're at it :) Good luck to ya ... "Robert Upward" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7Ko29.3928$[email hidden]... > I have been running N2002, and I keep getting booted back to thedesktop > during races. It has happened both online and offline usually in thelater > stages of a race (i.e. just now online lap 19 of 24 at Indy) I had been > using an Voodoo 5 5500 video card, which gave me colour problems, but Ihave > recently upgraded to an Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti 4400. I have had the problem > both with and without "End-It-All" running. I have a AMD Athalon 800,with

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> 128 Ram, running Win 98. Any suggestions? > > -- > Bobby Upward > > "Fat, Drunk, and Stupid, is no way to go through life, son" > >

I hate this kind of shit... strange that I decided to make a career out of working with computers. Well, PCs anyway. DB has some good hunches. Some other things to ask: any other new hardware? Are *all* your drivers "up to date". nVidias stuff lately has been giving me the idea it doesn't play so nicely with others. You might try various driver versions if the heat hunch doesn't pan out. DirectX 8.1 diagnostic tell you anything? Do you have problems with other games? It could really be almost anything. The Team Lightspeed site has a forum on troubleshooting, be sure to ask there, too. http://www.sportplanet.com/team-lightspeed/board/ Good luck, Gerald "DB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Robert, > > Sounds like a cooling problem to me, To verify it run a nice long > race with the systems cover removed and a fan blowing right onto > the motherboard. If this works ok then you know you need better > ventilation through you're case or maybe a better CPU heatsink/fan > cooler solution. > Also intermittent RAM could cause a problem like this, turn off > fast startup in you're bios to let the motherboard do a thorough > test on startup. Maybe find some memory test software on the > web. > > PS: Blow all the dust bunnies out of you're system while you're at it :) > > Good luck to ya ... > > "Robert Upward" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:7Ko29.3928$[email hidden]... > > I have been running N2002, and I keep getting booted back to the > desktop > > during races. It has happened both online and offline usually in the > later > > stages of a race (i.e. just now online lap 19 of 24 at Indy) I had been > > using an Voodoo 5 5500 video card, which gave me colour problems, but I > have > > recently upgraded to an Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti 4400. I have had the problem > > both with and without "End-It-All" running. I have a AMD Athalon 800, > with > > 128 Ram, running Win 98. Any suggestions? > > > > -- > > Bobby Upward > > > > "Fat, Drunk, and Stupid, is no way to go through life, son" > > > > > >

Robert.... We really need more information, as in: 1. Win98? or Win98SE? (How fresh is this install?) 2. What driver version for the vid card (is the vid card AGP or PCI)? 3. What sound card (and driver version)? 4. What N2K2 res and settings? 5. Have you made all the recommended .ini file settings? 6. How much video replay ram have you allocated? 7. Is your swap file defragmented? 8. Have you taken control of "Virtual Memory" back from Windows? 9. What mobo BIOS settings are you using (recommended set for Nv cards or not)? 10. What are your N2K2 "Options Screen" settings for sound, graphics? 11. What controller are you using? 12. Have you installed DX8.1 or tried reinstalling it? Robert, provide the answers to these questions and I'm sure, collectively someone will come up with the right answer for you. I bet the "problem" lies somewhere in these 12 areas. Also, 128mb of ram is not nearly enough ram for even normal ops of Win98(SE). 256 is a minimum, 512 is much better. Your system may simply be choking on too little ram. Do you manage your ram allocation with a program like MemTurbo? If not, go get it. Regards, Tom "Robert Upward" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7Ko29.3928$[email hidden]... > I have been running N2002, and I keep getting booted back to thedesktop > during races. It has happened both online and offline usually in thelater > stages of a race (i.e. just now online lap 19 of 24 at Indy) I had been > using an Voodoo 5 5500 video card, which gave me colour problems, but Ihave > recently upgraded to an Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti 4400. I have had the problem > both with and without "End-It-All" running. I have a AMD Athalon 800,with

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> 128 Ram, running Win 98. Any suggestions? > > -- > Bobby Upward > > "Fat, Drunk, and Stupid, is no way to go through life, son" > >

Wow! Thanks DB, Gerald, and Tom for your help. I already checked the memory and it's ok, plus I opened the tower and used a fan, but I still got the same prob. I'll get my buddy, the self described "computer geek" to try this stuff and tell you what happens. Rob "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%hx29.759777$cQ3.116881@sccrnsc01...

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> Robert.... > > We really need more information, as in: > > 1. Win98? or Win98SE? (How fresh is this install?) > 2. What driver version for the vid card (is the vid card AGP or PCI)? > 3. What sound card (and driver version)? > 4. What N2K2 res and settings? > 5. Have you made all the recommended .ini file settings? > 6. How much video replay ram have you allocated? > 7. Is your swap file defragmented? > 8. Have you taken control of "Virtual Memory" back from Windows? > 9. What mobo BIOS settings are you using (recommended set for Nv cards or > not)? > 10. What are your N2K2 "Options Screen" settings for sound, graphics? > 11. What controller are you using? > 12. Have you installed DX8.1 or tried reinstalling it? > > Robert, provide the answers to these questions and I'm sure, collectively > someone will come up with the right answer for you. I bet the "problem" > lies somewhere in these 12 areas. Also, 128mb of ram is not nearly enough > ram for even normal ops of Win98(SE). 256 is a minimum, 512 is much

better. > Your system may simply be choking on too little ram. Do you manage yourram

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> allocation with a program like MemTurbo? If not, go get it. > > Regards, > > Tom > > > > "Robert Upward" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:7Ko29.3928$[email hidden]... > > I have been running N2002, and I keep getting booted back to the > desktop > > during races. It has happened both online and offline usually in the > later > > stages of a race (i.e. just now online lap 19 of 24 at Indy) I had been > > using an Voodoo 5 5500 video card, which gave me colour problems, but I > have > > recently upgraded to an Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti 4400. I have had the problem > > both with and without "End-It-All" running. I have a AMD Athalon 800, > with > > 128 Ram, running Win 98. Any suggestions? > > > > -- > > Bobby Upward > > > > "Fat, Drunk, and Stupid, is no way to go through life, son" > > > > > >

Robert Upward wrote: > > Wow! Thanks DB, Gerald, and Tom for your help. I already checked the > memory and it's ok, plus I opened the tower and used a fan, but I still got > the same prob. I'll get my buddy, the self described "computer geek" to try > this stuff and tell you what happens. "Upgrading" from a V5 to an nVidia based card is not always the smoothest of rides, just ask Dave Henrie, I myself had a momentary brain fade a little while ago and popped in a GF4MX card to hold me over until my R8500 card arrived as I thought the V5 really wasn't up to the task of NR2002 and had nothing but lockups and such There was nothing wrong with the card as I sold to someone else who is quite happy with it, and it was basically nothing wrong with my computer as my R8500 works flawlessly, and others have reported similar findings, I can only assume there's some stuff from V5 drivers that gets left behind and won't work properly when you pop in an nVidia based card I did the full uninstall and regedit thing, still locked up on me, popped the V5 back in and no worries, same with the R8500, so if you have a spare disk lying around that you could do a test install of a clean W98 and see if the same thing happens there Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

> Wow! Thanks DB, Gerald, and Tom for your help. I already checked the > memory and it's ok, plus I opened the tower and used a fan, but I still got > the same prob. I'll get my buddy, the self described "computer geek" to try > this stuff and tell you what happens. "Upgrading" from a V5 to an nVidia based card is not always the smoothest of rides, just ask Dave Henrie, I myself had a momentary brain fade a little while ago and popped in a GF4MX card to hold me over until my R8500 card arrived as I thought the V5 really wasn't up to the task of NR2002 and had nothing but lockups and such There was nothing wrong with the card as I sold to someone else who is quite happy with it, and it was basically nothing wrong with my computer as my R8500 works flawlessly, and others have reported similar findings, I can only assume there's some stuff from V5 drivers that gets left behind and won't work properly when you pop in an nVidia based card I did the full uninstall and regedit thing, still locked up on me, popped the V5 back in and no worries, same with the R8500, so if you have a spare disk lying around that you could do a test install of a clean W98 and see if the same thing happens there Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--