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Re: RASCAR Results

22 posts by 10 people · 10 Aug 2002 22:03 UTC - 14 Aug 2002 05:16 UTC

RASCAR Watkins Glen race results

RASCAR drivers discussed a Watkins Glen race hosted by Tim, won again by Ginger. Eldred ran out of fuel on the last lap trying to skip a stop, and others reported gearbox failures and hosting issues with PCAnywhere.

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Tim 10 Aug 2002 22:03 UTC#104156
(with)out booting host lol -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:V3g59.3161$[email hidden]... > Thank you guys for the patience. > > If anyone knows how to check clt+alt+del from PcAnywhere remote with booting > the Host please tell me. The reason for todays boots were things running in > memory that I couldn't close from Remote. If David Krol (who owns the T1 > hadn't been there we'd been screwed. > > Attached are the standings and I have the replay if I need to send it to > someone? > > Thx > > -- > Tim White > www.intracmotorsports.com > > > > >
I lost 2nd gear for no reason on the pace lap, wasnt even pressing on the gas. I couldnt take it so i quit, and then my hard drive quit working on me, i had to repair clusters and virrusscan, and scandisk decided to erase outlook express.... ARGH, Im havin a bad day
Paul E 11 Aug 2002 00:13 UTC↳ reply to Tim#104168
What version of PCA are you using? I use 10.5, and there is a "send clt+alt+del to host" button on the top of the window, just to the left of "restart host". -Paul Eigsti -League & Server admin Western States Racing League www.wsrlracing.com My e-mail address is false. Please reply to this news group.
Quoted text (8 lines)> > "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:V3g59.3161$[email hidden]... > > Thank you guys for the patience. > > > > If anyone knows how to check clt+alt+del from PcAnywhere remote with > booting > > the Host please tell me. The reason for todays boots were things
running > in > > memory that I couldn't close from Remote. If David Krol (who owns theT1
Quoted text (10 lines)> > hadn't been there we'd been screwed. > > > > Attached are the standings and I have the replay if I need to send it to > > someone? > > > > Thx > > > > -- > > Tim White > > www.intracmotorsports.com
David G Fisher 11 Aug 2002 00:33 UTC#104170
Well Ginger won another one. :-) Big surprise. Thanks Tim for hosting again. It seemed like a really good race. I don't like NASCAR cars on RC's, but I had a pretty good time I guess. There was a one guy after the race in the lobby who was ripping me while getting drunk :-) . He said I couldn't handle the cars on any tracks other than Texas, among other things. When I looked over the replay though I noticed that while I started 12th and he started 6th, I reeled him in by lap 7. I blew by him and took over 6th but then I got hit with a crap BF penalty on lap 9 at the inner loop even though I stayed to the right of the cones and immediately got back onto the track. That put me back at 15th or 16th, but I moved back up and finished 6th. I'm sure I would of dispatched him easily without the BF, and I didn't even care about this race. Next time he will be taught a hard, painful lesson. :-o David G Fisher "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:V3g59.3161$[email hidden]... Thank you guys for the patience. If anyone knows how to check clt+alt+del from PcAnywhere remote with booting the Host please tell me. The reason for todays boots were things running in memory that I couldn't close from Remote. If David Krol (who owns the T1 hadn't been there we'd been screwed. Attached are the standings and I have the replay if I need to send it to someone? Thx -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com
Larry 11 Aug 2002 01:27 UTC↳ reply to Tim#104176
I _believe_ it is a menu command. It's been a while since I've used PCAnywhere. Terminal Server is SO much faster, and with Microsoft releasing an outstanding Mac client (yeah, floored me too :)), it's a superb setup. -Larry "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Y4g59.3167$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> (with)out booting host lol > > -- > Tim White > www.intracmotorsports.com > > > "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:V3g59.3161$[email hidden]... > > Thank you guys for the patience. > > > > If anyone knows how to check clt+alt+del from PcAnywhere remote with > booting > > the Host please tell me. The reason for todays boots were things
running > in > > memory that I couldn't close from Remote. If David Krol (who owns theT1
Quoted text (17 lines)> > hadn't been there we'd been screwed. > > > > Attached are the standings and I have the replay if I need to send it to > > someone? > > > > Thx > > > > -- > > Tim White > > www.intracmotorsports.com > > > > > > > > > > > >
I lost 2nd at Sears, but made it through this one today. I think it's because I changed my shifting habit a bit. It cost me some time, but I now blip the throttle when shifting up. I guess it takes some stress off of the gearbox. I had a decent day. Came out 10th, which is a party-time finish for me at a road course :) As usual, I made it all the way to about 5 laps to go without so much as touching a fender, and then everything went to shit. I think I hit the rails twice in the last 5 laps. My back gets to hurting so bad that I start fidgeting around in the chair, and I invariably end up screwing up somewhere. No one hit me in the rear end. Thanks! Well, there was one minor bump but it was no biggie. I'd like to think it's because the RASCALS know me by now, and know that if someone is behind me and they are faster, I don't block or hold them up. I just hold a line and let them go around uncontested. I don't make them fight for it and they are more patient and careful. Unless it's the last lap :) Thanks for hosting Tim! -Larry "frederickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uOh59.32279$[email hidden]... > I lost 2nd gear for no reason on the pace lap, wasnt even pressing on the > gas. I couldnt take it so i quit, and then my hard drive quit working onme, > i had to repair clusters and virrusscan, and scandisk decided to erase > outlook express.... ARGH, Im havin a bad day > > >
Tim 11 Aug 2002 04:03 UTC↳ reply to Paul E#104185
I have 10.0.1 but I'll look for that. Thank You -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com "Paul E" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What version of PCA are you using? I use 10.5, and there is a "send > clt+alt+del to host" button on the top of the window, just to the left of > "restart host". > > -Paul Eigsti > -League & Server admin > Western States Racing League > www.wsrlracing.com > My e-mail address is false. > Please reply to this news group. > > > > > > "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:V3g59.3161$[email hidden]... > > > Thank you guys for the patience. > > > > > > If anyone knows how to check clt+alt+del from PcAnywhere remote with > > booting > > > the Host please tell me. The reason for todays boots were things > running > > in > > > memory that I couldn't close from Remote. If David Krol (who owns the > T1 > > > hadn't been there we'd been screwed. > > > > > > Attached are the standings and I have the replay if I need to send it to > > > someone? > > > > > > Thx > > > > > > -- > > > Tim White > > > www.intracmotorsports.com > > > > >
Tim 11 Aug 2002 04:10 UTC↳ reply to Tim#104186
Found it but it is disabled on the host. -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_ll59.4954$[email hidden]... > I have 10.0.1 but I'll look for that. > Thank You > > -- > Tim White > www.intracmotorsports.com > > > "Paul E" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > What version of PCA are you using? I use 10.5, and there is a "send > > clt+alt+del to host" button on the top of the window, just to the left of > > "restart host". > > > > -Paul Eigsti > > -League & Server admin > > Western States Racing League > > www.wsrlracing.com > > My e-mail address is false. > > Please reply to this news group. > > > > > > > > > > "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:V3g59.3161$[email hidden]... > > > > Thank you guys for the patience. > > > > > > > > If anyone knows how to check clt+alt+del from PcAnywhere remote with > > > booting > > > > the Host please tell me. The reason for todays boots were things > > running > > > in > > > > memory that I couldn't close from Remote. If David Krol (who owns the > > T1 > > > > hadn't been there we'd been screwed. > > > > > > > > Attached are the standings and I have the replay if I need to send it > to > > > > someone? > > > > > > > > Thx > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Tim White > > > > www.intracmotorsports.com > > > > > > > > > > > >
"David G Fisher" wrote... > > Well Ginger won another one. :-) Big surprise. Not really... Ginger was "on the money" and drove a very good race. He fully deserved this result. > Thanks Tim for hosting again. It seemed like a really good race. It was, I've watched the replay and there was some good clean racing going on all the way down the field. Some incidents obviously, but no more than was par for the course, I think. > I don't like NASCAR cars on RC's, but I had a pretty good time I guess. > There was a one > guy after the race in the lobby who was ripping me > while getting drunk :-). Sure, I got really whacked on those two bottles of beer. lol ;-) Besides, some good natured ribbing never hurt anyone and you've just set yourself up for some more.
Quoted text (7 lines)> He said I couldn't handle the cars on any tracks other than Texas, > among other things. When I looked over the replay though I noticed > that while I started 12th and he started 6th, I reeled him in by > lap 7. I blew by him and took over 6th but then I got hit with a crap > BF penalty on lap 9 at the inner loop even though I stayed to the right > of the cones and immediately got back onto the track. That put me back > at 15th or 16th, but I moved back up and finished 6th.
<plants tongue firmly in cheek> David, you're no longer playing in the hotlapper kiddiepool. You're racing with the big boys now. That means you have to take care of all aspects of racing, which implies knowing the rules. To begin with, there's no excuse for losing the car on your own in a 36 lap sprint race. None whatsoever. If you don't have the stamina and concentration to keep it on the island for a mere 36 laps you have no business racing for a top 5 finish. Then, if you do lose it, you have to take your medicine, go up the escape road and obey the rules of the sport. None of this trying to recover and get back on the track asap endangering your fellow competitors thing. My plan, before you conveniently took yourself out of the equation, was to keep up as closely as possible without hurting my tyres for another 8 to 10 laps and then start putting pressure on you as you struggled to navigate around the track on completely shot tyres. Even if you'd pitted early, I'd still would have had a shout as, with a lighter car and less laps to complete on the new tyres I could have gone at least a sec a lap faster than you in the closing stages. > I'm sure I would of dispatched him easily without the BF, and I didn't > even care about this race. Next time he will be taught a hard, painful > lesson. :-o Seriously, unless you learn to work with the car to acchieve speed, rather than impose your F1 influenced will on it, you will never consistently beat me, let alone have a sliver of hope to beat people like Ginger, Ian, John, Brian, Mike, etc... the tyres will bite you every time (cfr. Kansas). This is the thinking man's autosport David. Think about that. <g> Jan. =---
EldredP 11 Aug 2002 11:58 UTC↳ reply to Larry#104107
In article <C8j59.35498$[email hidden]>, "Larry" <[email hidden]> writes: >I had a decent day. Came out 10th, which is a party-time finish for me at a >road course :) Merry <expletive> christmas. I ran out of gas on the last lap... You're welcome.<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+8.09 N2002 Rank:+22.329 Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Where can I download the replay yesterdays Glen from, please Lee "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <C8j59.35498$[email hidden]>, "Larry"<[email hidden]> > writes: > > >I had a decent day. Came out 10th, which is a party-time finish for meat a
Quoted text (12 lines)> >road course :) > > Merry <expletive> christmas. I ran out of gas on the last lap... > You're welcome.<g> > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+8.09 > N2002 Rank:+22.329 > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <C8j59.35498$[email hidden]>, "Larry"<[email hidden]> > writes: > > >I had a decent day. Came out 10th, which is a party-time finish for meat a
Quoted text (12 lines)> >road course :) > > Merry <expletive> christmas. I ran out of gas on the last lap... > You're welcome.<g> > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+8.09 > N2002 Rank:+22.329 > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
I have done that at the Glen, with a 6 second lead on second and in the innerloop on the last lap no less. It can be quite frustrating indeed, ended up scored a lap down after almost seeing the finish line with such a lead, arghhh! ;-)
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:G8s59.59265$[email hidden]... > "David G Fisher" wrote... > > > > Well Ginger won another one. :-) Big surprise. > > Not really... Ginger was "on the money" and drove a very good race. Hefully > deserved this result. I was being sarcastic. It never surprises me at all when Ginger wins.
Quoted text (11 lines)> > Thanks Tim for hosting again. It seemed like a really good race. > > It was, I've watched the replay and there was some good clean racing going > on all the way down the field. Some incidents obviously, but no more than > was par for the course, I think. > > > I don't like NASCAR cars on RC's, but I had a pretty good time I guess. > > There was a one > guy after the race in the lobby who was ripping me > > while getting drunk :-). > > Sure, I got really whacked on those two bottles of beer. lol ;-)
Well women usually don't need too much alcohol to get drunk. :-o
Quoted text (14 lines)> Besides, some good natured ribbing never hurt anyone and you've just set > yourself up for some more. > > > He said I couldn't handle the cars on any tracks other than Texas, > > among other things. When I looked over the replay though I noticed > > that while I started 12th and he started 6th, I reeled him in by > > lap 7. I blew by him and took over 6th but then I got hit with a crap > > BF penalty on lap 9 at the inner loop even though I stayed to the right > > of the cones and immediately got back onto the track. That put me back > > at 15th or 16th, but I moved back up and finished 6th. > > <plants tongue firmly in cheek> > > David, you're no longer playing in the hotlapper kiddiepool.
Hotlapper old farts pool? >You're racing > with the big boys now. That means you have to take care of all aspects of > racing, which implies knowing the rules. I'd have to watch NASCAR to learn these dumb rules they have (like while on the track during a green flag restart, being forced to stay behind a car which is slowly entering the pits and watching the field disappear off into the distance) which would be too painful. >To begin with, there's no excuse > for losing the car on your own in a 36 lap sprint race. None whatsoever.If > you don't have the stamina and concentration to keep it on the island fora > mere 36 laps you have no business racing for a top 5 finish. Well I didn't actually do that. You wouldn't know because you were so far behind after I passed you that you couldn't see, but I was trying to find a way around Brian. One reason you were so far behind (other than my blinding speed) was that you lost your car at T1 and went off course for a bit. So as you said, "there's no excuse for losing the car on your own in a 36 lap sprint race. None whatsoever. If you don't have the stamina and concentration to keep it on the island for a mere 36 laps you have no business racing for a top 5 finish." :-p >Then, if you do > lose it, you have to take your medicine, go up the escape road and obeythe > rules of the sport. None of this trying to recover and get back on thetrack > asap endangering your fellow competitors thing. I didn't think I'd get a black flag for that and since you were so far back, no one was in danger when I got back on track. Even JS who has a ton of experience with NASCAR sims misjudged the game's choice of when it would give a black flag. > My plan, before you conveniently took yourself out of the equation, was to > keep up as closely as possible without hurting my tyres for another 8 to10 > laps and then start putting pressure on you as you struggled to navigate > around the track on completely shot tyres. Your plan <cough> would of failed because my tires were in excellent shape even after moving up from 13th (not 12th as I stated earlier) to 6th and tire wear was never really an issue for me in the race. As long as you never locked them up and skidded, tires were fine for a one stop strategy. >Even if you'd pitted early, I'd > still would have had a shout as, with a lighter car and less laps to > complete on the new tyres I could have gone at least a sec a lap fasterthan
Quoted text (8 lines)> you in the closing stages. > > > I'm sure I would of dispatched him easily without the BF, and I didn't > > even care about this race. Next time he will be taught a hard, painful > > lesson. :-o > > Seriously, unless you learn to work with the car to acchieve speed, rather > than impose your F1 influenced will on it,
I think my F1 influenced will is doing me just fine. Not counting freezes, I have almost never lost control of my car or have caused yellows or crashes no matter what condition my tires are in. Even with freezes I've barely caused any yellows. Yes, on some tracks where the car handles like a boat in mud I do get very bored and punish the tires too much but that's more by choice than by not understanding what to do. I don't like NASCAR, and that's not going to change. On some tracks that dislike comes shining through more than others. >you will never consistently beat > me, let alone have a sliver of hope to beat people like Ginger, Ian, John, > Brian, Mike, etc... the tyres will bite you every time (cfr. Kansas). This > is the thinking man's autosport David. Think about that. <g> I'm not thinking enough? Ok. I'll take that into consideration. I guess the fact that I've gone BLIND (freezes) for three seconds 1-4 times in almost every race has had no effect on my results? I think my results have been pretty damn good considering that tiny tiny bit of a disadvantage I've had. :-) David G Fisher P.S. Had a freeze yesterday when the announcement from my pit crew said "there's just five laps to go" after crossing the s/f line. Still managed to keep control of my car and made it through T1 unscathed. Something only an F1 influenced driver could do with torn up tires (must of been with the way I drive) and his eyes closed for three seconds. :-)
Paul E 11 Aug 2002 22:40 UTC↳ reply to Tim#103964
Since it's disabled at the host, then your user account is not allowed to send a clt+alt+del to the host. If you have control of configuring the PCA accounts on the server, then you need to change the properties to allow you to send the command. -Paul Eigsti -League & Server admin Western States Racing League www.wsrlracing.com My e-mail address is false. Please reply to this news group. "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8tl59.4955$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (38 lines)> Found it but it is disabled on the host. > > -- > Tim White > www.intracmotorsports.com > > > "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:_ll59.4954$[email hidden]... > > I have 10.0.1 but I'll look for that. > > Thank You > > > > -- > > Tim White > > www.intracmotorsports.com > > > > > > "Paul E" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > What version of PCA are you using? I use 10.5, and there is a "send > > > clt+alt+del to host" button on the top of the window, just to the left > of > > > "restart host". > > > > > > -Paul Eigsti > > > -League & Server admin > > > Western States Racing League > > > www.wsrlracing.com > > > My e-mail address is false. > > > Please reply to this news group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:V3g59.3161$[email hidden]... > > > > > Thank you guys for the patience. > > > > > > > > > > If anyone knows how to check clt+alt+del from PcAnywhere remote
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Quoted text (28 lines)> > > > booting > > > > > the Host please tell me. The reason for todays boots were things > > > running > > > > in > > > > > memory that I couldn't close from Remote. If David Krol (who owns > the > > > T1 > > > > > hadn't been there we'd been screwed. > > > > > > > > > > Attached are the standings and I have the replay if I need to send > it > > to > > > > > someone? > > > > > > > > > > Thx > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Tim White > > > > > www.intracmotorsports.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Larry 11 Aug 2002 23:27 UTC↳ reply to EldredP#103979
Hehe :) -Larry "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <C8j59.35498$[email hidden]>, "Larry"<[email hidden]> > writes: > > >I had a decent day. Came out 10th, which is a party-time finish for meat a
Quoted text (12 lines)> >road course :) > > Merry <expletive> christmas. I ran out of gas on the last lap... > You're welcome.<g> > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+8.09 > N2002 Rank:+22.329 > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
In article <ONy59.4480$[email hidden]>, "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> writes: >I have done that at the Glen, with a 6 second lead on second and in the >innerloop on the last lap no less. It can be quite frustrating indeed, ended >up scored a lap down after almost seeing the finish line with such a lead, >arghhh! ;-) Mine was simple greed. I had about a 50 second lead on Larry(plenty of time for a splash/go), but I wanted to see if I could make it without a stop. I even let myself get lapped again so that I'd have one less lap to run. If the finish line hadn't been uphill, I could have coasted across. I made it to pit in before the car stopped...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+8.09 N2002 Rank:+22.329 Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Oh goodie... a new flame feud, that Pabst vs. (Insert your name here) war was getting boring <G> -- Edward Commissioner Middle-Aged Racers Association (MARA) "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Mqz59.200455$[email hidden]... > > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:G8s59.59265$[email hidden]... > > "David G Fisher" wrote... > > > > > > Well Ginger won another one. :-) Big surprise. > > > > Not really... Ginger was "on the money" and drove a very good race. He > fully > > deserved this result. > > I was being sarcastic. It never surprises me at all when Ginger wins. > > > > Thanks Tim for hosting again. It seemed like a really good race. > > > > It was, I've watched the replay and there was some good clean racing going > > on all the way down the field. Some incidents obviously, but no more than > > was par for the course, I think. > > > > > I don't like NASCAR cars on RC's, but I had a pretty good time I guess. > > > There was a one > guy after the race in the lobby who was ripping me > > > while getting drunk :-). > > > > Sure, I got really whacked on those two bottles of beer. lol ;-) > > Well women usually don't need too much alcohol to get drunk. :-o > > > Besides, some good natured ribbing never hurt anyone and you've just set > > yourself up for some more. > > > > > He said I couldn't handle the cars on any tracks other than Texas, > > > among other things. When I looked over the replay though I noticed > > > that while I started 12th and he started 6th, I reeled him in by > > > lap 7. I blew by him and took over 6th but then I got hit with a crap > > > BF penalty on lap 9 at the inner loop even though I stayed to the right > > > of the cones and immediately got back onto the track. That put me back > > > at 15th or 16th, but I moved back up and finished 6th. > > > > <plants tongue firmly in cheek> > > > > David, you're no longer playing in the hotlapper kiddiepool. > > Hotlapper old farts pool? > > >You're racing > > with the big boys now. That means you have to take care of all aspects of > > racing, which implies knowing the rules. > > I'd have to watch NASCAR to learn these dumb rules they have (like while on > the track during a green flag restart, being forced to stay behind a car > which is slowly entering the pits and watching the field disappear off into > the distance) which would be too painful. > > >To begin with, there's no excuse > > for losing the car on your own in a 36 lap sprint race. None whatsoever. > If > > you don't have the stamina and concentration to keep it on the island for > a > > mere 36 laps you have no business racing for a top 5 finish. > > Well I didn't actually do that. You wouldn't know because you were so far > behind after I passed you that you couldn't see, but I was trying to find a > way around Brian. One reason you were so far behind (other than my blinding > speed) was that you lost your car at T1 and went off course for a bit. So as > you said, "there's no excuse > for losing the car on your own in a 36 lap sprint race. None whatsoever. If > you don't have the stamina and concentration to keep it on the island for a > mere 36 laps you have no business racing for a top 5 finish." :-p > > >Then, if you do > > lose it, you have to take your medicine, go up the escape road and obey > the > > rules of the sport. None of this trying to recover and get back on the > track > > asap endangering your fellow competitors thing. > > I didn't think I'd get a black flag for that and since you were so far back, > no one was in danger when I got back on track. Even JS who has a ton of > experience with NASCAR sims misjudged the game's choice of when it would > give a black flag. > > > My plan, before you conveniently took yourself out of the equation, was to > > keep up as closely as possible without hurting my tyres for another 8 to > 10 > > laps and then start putting pressure on you as you struggled to navigate > > around the track on completely shot tyres. > > Your plan <cough> would of failed because my tires were in excellent shape > even after moving up from 13th (not 12th as I stated earlier) to 6th and > tire wear was never really an issue for me in the race. As long as you never > locked them up and skidded, tires were fine for a one stop strategy. > > >Even if you'd pitted early, I'd > > still would have had a shout as, with a lighter car and less laps to > > complete on the new tyres I could have gone at least a sec a lap faster > than > > you in the closing stages. > > > > > I'm sure I would of dispatched him easily without the BF, and I didn't > > > even care about this race. Next time he will be taught a hard, painful > > > lesson. :-o > > > > Seriously, unless you learn to work with the car to acchieve speed, rather > > than impose your F1 influenced will on it, > > I think my F1 influenced will is doing me just fine. Not counting freezes, I > have almost never lost control of my car or have caused yellows or crashes > no matter what condition my tires are in. Even with freezes I've barely > caused any yellows. Yes, on some tracks where the car handles like a boat in > mud I do get very bored and punish the tires too much but that's more by > choice than by not understanding what to do. I don't like NASCAR, and that's > not going to change. On some tracks that dislike comes shining through more > than others. > > >you will never consistently beat > > me, let alone have a sliver of hope to beat people like Ginger, Ian, John, > > Brian, Mike, etc... the tyres will bite you every time (cfr. Kansas). This > > is the thinking man's autosport David. Think about that. <g> > > I'm not thinking enough? Ok. I'll take that into consideration. I guess the > fact that I've gone BLIND (freezes) for three seconds 1-4 times in almost > every race has had no effect on my results? I think my results have been > pretty damn good considering that tiny tiny bit of a disadvantage I've had. > :-) > > David G Fisher > > P.S. Had a freeze yesterday when the announcement from my pit crew said > "there's just five laps to go" after crossing the s/f line. Still managed to > keep control of my car and made it through T1 unscathed. Something only an > F1 influenced driver could do with torn up tires (must of been with the way > I drive) and his eyes closed for three seconds. :-) > > > >
"EdwardC" wrote... > Oh goodie... a new flame feud, that Pabst vs. (Insert > your name here) war was getting boring <G><snip> Ed, I think you'll find appearances deceive in this sub-thread. ;-) Jan. =---
Apparently I didn't antagonize him enough to get him to respond. I'm losing my touch. :-) Or, maybe he just knows I'm right. As usual. David G Fisher "EdwardC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4yf69.4541$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (42 lines)> Oh goodie... a new flame feud, that Pabst vs. (Insert your name here) war > was getting boring <G> > > -- > Edward > Commissioner > Middle-Aged Racers Association > (MARA) > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Mqz59.200455$[email hidden]... > > > > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:G8s59.59265$[email hidden]... > > > "David G Fisher" wrote... > > > > > > > > Well Ginger won another one. :-) Big surprise. > > > > > > Not really... Ginger was "on the money" and drove a very good race. He > > fully > > > deserved this result. > > > > I was being sarcastic. It never surprises me at all when Ginger wins. > > > > > > Thanks Tim for hosting again. It seemed like a really good race. > > > > > > It was, I've watched the replay and there was some good clean racing > going > > > on all the way down the field. Some incidents obviously, but no more > than > > > was par for the course, I think. > > > > > > > I don't like NASCAR cars on RC's, but I had a pretty good time I > guess. > > > > There was a one > guy after the race in the lobby who was ripping me > > > > while getting drunk :-). > > > > > > Sure, I got really whacked on those two bottles of beer. lol ;-) > > > > Well women usually don't need too much alcohol to get drunk. :-o > > > > > Besides, some good natured ribbing never hurt anyone and you've just
set > > > yourself up for some more. > > > > > > > He said I couldn't handle the cars on any tracks other than Texas, > > > > among other things. When I looked over the replay though I noticed > > > > that while I started 12th and he started 6th, I reeled him in by > > > > lap 7. I blew by him and took over 6th but then I got hit with acrap > > > > BF penalty on lap 9 at the inner loop even though I stayed to the > right > > > > of the cones and immediately got back onto the track. That put meback
Quoted text (22 lines)> > > > at 15th or 16th, but I moved back up and finished 6th. > > > > > > <plants tongue firmly in cheek> > > > > > > David, you're no longer playing in the hotlapper kiddiepool. > > > > Hotlapper old farts pool? > > > > >You're racing > > > with the big boys now. That means you have to take care of all aspects > of > > > racing, which implies knowing the rules. > > > > I'd have to watch NASCAR to learn these dumb rules they have (like while > on > > the track during a green flag restart, being forced to stay behind a car > > which is slowly entering the pits and watching the field disappear off > into > > the distance) which would be too painful. > > > > >To begin with, there's no excuse > > > for losing the car on your own in a 36 lap sprint race. None
whatsoever.
Quoted text (7 lines)> > If > > > you don't have the stamina and concentration to keep it on the island > for > > a > > > mere 36 laps you have no business racing for a top 5 finish. > > > > Well I didn't actually do that. You wouldn't know because you were so
far > > behind after I passed you that you couldn't see, but I was trying tofind > a > > way around Brian. One reason you were so far behind (other than my > blinding > > speed) was that you lost your car at T1 and went off course for a bit.So > as > > you said, "there's no excuse > > for losing the car on your own in a 36 lap sprint race. Nonewhatsoever. > If > > you don't have the stamina and concentration to keep it on the islandfor > a > > mere 36 laps you have no business racing for a top 5 finish." :-p > > > > >Then, if you do > > > lose it, you have to take your medicine, go up the escape road andobey
Quoted text (12 lines)> > the > > > rules of the sport. None of this trying to recover and get back on the > > track > > > asap endangering your fellow competitors thing. > > > > I didn't think I'd get a black flag for that and since you were so far > back, > > no one was in danger when I got back on track. Even JS who has a ton of > > experience with NASCAR sims misjudged the game's choice of when it would > > give a black flag. > > > > > My plan, before you conveniently took yourself out of the equation,
was > to > > > keep up as closely as possible without hurting my tyres for another 8to > > 10 > > > laps and then start putting pressure on you as you struggled tonavigate > > > around the track on completely shot tyres. > > > > Your plan <cough> would of failed because my tires were in excellentshape
Quoted text (8 lines)> > even after moving up from 13th (not 12th as I stated earlier) to 6th and > > tire wear was never really an issue for me in the race. As long as you > never > > locked them up and skidded, tires were fine for a one stop strategy. > > > > >Even if you'd pitted early, I'd > > > still would have had a shout as, with a lighter car and less laps to > > > complete on the new tyres I could have gone at least a sec a lap
faster > > than > > > you in the closing stages. > > > > > > > I'm sure I would of dispatched him easily without the BF, and Ididn't > > > > even care about this race. Next time he will be taught a hard,painful
Quoted text (7 lines)> > > > lesson. :-o > > > > > > Seriously, unless you learn to work with the car to acchieve speed, > rather > > > than impose your F1 influenced will on it, > > > > I think my F1 influenced will is doing me just fine. Not counting
freezes, > I > > have almost never lost control of my car or have caused yellows orcrashes > > no matter what condition my tires are in. Even with freezes I've barely > > caused any yellows. Yes, on some tracks where the car handles like aboat
Quoted text (18 lines)> in > > mud I do get very bored and punish the tires too much but that's more by > > choice than by not understanding what to do. I don't like NASCAR, and > that's > > not going to change. On some tracks that dislike comes shining through > more > > than others. > > > > >you will never consistently beat > > > me, let alone have a sliver of hope to beat people like Ginger, Ian, > John, > > > Brian, Mike, etc... the tyres will bite you every time (cfr. Kansas). > This > > > is the thinking man's autosport David. Think about that. <g> > > > > I'm not thinking enough? Ok. I'll take that into consideration. I guess > the > > fact that I've gone BLIND (freezes) for three seconds 1-4 times in
almost
Quoted text (9 lines)> > every race has had no effect on my results? I think my results have been > > pretty damn good considering that tiny tiny bit of a disadvantage I've > had. > > :-) > > > > David G Fisher > > > > P.S. Had a freeze yesterday when the announcement from my pit crew said > > "there's just five laps to go" after crossing the s/f line. Still
managed > to > > keep control of my car and made it through T1 unscathed. Something onlyan
Quoted text (9 lines)> > F1 influenced driver could do with torn up tires (must of been with the > way > > I drive) and his eyes closed for three seconds. :-) > > > > > > > > > >
Yes, I know Jan, I could tell the two of you were just kidding around, but it was more entertaining than _that_ other one -- Edward Commissioner Middle-Aged Racers Association (MARA) "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BQg69.63882$[email hidden]... > "EdwardC" wrote... > > Oh goodie... a new flame feud, that Pabst vs. (Insert > > your name here) war was getting boring <G> > <snip> > > Ed, I think you'll find appearances deceive in this sub-thread. ;-) > > Jan. > =--- > >
"David G Fisher" wrote... > Apparently I didn't antagonize him enough to get him > to respond. I'm losing my touch. :-) > > Or, maybe he just knows I'm right. As usual. LOL... Suddenly I'm reminded of Days of Thunder. ;-) Jan./been busy... =---

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