Easy fix for 8500 in LFS

I had same probs as many others have in LFS with their 8500 card. I tried the AGP bios setting and even though fps did improved they still were very poor in race. I installed Rage3D tweak 3.5 and started to fiddle around with different settings, mainly directX settings and came up with a fix that enables me to drive with more than double the frame rate that the AGP bios fix provided.! I now have my bios settings restored to normal. :) 1. In the tweakers 3D directX settings disable TCL hardware. 2 Reboot PC 3. play LFS The main thing to do is to disable TCL and the reboot. You can turn it on after reboot as it doesn't seem to have any effect (?) until reboot again when playing LFS. Kari Ikonen

Ya that seems to work. Can't get it to run at 1280 though, locks upo when I select it. "Kari Ikonen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QGt89.349$[email hidden]... I had same probs as many others have in LFS with their 8500 card. I tried the AGP bios setting and even though fps did improved they still were very poor in race. I installed Rage3D tweak 3.5 and started to fiddle around with different settings, mainly directX settings and came up with a fix that enables me to drive with more than double the frame rate that the AGP bios fix provided.! I now have my bios settings restored to normal. :) 1. In the tweakers 3D directX settings disable TCL hardware. 2 Reboot PC 3. play LFS The main thing to do is to disable TCL and the reboot. You can turn it on after reboot as it doesn't seem to have any effect (?) until reboot again when playing LFS. Kari Ikonen

I recommend leaving T&L disabled also after reboot if you play many sessions of LFS as it seems to kick in sometimes if you restart the game after quitting it before. The disable TCL + reboot works 100% to restore performance though. Kari "Kari Ikonen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QGt89.349$[email hidden]... I had same probs as many others have in LFS with their 8500 card. I tried the AGP bios setting and even though fps did improved they still were very poor in race. I installed Rage3D tweak 3.5 and started to fiddle around with different settings, mainly directX settings and came up with a fix that enables me to drive with more than double the frame rate that the AGP bios fix provided.! I now have my bios settings restored to normal. :) 1. In the tweakers 3D directX settings disable TCL hardware. 2 Reboot PC 3. play LFS The main thing to do is to disable TCL and the reboot. You can turn it on after reboot as it doesn't seem to have any effect (?) until reboot again when playing LFS. Kari Ikonen

1280x960 works ok for me. Kari "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4%t89.15571$[email hidden]... > Ya that seems to work. Can't get it to run at 1280 though, locks upo whenI

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> select it. > > "Kari Ikonen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:QGt89.349$[email hidden]... > I had same probs as many others have in LFS with their 8500 card. I tried > the AGP bios setting and even though fps did improved they still were very > poor in race. I installed Rage3D tweak 3.5 and started to fiddle around

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> different settings, mainly directX settings and came up with a fix that > enables me to drive with more than double the frame rate that the AGP bios > fix provided.! I now have my bios settings restored to normal. :) > > > 1. In the tweakers 3D directX settings disable TCL hardware. > 2 Reboot PC > 3. play LFS > > The main thing to do is to disable TCL and the reboot. You can turn it on > after reboot as it doesn't seem to have any effect (?) until reboot again > when > playing LFS. > > Kari Ikonen > >

Worked for me too. Well done Kari for finding the solution. Chris "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4%t89.15571$[email hidden]... > Ya that seems to work. Can't get it to run at 1280 though, locks upo whenI

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> select it. > > "Kari Ikonen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:QGt89.349$[email hidden]... > I had same probs as many others have in LFS with their 8500 card. I tried > the AGP bios setting and even though fps did improved they still were very > poor in race. I installed Rage3D tweak 3.5 and started to fiddle around

with

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> different settings, mainly directX settings and came up with a fix that > enables me to drive with more than double the frame rate that the AGP bios > fix provided.! I now have my bios settings restored to normal. :) > > > 1. In the tweakers 3D directX settings disable TCL hardware. > 2 Reboot PC > 3. play LFS > > The main thing to do is to disable TCL and the reboot. You can turn it on > after reboot as it doesn't seem to have any effect (?) until reboot again > when > playing LFS. > > Kari Ikonen > >

Well it looks ok, nothing great IMHO, about the same as Rally Trophy. But then again I only tried it a few minutes. Has potential though for an early beta. "Kari Ikonen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Mdu89.378$[email hidden]... I recommend leaving T&L disabled also after reboot if you play many sessions of LFS as it seems to kick in sometimes if you restart the game after quitting it before. The disable TCL + reboot works 100% to restore performance though. Kari "Kari Ikonen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QGt89.349$[email hidden]... I had same probs as many others have in LFS with their 8500 card. I tried the AGP bios setting and even though fps did improved they still were very poor in race. I installed Rage3D tweak 3.5 and started to fiddle around with different settings, mainly directX settings and came up with a fix that enables me to drive with more than double the frame rate that the AGP bios fix provided.! I now have my bios settings restored to normal. :) 1. In the tweakers 3D directX settings disable TCL hardware. 2 Reboot PC 3. play LFS The main thing to do is to disable TCL and the reboot. You can turn it on after reboot as it doesn't seem to have any effect (?) until reboot again when playing LFS. Kari Ikonen

"Kari Ikonen" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:QGt89.349$[email hidden]: <snip> Please disable your html posting. Z. -- Please remove my_pants when replying by email.

Done... :) For some reason I couldn't post before I used html before.... "Zonky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Kari Ikonen" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:QGt89.349$[email hidden]: > > <snip> > > Please disable your html posting. > > Z. > > > -- > Please remove my_pants when replying by email.

That worked Kari, Thanks :) Great little tech demo imo, looking forward to more "Kari Ikonen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QGt89.349$[email hidden]... I had same probs as many others have in LFS with their 8500 card. I tried the AGP bios setting and even though fps did improved they still were very poor in race. I installed Rage3D tweak 3.5 and started to fiddle around with different settings, mainly directX settings and came up with a fix that enables me to drive with more than double the frame rate that the AGP bios fix provided.! I now have my bios settings restored to normal. :) 1. In the tweakers 3D directX settings disable TCL hardware. 2 Reboot PC 3. play LFS The main thing to do is to disable TCL and the reboot. You can turn it on after reboot as it doesn't seem to have any effect (?) until reboot again when playing LFS. Kari Ikonen

When I turn off the TCL hardware the graphics are all messed up. I didn't reboot tho. How do I disable AGP acceleration in Bios? All I can find is diable AGP 4x and disable AGP fast writes. Hercules 8500 LE Catalyst 2.2 Driver Win XP ---- Jone.

This would happen to me too sometimes, unless I rebooted. Try to reboot after the disabling. The bios fix involves turning down the AGP aperture size to minimum. In my case it was 4Mb. However the disabling of the hw T&L and rebooting increased performance to a new level compared to it and I prefer keeping my bios settings as they are. :) Kari "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ajudco$1ep30g$[email hidden]...

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> When I turn off the TCL hardware the graphics are all messed up. I didn't > reboot tho. > How do I disable AGP acceleration in Bios? All I can find is diable AGP 4x > and disable AGP fast writes. > > Hercules 8500 LE Catalyst 2.2 Driver > Win XP > > ---- > > Jone. > >

"Kari Ikonen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FEz89.547$[email hidden]... > This would happen to me too sometimes, unless I rebooted. Try to reboot > after the disabling. Thanks, It worked! Jone.

"Kari Ikonen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<QGt89.349$[email hidden]>...

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> I had same probs as many others have in LFS with their 8500 card. I > tried > the AGP bios setting and even though fps did improved they still were > very > poor in race. I installed Rage3D tweak 3.5 and started to fiddle around > with > different settings, mainly directX settings and came up with a fix that > enables me to drive with more than double the frame rate that the AGP > bios > fix provided.! I now have my bios settings restored to normal. :) > > > 1. In the tweakers 3D directX settings disable TCL hardware. > 2 Reboot PC > 3. play LFS > > The main thing to do is to disable TCL and the reboot. You can turn it > on > after reboot as it doesn't seem to have any effect (?) until reboot > again > when > playing LFS. > > Kari Ikonen > > > > > > > > > > > --

Thanks your a genious :)

Where do I get the Rage 3D Tweak from? And what drivers are you using for your 8500? (I have an 8500LE....) Thanks! Kari Ikonen wrote:

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> I had same probs as many others have in LFS with their 8500 card. I > tried > the AGP bios setting and even though fps did improved they still were > very > poor in race. I installed Rage3D tweak 3.5 and started to fiddle > around with > different settings, mainly directX settings and came up with a fix > that > enables me to drive with more than double the frame rate that the AGP > bios > fix provided.! I now have my bios settings restored to normal. :) > > > 1. In the tweakers 3D directX settings disable TCL hardware. > 2 Reboot PC > 3. play LFS > > The main thing to do is to disable TCL and the reboot. You can turn it > on > after reboot as it doesn't seem to have any effect (?) until reboot > again > when > playing LFS. > > Kari Ikonen > > > > > > > >

Where do I get the Rage 3D Tweak from? And what drivers are you using for your 8500? (I have an 8500LE....) Thanks!

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> I had same probs as many others have in LFS with their 8500 card. I > tried > the AGP bios setting and even though fps did improved they still were > very > poor in race. I installed Rage3D tweak 3.5 and started to fiddle > around with > different settings, mainly directX settings and came up with a fix > that > enables me to drive with more than double the frame rate that the AGP > bios > fix provided.! I now have my bios settings restored to normal. :) > 1. In the tweakers 3D directX settings disable TCL hardware. > 2 Reboot PC > 3. play LFS > The main thing to do is to disable TCL and the reboot. You can turn it > on > after reboot as it doesn't seem to have any effect (?) until reboot > again > when > playing LFS. > Kari Ikonen

BRH wrote: > > Where do I get the Rage 3D Tweak from? And what drivers are you using > for your 8500? (I have an 8500LE....) www.rage3d.com Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

> Where do I get the Rage 3D Tweak from? And what drivers are you using > for your 8500? (I have an 8500LE....) www.rage3d.com Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

I use the latest Omega/Plutonium 6118 drivers. http://www.omegacorner.com/ but I'm sure the official 6118 works fine too. The tweaker + a lot of other helpful stuff for your Radeon you can get at http://www.rage3d.com/ like Goy Larsen already mentioned. :) Kari "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Where do I get the Rage 3D Tweak from? And what drivers are you using > for your 8500? (I have an 8500LE....) > > Thanks! > > > > > Kari Ikonen wrote: > > > I had same probs as many others have in LFS with their 8500 card. I > > tried > > the AGP bios setting and even though fps did improved they still were > > very > > poor in race. I installed Rage3D tweak 3.5 and started to fiddle > > around with > > different settings, mainly directX settings and came up with a fix > > that > > enables me to drive with more than double the frame rate that the AGP > > bios > > fix provided.! I now have my bios settings restored to normal. :) > > > > > > 1. In the tweakers 3D directX settings disable TCL hardware. > > 2 Reboot PC > > 3. play LFS > > > > The main thing to do is to disable TCL and the reboot. You can turn it > > on > > after reboot as it doesn't seem to have any effect (?) until reboot > > again > > when > > playing LFS. > > > > Kari Ikonen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks, Guys. That worked. Kari Ikonen wrote:

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> I use the latest Omega/Plutonium 6118 drivers. http://www.omegacorner.com/ > but I'm sure the official 6118 works fine too. > The tweaker + a lot of other helpful stuff for your Radeon you can get at > http://www.rage3d.com/ like Goy Larsen already mentioned. :) > > Kari > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Where do I get the Rage 3D Tweak from? And what drivers are you using > > for your 8500? (I have an 8500LE....) > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > Kari Ikonen wrote: > > > > > I had same probs as many others have in LFS with their 8500 card. I > > > tried > > > the AGP bios setting and even though fps did improved they still were > > > very > > > poor in race. I installed Rage3D tweak 3.5 and started to fiddle > > > around with > > > different settings, mainly directX settings and came up with a fix > > > that > > > enables me to drive with more than double the frame rate that the AGP > > > bios > > > fix provided.! I now have my bios settings restored to normal. :) > > > > > > > > > 1. In the tweakers 3D directX settings disable TCL hardware. > > > 2 Reboot PC > > > 3. play LFS > > > > > > The main thing to do is to disable TCL and the reboot. You can turn it > > > on > > > after reboot as it doesn't seem to have any effect (?) until reboot > > > again > > > when > > > playing LFS. > > > > > > Kari Ikonen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks, Guys. That worked.

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> I use the latest Omega/Plutonium 6118 drivers. http://www.omegacorner.com/ > but I'm sure the official 6118 works fine too. > The tweaker + a lot of other helpful stuff for your Radeon you can get at > http://www.rage3d.com/ like Goy Larsen already mentioned. :) > Kari > > Where do I get the Rage 3D Tweak from? And what drivers are you using > > for your 8500? (I have an 8500LE....) > > Thanks! > > > I had same probs as many others have in LFS with their 8500 card. I > > > tried > > > the AGP bios setting and even though fps did improved they still were > > > very > > > poor in race. I installed Rage3D tweak 3.5 and started to fiddle > > > around with > > > different settings, mainly directX settings and came up with a fix > > > that > > > enables me to drive with more than double the frame rate that the AGP > > > bios > > > fix provided.! I now have my bios settings restored to normal. :) > > > 1. In the tweakers 3D directX settings disable TCL hardware. > > > 2 Reboot PC > > > 3. play LFS > > > The main thing to do is to disable TCL and the reboot. You can turn it > > > on > > > after reboot as it doesn't seem to have any effect (?) until reboot > > > again > > > when > > > playing LFS. > > > Kari Ikonen