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... should I get ? Whats 'hot' and what's not these days? I'm looking at putting together a whole new rig so any advices would be welcomed.... It's been so long time since i "keept track of" hardware developements so I'm a bit unsure what to get..... Is AMD still the CPU get or have the Intels fallen in price? And what about mo/bo's? I just checked a few cards but I have no real idea if what to get.... Does N2002 have any issues with any soundcards? Whats good to get there? When it comes to video-card I think I've pretty much made up my mind... I'll be gunning for a 128mb MSI GF4 Ti4400 card... The Radeon 9700 kick it ass for sure - but sadly it's to expensive at the moment. :-( Guess I'll go for XP this time tho... unless it's a huge nightmare to use it for gaming etc... Any help is much appreciated (sp?) -- ed_

I have an AMD XP 2000 on an EPoX 8KHA+ motherboard. I have been very pleased with it. I would go for a Motherboard that runs 333mhz now though instead of 266mhz. I am also using a Hercules Game Theater XP 6.1 sound card, and have had nothing but great results. The Turtle Beach Santa Cruz uses the same basic audio chip, and can be found very reasonable now. Both cards offer the ability to leave your headphones connected along with your speaker system, and choose which to use via software. I have heard that the Santa Cruz will also simulate 5.1 even if the game doesn't support it, but I can't say how that works, or if the others also do it. I believe you are getting a great video card. Lots will tell you that the Ti4200 is just as good, only underclocked, but there are reports that some companies are using lesser quality memory on the Ti4200 to keep people from buying the cheap one and getting the same results as the more expensive units. Intel deserves a look though, as you can get certain 2.26Ghz chips and easily run them at 2.66 Ghz without increasing the VCore voltage any, according to most reviews. You didn't ask about the memory, but I would recommend the Samsung PC2700. It has proven to be stable near 200mhz FSB, where the default for an XP chip is 133mhz. Hope this gives you a starting point, I'm sure it will give everyone else something to discuss<g>. Glen Pittman "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message news:4bA89.8144$[email hidden]...

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> ... should I get ? > > Whats 'hot' and what's not these days? > I'm looking at putting together a whole new rig so any advices would be > welcomed.... > > It's been so long time since i "keept track of" hardware developements so > I'm a bit unsure what to get..... Is AMD still the CPU get or have the > Intels fallen in price? > And what about mo/bo's? I just checked a few cards but I have no real

idea > if what to get.... > > Does N2002 have any issues with any soundcards? Whats good to get there? > > When it comes to video-card I think I've pretty much made up my mind... > I'll be gunning for a 128mb MSI GF4 Ti4400 card... The Radeon 9700 kickit > ass for sure - but sadly it's to expensive at the moment. :-( > > Guess I'll go for XP this time tho... unless it's a huge nightmare touse

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> it for gaming etc... > > Any help is much appreciated (sp?) > > -- > ed_ > >

> Any help is much appreciated (sp?) > > -- > ed_ > Last I heard the latest P4's were stomping on the 2.2+ athlons. When the Clawhammer AMD chip comes out (I think this fall) you will probably see AMD back on top. Vidcards...another time to wait jussssst a little bit longer. The ATI Radeon 9700 is supposed to kick the livin' daylights outta the GF 4 's that are out there. The lowcost plan might be to wait for the release of the Clawhammer chips and the next gen vidcards, then pick up the current top stuff after it gets it's price reduced. dave henrie

Dave Henrie wrote: > Last I heard the latest P4's were stomping on the 2.2+ athlons. When the > Clawhammer AMD chip comes out (I think this fall) you will probably see AMD > back on top. I agree with the above but for the price of that latest P4 chip you can get an XP2200+ and motherboard with some change left over. > > Vidcards...another time to wait jussssst a little bit longer. The ATI > Radeon 9700 is supposed to kick the livin' daylights outta the GF 4 's that > are out there. They should be shipping now. www.anandtech.com (and probably others) have a good comparison of the released 9700 Pro and GF4 4600. There is supposed to be a detuned 9700 (non-Pro) version made by OEMs, as well as a 9500 version coming according to the anandtech article. > > The lowcost plan might be to wait for the release of the Clawhammer chips > and the next gen vidcards, then pick up the current top stuff after it gets > it's price reduced. Isn't this always true with 6 month product cycles? You'll always be waiting just a little bit longer. ;-) AMD XP2400+ and 2600+ are supposedly just around the corner (big price drops on the 2200+'s this week) and Intel's talking 3G in the next little while. > > dave henrie Bottom line though is that with the vid card he mentioned and any "mid range" cpu (ie anything around 2G) the system should run any of today's games quite well, IMHO. Ken

FS2002 and IL2 run fine in W2k/XP, but N2002 apparently runs up to 25% slower according to a review I read on the web recently. Unfortunately I don't have the URL anymore. Achim "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message news:4bA89.8144$[email hidden]...

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> ... should I get ? > > Whats 'hot' and what's not these days? > I'm looking at putting together a whole new rig so any advices would be > welcomed.... > > It's been so long time since i "keept track of" hardware developements so > I'm a bit unsure what to get..... Is AMD still the CPU get or have the > Intels fallen in price? > And what about mo/bo's? I just checked a few cards but I have no real

idea > if what to get.... > > Does N2002 have any issues with any soundcards? Whats good to get there? > > When it comes to video-card I think I've pretty much made up my mind... > I'll be gunning for a 128mb MSI GF4 Ti4400 card... The Radeon 9700 kickit > ass for sure - but sadly it's to expensive at the moment. :-( > > Guess I'll go for XP this time tho... unless it's a huge nightmare touse

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> it for gaming etc... > > Any help is much appreciated (sp?) > > -- > ed_ > >

>I have heard that the Santa Cruz will > also simulate 5.1 even if the game doesn't support it, but I can't say how > that works, or if the others also do it. Yes it does, as well as the Philips AE/706 card. The TB is a god card, but I preferred the sound of the AE better. However the AE card, WinXP, and my motherboard (ASUS A7M266) would not play nice together. If you gonna run WinXP go with the Santa Cruz card, but if your gonna stick with the older O/S like Win9x then their is issues with the Santa Cruz. As far as OS goes I do like WinXP for its stability. All my titles seem to run fine some run better in WinXP than the older OS. Ratbag's DTR for example. I have not seen any real performance hits from it. If you have a home network you may want to consider getting XP pro. I have heard that XP Home can be a pain to get a network setup. One magazine even called it a set backwards. No real experience on my end to know for sure since I'm running XP pro MadDAWG

"Joachim Trensz" said: > FS2002 and IL2 run fine in W2k/XP, but N2002 apparently runs up to 25% > slower according to a review I read on the web recently. Unfortunately I > don't have the URL anymore. So I might aswell stick to Win98SE or ME then? -- ed_

"Joachim Trensz" said: So I might aswell stick to Win98SE or ME then? -- ed_

Santa Cruz's virtual 5.1 in games mixes the two front l/r channels simulating a center. In reality it doesnt work very well in games. I like the seperation without the virtual center better. No real need for XP pro in relation to home networking. Unless of course you are in a domain that requires authentication (which most home users don't). Home version does Peer to Peer just fine, in fact quite well. Mitch "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >I have heard that the Santa Cruz will > > also simulate 5.1 even if the game doesn't support it, but I can't sayhow > > that works, or if the others also do it. > > Yes it does, as well as the Philips AE/706 card. The TB is a god card, butI

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> preferred the sound of the AE better. However the AE card, WinXP, and my > motherboard (ASUS A7M266) would not play nice together. If you gonna run > WinXP go with the Santa Cruz card, but if your gonna stick with the older > O/S like Win9x then their is issues with the Santa Cruz. > > As far as OS goes I do like WinXP for its stability. All my titles seem to > run fine some run better in WinXP than the older OS. Ratbag's DTR for > example. I have not seen any real performance hits from it. If you have a > home network you may want to consider getting XP pro. I have heard that XP > Home can be a pain to get a network setup. One magazine even called it a

set > backwards. No real experience on my end to know for sure since I'm running > XP pro > > MadDAWG > >

> Last I heard the latest P4's were stomping on the 2.2+ athlons. AMD has just announced the 2600+ chips, which run cool and overclock well. See the review on www.anandtech.com and elsewhere. rms [email hidden]

Good question Ed, lots of pros and cons. If running N2002 is your main concern and you already own SE or ME, I'd stay with SE or ME, there is no actual _need_ to get XP IMO. But if you have to buy a new OS anyway, XP is perhaps the more logical alternative. Your new machine should be powerful enough to run N2002 well under XP. Achim "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message news:9LP89.12383$[email hidden]...

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> "Joachim Trensz" said: > > FS2002 and IL2 run fine in W2k/XP, but N2002 apparently runs up to 25% > > slower according to a review I read on the web recently. Unfortunately I > > don't have the URL anymore. > > So I might aswell stick to Win98SE or ME then? > > -- > ed_ > >

Not really the case with me. I had a dual boot option for a while after first installing Win XP. I ran N4 (not N2002 though) on both OS'es and found that Win98SE to be only 4-5 frames quicker than XP. I was getting around 75-80 fps at the time. I have since swapped to a WinXP only environment, and get 100fps at 1600x1200x32. That is with a Ti4600 and a XP2000+. "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ak00gv$1ep6f1$[email hidden]...

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> FS2002 and IL2 run fine in W2k/XP, but N2002 apparently runs up to 25% > slower according to a review I read on the web recently. Unfortunately I > don't have the URL anymore. > > Achim > > > > "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message > news:4bA89.8144$[email hidden]... > > ... should I get ? > > > > Whats 'hot' and what's not these days? > > I'm looking at putting together a whole new rig so any advices would be > > welcomed.... > > > > It's been so long time since i "keept track of" hardware developements

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> > I'm a bit unsure what to get..... Is AMD still the CPU get or have the > > Intels fallen in price? > > And what about mo/bo's? I just checked a few cards but I have no real > idea > > if what to get.... > > > > Does N2002 have any issues with any soundcards? Whats good to get there? > > > > When it comes to video-card I think I've pretty much made up my mind... > > I'll be gunning for a 128mb MSI GF4 Ti4400 card... The Radeon 9700 kick > it > > ass for sure - but sadly it's to expensive at the moment. :-( > > > > Guess I'll go for XP this time tho... unless it's a huge nightmare to > use > > it for gaming etc... > > > > Any help is much appreciated (sp?) > > > > -- > > ed_ > > > > > >

2 words-dual boot. Its easy to do ,very easy to use ,and you get the rock solid stability of xp and the compatibility with older stuff in 98. Definetly get XP though. It's a no brainer. A dvd burned is nice to back up 9 gigs of stuff at once too, but most are still around $400 beans. "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ak0k69$1eg1fk$[email hidden]... > Good question Ed, lots of pros and cons. > > If running N2002 is your main concern and you already own SE or ME, I'dstay

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> with SE or ME, there is no actual _need_ to get XP IMO. But if you have to > buy a new OS anyway, XP is perhaps the more logical alternative. Your new > machine should be powerful enough to run N2002 well under XP. > > Achim > > > > "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message > news:9LP89.12383$[email hidden]... > > "Joachim Trensz" said: > > > FS2002 and IL2 run fine in W2k/XP, but N2002 apparently runs up to 25% > > > slower according to a review I read on the web recently. Unfortunately

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> > > don't have the URL anymore. > > > > So I might aswell stick to Win98SE or ME then? > > > > -- > > ed_ > > > > > >

On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 02:18:09 GMT, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote: > The lowcost plan might be to wait for the release of the Clawhammer chips > and the next gen vidcards, then pick up the current top stuff after it gets > it's price reduced. I did a relatively low-cost upgrade the other week, getting an ECS K7S5a LAN, an XP1800+ an a fan, continuing to use my old RAM and GFX board and SBLive. It more than doubled my frame rates in N2002 and F1 2002, and GPL is constant 36fps. Joy ;-) I upgraded from an el-cheapo 700Mhz Celeron rig that Bertelsmann gave to all its employees a year ago. Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 17:05:09 GMT, Ed Solheim <> wrote: > > So I might aswell stick to Win98SE or ME then? 98SE it is for me. Go spend the money on better hardware and dodge the M$ taxmen when they knock on your door ;-) Uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

I've now ordered a new system with these specs: - AMD XP2200+ - MSI KT3 Ultra VIAKT333 - 512mb Apacer PC2700 memory - 80gb WD 7200HD - 8mb cache - MSI GF4 Ti4400 - 128mb. - Hercules Game Theather XP6.1 - Plextor CDRW + DVD I also think I'll go for XP as OS... I hope this system will kick some ass and that I can be able to enjoy the games I play in more detail.. -- ed_

If I had MY Choice: Best AMD Motherboard Available. This means it will NOT have a VIA Chipset. The upcomming SIS 648 stuff sounds very compelling... Fastest AMD Athlon available (2600+ was just released). Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card (I left Creative 2 years ago and have never looked back, nor wanted to look back). 1 GB DDR 2700 RAM (or 333 if that's the STANDARD highest speed at the time). ATI Radeon 9700 Pro (this one was obvious). Mitsubishi 22" 2060U Monitor. Klipsch ProMedia 5.1 Speaker System. Yamaha CDRW (The new one that writes letters and graphics on the back of the disc). Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 7200 RPM Drive. Keyboard/Mouse to taste. 500+ Watt Antec TruePower Power Supply (I think it's a 533). Lian Li PC70 (or it's current replacement) case. Intel Pro/100 LAN Card (or it's current replacement). I can personally vouch for the TBSC, Mitsu 2060U, Klipsch Speakers and LianLi case because that's what I currently have. I just LOVE spending other people's money :) -Larry "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message news:4bA89.8144$[email hidden]...

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> ... should I get ? > > Whats 'hot' and what's not these days? > I'm looking at putting together a whole new rig so any advices would be > welcomed.... > > It's been so long time since i "keept track of" hardware developements so > I'm a bit unsure what to get..... Is AMD still the CPU get or have the > Intels fallen in price? > And what about mo/bo's? I just checked a few cards but I have no real

idea > if what to get.... > > Does N2002 have any issues with any soundcards? Whats good to get there? > > When it comes to video-card I think I've pretty much made up my mind... > I'll be gunning for a 128mb MSI GF4 Ti4400 card... The Radeon 9700 kickit > ass for sure - but sadly it's to expensive at the moment. :-( > > Guess I'll go for XP this time tho... unless it's a huge nightmare touse

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> it for gaming etc... > > Any help is much appreciated (sp?) > > -- > ed_ > >

Do NOT buy VisionTek. Believe it or not, they just went under unexpectedly, and it's rumored they are in liquidation, though there are some conflicting reports right now. My PNY 4400 works great, and it only cost me around $225 at the time. It will accept and run at Ti4600 speed settings fine, but since I'm not into overclocking I set it back to stock after testing it. -Larry "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message news:4bA89.8144$[email hidden]...

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> ... should I get ? > > Whats 'hot' and what's not these days? > I'm looking at putting together a whole new rig so any advices would be > welcomed.... > > It's been so long time since i "keept track of" hardware developements so > I'm a bit unsure what to get..... Is AMD still the CPU get or have the > Intels fallen in price? > And what about mo/bo's? I just checked a few cards but I have no real

idea > if what to get.... > > Does N2002 have any issues with any soundcards? Whats good to get there? > > When it comes to video-card I think I've pretty much made up my mind... > I'll be gunning for a 128mb MSI GF4 Ti4400 card... The Radeon 9700 kickit > ass for sure - but sadly it's to expensive at the moment. :-( > > Guess I'll go for XP this time tho... unless it's a huge nightmare touse

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> it for gaming etc... > > Any help is much appreciated (sp?) > > -- > ed_ > >

The TBSC Virtual 5.1 works just dandy. The TBSC and GameTheater XP 5.1/6.1 are very, very similar cards. They are based on the same chipset. They are based on the same reference driver platform. Though it doesn't seem like it at first glance, they also have the same basic input/output ports (but the TBSC doesn't have USB ports - since they are unpowered in the XP not a great loss to me). They both sound great. I think TB does a better job with the drivers. Hercules has/had a REAL tough time with WinXP and the GTXP drivers. TB had release XP drivers out a month before XP even shipped. Hercules offered NO beta's whatsoever, and didn't even have finals available until after XP was released. Odd since they are based on the same reference driver set. I have both cards. I took out the GTXP way back in September of last year and bought the TBSC due only to the bad driver situation with the GTXP. Even though they eventually resolved that, I've not been compelled to pull out the TBSC and reinstall the GTXP because the TBSC just works too damned well. Both are great cards. The TBSC offers 90% of the features at a lower cost. -Larry "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I have an AMD XP 2000 on an EPoX 8KHA+ motherboard. I have been very > pleased with it. I would go for a Motherboard that runs 333mhz now though > instead of 266mhz. > > I am also using a Hercules Game Theater XP 6.1 sound card, and have had > nothing but great results. The Turtle Beach Santa Cruz uses the samebasic > audio chip, and can be found very reasonable now. Both cards offer the > ability to leave your headphones connected along with your speaker system, > and choose which to use via software. I have heard that the Santa Cruzwill > also simulate 5.1 even if the game doesn't support it, but I can't say how > that works, or if the others also do it. > > I believe you are getting a great video card. Lots will tell you that the > Ti4200 is just as good, only underclocked, but there are reports that some > companies are using lesser quality memory on the Ti4200 to keep peoplefrom

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> buying the cheap one and getting the same results as the more expensive > units. > > Intel deserves a look though, as you can get certain 2.26Ghz chips and > easily run them at 2.66 Ghz without increasing the VCore voltage any, > according to most reviews. > > You didn't ask about the memory, but I would recommend the Samsung PC2700. > It has proven to be stable near 200mhz FSB, where the default for an XP

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> is 133mhz. > > Hope this gives you a starting point, I'm sure it will give everyone else > something to discuss<g>. > > Glen Pittman > > "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message > news:4bA89.8144$[email hidden]... > > ... should I get ? > > > > Whats 'hot' and what's not these days? > > I'm looking at putting together a whole new rig so any advices would be > > welcomed.... > > > > It's been so long time since i "keept track of" hardware developements

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> > I'm a bit unsure what to get..... Is AMD still the CPU get or have the > > Intels fallen in price? > > And what about mo/bo's? I just checked a few cards but I have no real > idea > > if what to get.... > > > > Does N2002 have any issues with any soundcards? Whats good to get there? > > > > When it comes to video-card I think I've pretty much made up my mind... > > I'll be gunning for a 128mb MSI GF4 Ti4400 card... The Radeon 9700 kick > it > > ass for sure - but sadly it's to expensive at the moment. :-( > > > > Guess I'll go for XP this time tho... unless it's a huge nightmare to > use > > it for gaming etc... > > > > Any help is much appreciated (sp?) > > > > -- > > ed_ > > > > > >

I agree about XP Pro vs. Home. Unless you want to use RDC, the Home version is fine. I have both, and run Home right now (timing). However, networking is _different_ in Home. It does the same things, it's just set up differently. Frankly, I find it more confusing to deal with than the old method. Nope, though it gets the job done, I do not really like what they call "Simple Networking". XP Pro installs, by default, in "Simple Networking" mode, but it can be turned off. There's the difference. In Home, it can't be turned off. -Larry "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_YP89.2575$[email hidden]... > Santa Cruz's virtual 5.1 in games mixes the two front l/r channels > simulating a center. In reality it doesnt work very well in games. Ilike

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> the seperation without the virtual center better. > > > No real need for XP pro in relation to home networking. Unless of course > you are in a domain that requires authentication (which most home users > don't). Home version does Peer to Peer just fine, in fact quite well. > > Mitch > > > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > >I have heard that the Santa Cruz will > > > also simulate 5.1 even if the game doesn't support it, but I can't say > how > > > that works, or if the others also do it. > > > > Yes it does, as well as the Philips AE/706 card. The TB is a god card,

but > I > > preferred the sound of the AE better. However the AE card, WinXP, and my > > motherboard (ASUS A7M266) would not play nice together. If you gonna run > > WinXP go with the Santa Cruz card, but if your gonna stick with theolder > > O/S like Win9x then their is issues with the Santa Cruz. > > > > As far as OS goes I do like WinXP for its stability. All my titles seemto > > run fine some run better in WinXP than the older OS. Ratbag's DTR for > > example. I have not seen any real performance hits from it. If you havea > > home network you may want to consider getting XP pro. I have heard thatXP > > Home can be a pain to get a network setup. One magazine even called it a > set > > backwards. No real experience on my end to know for sure since I'mrunning

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> > XP pro > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > >

Not really stomping. Faster? Yes. And lets not forget the P4 2.53 costs many hundreds more than the 2200+. The just-released 2600+ evens things out a bit. The announced P3 3Ghz is it's own animal. It is going to require new motherboards, new power supplies, and who knows what else. None of the current boards are compatible. -Larry "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BLC89.96573$983.112272@rwcrnsc53...

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> > > Any help is much appreciated (sp?) > > > > -- > > ed_ > > > Last I heard the latest P4's were stomping on the 2.2+ athlons. When

the > Clawhammer AMD chip comes out (I think this fall) you will probably seeAMD > back on top. > Vidcards...another time to wait jussssst a little bit longer. The ATI > Radeon 9700 is supposed to kick the livin' daylights outta the GF 4 'sthat > are out there. > The lowcost plan might be to wait for the release of the Clawhammerchips > and the next gen vidcards, then pick up the current top stuff after itgets > it's price reduced. > dave henrie > >

Hehe :) That's the first thing I did with my new G4 LCD iMac (with DVD Burner) when I got it a few months ago... I backed up all my Network Servers, job I had no possible means of accomplishing until I got the iMac with that DVD Drive :) -Larry "Doug Hook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sQW89.108604$983.125021@rwcrnsc53...

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> 2 words-dual boot. Its easy to do ,very easy to use ,and you get the rock > solid stability of xp and the compatibility with older stuff in 98. > > Definetly get XP though. It's a no brainer. > > A dvd burned is nice to back up 9 gigs of stuff at once too, but most are > still around $400 beans. > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ak0k69$1eg1fk$[email hidden]... > > Good question Ed, lots of pros and cons. > > > > If running N2002 is your main concern and you already own SE or ME, I'd > stay > > with SE or ME, there is no actual _need_ to get XP IMO. But if you have

to > > buy a new OS anyway, XP is perhaps the more logical alternative. Yournew

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> > machine should be powerful enough to run N2002 well under XP. > > > > Achim > > > > > > > > "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message > > news:9LP89.12383$[email hidden]... > > > "Joachim Trensz" said: > > > > FS2002 and IL2 run fine in W2k/XP, but N2002 apparently runs up to

25% > > > > slower according to a review I read on the web recently.Unfortunately

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> I > > > > don't have the URL anymore. > > > > > > So I might aswell stick to Win98SE or ME then? > > > > > > -- > > > ed_ > > > > > > > > > > > >

Or you can be REALLY different and do what I do. I have a dual boot setup, but with TWO boots of Windows XP :) One is the general, every-day boot that has all the external peripheral drivers installed for use. The other is a Gaming-Only boot of XP that has NO drivers or devices enabled. It's all disabled in the Device Manager (Scanner, Dymo LabelWriter, etc...). I also run NO virus software, firewall software (I have a router), utilities (Norton, etc...) or anything else on the Gaming Boot. It makes for a nice, stutter-free stable system for Gaming Only. Those little tsr's for Scanners, camera's, etc... as well as NAV and other utilities steal a lot of background time doing their thing. Don't need or want it for gaming. -Larry "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Not really the case with me. I had a dual boot option for a while after > first installing Win XP. I ran N4 (not N2002 though) on both OS'es and > found that Win98SE to be only 4-5 frames quicker than XP. I was getting > around 75-80 fps at the time. > > I have since swapped to a WinXP only environment, and get 100fps at > 1600x1200x32. > > That is with a Ti4600 and a XP2000+. > > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ak00gv$1ep6f1$[email hidden]... > > FS2002 and IL2 run fine in W2k/XP, but N2002 apparently runs up to 25% > > slower according to a review I read on the web recently. Unfortunately I > > don't have the URL anymore. > > > > Achim > > > > > > > > "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message > > news:4bA89.8144$[email hidden]... > > > ... should I get ? > > > > > > Whats 'hot' and what's not these days? > > > I'm looking at putting together a whole new rig so any advices would

be > > > welcomed.... > > > > > > It's been so long time since i "keept track of" hardware developements > so > > > I'm a bit unsure what to get..... Is AMD still the CPU get or havethe > > > Intels fallen in price? > > > And what about mo/bo's? I just checked a few cards but I have no real > > idea > > > if what to get.... > > > > > > Does N2002 have any issues with any soundcards? Whats good to getthere? > > > > > > When it comes to video-card I think I've pretty much made up mymind... > > > I'll be gunning for a 128mb MSI GF4 Ti4400 card... The Radeon 9700kick > > it > > > ass for sure - but sadly it's to expensive at the moment. :-( > > > > > > Guess I'll go for XP this time tho... unless it's a huge nightmareto

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> > use > > > it for gaming etc... > > > > > > Any help is much appreciated (sp?) > > > > > > -- > > > ed_ > > > > > > > > > > > >

"Larry" > I just LOVE spending other people's money :) > > -Larry Dang spending other people's money types........grrrrrrrr dave henrie

Thats a killer system Ed. You should be happy for a long time. What are you upgrading from? I went from a P II 350 with 128 megs pc 100 , 8 gig 5400 rpm hd and voodoo5 5500 pci--- To an Athlon 1.2ghz w/ 266 fsb ,512 meg pc 133 ,GF2 GTS 64meg and 30 gig 7200 rpm hd and the difference was unbelieveable. Now my system is old again. Time for the kids to get this one and build myself another one. :-) "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yX799.26$[email hidden]...

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> I've now ordered a new system with these specs: > > - AMD XP2200+ > - MSI KT3 Ultra VIAKT333 > - 512mb Apacer PC2700 memory > - 80gb WD 7200HD - 8mb cache > - MSI GF4 Ti4400 - 128mb. > - Hercules Game Theather XP6.1 > - Plextor CDRW + DVD > > I also think I'll go for XP as OS... > > I hope this system will kick some ass and that I can be able to enjoy the > games I play in more detail.. > > -- > ed_ >

"Doug Hook" wrote: > Thats a killer system Ed. You should be happy for a long time. What areyou > upgrading from? Well my current 'rig' is a Athlon 1.33gz, 385mb SDRAM, 40gb IBM 7200rpm disk, 64mb GF2 Pro and SBlive... Although this system isn't completely nuts either - I would like to see some more FPS and details in some of the games I play.... -- ed_

Ed: I just built similar system: AMD XP 2100+ MSI KT3 Ultra VIA KT333 1.5 gig PC 2100 2 80 gig WD's w/8mb buffer MSI GF Ti4600 128 mb HP CDRW XP Pro Only advice I could give is to make sure you install XP as Admin for Pro or Owner for XP home. Bill "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yX799.26$[email hidden]...

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> I've now ordered a new system with these specs: > > - AMD XP2200+ > - MSI KT3 Ultra VIAKT333 > - 512mb Apacer PC2700 memory > - 80gb WD 7200HD - 8mb cache > - MSI GF4 Ti4400 - 128mb. > - Hercules Game Theather XP6.1 > - Plextor CDRW + DVD > > I also think I'll go for XP as OS... > > I hope this system will kick some ass and that I can be able to enjoy the > games I play in more detail.. > > -- > ed_ >