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"Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:44beea39$0$17544$[email hidden]... > http://www.iracing.com/ > > Getting closer. YAWN

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> "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:44beea39$0$17544$[email hidden]... > > http://www.iracing.com/ > > > > Getting closer. > > YAWN

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> > Band Two wrote: >> "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:44beea39$0$17544$[email hidden]. >> com.au... >> > http://www.iracing.com/ >> > >> > Getting closer. >> >> YAWN > > LOL >

laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances doesn't get yer blood up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate will be Vunderbra!!! dave henrie (of course I may be replying to a yawn cuz it doesn't have one of Bernie's all conquering Eff One cars like that super fast Minardi or the really cooking Toro Roso or....even better that Orang...uhmm I mean the SUPER DUPER Aguri. Yessir....Effen one is THE place for cutting edge. Or maybe you are one the NExtel only crowd. Certainly a little ol Late Model stock car will never thrill like all those big ol Nextel cars gliding around Daytona for lap after lap after lap. Yer right..if it ain't Cup racin' it aint.) dh

Dave Henrie wrote: > laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances > doesn't get yer blood up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify > that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate > will be Vunderbra!!! Who cares? Where's the transporter? Don McCorkle

> > laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances > doesn't get yer blood up? Maybe, but a simple press release doesn't... Wake me when there's product.

"mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Wake me when there's product. > My point exactly.

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> [email hidden] wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > >> >> Band Two wrote: >>> "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:44beea39$0$17544$[email hidden]. >>> com.au... >>> > http://www.iracing.com/ >>> > >>> > Getting closer. >>> >>> YAWN >> >> LOL >> > > laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances > doesn't get yer blood up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify > that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate > will be Vunderbra!!! > > dave henrie > > (of course I may be replying to a yawn cuz it doesn't have one of Bernie's > all conquering Eff One cars like that super fast Minardi or the really > cooking Toro Roso or....even better that Orang...uhmm I mean the SUPER > DUPER Aguri. Yessir....Effen one is THE place for cutting edge. > Or maybe you are one the NExtel only crowd. Certainly a little ol Late > Model stock car will never thrill like all those big ol Nextel cars > gliding > around Daytona for lap after lap after lap. Yer right..if it ain't Cup > racin' it aint.) > > dh

It's all about the cars for me. Life is short.....no point in driving *any* sim with boring cars just because they were paid to give their permission. And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1. -- David G Fisher

> And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1. But if the sim is uber-realistic as people claim to want there's no way on earth that an amateur on the wrong side of 40 can drive a modern billion $ F1 car using a 19" monitor and controls that retail for $100 (or even $1000 or $10,000), it would be like practicing for a heart transplant with milton bradley's Operation game. Heck, even Michael Schumacher has problems making them stop and turn to enter the Monaco pits...; ) So either you want realism or your want F1, but you can't have both....

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>> And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1. > > But if the sim is uber-realistic as people claim to want there's no way > on earth that an amateur on the wrong side of 40 can drive a modern > billion $ F1 car using a 19" monitor and controls that retail for $100 > (or even $1000 or $10,000), it would be like practicing for a heart > transplant with milton bradley's Operation game. Heck, even Michael > Schumacher has problems making them stop and turn to enter the Monaco > pits...; ) > > So either you want realism or your want F1, but you can't have both....

None of us could even drive a 145 hp Skip Barber car, or a late model (whatever that is) looking through a 19 in. hole two feet in front of our heads with $100 controls. :-) That's why sim racing isn't really.... -- David G Fisher

I'd venture to bet that most would find driving an F1 car or a Prototype far easier than an sprint car or a stockcar. With so much of those cars dependent upon electronics (TC, ABS, LC), the driver isn't in need of much throttle control - just steer the dogone thing! Kinda what makes the GTP mod so fun. The driver has to tame the beast; not the other way around! -- Wag "mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1. But if the sim is uber-realistic as people claim to want there's no way on earth that an amateur on the wrong side of 40 can drive a modern billion $ F1 car using a 19" monitor and controls that retail for $100 (or even $1000 or $10,000), it would be like practicing for a heart transplant with milton bradley's Operation game. Heck, even Michael Schumacher has problems making them stop and turn to enter the Monaco pits...; ) So either you want realism or your want F1, but you can't have both....

B Wegner wrote: > I'd venture to bet that most would find driving an F1 car or a Prototype far easier than an sprint car or a stockcar. With so much of those cars dependent upon electronics (TC, ABS, LC), the driver isn't in need of much throttle control - just steer the dogone thing! > I guess all the buttons, dials, knobs & read-outs on the wheel are just for the drinks dispensor then... ;) http://www.grandprixlegends.com/F1LegendsSite/(F1Legends)/AML002%28GPL%5FBaseCatalog%29/F1Legends.htm

B Wegner wrote: > I'd venture to bet that most would find driving an F1 car or a Prototype far easier than an sprint car or a stockcar. With so much of those cars dependent upon electronics (TC, ABS, LC), the driver isn't in need of much throttle control - just steer the dogone thing! I watched a piece on "5th gear" about some UK gazillonaire who'd just bought an Ex MS Ferari F1 car (2002 2003 vintage?), he actually owned (ran?) his on ELMS team, after a 1/2 day briefing he managed to stall it leaving the pits, after another half day he managed to get to within 1 second of the track record FOR THE FERRARI ROAD CAR ;) And this is a guy who owned several ferraris and other race cars...

Byron Forbes wrote: > http://www.iracing.com/ > > Getting closer. > > :) This inspired me to pull my wheel out of the closet and give GPL and GTP another go. :) Much of the site is re-hashed, but the new content makes me very happy, particularly the (vague) details on the tire and aero models. Jason

Dave Henrie wrote: > laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances > doesn't get yer blood up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify > that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate > will be Vunderbra!!! The track list is orgasmic. I think Road Atlanta might be the only essential American natural terrain road course not on there.

> laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very ***y tiny tolerances > doesn't get yer *** up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify > that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate > will be Vunderbra!!! The track list is ***ic. I think Road Atlanta might be the only essential American natural terrain road course not on there.

David G Fisher wrote: > It's all about the cars for me. Life is short.....no point in driving *any* > sim with boring cars just because they were paid to give their permission. > And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1. I can't really agree with you (lots of things I'd rather drive than a modern F1 car, then again I'd rather fly my F-86 in a sim over an F-15) but...I'd be highly surprised if iRacing doesn't feature a modern-spec F1 car of some sort, if not in the initial release. If the sim features ladder systems for karts, open wheelers, stock cars, and sports cars, I'd think eventually you'll be given the option to graduate to the big boys. Also, I dunno if anyone else noticed, but the animation on the main page has a rendered Star Mazda which isn't mentioned anywhere else on the site.

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> > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> [email hidden] wrote in >> news:[email hidden]: >> >>> >>> Band Two wrote: >>>> "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>> news:44beea39$0$17544$[email hidden]. >>>> com.au... >>>> > http://www.iracing.com/ >>>> > >>>> > Getting closer. >>>> >>>> YAWN >>> >>> LOL >>> >> >> laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances >> doesn't get yer blood up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify >> that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate >> will be Vunderbra!!! >> >> dave henrie >> >> (of course I may be replying to a yawn cuz it doesn't have one of >> Bernie's >> all conquering Eff One cars like that super fast Minardi or the really >> cooking Toro Roso or....even better that Orang...uhmm I mean the SUPER >> DUPER Aguri. Yessir....Effen one is THE place for cutting edge. >> Or maybe you are one the NExtel only crowd. Certainly a little ol Late >> Model stock car will never thrill like all those big ol Nextel cars >> gliding >> around Daytona for lap after lap after lap. Yer right..if it ain't Cup >> racin' it aint.) >> >> dh > > It's all about the cars for me. Life is short.....no point in driving > *any* sim with boring cars just because they were paid to give their > permission. And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1. >

Some interesting comments. I think Kaemmer shows that he knows the way forward though ie everything in 1 place. All mods, tracks leagues in 1 place - that is going to be EXTREMELY attractive to many - rFactor being a perfect example. Besides, in time (hmmm, I seem to have been saying this for about a decate - LOL) I'm betting there won't be many types of cars unavailable over there and an ever growing list of tracks. I wonder how much time?

B Wegner wrote: > I'd venture to bet that most would find driving an F1 car or a Prototype > far easier than an sprint car or a stockcar. With so much of those cars > dependent upon electronics (TC, ABS, LC), the driver isn't in need of > much throttle control - just steer the dogone thing! Yepp, that's why they are thinking about replacing those moody, sensitive human drivers earning millions with... monkeys! A couple bananas... done! l8er ronny

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> > Kinda what makes the GTP mod so fun. The driver has to tame the beast; > not the other way around! > > -- > > Wag > > "mcewena" <[email hidden] <mailto:[email hidden]>> > wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1. > > But if the sim is uber-realistic as people claim to want there's no way > on earth that an amateur on the wrong side of 40 can drive a modern > billion $ F1 car using a 19" monitor and controls that retail for $100 > (or even $1000 or $10,000), it would be like practicing for a heart > transplant with milton bradley's Operation game. Heck, even Michael > Schumacher has problems making them stop and turn to enter the Monaco > pits...; ) > > So either you want realism or your want F1, but you can't have both....

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> Dave Henrie wrote: > >> laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances >> doesn't get yer blood up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify >> that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate >> will be Vunderbra!!! > > > Who cares? Where's the transporter? > > > Don McCorkle

. . . and the bears ! . . . Gots ta hav me teddy. Elrikk .

mcewena wrote: > Maybe, but a simple press release doesn't... > > Wake me when there's product. I agree to an extent, but we're also looking at a company consisting of people with a tangible track record (regardless of how you feel about Kaemmer's previous work). A real developer with real financial backing = an eventual product. I'm not advising to buy into the hype necessarily, but certainly if you enjoyed GPL and N2003 it's worth getting a tiny bit excited.

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> Dave Henrie wrote: > >> laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very teeny tiny tolerances >> doesn't get yer blood up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify >> that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate >> will be Vunderbra!!! > > The track list is orgasmic. I think Road Atlanta might be the only > essential American natural terrain road course not on there.

Really? I thought the track list was kind of poor. Very few would I get excited about racing. -- David G Fisher

David G Fisher wrote: > Really? I thought the track list was kind of poor. Very few would I get > excited about racing. I think the track list is kinda short, and there are several non-US tracks I'd like to drive (Mosport, Mont Tremblant, Nurby, Spa, Suzuka, etc), but as far as American stuff goes they have most of the essential road courses for me: Daytona Lime Rock Mid-Ohio Road America VIR Watkins Glen Willow Springs Only ones I'd really like US-wise and don't see there are Laguna Seca, Sears Pt, Road Atlanta, and Sebring. Maybe the various Pocono infield tracks. Would be nice to have Riverside or historical versions of the tracks they have the rights to as well.

jason moyer wrote: > The track list is orgasmic. Put it back in your pants.

On 20 Jul 2006 17:01:32 -0700, "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I can't really agree with you (lots of things I'd rather drive than a >modern F1 car, then again I'd rather fly my F-86 in a sim over an F-15) Nah - ME-109 or FW190...<g> Eldred -- Please help my fundraising efforts towards the Make-a-Wish foundation. I'm riding in the Wish-A-Mile 300 bicycle tour July 27-30. If you'd like to donate, please check this link: http://tinyurl.com/hlvgk Thanks! Your generosity is appreciated.

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> "jason moyer" wrote: >>I can't really agree with you (lots of things I'd rather drive than a >>modern F1 car, then again I'd rather fly my F-86 in a sim over an F-15) > Nah - ME-109 or FW190...<g> > > Eldred

You've discovered the IL-2 universe, Eldred? As Monty Burns would say, "EXCELENT!!" :)

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>[email hidden] wrote: > >> "jason moyer" wrote: > >>>I can't really agree with you (lots of things I'd rather drive than a >>>modern F1 car, then again I'd rather fly my F-86 in a sim over an F-15) > >> Nah - ME-109 or FW190...<g> >> >> Eldred > >You've discovered the IL-2 universe, Eldred? >As Monty Burns would say, "EXCELENT!!" > >:)

No - that was from an older game. But it was so long ago I'm not sure what game it WAS. Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe, I think. I may have IL2 packed in a box somewhere, but I don't think I've loaded it yet.<g> Eldred -- Please help my fundraising efforts towards the Make-a-Wish foundation. I'm riding in the Wish-A-Mile 300 bicycle tour July 27-30. If you'd like to donate, please check this link: http://tinyurl.com/hlvgk Thanks! Your generosity is appreciated.

> I agree to an extent, but we're also looking at a company consisting of > people with a tangible track record The same could be said about the Deloren sports car ;)

[email hidden] wrote: > No - that was from an older game. But it was so long ago I'm not sure > what game it WAS. Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe, I think. I may > have IL2 packed in a box somewhere, but I don't think I've loaded it > yet.<g> > > Eldred If you still have fond memories of SWL, you really should fire up IL2! It's VERY fun. -Greg

[email hidden] wrote in news:[email hidden]: > Nah - ME-109 or FW190...<g> > > Eldred Eldred! Long time no see. You still owe me a race, man. :-) What sims are you driving these days? -- Ped Xing