RASCAR schedule change for 8/31/02

The race will NOT be run at Darlington. I don't believe that good racing is possible there. We'll be running at<drumroll...> California. And don't think that I chose it because I liked it. I can't STAND the effing track. My other choices would have been Dover, Vegas, or Lowes'... But, it's one that we haven't run recently(April), and it's one that the WC won't run for the rest of the season. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+8.09 N2002 Rank:+22.329 Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I like Darlington, but after practicing the fixed FAST last night I believe this is a good call. Darlington would have had about twice as many cautions as Bristol did. Thanks for letting us know early in the week. Brian Oster On 27 Aug 2002 23:40:16 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:

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>The race will NOT be run at Darlington. I don't believe that good racing is >possible there. We'll be running at<drumroll...> > >California. And don't think that I chose it because I liked it. I can't STAND >the effing track. My other choices would have been Dover, Vegas, or Lowes'... > But, it's one that we haven't run recently(April), and it's one that the WC >won't run for the rest of the season. > >Eldred

wusses :) You ran Sears but you dont run Darlington because it's hard to pass??? LOL "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The race will NOT be run at Darlington. I don't believe that good racingis

"Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > wusses :) > > You ran Sears but you dont run Darlington because it's hard to pass??? LOL Nothing to do with being able to pass, plenty to do with: a) the fixed "fast" setup b) the wallriding penalty. The pair combined would no doubt make for a disastrous race. I haven't run California for an age - maybe not even since N4. I seem to remember the default fast setup there being extremely loose on corner entry? At least it's wide... Mark Reading, UK

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:22:11 -0400, Phillip Malphrus, Jr. <[email hidden]> wrote: > wusses :) > > You ran Sears but you dont run Darlington because it's hard to pass??? LOL > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message I tried to put a few laps in at Darlington last night and couldn't get around the place on my own! Crazy to think how racing in a "tight pack" should be possible there at all. cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

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> <snip> > > I tried to put a few laps in at Darlington last night > and couldn't get around the place on my own! > Crazy to think how racing in a "tight pack" should > be possible there at all. >

No offense Uwe, but there are *slightly* more skilled virtual stock car drivers out there. Jan. <g> =---

On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:30:06 GMT, Jan Verschueren wrote: > > No offense Uwe, but there are *slightly* more skilled virtual stock car > drivers out there. > Argh, offense!!! I hereby declare an endless flamewar on you. May a thousand flies molest your underpants! Your father was a hamster and your mother smelled of elderberries! I fart in your general direction! ;-) Of course, you're right. I did not even try to go fast, just drive halfway decent laps, and even that did not work, so that's my definition of "hard track", even though there might be others out there more skilled than me. Cheers, Uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

In article <yK0b9.92051$[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> writes: >No offense Uwe, but there are *slightly* more skilled virtual stock car >drivers out there. But you're racing with some who *aren't* as skilled. The SOAR-LAS race there was a disaster for me. I couldn't stay out of the way without getting into the wall - then the "wall-suck" got me... :-( Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+8.09 N2002 Rank:+22.329 Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, "Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> writes:

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>wusses :) > >You ran Sears but you dont run Darlington because it's hard to pass??? LOL > >"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> The race will NOT be run at Darlington. I don't believe that good racing >is

*I* didn't run Sears - I skipped both races. Besides, if someone messed up at Sears, they spin off the track. At Darlington, they spin into the wall...then back into the racing line. Totally different, IMO. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+8.09 N2002 Rank:+22.329 Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

If you cannot drive a setup try using the help the game gives you. No flaming intended :) -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com

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>On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:22:11 -0400, Phillip Malphrus, Jr. ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >> wusses :) >> >> You ran Sears but you dont run Darlington because it's hard to pass??? >LOL >> >> "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >I tried to put a few laps in at Darlington last night and >couldn't get around the place on my own! Crazy to think how >racing in a "tight pack" should be possible there at all. >

If you lift off completely into T1 this can happen with the fast setup. Just don't lift off completely. :) -- Peter Ives (AKA Pete Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying via email If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -21.77

Darlington is a fun track with a great sense of speed since its so narrow, its really not so hard as long as you know how to control your car, which is kind of an important part of racing. Oh well. I suck at California anyway. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The race will NOT be run at Darlington. I don't believe that good racingis > possible there. We'll be running at<drumroll...> > > California. And don't think that I chose it because I liked it. I can'tSTAND > the effing track. My other choices would have been Dover, Vegas, orLowes'... > But, it's one that we haven't run recently(April), and it's one that theWC

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> won't run for the rest of the season. > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+8.09 > N2002 Rank:+22.329 > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:54:53 -0400, "frederickson" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Darlington is a fun track with a great sense of speed since its so narrow, >its really not so hard as long as you know how to control your car, which is >kind of an important part of racing. Oh well. I suck at California anyway. > > Ya, but Darlington IS a hard, very tight track. If we all had ping times of 50 and the skill of Grandy we might be able to pull it off. It would have been a disaster for RASCAR with the wide array of driving skills and intermittent warp. I feel like I have pretty good car control and I usually don't put in a lot of off-line practice for the RASCAR races, but I was planning on practicing Darlington all week to keep from making an ass of myself. I actually find T1 & 2 at Darlington to be pretty easy, but T3 & 4 is where I always get into trouble and if you get into trouble it is going to be very difficult for drivers behind you to avoid you. Add in the warp factor... switching to California for this weeks race was a good call. Brian Oster

If you turn on the ideal racing line it tells you exactly where to go, i always use the red building to remind myself to brake, and then on the wider turn remember that you have to take a really high line and cut through the end of the turn. "Brian Oster" <bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:54:53 -0400, "frederickson" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Darlington is a fun track with a great sense of speed since its sonarrow, > >its really not so hard as long as you know how to control your car, whichis > >kind of an important part of racing. Oh well. I suck at Californiaanyway.

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> > > > > > Ya, but Darlington IS a hard, very tight track. If we all had ping > times of 50 and the skill of Grandy we might be able to pull it off. > It would have been a disaster for RASCAR with the wide array of > driving skills and intermittent warp. > > I feel like I have pretty good car control and I usually don't put in > a lot of off-line practice for the RASCAR races, but I was planning on > practicing Darlington all week to keep from making an ass of myself. > I actually find T1 & 2 at Darlington to be pretty easy, but T3 & 4 is > where I always get into trouble and if you get into trouble it is > going to be very difficult for drivers behind you to avoid you. Add > in the warp factor... switching to California for this weeks race was > a good call. > > Brian Oster

WooHoo! -Larry "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The race will NOT be run at Darlington. I don't believe that good racingis > possible there. We'll be running at<drumroll...> > > California. And don't think that I chose it because I liked it. I can'tSTAND > the effing track. My other choices would have been Dover, Vegas, orLowes'... > But, it's one that we haven't run recently(April), and it's one that theWC

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> won't run for the rest of the season. > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+8.09 > N2002 Rank:+22.329 > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Yeah, some can get TWO laps in before hitting the wall! -Larry "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yK0b9.92051$[email hidden]...

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> "Uwe Schuerkamp" wrote... > > <snip> > > > > I tried to put a few laps in at Darlington last night > > and couldn't get around the place on my own! > > Crazy to think how racing in a "tight pack" should > > be possible there at all. > > > > No offense Uwe, but there are *slightly* more skilled virtual stock car > drivers out there. > > Jan. <g> > =--- > >

WooHoo! -Larry

In article <Jsqb9.46865$[email hidden]>, "frederickson" <[email hidden]> writes: >If you turn on the ideal racing line it tells you exactly where to go, i >always use the red building to remind myself to brake, and then on the wider >turn remember that you have to take a really high line and cut through the >end of the turn. I love it - I keep seeing people mention braking markers that I never even SEE. I don't remember seeing that building.... I'm too busy just trying to see the groove on the track - I haven't had time to look OUTSIDE the track. :-( Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+8.09 N2002 Rank:+22.329 Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

How anyone can miss the red building in darlington is beyond comprehension... I hope you dont drive in real life looking for the groove "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <Jsqb9.46865$[email hidden]>, > "frederickson" <[email hidden]> writes: > > >If you turn on the ideal racing line it tells you exactly where to go, i > >always use the red building to remind myself to brake, and then on thewider > >turn remember that you have to take a really high line and cut throughthe > >end of the turn. > > I love it - I keep seeing people mention braking markers that I never evenSEE. > I don't remember seeing that building.... I'm too busy just trying tosee the

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> groove on the track - I haven't had time to look OUTSIDE the track. :-( > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+8.09 > N2002 Rank:+22.329 > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <gdTb9.108905$%[email hidden]>, "frederickson" <[email hidden]> writes: >How anyone can miss the red building in darlington is beyond >comprehension... Simple - I'm concentrating on the TRACK, and the cars on it, not the stuff *outside* the track. Besides, did you ever think that maybe some of us turn off some 'eye candy' in order to get better frame rates? Hmmm...? >I hope you dont drive in real life looking for the groove Not sure what you mean here. Oh well...I'll survive. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+8.09 N2002 Rank:+22.329 Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

What red building? I doin't have trackside objects up all the way 9and I bet Eldred doesn't either. I honestly don't recall seeing a red building either. In article <gdTb9.108905$%[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > How anyone can miss the red building in darlington is beyond > comprehension... > I hope you dont drive in real life looking for the groove > -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Barbarian Diecast Collector (490+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

Large red former press building on your right as you enter T3.........which used to be T1 :) You can't miss it, so your graphics must be down as you say. Fwiw, it's what I use as a reference to get off the brakes, and on the gas. John "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> What red building? > > I doin't have trackside objects up all the way 9and I bet Eldred doesn't > either. I honestly don't recall seeing a red building either. > > In article <gdTb9.108905$%[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > How anyone can miss the red building in darlington is beyond > > comprehension... > > I hope you dont drive in real life looking for the groove > > > > -- > ========================================================= > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > RASCAR Roster > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar > Barbarian Diecast Collector (490+ cars and counting) > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > =========================================================

"John Pancoast" wrote... > Large red former press building on your right as you enter > T3.........which used to be T1 :) You can't miss it, so your > graphics must be down as you say. Fwiw, it's what I use as a > reference to get off the brakes, and on the gas. Which track are we talking about again? Jan. ;-) =---

On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 02:13:18 GMT, John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote: >What red building? > >I doin't have trackside objects up all the way 9and I bet Eldred doesn't >either. I honestly don't recall seeing a red building either. > I can understand that, but that big red building has been my queue to stand on the brakes since N4. Brian Oster

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9o2c9.96604$[email hidden]...

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> "John Pancoast" wrote... > > Large red former press building on your right as you enter > > T3.........which used to be T1 :) You can't miss it, so your > > graphics must be down as you say. Fwiw, it's what I use as a > > reference to get off the brakes, and on the gas. > > Which track are we talking about again? > > Jan. ;-)

Darlington ? Or did I miss part of the thread :) John > =--- > >

"John Pancoast" wrote... > <snip> > > Darlington ? Or did I miss part of the thread :) Mixed up threads at my end... sorry. Jan. =---