I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, even switching
between screens was horribly
slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird.
P4 2.53
Ti4600
120gig HD
1gig PC800RDRAM
SB Audigy EX Plantinum.
Problems with nVidia Detonator 40.41 drivers
Users reported mixed results with the new Detonator 40.41 drivers: slowdowns and boot failures in NR2002, flashing in GPL and N2002, broken control panel under Windows 2000, and poor LFS frame rates. Tom Pabst advised re-setting chipset-specific options and doing a clean uninstall, which fixed one user's control panel error. Several reverted to the 30.xx drivers.
Automated summary.
On the second attempt to install them, computer would not even boot up, had
to boot up in safe mode and roll back again to the 30.82's to get it to
work.
"Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, even switching > between screens was horribly > slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. > > P4 2.53 > Ti4600 > 120gig HD > 1gig PC800RDRAM > SB Audigy EX Plantinum. > >No issues here. Picked up a few frames, but I swear I think the overal
quality is down a notch. That may have been intentional, you know :)
-Larry
"Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, even switching > between screens was horribly > slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. > > P4 2.53 > Ti4600 > 120gig HD > 1gig PC800RDRAM > SB Audigy EX Plantinum. > >Morris...
With a P4 platform....you have an Intel Northbridge chipset....(or the
equivalent of). Many settings for Intel chipsets are not "optimized" by
default on the Nv properties tabs. Your installation of the new drivers
would have reset all those to their defaults! Perhaps you don't remember
setting them properly at one time? I don't know.....but the new Nv drivers
wouldn't cause your system to just slow to a crawl......drivers don't do
that. Incorrect settings or incompatible settings will.
TP
"Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, even switching > between screens was horribly > slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. > > P4 2.53 > Ti4600 > 120gig HD > 1gig PC800RDRAM > SB Audigy EX Plantinum. > >"Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
> I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, even switching
> between screens was horribly
> slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird.
>
Weren't they ripped from nforce chipset drivers?
I wouldn't trust drivers that had hacked .inf files
to make them work.
iksteh
"iksteh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3d6f2fc5$0$26216$[email hidden]...
> Weren't they ripped from nforce chipset drivers?
my bad.. next time I read earlier threads :)
iksteh
The "new" detonators are version 40.41 - direct from the nvidia web site, not ripped from
anywhere else. They are working great for me on Windows XP Pro.
Whenever anyone talks about the "new drivers" and doesn't give a version number, the post
is worthless. nvidia drivers are updated frequently.
Keith.
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>"Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >> I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, even switching >> between screens was horribly >> slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. >> > >Weren't they ripped from nforce chipset drivers? > >I wouldn't trust drivers that had hacked .inf files >to make them work. > >iksteh >Hi,
After installing 40.41 drivers under Windows 2000, I can't access Nvidia
properties in display settings. error is
An error occuured while Windows was working with the Control Panel file
C:\WINNT\System32\desk.cpl
To confirm this is a driver problem, I installed the driver on 2 different
builds of Windows 2000 - Advanced Server and workstation. I had the same
problem with both. The Workstation build was totally clean - with no geforce
tweak, riva or other utilities installed.
Looks like these drivers might only be good for XP for the moment, though
they are listed as being XP/2000 compatibile
TIm
"Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, even switching > between screens was horribly > slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. > > P4 2.53 > Ti4600 > 120gig HD > 1gig PC800RDRAM > SB Audigy EX Plantinum. > >Tim...
I've seen that error....heard of it.......before. The problem is, I can't
remember the "fix" for it. But, I'm pretty sure it had to do with one of
the component files in the new drivers not "overwriting" one of the older
components....or not overwriting it properly. The fix had something to do
with using NvCleaner.....then reinstalling the new drivers.
I always "clean" my existing drivers out.....so haven't had this problem (in
a long time).
Check out Guru3D boards and I bet you this is the answer.
TP
"Tim Epstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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switching
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> Hi, > > After installing 40.41 drivers under Windows 2000, I can't access Nvidia > properties in display settings. error is > > An error occuured while Windows was working with the Control Panel file > C:\WINNT\System32\desk.cpl > > To confirm this is a driver problem, I installed the driver on 2 different > builds of Windows 2000 - Advanced Server and workstation. I had the same > problem with both. The Workstation build was totally clean - with noQuoted text (13 lines)
> tweak, riva or other utilities installed. > > Looks like these drivers might only be good for XP for the moment, though > they are listed as being XP/2000 compatibile > > TIm > > > > > "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, evenQuoted text (12 lines)
> > between screens was horribly > > slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. > > > > P4 2.53 > > Ti4600 > > 120gig HD > > 1gig PC800RDRAM > > SB Audigy EX Plantinum. > > > > > >Thanks Tom - I'll try the Detonator destroyer utility and post what happens.
Apology for continuing mostly OT thread.
"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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different
> > builds of Windows 2000 - Advanced Server and workstation. I had the same
> > problem with both. The Workstation build was totally clean - with no
> geforce
> > tweak, riva or other utilities installed.
> >
> > Looks like these drivers might only be good for XP for the moment,though
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> Tim... > > I've seen that error....heard of it.......before. The problem is, I can't > remember the "fix" for it. But, I'm pretty sure it had to do with one of > the component files in the new drivers not "overwriting" one of the older > components....or not overwriting it properly. The fix had something to do > with using NvCleaner.....then reinstalling the new drivers. > > I always "clean" my existing drivers out.....so haven't had this problemQuoted text (18 lines)
> a long time). > > Check out Guru3D boards and I bet you this is the answer. > > TP > > > "Tim Epstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:hIKb9.3153$[email hidden]... > > Hi, > > > > After installing 40.41 drivers under Windows 2000, I can't access Nvidia > > properties in display settings. error is > > > > An error occuured while Windows was working with the Control Panel file > > C:\WINNT\System32\desk.cpl > > > > To confirm this is a driver problem, I installed the driver on 2Quoted text (25 lines)
> > they are listed as being XP/2000 compatibile > > > > TIm > > > > > > > > > > "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, even > switching > > > between screens was horribly > > > slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. > > > > > > P4 2.53 > > > Ti4600 > > > 120gig HD > > > 1gig PC800RDRAM > > > SB Audigy EX Plantinum. > > > > > > > > > > > >In fear of making of your ego even bigger, you were spot on! Thanks a lot
Tom :-)
I did a complete uninstall, booted in VGA mode and re-installed from
scratch. Now everything is fine.
Thanks again,
Tim
"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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different
> > builds of Windows 2000 - Advanced Server and workstation. I had the same
> > problem with both. The Workstation build was totally clean - with no
> geforce
> > tweak, riva or other utilities installed.
> >
> > Looks like these drivers might only be good for XP for the moment,though
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> Tim... > > I've seen that error....heard of it.......before. The problem is, I can't > remember the "fix" for it. But, I'm pretty sure it had to do with one of > the component files in the new drivers not "overwriting" one of the older > components....or not overwriting it properly. The fix had something to do > with using NvCleaner.....then reinstalling the new drivers. > > I always "clean" my existing drivers out.....so haven't had this problemQuoted text (18 lines)
> a long time). > > Check out Guru3D boards and I bet you this is the answer. > > TP > > > "Tim Epstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:hIKb9.3153$[email hidden]... > > Hi, > > > > After installing 40.41 drivers under Windows 2000, I can't access Nvidia > > properties in display settings. error is > > > > An error occuured while Windows was working with the Control Panel file > > C:\WINNT\System32\desk.cpl > > > > To confirm this is a driver problem, I installed the driver on 2Quoted text (25 lines)
> > they are listed as being XP/2000 compatibile > > > > TIm > > > > > > > > > > "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, even > switching > > > between screens was horribly > > > slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. > > > > > > P4 2.53 > > > Ti4600 > > > 120gig HD > > > 1gig PC800RDRAM > > > SB Audigy EX Plantinum. > > > > > > > > > > > >Lol....don't worry about "inflating my ego".....I do that all by myself
every day......lol.... Then, I go run Darlington in N2K2.....and blow it
all to hell! ....lol.....
Glad my failing memory works some times....and helped you out.
TP
"Tim Epstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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can't
> > remember the "fix" for it. But, I'm pretty sure it had to do with oneof
> > the component files in the new drivers not "overwriting" one of theolder
> > components....or not overwriting it properly. The fix had something todo
Nvidia
> > > properties in display settings. error is
> > >
> > > An error occuured while Windows was working with the Control Panelfile
> > > C:\WINNT\System32\desk.cpl
> > >
> > > To confirm this is a driver problem, I installed the driver on 2
> different
> > > builds of Windows 2000 - Advanced Server and workstation. I had thesame
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> In fear of making of your ego even bigger, you were spot on! Thanks a lot > Tom :-) > > I did a complete uninstall, booted in VGA mode and re-installed from > scratch. Now everything is fine. > > Thanks again, > Tim > > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:95Lb9.129974$aA.30028@sccrnsc02... > > Tim... > > > > I've seen that error....heard of it.......before. The problem is, IQuoted text (16 lines)
> > with using NvCleaner.....then reinstalling the new drivers. > > > > I always "clean" my existing drivers out.....so haven't had this problem > (in > > a long time). > > > > Check out Guru3D boards and I bet you this is the answer. > > > > TP > > > > > > "Tim Epstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:hIKb9.3153$[email hidden]... > > > Hi, > > > > > > After installing 40.41 drivers under Windows 2000, I can't accessQuoted text (33 lines)
> > > problem with both. The Workstation build was totally clean - with no > > geforce > > > tweak, riva or other utilities installed. > > > > > > Looks like these drivers might only be good for XP for the moment, > though > > > they are listed as being XP/2000 compatibile > > > > > > TIm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, even > > switching > > > > between screens was horribly > > > > slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. > > > > > > > > P4 2.53 > > > > Ti4600 > > > > 120gig HD > > > > 1gig PC800RDRAM > > > > SB Audigy EX Plantinum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I experienced 40.41 makes occasional flash with N2002 and GPL...
It's really disturbing so cannot concentrate. =(
Looks like no one suffering these trouble...?
I'll go back to 30.XX drivers.
Athlon Thunderbird 1.4G
Abit KT7A
Crucial PC133 256 x2
Leadtek A250 GeForce4 Ti4600 128MB
Creative SB Audigy
Intel PRO/100+ Management Adapter
Logitech Momo Force
MS Windows XP Pro
Y. Minami
"Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, even switching > between screens was horribly > slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. > > P4 2.53 > Ti4600 > 120gig HD > 1gig PC800RDRAM > SB Audigy EX Plantinum. > >Tom has never installed the Memorex Wireless Mouse Drivers :)
No uninstaller. No real way to track them down.
We spent 2 days on a users laptop destroyed by these things once.
-Larry
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> Morris... > > With a P4 platform....you have an Intel Northbridge chipset....(or the > equivalent of). Many settings for Intel chipsets are not "optimized" by > default on the Nv properties tabs. Your installation of the new drivers > would have reset all those to their defaults! Perhaps you don't remember > setting them properly at one time? I don't know.....but the new NvQuoted text (9 lines)
> wouldn't cause your system to just slow to a crawl......drivers don't do > that. Incorrect settings or incompatible settings will. > > TP > > > "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, evenQuoted text (12 lines)
> > between screens was horribly > > slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. > > > > P4 2.53 > > Ti4600 > > 120gig HD > > 1gig PC800RDRAM > > SB Audigy EX Plantinum. > > > > > >I hadn't noticed before, but my download is explicitly labeled as XP.
-Larry
"Tim Epstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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geforce
switching
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> Hi, > > After installing 40.41 drivers under Windows 2000, I can't access Nvidia > properties in display settings. error is > > An error occuured while Windows was working with the Control Panel file > C:\WINNT\System32\desk.cpl > > To confirm this is a driver problem, I installed the driver on 2 different > builds of Windows 2000 - Advanced Server and workstation. I had the same > problem with both. The Workstation build was totally clean - with noQuoted text (13 lines)
> tweak, riva or other utilities installed. > > Looks like these drivers might only be good for XP for the moment, though > they are listed as being XP/2000 compatibile > > TIm > > > > > "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, evenQuoted text (12 lines)
> > between screens was horribly > > slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. > > > > P4 2.53 > > Ti4600 > > 120gig HD > > 1gig PC800RDRAM > > SB Audigy EX Plantinum. > > > > > >I thought these utilities were stuck at the Win98 level. Have they been
updated ?
-Larry
"Tim Epstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Thanks Tom - I'll try the Detonator destroyer utility and post whathappens.
can't
> > remember the "fix" for it. But, I'm pretty sure it had to do with oneof
> > the component files in the new drivers not "overwriting" one of theolder
> > components....or not overwriting it properly. The fix had something todo
Nvidia
> > > properties in display settings. error is
> > >
> > > An error occuured while Windows was working with the Control Panelfile
> > > C:\WINNT\System32\desk.cpl
> > >
> > > To confirm this is a driver problem, I installed the driver on 2
> different
> > > builds of Windows 2000 - Advanced Server and workstation. I had thesame
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> > Apology for continuing mostly OT thread. > > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:95Lb9.129974$aA.30028@sccrnsc02... > > Tim... > > > > I've seen that error....heard of it.......before. The problem is, IQuoted text (16 lines)
> > with using NvCleaner.....then reinstalling the new drivers. > > > > I always "clean" my existing drivers out.....so haven't had this problem > (in > > a long time). > > > > Check out Guru3D boards and I bet you this is the answer. > > > > TP > > > > > > "Tim Epstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:hIKb9.3153$[email hidden]... > > > Hi, > > > > > > After installing 40.41 drivers under Windows 2000, I can't accessQuoted text (33 lines)
> > > problem with both. The Workstation build was totally clean - with no > > geforce > > > tweak, riva or other utilities installed. > > > > > > Looks like these drivers might only be good for XP for the moment, > though > > > they are listed as being XP/2000 compatibile > > > > > > TIm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, even > > switching > > > > between screens was horribly > > > > slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. > > > > > > > > P4 2.53 > > > > Ti4600 > > > > 120gig HD > > > > 1gig PC800RDRAM > > > > SB Audigy EX Plantinum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >If you are using OpenGL, try changine the flipping mode first. I seem to
recall that as an issue at one point.
-Larry
"Yoshihiko Minami" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I experienced 40.41 makes occasional flash with N2002 and GPL... > It's really disturbing so cannot concentrate. =( > Looks like no one suffering these trouble...? > > I'll go back to 30.XX drivers. > > > Athlon Thunderbird 1.4G > Abit KT7A > Crucial PC133 256 x2 > Leadtek A250 GeForce4 Ti4600 128MB > Creative SB Audigy > Intel PRO/100+ Management Adapter > Logitech Momo Force > MS Windows XP Pro > > > Y. Minami > > > "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, evenQuoted text (12 lines)
> > between screens was horribly > > slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. > > > > P4 2.53 > > Ti4600 > > 120gig HD > > 1gig PC800RDRAM > > SB Audigy EX Plantinum. > > > > > >Good call, Larry.
TP
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> If you are using OpenGL, try changine the flipping mode first. I seem to > recall that as an issue at one point. > > -Larry > > "Yoshihiko Minami" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:akoqto$664$[email hidden]... > > I experienced 40.41 makes occasional flash with N2002 and GPL... > > It's really disturbing so cannot concentrate. =( > > Looks like no one suffering these trouble...? > > > > I'll go back to 30.XX drivers. > > > > > > Athlon Thunderbird 1.4G > > Abit KT7A > > Crucial PC133 256 x2 > > Leadtek A250 GeForce4 Ti4600 128MB > > Creative SB Audigy > > Intel PRO/100+ Management Adapter > > Logitech Momo Force > > MS Windows XP Pro > > > > > > Y. Minami > > > > > > "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, even > switching > > > between screens was horribly > > > slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. > > > > > > P4 2.53 > > > Ti4600 > > > 120gig HD > > > 1gig PC800RDRAM > > > SB Audigy EX Plantinum. > > > > > > > > > > > >LOL! Now I have a problem :)
LFS seems to have a problem with the 40.41 drivers. I'm only getting 1/3
the frame rates I was getting, and the rear-view mirror is all corrupted and
garbaged.
Damn...
-Larry
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> Good call, Larry. > > TP > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:eqTb9.29003$[email hidden]... > > If you are using OpenGL, try changine the flipping mode first. I seemQuoted text (46 lines)
> > recall that as an issue at one point. > > > > -Larry > > > > "Yoshihiko Minami" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:akoqto$664$[email hidden]... > > > I experienced 40.41 makes occasional flash with N2002 and GPL... > > > It's really disturbing so cannot concentrate. =( > > > Looks like no one suffering these trouble...? > > > > > > I'll go back to 30.XX drivers. > > > > > > > > > Athlon Thunderbird 1.4G > > > Abit KT7A > > > Crucial PC133 256 x2 > > > Leadtek A250 GeForce4 Ti4600 128MB > > > Creative SB Audigy > > > Intel PRO/100+ Management Adapter > > > Logitech Momo Force > > > MS Windows XP Pro > > > > > > > > > Y. Minami > > > > > > > > > "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > I tried the new drivers and they slowed NR2002 to a crawl, even > > switching > > > > between screens was horribly > > > > slow, back to the 30.82's. Weird. > > > > > > > > P4 2.53 > > > > Ti4600 > > > > 120gig HD > > > > 1gig PC800RDRAM > > > > SB Audigy EX Plantinum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> LOL! Now I have a problem :)
>
> LFS seems to have a problem with the 40.41 drivers. I'm only getting 1/3
> the frame rates I was getting, and the rear-view mirror is all corruptedand
> garbaged.
>
> Damn...
>
> -Larry The 40's seem pointed ONLY for XP at this time...what os do you have??
dave henrie
I'm glad you added the "P" to avoid any misunderstading.
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > builds of Windows 2000 - Advanced Server and workstation. I had the same
> > problem with both. The Workstation build was totally clean - with no
> geforce
> > tweak, riva or other utilities installed.
> >
> > Looks like these drivers might only be good for XP for the moment,though


































