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Lockups Yes and No.

9 posts by 4 people · 31 Aug 2002 03:16 UTC - 01 Sep 2002 05:30 UTC

Dave Henrie 31 Aug 2002 03:16 UTC#100172
I can get F1 2k1 to run for hours. No problems. But N2k2 seems to want to hang after just a few minutes tops. I have reset the bios and lost about 10 fps but still very good at about 90fps. Even with that, I get lockups with N2k2. Then after rebooting, I can load and run F1 2k1 for many many laps and nary a hiccup or lockup. CPU temps are within my usual operating limits...49C to 54C. I even uninstalled the daemon tools, and all the nocd stuff to check that...still locks. But other titles...NO PROBLEM!!!! (once again I'm fighting a problem for the title I use less than a few others...) dave henrie
?????? Dave... Include your system specs with each "it don't work" post......I'm not the only one probably not willing to go through a Google ras search....to see what mobo you have, or what operating system, what video card...and what video card driver's you are currently using, every time you post your problems. Just trying to give you a "hint" why you don't get more help. What are you running N2K2 in (what res, what renderer) and have you made sure you don't have anisotropic filtering turned on (see my spec sheet for where "both" places are that you must turn it off). Have you done your swap file.....or does Windows still have it? Fast Writes....and SBA (Side Band Addressing)....are they both turned off (see my spec sheets)? Then....assuming for the briefest of moments....lol.....that you have everything mentioned above set right. Here's what to try: Take the side of your CPU....get a floor fan.....blow cold air in your case and go run N2K2. If it don't lock up....then your problem is a "heat problem" and its probably the video card that's overheating (could be the CPU, though). TP "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UxWb9.58784$[email hidden]... > I can get F1 2k1 to run for hours. No problems. But N2k2 seems to > want to hang after just a few minutes tops. I have reset the bios andlost > about 10 fps but still very good at about 90fps. Even with that, I get > lockups with N2k2. Then after rebooting, I can load and run F1 2k1 formany > many laps and nary a hiccup or lockup. CPU temps are within my usual > operating limits...49C to 54C. > I even uninstalled the daemon tools, and all the nocd stuff tocheck > that...still locks. But other titles...NO PROBLEM!!!! (once again I'm > fighting a problem for the title I use less than a few others...) > dave henrie > >
Dave... I had an afterthought. Didn't you say you had updated the BIOS on your mobo? If so, set the BIOS "Exactly" like my spec sheet says, and don't change it back if your system locks up. Those settings are regular and normal......and if any of them were causing lockups....it would be because you have something set incorrectly somewhere else. Okay? TP "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:InXb9.247433$983.528234@rwcrnsc53...
Quoted text (13 lines)> ?????? > > Dave... > > Include your system specs with each "it don't work" post......I'm not the > only one probably not willing to go through a Google ras search....to see > what mobo you have, or what operating system, what video card...and what > video card driver's you are currently using, every time you post your > problems. Just trying to give you a "hint" why you don't get more help. > > What are you running N2K2 in (what res, what renderer) and have you made > sure you don't have anisotropic filtering turned on (see my spec sheet for > where "both" places are that you must turn it off). Have you done your
swap
Quoted text (9 lines)> file.....or does Windows still have it? > > Fast Writes....and SBA (Side Band Addressing)....are they both turned off > (see my spec sheets)? > > Then....assuming for the briefest of moments....lol.....that you have > everything mentioned above set right. Here's what to try: > > Take the side of your CPU....get a floor fan.....blow cold air in your
case
Quoted text (10 lines)> and go run N2K2. If it don't lock up....then your problem is a "heat > problem" and its probably the video card that's overheating (could be the > CPU, though). > > TP > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:UxWb9.58784$[email hidden]... > > I can get F1 2k1 to run for hours. No problems. But N2k2 seems
to
Quoted text (16 lines)> > want to hang after just a few minutes tops. I have reset the bios and > lost > > about 10 fps but still very good at about 90fps. Even with that, I get > > lockups with N2k2. Then after rebooting, I can load and run F1 2k1 for > many > > many laps and nary a hiccup or lockup. CPU temps are within my usual > > operating limits...49C to 54C. > > I even uninstalled the daemon tools, and all the nocd stuff to > check > > that...still locks. But other titles...NO PROBLEM!!!! (once again I'm > > fighting a problem for the title I use less than a few others...) > > dave henrie > > > > > >
>Fast Writes....and SBA (Side Band Addressing)....are they both turned off >(see my spec sheets)? Where is your guide posted Tom? I had it at one point but can't find it now. Thanks, Dan
Set your AGP Aperture to 64MB in the BIOS. -Larry "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UxWb9.58784$[email hidden]... > I can get F1 2k1 to run for hours. No problems. But N2k2 seems to > want to hang after just a few minutes tops. I have reset the bios andlost > about 10 fps but still very good at about 90fps. Even with that, I get > lockups with N2k2. Then after rebooting, I can load and run F1 2k1 formany > many laps and nary a hiccup or lockup. CPU temps are within my usual > operating limits...49C to 54C. > I even uninstalled the daemon tools, and all the nocd stuff tocheck > that...still locks. But other titles...NO PROBLEM!!!! (once again I'm > fighting a problem for the title I use less than a few others...) > dave henrie > >
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b6Yb9.29189$[email hidden]... > Set your AGP Aperture to 64MB in the BIOS. > > -Larry Well It always pays to sit down and chew on a subject for a while. I was comparing N2k2 to F1 2k1. Well that was NOT a good comparo. F1 is D3d and N2k2 was running in Open GL. A quick check of Tom's tweek guide showed OPENGL should have x2 AGP not x4. Just ran a half hour in n2k2, stopping for tires etc and had zero hiccups this time. sometimes the SMALLEST thingie can really mess up your day. Now I get to repeat most of what I've already done today and start resetting the rest of the bios to once again match TP's tweek guide. Of course I'll let y'all know if I BREAK it again. dave henrie
Dave... As a reminder to you....and to others who download that "tweaks" Excel sheet........those are settings that I use for my system(s). While many of them would be universal, some would not be. The "divergence" would increase if you had an Intel platform (vs. an AMD platform). You should take those tweaks and settings only as a guideline and be responsible for knowing which of them (if any) might not be applicable for your system. With regard to the BIOS settings.....those are what I would consider "conservative" but normal settings.....they've been recommended by many, for quite some time. With regard to the AGP port setting, I've never found 4X AGP to produce more than a few additional FPS or 3DMrk scores of maybe 2 or 3% higher....but it *always* introduces a degree of instability (on AMD platforms that I've built). So, by default.....I now pretty much always keep it at 2X AGP. Glad to hear you're getting your system probs under control. TP "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:klZb9.300813$UU1.54116@sccrnsc03...
Quoted text (9 lines)> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b6Yb9.29189$[email hidden]... > > Set your AGP Aperture to 64MB in the BIOS. > > > > -Larry > > Well It always pays to sit down and chew on a subject for a while. I > was comparing N2k2 to F1 2k1. Well that was NOT a good comparo. F1 is
D3d > and N2k2 was running in Open GL. A quick check of Tom's tweek guideshowed
Quoted text (9 lines)> OPENGL should have x2 AGP not x4. Just ran a half hour in n2k2, stopping > for tires etc and had zero hiccups this time. sometimes the SMALLEST > thingie can really mess up your day. > Now I get to repeat most of what I've already done today and start > resetting the rest of the bios to once again match TP's tweek guide. > Of course I'll let y'all know if I BREAK it again. > dave henrie > >
> Glad to hear you're getting your system probs under control. > > TP Just ran a 10% weekend at Bristol night. 10 minute practice: ran some laps, sat in the pits and then ran some more. Qaulifying. Then a full warmup where I sat not in the pits but the setup screen with the replay window showing the field. Joined near the end of the session. Then a 50 lap race with 1 caution, lapping cars rubbing and no lockups in opengl. I DID reset my vidcard to the default speed and while I lost some fps, I seem to have gained a stable opengl system again. Now I'll push things a little bit to gain a few fps back. And hopefully sit on that. dave henrie
Good going, Dave! Yeah! TP "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:arhc9.258759$983.529007@rwcrnsc53...
Quoted text (10 lines)> > Glad to hear you're getting your system probs under control. > > > > TP > > Just ran a 10% weekend at Bristol night. 10 minute practice: ran some > laps, sat in the pits and then ran some more. Qaulifying. Then a full > warmup where I sat not in the pits but the setup screen with the replay > window showing the field. Joined near the end of the session. Then a 50 > lap race with 1 caution, lapping cars rubbing and no lockups in opengl. I > DID reset my vidcard to the default speed and while I lost some fps, I
seem > to have gained a stable opengl system again. > Now I'll push things a little bit to gain a few fps back. Andhopefully > sit on that. > dave henrie > >

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