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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-I really need to know how good this wheel is. I am going to buy either this +ADw-br+AD4- of the Logitech. I am concerned about the logitech's pedals, and the idea of +ADw-br+AD4- Paddles AND stick is very appealling. But at the same time I keep reading +ADw-br+AD4- that the Logitech has better FF. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I am not interested in the Act Labs because of the paddles and II also don't +ADw-br+AD4- know where to get one in England. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Thanks +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-David Cane +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-I was talking to a guy that's really into cars but he said he had the +ADw-br+AD4- logitech and the force was too weak.... he said he was taking it back..... +ADw-br+AD4- now that i think of it though i never asked if he installed the new +ADw-br+AD4- drivers... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I really need to know how good this wheel is. I am going to buy either this +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-of the Logitech. I am concerned about the logitech's pedals, and the idea +ADw-br+AD4- of +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Paddles AND stick is very appealling. But at the same time I keep reading +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-that the Logitech has better FF. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-I am not interested in the Act Labs because of the paddles and II also +ADw-br+AD4- don't +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-know where to get one in England. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Thanks +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-David Cane +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- I really need to know how good this wheel is. I am going to buy either this +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- of the Logitech. I am concerned about the logitech's pedals, and the idea of +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Paddles AND stick is very appealling. But at the same time I keep reading +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- that the Logitech has better FF. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- I am not interested in the Act Labs because of the paddles and II also don't +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- know where to get one in England. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Thanks +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- David Cane +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I have. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Don't know if I will be much help in your decision-making but I like +ADw-br+AD4- this product. +ADw-br+AD4- The construction and installation are very good. +ADw-br+AD4- However, I only run GPL which does not support FF. +ADw-br+AD4- With FF turned on the wheel movement simulates the screen shot very +ADw-br+AD4- closely. There is a small, +- 5deg, +ACY-quot+ADs-loose+ACY-quot+ADs- feeling at TDC but the +ADw-br+AD4- screen wheel is moving so I guess my input is being translated +ADw-br+AD4- correctly, just feels a bit disconnected. +ADw-br+AD4- With FF turned off it feels too sloppy. +ADw-br+AD4- Pedals can be adjusted for firmness, gearshift can be paddles or stick +ADw-br+AD4- plus there are two buttons on the wheel hub. +ADw-br+AD4- I bought mine at Fry's electronics for +ACQ-179.00 +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Hope this helps +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-David Morton +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Daniel Lichtenberg+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Wed, 30 Dec 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:28:14 GMT, +ACY-quot+ADs-David Cane+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I really need to know how good this wheel is. I am going to buy either this +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-of the Logitech. I am concerned about the logitech's pedals, and the idea of +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Paddles AND stick is very appealling. But at the same time I keep reading +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-that the Logitech has better FF. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I agree with David Morton. I can only say it has very good FF, but I +ADw-br+AD4- cannot compare it to Logitech FF, since I've never even touched one. +ADw-br+AD4- The stick shifter is really cool, too. Installation is easy, and so +ADw-br+AD4- far I haven't had any problems, except NFS3 which lacks 2 of 5 FF +ADw-br+AD4- effects (engine +ACY-amp+ADs- road effects, don't know why). +ADw-br+AD4- I can only recommend this wheel, so buy it :) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-HTH +ADw-br+AD4- Daniel +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Daniel Lichtenberger, Vienna/Austria +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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