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Fri, 07 Jan 2022 02:59:01 --+AD4APA-h1 class+AD0AIg-linkback+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIg-https://rec-autos-simulators.net/+ACIAPg-rec.autos.simulators+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h1+AD4- +ADw-h2 class+AD0AIg-topic-title+ACIAPg-NASCAR santions MP NASCAR league+ADw-/h2+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar top+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p1+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile1+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-David Spark+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content1+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p1+ACIAPg-NASCAR santions MP NASCAR league+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-David Spark+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 19 May 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-If you didn't get on the system yesterday, there's some exciting news. +ADw-br+AD4- NASCAR has sanctioned a new divison for Papyrus MP NASCAR. The press +ADw-br+AD4- release was a little short on details, but perhaps the Papyrus guys will be +ADw-br+AD4- able to tell us more soon. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Dave +ACY-quot+ADs-davids+ACY-quot+ADs- Sparks +ADw-br+AD4- Sequoia Motorsports +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p2+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile2+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Ed Marti+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content2+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p2+ACIAPg-NASCAR santions MP NASCAR league+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Ed Marti+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Tue, 21 May 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- If you didn't get on the system yesterday, there's some exciting news. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- NASCAR has sanctioned a new divison for Papyrus MP NASCAR. The press +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- release was a little short on details, but perhaps the Papyrus guys will be +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- able to tell us more soon. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Dave +ACY-quot+ADs-davids+ACY-quot+ADs- Sparks +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Sequoia Motorsports +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-It's true... NASCAR has sanctioned Papyrus/Sierra as the 13th NASCAR division - the NASCAR +ADw-br+AD4- Racing League. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Based on NASCAR Racing 2 -- coming out this Christmas, fans will be able to +ADw-br+AD4- participate in fully sanctioned NASCAR events online. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Hawaii is a prototype for NRL... it will +ADw-br+AD4- not become NRL, however. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The purpose of Hawaii is to get as much feedback as possible from the +ADw-br+AD4- fans so we can make NRL the ultimate experience. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Top priorities: playability issues in NCR 1.x +ADw-br+AD4- online so we can make NCR 2/NRL awesome online+ADs- skill levels+ADs- point systems (coming soon to a +ADw-br+AD4- Hawaii system near you)+ADs- and a bunch of other things that we still can't talk about+ACE- :-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-What will NRL have +ACY-amp+ADs- what won't it have? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Well, like I said, Hawaii is a prototype for NRL. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The +ADw-br+AD4- things you find on Hawaii will make their way into NRL... plus A LOT more. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I'm sure the number +ADw-br+AD4- 1 question is -- ya, like local access numbers, Ed??? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-That's what we intend to do. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-We're still +ADw-br+AD4- not ready to announce everything yet, though. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-You'll still find pickup races +ACY-amp+ADs- user created +ADw-br+AD4- series in NRL, but you'll also find fully sanctioned NASCAR Racing League series -- officiated +ACY-amp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- sanctioned by NASCAR/NRL. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Instead of core dumping here, I encourage everyone to take a look at the press release +ADw-br+AD4- (available on the NASCAR Online site (www.nascar.com) and the Sierra site (www.sierra.com). For +ADw-br+AD4- obvious reasons, things are getting a lot busier on this end of the wire, so my time on r.a.s. +ADw-br+AD4- to answer questions might be limited, but I'll do my best. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Finally, I know it's been suggested up here a number of times, and now might be the time for a +ADw-br+AD4- new newsgroup to cover Hawaii +ACY-amp+ADs- NRL. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-This is something that we (Papyrus/Sierra) can not do +ADw-br+AD4- ourselves nor officially support, but I think the volume of postings might justify a new group. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I leave it up to someone(s) out there to make the call. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Ed Martin +ADw-br+AD4- Papyrus Design Group +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p3+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile3+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Mark McCue+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content3+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p3+ACIAPg-NASCAR santions MP NASCAR league+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Mark McCue+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Tue, 21 May 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- It should IMHO be a subgroup of this, such as +ADw-br+AD4- rec.autos.simulators.multiplayer(.nrl) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJA-0.02, and it's all yours for free. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p4+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile4+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Hen+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content4+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p4+ACIAPg-NASCAR santions MP NASCAR league+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Hen+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Wed, 22 May 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +AFs-snip+AF0- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAXgBeAF4AXgBeAF4AXgBeAF4AXgBeAF4AXgBeAF4AXgBeAF4AXgBeAF4AXgBeAF4AXgBeAF4AXg- +ADw-br+AD4- In Europe too?+ACE-? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-:-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Henrikki (Hena) Hakkanen +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Tel. +358-(9)0-345 5538 +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- -------------------------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4- Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are mine and does not +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- necessarily reflect those of my employer+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p5+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile5+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Jeff Haa+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content5+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p5+ACIAPg-NASCAR santions MP NASCAR league+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Jeff Haa+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 23 May 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Top priorities: playability issues in NCR 1.x +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Ed, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Please don't forget the stand-alone play. The AI needs work for the +ADw-br+AD4- computer cars. On-line is nice +ACY-nbsp+ADs-but not available all the time. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Thanks, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Jeff Haas +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p6+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile6+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Frank Perreau+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content6+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p6+ACIAPg-NASCAR santions MP NASCAR league+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Frank Perreau+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 25 May 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Good nesw about NASCAR sanctioning snipped +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Ed, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Now that we have official NASCAR sanctioning and it is my understanding that +ADw-br+AD4- Sierra's exclusive rights to the Daytona Track for the Daytona 500 game expire +ADw-br+AD4- next year, does this mean we may see the Daytona track in both NASCAR 2 and +ADw-br+AD4- Daytona 500? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4---- Frank --- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p7+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile7+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Frank Perreau+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content7+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p7+ACIAPg-NASCAR santions MP NASCAR league+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Frank Perreau+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 25 May 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Good nesw about NASCAR sanctioning snipped +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Ed, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Now that we have official NASCAR sanctioning and it is my understanding that +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Sierra's exclusive rights to the Daytona Track for the Daytona 500 game expire +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-next year, does this mean we may see the Daytona track in both NASCAR 2 and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Daytona 500? +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs---- Frank --- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Realizing I must have be drunk or something yes, Sega owns Daytona 500. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-So now +ADw-br+AD4- that I have that ouot of the way ... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I understand that this is the last year of the licensing agreement between Sega +ADw-br+AD4- and NASCAR. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Have there been any signs that NASCAR would transfer this license +ADw-br+AD4- over to Sierra for the new online league that THEY are sanctioning? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4---- Frank --- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p8+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile8+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Ed Mart+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content8+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p8+ACIAPg-NASCAR santions MP NASCAR league+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Ed Mart+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 25 May 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Realizing I must have be drunk or something yes, Sega owns Daytona 500. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-So now +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-that I have that ouot of the way ... +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I understand that this is the last year of the licensing agreement between Sega +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-and NASCAR. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Have there been any signs that NASCAR would transfer this license +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-over to Sierra for the new online league that THEY are sanctioning? +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs---- Frank --- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Sega's exclusive license to the Daytona USA mark goes beyond the end +ADw-br+AD4- of calendar 1996. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-That mark is owned by International Speedway Corp., +ADw-br+AD4- not NASCAR. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Obviously, we would be interested in trying to get +ADw-br+AD4- Daytona into our products, but it is up to ISC +ACY-amp+ADs- Sega at this point as +ADw-br+AD4- to whether the exclusive licensing agreement will be extended. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Ed Martin +ADw-br+AD4- Producer, Series Director +ADw-br+AD4- NADCAR Racing League +ADw-br+AD4- Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p9+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile9+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Pete Resto+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content9+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p9+ACIAPg-NASCAR santions MP NASCAR league+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Pete Resto+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 25 May 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Ed Martin +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Producer, Series Director +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-lt+ADs----------------- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- NADCAR Racing League +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Ed, a promotion? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I guess, I should be careful not to offend you+ACE-:-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Pete +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p10+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile10+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Whatbra+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content10+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p10+ACIAPg-NASCAR santions MP NASCAR league+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Whatbra+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Mon, 27 May 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-p+AD4- You must mean Daytona USA, right? The Daytona 500 is owned by Nascar. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p11+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile11+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Frank Perreau+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content11+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p11+ACIAPg-NASCAR santions MP NASCAR league+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Frank Perreau+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Tue, 28 May 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Realizing I must have be drunk or something yes, Sega owns Daytona 500. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-So +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-now +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-that I have that ouot of the way ... +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-You must mean Daytona USA, right? The Daytona 500 is owned by Nascar. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-No, the Daytona track is owned by ISC. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Because ISC own it they can issue +ADw-br+AD4- licensing rights to companies that want to use facimiles of the track, logo +ADw-br+AD4- etc., on towels, in simulators, whatever. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Daytona USA is not owned by NASCAR. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It is the name of the Sega racing game. +ADw-br+AD4- ISC sold Sega licensing rights to the Daytona name and track so that Sega could +ADw-br+AD4- use both in their racing game. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I think the confusion here is that ISC and NASCAR are both owned by Bill France. +ADw-br+AD4- They are 2 separate entities however. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4---- Frank --- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p12+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile12+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Frank Perreau+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content12+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p12+ACIAPg-NASCAR santions MP NASCAR league+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Frank Perreau+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Tue, 28 May 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Realizing I must have be drunk or something yes, Sega owns Daytona 500. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-So +ADw-br+AD4- now +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-that I have that ouot of the way ... +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-I understand that this is the last year of the licensing agreement between +ADw-br+AD4- Sega +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-and NASCAR. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Have there been any signs that NASCAR would transfer this +ADw-br+AD4- license +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-over to Sierra for the new online league that THEY are sanctioning? +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs---- Frank --- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Sega's exclusive license to the Daytona USA mark goes beyond the end +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-of calendar 1996. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-That mark is owned by International Speedway Corp., +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-not NASCAR. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Obviously, we would be interested in trying to get +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Daytona into our products, but it is up to ISC +ACY-amp+ADs- Sega at this point as +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-to whether the exclusive licensing agreement will be extended. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Ed Martin +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Producer, Series Director +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-NADCAR Racing League +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Considering that Bill France owns both ISC and NASCAR I think we have a pretty +ADw-br+AD4- good chance to get the licensing rights to Daytona, if we plead our case. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-IMHO +ADw-br+AD4- NASCAR has more to gain with MP than they will with Sega machines sitting in the +ADw-br+AD4- mall. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If you need someone to go to Daytona with you to plead to Bill let me +ADw-br+AD4- know. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I'll be happy to go. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Heck, Bill and I share the same birthday+ACE- +ACY-lt+ADs-VBG+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-By the way Ed, what does NADCAR stand for? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I've read all the press releases but +ADw-br+AD4- don't remember seeing that term before. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Then again, I do have a bad memory. +ACY-lt+ADs-G+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4---- Frank --- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p13+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile13+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Ed Mart+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content13+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p13+ACIAPg-NASCAR santions MP NASCAR league+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Ed Mart+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Tue, 28 May 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Considering that Bill France owns both ISC and NASCAR I think we have a pretty +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-good chance to get the licensing rights to Daytona, if we plead our case. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-IMHO +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-NASCAR has more to gain with MP than they will with Sega machines sitting in the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-mall. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If you need someone to go to Daytona with you to plead to Bill let me +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-know. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I'll be happy to go. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Heck, Bill and I share the same birthday+ACE- +ACY-lt+ADs-VBG+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-By the way Ed, what does NADCAR stand for? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I've read all the press releases but +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-don't remember seeing that term before. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Then again, I do have a bad memory. +ACY-lt+ADs-G+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs---- Frank --- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-We're trying, but an agreement is an agreement. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-NASCAR +ACY-amp+ADs- ISC are very +ADw-br+AD4- honest +ACY-amp+ADs- loyal. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If Sega owns the license, then there is nothing that +ADw-br+AD4- can be done. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-BTW, that is a 2-way street. I'm sure Sega enjoys their +ADw-br+AD4- relationships with NASCAR/ISC as much as we do. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-They are really GREAT +ADw-br+AD4- people. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Sure, it would be great to have Daytona in our game, but all +ADw-br+AD4- in all, it's better to be dealing with someone as upfront as +ADw-br+AD4- NASCAR/ISC in the long term than it is to scam a single track in the +ADw-br+AD4- short term. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-As for +ACY-quot+ADs-NADCAR+ACY-quot+ADs- that stood for +ACY-quot+ADs-Ed didn't proof-read that note before +ADw-br+AD4- he hit the send button+ACY-quot+ADs-. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It's a rather obscure acronym. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-:-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-As you can see, I fixed it. +ADw-br+AD4- Ed Martin +ADw-br+AD4- Producer, Series Director +ADw-br+AD4- NASCAR Racing League +ADw-br+AD4- Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p14+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile14+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Frank Perreau+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content14+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p14+ACIAPg-NASCAR santions MP NASCAR league+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Frank Perreau+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Wed, 29 May 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-We're trying, but an agreement is an agreement. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-NASCAR +ACY-amp+ADs- ISC are very +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-honest +ACY-amp+ADs- loyal. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If Sega owns the license, then there is nothing that +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-can be done. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-BTW, that is a 2-way street. I'm sure Sega enjoys their +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-relationships with NASCAR/ISC as much as we do. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-They are really GREAT +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-people. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Sure, it would be great to have Daytona in our game, but all +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-in all, it's better to be dealing with someone as upfront as +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-NASCAR/ISC in the long term than it is to scam a single track in the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-short term. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-As for +ACY-quot+ADs-NADCAR+ACY-quot+ADs- that stood for +ACY-quot+ADs-Ed didn't proof-read that note before +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-he hit the send button+ACY-quot+ADs-. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It's a rather obscure acronym. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-:-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-As you can see, I fixed it. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Ed Martin +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Producer, Series Director +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-NASCAR Racing League +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I'm not saying that Papy should attempt a scam or something. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-What I am saying +ADw-br+AD4- is that when Sega's license comes up for renewal that ISC should consider a +ADw-br+AD4- non-exclusive arrangement with Sega thereby allowing Papy to obtain a license +ADw-br+AD4- also. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-There really is no reason for Sega to have an exclusive license to the +ADw-br+AD4- track considering they apply it to an arcade game and Papy applies it to a PC +ADw-br+AD4- simulator. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Two different arenas - 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