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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-It seems that the sim is forcing a 'return to center' spring on the +ADw-br+AD4- MOMO Force that I have, and with the FFB to High (heard Full turns it +ADw-br+AD4- off....) there are hardly any feedback effects at all--I am thinking I +ADw-br+AD4- have something set up incorrectly. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Does anyone else have this? +ADw-br+AD4- Otherwise, they must have repaved Darlington... :) +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-If you have the FF on full, turn them down to High instead. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Full seems to +ADw-br+AD4- turn them off. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Also, you have to turn on the +ACY-quot+ADs-Reverse Forces+ACY-quot+ADs- option. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Remember, this is an +ADw-br+AD4- ISI based SIM which means negative values for FF. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Instead of +- sliders in +ADw-br+AD4- NSR there is the +ACY-quot+ADs-Reverse Forces+ACY-quot+ADs- option. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--Larry +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Larry, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Thanks for the reply. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Yes, I had all the customary MOMO / ISI settings +ADw-br+AD4- done--FF reversed, set to high, etc. and am very surprised at the +ADw-br+AD4- centering spring being enabled in the wheel as soon as I hit the track. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I have it off in Windows control panel. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It is very un--simlike in +ADw-br+AD4- feel. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-In fact, it feels very much like the Chase for the Cup +ADw-br+AD4- physics--touchy steering (at 13:1 or 32:1 steering ratio--feeling is +ADw-br+AD4- the same) and literally no feedback through the wheel--just a bit of +ADw-br+AD4- resistance due to the centering spring and thats it. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-And the centering +ADw-br+AD4- spring is very unnatural feeling. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Honestly, I preferred the feedback +ADw-br+AD4- in the wheel that Thunder 2004 gave over this. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I cannot believe these +ADw-br+AD4- are the ultra +ACoAKgAq- 'sim' physics EA has spoken of--something is +ADw-br+AD4- definitely not right here. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Also, and I have no idea what is up with this--the first time I ran the +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- ran great. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Later on in the night, at Daytona, my FPS nearly was cut in +ADw-br+AD4- half and hovered right around the 30 mark. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It appeared to be slowing +ADw-br+AD4- down the more I played it. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I reran CUBE for the heck of it and now it +ADw-br+AD4- gives 35 M/sec which is very difficult to understand. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Aside from the 'arcade' handling (I am still assuming setup issue +ADw-br+AD4- here), the graphics are gorgeous for the tracks and the dynamic weather +ADw-br+AD4- changes are very well done, in my opinion. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I see a huge amount of +ADw-br+AD4- improvement here, but the driving model, for whatever reason, is +ADw-br+AD4- behaving exactly like my Chase for the Cup XBOX game at the moment. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-And unlike all other ISI sims and mods for them--there are absolutely +ADw-br+AD4- no lines in the +ACo-.plr file for the controller options--this abscence is +ADw-br+AD4- interesting..... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Thanks again for the reply, Larry+ACEAIQ- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Something's wrong then. I had ff set to full and had almost no feedback. Set +ADw-br+AD4- it to high and now the ff is excellent. Don't know how to solve your problem +ADw-br+AD4- though, but I can tell you that you are definitely not experiencing the true +ADw-br+AD4- ff effects. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- David G Fisher +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPgAm-gt+ADs- Larry, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Thanks for the reply. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Yes, I had all the customary MOMO / ISI settings +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- done--FF reversed, set to high, etc. and am very surprised at the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- centering spring being enabled in the wheel as soon as I hit the track. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I have it off in Windows control panel. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It is very un--simlike in +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- feel. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-In fact, it feels very much like the Chase for the Cup +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- physics--touchy steering (at 13:1 or 32:1 steering ratio--feeling is +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- the same) and literally no feedback through the wheel--just a bit of +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- resistance due to the centering spring and thats it. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-And the centering +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- spring is very unnatural feeling. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Honestly, I preferred the feedback +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- in the wheel that Thunder 2004 gave over this. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I cannot believe these +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- are the ultra +ACoAKgAq- 'sim' physics EA has spoken of--something is +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- definitely not right here. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Also, and I have no idea what is up with this--the first time I ran the +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- ran great. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Later on in the night, at Daytona, my FPS nearly was cut in +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- half and hovered right around the 30 mark. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It appeared to be slowing +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- down the more I played it. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I reran CUBE for the heck of it and now it +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- gives 35 M/sec which is very difficult to understand. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Aside from the 'arcade' handling (I am still assuming setup issue +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- here), the graphics are gorgeous for the tracks and the dynamic weather +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- changes are very well done, in my opinion. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I see a huge amount of +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- improvement here, but the driving model, for whatever reason, is +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- behaving exactly like my Chase for the Cup XBOX game at the moment. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- And unlike all other ISI sims and mods for them--there are absolutely +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- no lines in the +ACo-.plr file for the controller options--this abscence is +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- interesting..... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Thanks again for the reply, Larry+ACEAIQ- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p7+ACIAPg-NSR - Let the issues begin :)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-It is strange--and the centering spring 'forcing' is very wrong. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I +ADw-br+AD4- have the feedback set to High now (and even at Full, the 'resistance' +ADw-br+AD4- is there, but no feedback) Turning it to medium the wheel is absolutely +ADw-br+AD4- not returning to center (like all other sims I have played) but the FFB +ADw-br+AD4- is non existent. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I am still trying to work out the kinks here, but +ADw-br+AD4- this is a bit disappointing as I know this is not the true physics of +ADw-br+AD4- the thing. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-But the first time I hit the track--you can see the stick +ADw-br+AD4- 'jiggle' a bit as the center spring command is sent to it by the sim. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-What kind of feedback are you getting David? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Is it simply a +ADw-br+AD4- 'resistance to moving the wheel' like I have, or is it actually giving +ADw-br+AD4- you some bumps? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I took it out to Darlington and the track and steering +ADw-br+AD4- were so smooth as to be hugely unbelievable. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I am not sure if they had +ADw-br+AD4- time to 'bump model' the tracks, but even contact with other objects +ADw-br+AD4- give zero feedback. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I have used two ways to set the wheel--One with the default Logitech +ADw-br+AD4- setup, but this does not work as it gives all the wrong axis for +ADw-br+AD4- braking and steering, so I am forced to customize it by remapping all +ADw-br+AD4- the buttons and shifter. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I am going to keep looking for a solution +ADw-br+AD4- because if this is the way it is, I have to say it's the best port of a +ADw-br+AD4- console game yet--but no where near what Papyrus did 3 years ago, and +ADw-br+AD4- ISI did last year. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-This is Tiburons baby here, and I sure hope what I +ADw-br+AD4- am seeing is a config issue, or something that can be patched. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-There +ADw-br+AD4- was a mention in the readme of sometimes controllers not being +ADw-br+AD4- recognized, so you just had to reset the wheel in the sim. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Even this +ADw-br+AD4- does not work. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Huge disappointment with the driving model, the rest of the sim I am +ADw-br+AD4- drooling over :) +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p8+ACIAPg-NSR - Let the issues begin :)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-fredrickso+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 20 Feb 2005 00:45:25+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- It is strange--and the centering spring 'forcing' is very wrong. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- have the feedback set to High now (and even at Full, the 'resistance' +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- is there, but no feedback) Turning it to medium the wheel is absolutely +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- not returning to center (like all other sims I have played) but the FFB +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- is non existent. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I am still trying to work out the kinks here, but +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- this is a bit disappointing as I know this is not the true physics of +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- the thing. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-But the first time I hit the track--you can see the stick +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- 'jiggle' a bit as the center spring command is sent to it by the sim. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-is it set to +ACY-quot+ADs-wheel+ACY-quot+ADs- ? +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p9+ACIAPg-NSR - Let the issues begin :)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Smokin+AF8-Bo+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:11:06+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-fredrickson, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Yes, it is set to wheel. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I made a typo in my post in reference to the +ADw-br+AD4- 'stick jiggle' I meant that the wheel would give a jitter as the +ADw-br+AD4- driving portion of the sim is entered. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I am going to reinstall the +ADw-br+AD4- demo and give it a look as I do not remember having this issue with the +ADw-br+AD4- demo. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Even though the demo physics are reported as being not +ADw-br+AD4- finalized, I am more interested in seeing how the wheel behaves there. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p10+ACIAPg-NSR - Let the issues begin :)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Mitch+AF8APA-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:19:41+ADw-/p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- It is strange--and the centering spring 'forcing' is very wrong. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- have the feedback set to High now (and even at Full, the 'resistance' +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- is there, but no feedback) Turning it to medium the wheel is absolutely +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- not returning to center (like all other sims I have played) but the FFB +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- is non existent. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I am still trying to work out the kinks here, but +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- this is a bit disappointing as I know this is not the true physics of +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- the thing. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-But the first time I hit the track--you can see the stick +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- 'jiggle' a bit as the center spring command is sent to it by the sim. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- What kind of feedback are you getting David? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Is it simply a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- 'resistance to moving the wheel' like I have, or is it actually giving +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- you some bumps? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I took it out to Darlington and the track and steering +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- were so smooth as to be hugely unbelievable. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I am not sure if they had +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- time to 'bump model' the tracks, but even contact with other objects +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- give zero feedback. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- I have used two ways to set the wheel--One with the default Logitech +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- setup, but this does not work as it gives all the wrong axis for +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- braking and steering, so I am forced to customize it by remapping all +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- the buttons and shifter. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I am going to keep looking for a solution +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- because if this is the way it is, I have to say it's the best port of a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- console game yet--but no where near what Papyrus did 3 years ago, and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- ISI did last year. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-This is Tiburons baby here, and I sure hope what I +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- am seeing is a config issue, or something that can be patched. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-There +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- was a mention in the readme of sometimes controllers not being +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- recognized, so you just had to reset the wheel in the sim. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Even this +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- does not work. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Huge disappointment with the driving model, the rest of the sim I am +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- drooling over :) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Remember the Momo Racing is NOT a Momo Force. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The Momo Racing has always +ADw-br+AD4- had better FF effects, or a stonger motor +ADs-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-On my Force I feel almost nothing in NSR. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Ive tried every possible combo +ADw-br+AD4- and their just isnt hardly any FF effects coming from the track to the +ADw-br+AD4- wheel. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Everytime I run NSR I come away with more dissapointment. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-When is RFActor coming out again? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Mitch +ADw-br+AD4- -- +ADw-br+AD4- Remove +ACY-quot+ADs-nospam.+ACY-quot+ADs- to reply. +ADw-br+AD4- SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE 3.3.2a +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p11+ACIAPg-NSR - Let the issues begin :)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Smokin+AF8-Bo+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:40:29+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-I CANNOT BELIEVE IT+ACEAIQAhACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I reinstalled the demo, and the same effect +ADw-br+AD4- was noticed. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I thought about fredricksons post, and for the heck of it +ADw-br+AD4- set the output to joystick, instead of wheel.......and now I have more +ADw-br+AD4- FFB than I know what to do with+ACEAIQAh- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Unbelievable, but true in my +ADw-br+AD4- case--setting it to JOYSTICK fixed it for me--bumps, wall hits, grass +ADw-br+AD4- driving--it can all be felt now+ACEAIQAh- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-If you have wheel problems, try the JOYSTICK setting--it is a HUGE +ADw-br+AD4- difference+ACEAIQ- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I wonder if there is a bug for the MOMO Force wheel... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Thanks again for all the help, I am so glad I finally got this sorted. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p12+ACIAPg-NSR - Let the issues begin :)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Mitch+AF8APA-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:44:30+ADw-/p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- I CANNOT BELIEVE IT+ACEAIQAhACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I reinstalled the demo, and the same effect +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- If you have wheel problems, try the JOYSTICK setting--it is a HUGE +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- difference+ACEAIQ- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I wonder if there is a bug for the MOMO Force wheel... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Sounds good Bob. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Ill try as soon as I get home. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-1 issue down 25 to go +ADs-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Mitch +ADw-br+AD4- -- +ADw-br+AD4- Remove +ACY-quot+ADs-nospam.+ACY-quot+ADs- to reply. +ADw-br+AD4- SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE 3.3.2a +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-David G Fishe+ADw-/dt+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p13+ACIAPg-NSR - Let the issues begin :)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-David G Fishe+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:54:05+ADw-/p+AD4-
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I am using a Ferrari ff wheel, so I have it set to +ACY-quot+ADs-wheel+ACY-quot+ADs- and ff strength +ADw-br+AD4- to 100+ACU- . I feel bumps in the road, and collisions with a wall or another +ADw-br+AD4- car rip the wheel from side to side. Weight transfer, etc. All the things +ADw-br+AD4- you'd expect. When I had it set to full, I'm not even sure there was any +ADw-br+AD4- resistance at all. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Are you sure it's actually on? There is an on/off button you have to select +ADw-br+AD4- for the ff in the advanced controller setup screen. Maybe you missed that? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- David G Fisher +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p14+ACIAPg-NSR - Let the issues begin :)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-This is pretty much what I'm trying to deal with right now... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--Larry +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p15+ACIAPg-NSR - Let the issues begin :)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Larr+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 20 Feb 2005 02:36:34+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Guess what I'm doing next LOL +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--Larry +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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