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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-First of all, I'd like to congratulate everyone involved with GPLRank for +ADw-br+AD4- producing a terrific site. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I've got one suggestion for something I'd like to see, however: +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Since the theme of the site is comparing driver performance against a +ADw-br+AD4- benchmark, I think that wherever individual lap times are displayed, there +ADw-br+AD4- should have a +ACY-quot+ADs- benchmark+ACY-quot+ADs- column, so it's easy to see how that +ADw-br+AD4- particular lap stacks up against the benchmark for that track. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Just food for thought. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Keep up the good work+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- --------------- +ADw-br+AD4- Doug :) +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-where can I find this crazy +ACY-quot+ADs-gplrank+ACY-quot+ADs- thing? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-thanks +ADw-br+AD4- andrew +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- First of all, I'd like to congratulate everyone involved with GPLRank for +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- producing a terrific site. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- I've got one suggestion for something I'd like to see, however: +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Since the theme of the site is comparing driver performance against a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- benchmark, I think that wherever individual lap times are displayed, there +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- should have a +ACY-quot+ADs- benchmark+ACY-quot+ADs- column, so it's easy to see how that +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- particular lap stacks up against the benchmark for that track. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Just food for thought. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Keep up the good work+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- --------------- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Doug :) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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Try this: +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/index.html +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4------------ +ADw-br+AD4- Doug :) +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-thanks doug+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Andrew +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- where can I find this crazy +ACY-quot+ADs-gplrank+ACY-quot+ADs- thing? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Try this: +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/index.html +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- ----------- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Doug :) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-You can. Do a +ACY-quot+ADs-Back to Back comparison+ACY-quot+ADs- between yourself and a driver +ADw-br+AD4- named +ACY-quot+ADs-Papyrus Benchmark+ACY-quot+ADs-. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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-- +ADw-br+AD4- Don Scurlock +ADw-br+AD4- Vancouver,B.C. +ADw-br+AD4- GPLRank -1.90 +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site +ADw-br+AD4- http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/ +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Yep, the site appears to be down at the moment. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-That's definitely the correct link, though. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Link doesn't work for me, also tried a ping to 129.70.50.2 +ACY-nbsp+ADs-request timed +ADw-br+AD4- out :( +ADw-br+AD4- cya +ADw-br+AD4- Maaki +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
+AF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXw- +ADw-br+AD4- Check out my home once in a while: +ADw-br+AD4- http://home.t-online.de/home/mstiepel/ +ADw-br+AD4- ........still a lot of work to be done +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgAm-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Since it is down how about filling us in on just what it is? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-So far I +ADw-br+AD4- get the impression it ranks you by your lap times. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-the faster the lap time +ADw-br+AD4- the higher your rank. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Is there anything more to it? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Doug Olse+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 09 Jun 2000 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Well, I don't have any affiliation with the site, I'm just a wellwisher, so +ADw-br+AD4- I won't give you the full pitch, but the basic idea is that a basline time +ADw-br+AD4- is established by aggregating the lap times of the replays which shipped +ADw-br+AD4- with GPL. Drivers can upload their player.ini file, which is used to perform +ADw-br+AD4- a similar calculation, based on their fastest laps at each of the original +ADw-br+AD4- GPL tracks. This provides a 'handicap' number for each driver, expressing +ADw-br+AD4- their aggregate lap time relative to the baseline (ie a handicap of .78 +ADw-br+AD4- means you're 5.78 seconds slower than the baseline, and -5.78 means you're +ADw-br+AD4- 5.78 seconds FASTER than the baseline.) The site then uses these handicap +ADw-br+AD4- figures to rank the drivers. When you improve one of your times, upload your +ADw-br+AD4- player.ini again, and the numbers will be re-crunched for you. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPgAm-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Since it is down how about filling us in on just what it is? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-So far I +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- get the impression it ranks you by your lap times. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-the faster the lap +ADw-br+AD4- time +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- the higher your rank. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Is there anything more to it? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Yep, the site appears to be down at the moment. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-That's definitely the correct link, though. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgAm-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Ok then it's nothing more then a hot lap competition? For F1's only? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I +ADw-br+AD4- have a database that I created. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It still needs a bit of work so I gave it +ADw-br+AD4- to one individuel to finish it. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-This database could be used for a rankings +ADw-br+AD4- system as It'll keep track of a whole lot of info. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The only problem is that +ADw-br+AD4- it won't keep track of you're race average laps.. (from the replay +ADw-br+AD4- analyzer). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Speaking of.. I'll have to get ahold of the auther of that +ADw-br+AD4- aplication to see if he could impliment this :-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- The GPL Rank feature thingy that you're describing (in my opinion) +ADw-br+AD4- should be changed to +ACY-quot+ADs-GPL hot lap ranking+ACY-quot+ADs-. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Well, I don't have any affiliation with the site, I'm just a wellwisher, so +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I won't give you the full pitch, but the basic idea is that a basline time +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-is established by aggregating the lap times of the replays which shipped +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-with GPL. Drivers can upload their player.ini file, which is used to +ADw-br+AD4- perform +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-a similar calculation, based on their fastest laps at each of the original +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-GPL tracks. This provides a 'handicap' number for each driver, expressing +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-their aggregate lap time relative to the baseline (ie a handicap of .78 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-means you're 5.78 seconds slower than the baseline, and -5.78 means you're +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-5.78 seconds FASTER than the baseline.) The site then uses these handicap +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-figures to rank the drivers. When you improve one of your times, upload +ADw-br+AD4- your +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-player.ini again, and the numbers will be re-crunched for you. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Since it is down how about filling us in on just what it is? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-So far +ADw-br+AD4- I +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- get the impression it ranks you by your lap times. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-the faster the lap +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-time +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- the higher your rank. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Is there anything more to it? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Yep, the site appears to be down at the moment. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-That's definitely the correct link, though. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Hi, +ADw-br+AD4- One thing that this program needs is the ability for all players to be +ADw-br+AD4- catalogued, not just the F1 drivers.. +ADw-br+AD4- There are a +ACY-nbsp+ADs-lot of guys that run F2 or/and F3 only, so is it possible to +ADw-br+AD4- add a section for F3 +ACY-amp+ADs- F2 drivers as well ?? +ADw-br+AD4- Most F3 or F2 drivers have seperate player names made up for the F3 or F2 +ADw-br+AD4- class of racing, so it would be possible to forward these player files in +ADw-br+AD4- the same manner as the F1 player files... +ADw-br+AD4- Just a thought, wish list.. :) +ADw-br+AD4- Cheers, +ADw-br+AD4- Ron +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Hi Mike. The url is correct but the site is having problems at the moment. +ADw-br+AD4- Dougs description of the scale GPLRank uses is accurate, but GPLRank is not a +ADw-br+AD4- hotlap competition. It's a place where we can all compare ourselves, yes it +ADw-br+AD4- sounds the same, but it's not. GPLRank does so much that I'd rather not try to +ADw-br+AD4- explain it all here. Bottom line is that it's turning out to be a lot of fun +ADw-br+AD4- and a great motivator for people. So please, give the site some time to settle +ADw-br+AD4- down and come and check it out, I think you'll like it. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Don +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPgAm-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Ok then it's nothing more then a hot lap competition? For F1's only? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-have a database that I created. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It still needs a bit of work so I gave it +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-to one individuel to finish it. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-This database could be used for a rankings +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-system as It'll keep track of a whole lot of info. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The only problem is that +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-it won't keep track of you're race average laps.. (from the replay +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-analyzer). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Speaking of.. I'll have to get ahold of the auther of that +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-aplication to see if he could impliment this :-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The GPL Rank feature thingy that you're describing (in my opinion) +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-should be changed to +ACY-quot+ADs-GPL hot lap ranking+ACY-quot+ADs-. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Well, I don't have any affiliation with the site, I'm just a wellwisher, so +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-I won't give you the full pitch, but the basic idea is that a basline time +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-is established by aggregating the lap times of the replays which shipped +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-with GPL. Drivers can upload their player.ini file, which is used to +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-perform +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-a similar calculation, based on their fastest laps at each of the original +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-GPL tracks. This provides a 'handicap' number for each driver, expressing +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-their aggregate lap time relative to the baseline (ie a handicap of .78 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-means you're 5.78 seconds slower than the baseline, and -5.78 means you're +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-5.78 seconds FASTER than the baseline.) The site then uses these handicap +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-figures to rank the drivers. When you improve one of your times, upload +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-your +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-player.ini again, and the numbers will be re-crunched for you. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Since it is down how about filling us in on just what it is? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-So far +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- get the impression it ranks you by your lap times. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-the faster the lap +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-time +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- the higher your rank. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Is there anything more to it? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Yep, the site appears to be down at the moment. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-That's definitely the correct link, though. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Don Scurlock +ADw-br+AD4- Vancouver,B.C. +ADw-br+AD4- GPLRank -1.90 +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site +ADw-br+AD4- http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/ +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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Hi Ron, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-For starters, the GPLRank website has been built completely by one +ADw-br+AD4- guy, Uwe Schuerkamp of the Screamers Racing League. There are a few +ADw-br+AD4- of us helping out with ideas, suggestions, debugging and such, but +ADw-br+AD4- Uwe, who also works a full time job, is doing all the coding. +ADw-br+AD4- The feature list of GPLRank is growing like mushrooms on a damp day, +ADw-br+AD4- and it's truly impressive to me what Uwe is doing. Needed to say +ADw-br+AD4- that. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Although the original included replays, of F1 cars, is what anchors +ADw-br+AD4- the scale that GPLRank uses, the scale is open ended, and there is +ADw-br+AD4- no reason that the same scale cannot work just as well for F2 or F3 +ADw-br+AD4- cars, although the Sub Zero concept of the scale isn't going to +ADw-br+AD4- work as well. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-You can do what your requesting right now, to a degree. Creat a new +ADw-br+AD4- account for your F2/F3 driver, different name and password,(maybe add +ADw-br+AD4- F2/F3 to the end of your name) and upload the F2/F3 player.ini. Get +ADw-br+AD4- your F2/F3 racing mates to do the same. Your rank number is going to +ADw-br+AD4- look pretty bad compared to the F1's but ignore it. Use the Buddy +ADw-br+AD4- List feature to create a F2/F3 only Buddy List, and there you have +ADw-br+AD4- it. A seperate F2/F3 area could be a future feature. +ADw-br+AD4- -- +ADw-br+AD4- Don Scurlock +ADw-br+AD4- Vancouver,B.C. +ADw-br+AD4- GPLRank -1.90 +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site +ADw-br+AD4- http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/ +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Hi, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- One thing that this program needs is the ability for all players to be +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- catalogued, not just the F1 drivers.. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- There are a +ACY-nbsp+ADs-lot of guys that run F2 or/and F3 only, so is it possible to +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- add a section for F3 +ACY-amp+ADs- F2 drivers as well ?? +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Most F3 or F2 drivers have seperate player names made up for the F3 or F2 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- class of racing, so it would be possible to forward these player files in +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- the same manner as the F1 player files... +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Just a thought, wish list.. :) +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Cheers, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Ron +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-That's right+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-We can use the same benchmark times, just rope off a +ADw-br+AD4- separate section for the F2 +ACY-amp+ADs- F3 drivers. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Chuck Kandler +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- (GPL Handicap of +248-.31) +ADw-br+AD4- K+ACY-amp+ADs-S Racing +ADw-br+AD4- http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-it worked ok for me +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Andrew +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
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