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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-On Sun, 25 Jan 1998 00:11:05 -0600, +ACY-quot+ADs-Greg Cisko+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Hmm, the tracks in F1RS aren't +AF8-THAT+AF8- bad that they would make me put +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-up with that sort of driving model though... +ADs--) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-I agree. I don't know why such a big fuss is made over the tracks in +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-F1RS. To me they seem better than GP2, and fairly representive +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-of the real thing. At least it is close enough where I don't worry about +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-it :-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Well, I was making a negative point about the Psygnosis effort which +ADw-br+AD4- shouldn't be construed as a positive comment about the tracks in F1RS+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADs--) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-The tracks in F1RS which are finished are very good, but the effect is +ADw-br+AD4- spoiled by the likes of Suzuka and Hungaroring which are disaster +ADw-br+AD4- areas. Suzuka is, IMO, the best track in F1, and I was real +ADw-br+AD4- disappointed to see it so far from the mark. That said, the +AF8-shape+AF8- of +ADw-br+AD4- the track itself seems fine, so I'm guessing it was an issue of time +ADw-br+AD4- that they couldn't manage to get the elevation right. I'm still hoping +ADw-br+AD4- for a patch..... (Hello, Ubi Soft....) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Cheers+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- John +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-I would guess the requirement to release before the end of the year +ADw-br+AD4- had something to do with it...Ubisoft is not shy about extremely large +ADw-br+AD4- patchs so lets not lose hope that they will bring this up to standard. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-PAPA DOC +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand +ADw-br+AD4- Infamous +ADw-br+AD4- Pink Flamingo Pilot... +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-disappointed to see it so far from the mark. That said, the +AF8-shape+AF8- of +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-the track itself seems fine, so I'm guessing it was an issue of time +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Oh I see. I guess I was only taking the shape of the track into account. +ADw-br+AD4- That is why I didn't understand why you didn't like it. I understand now :) +ADw-br+AD4- The elevation of many of the other tracks seems awesome though. +ADw-br+AD4- IMHO much more apparent than GP2. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-While I love the sound of a fine machine, the audio I hear +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- from F1 TV coverage is a roar of exhaust accompanied by a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- buzzing and rattling racket. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-To me not a purely pleasant sound. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Maaate, you've obviously never heard the V12 in the Ferrari 412T2 +ADw-br+AD4- before. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Painfully loud bouncing off the walls in the streets of +ADw-br+AD4- Adelaide, but very satisfying. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Not as good as a Mercedes-Benz W125, but +ADw-br+AD4- thats another story. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--Jono Hill +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Hmm, the tracks in F1RS aren't +AF8-THAT+AF8- bad that they would make me put +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-up with that sort of driving model though... +ADs--) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-I agree. I don't know why such a big fuss is made over the tracks in +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-F1RS. To me they seem better than GP2, and fairly representive +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-of the real thing. At least it is close enough where I don't worry about +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-it :-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Well, I went to the Montreal F1 GP each year since 1989, and all I can say +ADw-br+AD4- is that it is so unreal that I laugh at it each time I race there (well, its +ADw-br+AD4- the only track that I am +ACY-quot+ADs-decent+ACY-quot+ADs- with some 1:19:xxx times). I posted a long +ADw-br+AD4- post somewhere in r.a.s. about 4days ago about the Montreal track in F1RS, +ADw-br+AD4- compared to Gp2. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It should be a good base for Ubisoft +ACY-quot+ADs-I hope+ACY-quot+ADs-. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Well you maybe think +ACY-quot+ADs-So what?+ACY-quot+ADs-. I understand for you, but for me who is +ADw-br+AD4- living 5mins from the track it is one of the major flaws of the game. Kinda +ADw-br+AD4- like the Japan F1RS lover who lives just across Suzuka. Sorry for him :-( +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AKg- Fran?ois Mnard +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AKg- With great respect, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- May the downforce be with you, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AKg- +ACY-lt+ADs-ymenard+ACY-gt+ADs- on NROS, sponsored by +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- http://www.awpss.com/ +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- SimRacing director, AWPSS +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AKg- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- Excuse me for my provocative posts and reply's +ACY-lt+ADs-g+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-begin 666 ymenard.vcf +ADw-br+AD4- M0D5'24XZ5D-+ACE-4D0-+ACY-quot+ADs-DXZ3+ACY-gt+ADs-EN87)D.T9R86+AFs-G+ADs-VES.TXN+ACM-0I+ACY-amp+ADs-3CIY+ADs-65N87)D +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Steve Fergus+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 30 Jan 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- net+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- Distribution: +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
: +ADw-br+AD4- : Well, I went to the Montreal F1 GP each year since 1989, and all I can say +ADw-br+AD4- : is that it is so unreal that I laugh at it each time I race there (well, its +ADw-br+AD4- : the only track that I am +ACY-quot+ADs-decent+ACY-quot+ADs- with some 1:19:xxx times). I posted a long +ADw-br+AD4- : post somewhere in r.a.s. about 4days ago about the Montreal track in F1RS, +ADw-br+AD4- : compared to Gp2. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It should be a good base for Ubisoft +ACY-quot+ADs-I hope+ACY-quot+ADs-. +ADw-br+AD4- : +ADw-br+AD4- : Well you maybe think +ACY-quot+ADs-So what?+ACY-quot+ADs-. I understand for you, but for me who is +ADw-br+AD4- : living 5mins from the track it is one of the major flaws of the game. Kinda +ADw-br+AD4- : like the Japan F1RS lover who lives just across Suzuka. Sorry for him :-( +ADw-br+AD4- : +ADw-br+AD4- Is the GP2 representation accurate? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I have never driven on +ADw-br+AD4- Montreal's circuit, but the versions in the Playstation Formula 1 +ADw-br+AD4- game and F1RS seem rather +ACY-quot+ADs-stretched out+ACY-quot+ADs-, especially in the area +ADw-br+AD4- of T3-T6 or so. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I also agree that realism should take precedence over flashy +ADw-br+AD4- graphics. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I find the environment much more immersive if I know +ADw-br+AD4- that it is replicating the real world track. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I always found +ADw-br+AD4- the ICR2 tracks fairly accurate (apart from details like artificial +ADw-br+AD4- walls instead of chicane curbs) and it didn't matter to me if +ADw-br+AD4- I had to turn some detail off, because under it all was, for +ADw-br+AD4- example, a Toronto track that looked exactly like the Toronto +ADw-br+AD4- track that I snuck onto with my car one quiet July evening :) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Stephen +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-Who gives a stuff? +ADw-br+AD4- You, I and fifty zillion others will never, ever race in a F1 car on an +ADw-br+AD4- F1 circuit, for Christ's sake+ACEAIQ- +ADw-br+AD4- The accuracy of the reproduction of a track has no bearing at all on +ADw-br+AD4- whether the sim is enjoyable or not. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Bruce. +ADw-br+AD4- (At home) +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:42:04 +110-, Bruce Kennewell +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Who gives a stuff? +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-You, I and fifty zillion others will never, ever race in a F1 car on an +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-F1 circuit, for Christ's sake+ACEAIQ- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-The accuracy of the reproduction of a track has no bearing at all on +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-whether the sim is enjoyable or not. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-For you. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I, however, give a stuff, and if I'm racing in a simulation I expect +ADw-br+AD4- it to be as realistic as is practical - that extends to all aspects of +ADw-br+AD4- it. Why do you think Papyrus offered the N2 fantasy tracks as a free +ADw-br+AD4- download but sold their renditons of the real tracks? Licensing money +ADw-br+AD4- is one issue, customers having more interested in true-to-life +ADw-br+AD4- circuits being the other. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Cheers+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- John +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:42:04 +110-, Bruce Kennewell +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Who gives a stuff? +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-You, I and fifty zillion others will never, ever race in a F1 car on an +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-F1 circuit, for Christ's sake+ACEAIQ- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-The accuracy of the reproduction of a track has no bearing at all on +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-whether the sim is enjoyable or not. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Would you be happy with any thing at all as long as it had the right +ADw-br+AD4- name? I'll assume not, but please correct me if that's a wrong assumption +ADw-br+AD4- +ADs--). So at some point the accuracy of the track ceases to match your +ADw-br+AD4- expectations. If the standard of the track is sufficiently worse than +ADw-br+AD4- what you deem acceptable then your enjoyment of it will be diminished. +ADw-br+AD4- That's all anyone is saying. If people have different expectations +ADw-br+AD4- because they might know the tracks better then isn't that their +ADw-br+AD4- privilege? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-BTW - for those who think that describing inaccuracies in the tracks is +ADw-br+AD4- somehow an attack on your favourite sim of the month, maybe you should +ADw-br+AD4- consider that it is in some ways a compliment. If the differences in the +ADw-br+AD4- tracks didn't have any effect on the way the car is driven, no-one at all +ADw-br+AD4- would be bothered about those differences +ACY-lt+ADs-g+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Cheers, +ADw-br+AD4- Richard +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:42:04 +110-, Bruce Kennewell +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4AJg-lt+ADs-snipped bashing on me only because my last name is Mnard+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
Well, maybe someday some company will sell him a sim with Talladega with a +ADw-br+AD4- chicane. Heck it's +ACY-quot+ADs-looks+ACY-quot+ADs- like the track, but I will never driver a NASCAR +ADw-br+AD4- at this track, So I don't care +ACE- +ACY-lt+ADs-ggg+ACY-gt+ADs- Well, maybe not him, but ouch I +ADw-br+AD4- wouldn't want to see r.a.s. flaming them +ACE- (ducking at the big flameball +ADw-br+AD4- thrown at them+ACE-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I just hope UbiSoft is listening, maybe someday in the next version they +ADw-br+AD4- will fix some of the track accuracy's. Same at thing at Papyrus. All of +ADw-br+AD4- them. We are just helping them create a better game. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I never said +ACY-quot+ADs-This +ADw-br+AD4- track s+ACo-cks it's plain sh+ACo-it+ACY-quot+ADs-. Look at a previous post Bruce I made about +ADw-br+AD4- all the inaccuracies of the F1RS Montreal track. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Well, any person that have +ADw-br+AD4- ever raced on it agree that there is flaws. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I'm just illustrating facts +ADw-br+AD4- that can make this game better. If we would had shut our mouth on the +ADw-br+AD4- Cart:PR flaws, NROS flaw, Nascar2 flaws, etc, etc... I don't think some of +ADw-br+AD4- these games would have been patched. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Btw I love F1RS it's my favourite +ADw-br+AD4- simracing title after N2 and SODA. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Even in D3D +ADs--) +ACY-nbsp+ADs-(waiting for the +ADw-br+AD4- Voodoo2 to put with my STB Velocity128 AGP). +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Customers happy +AD0- more +ACQ-ales in the future. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AKg- Fran?ois Mnard +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AKg- With great respect, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- May the downforce be with you, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AKg- +ACY-lt+ADs-ymenard+ACY-gt+ADs- on NROS, sponsored by +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- http://www.awpss.com/ +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- SimRacing director, AWPSS +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AKg- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- Excuse me for my provocative posts and reply's +ACY-lt+ADs-g+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-begin 666 ymenard.vcf +ADw-br+AD4- M0D5'24XZ5D-+ACE-4D0-+ACY-quot+ADs-DXZ3+ACY-gt+ADs-EN87)D.T9R86+AFs-G+ADs-VES.TXN+ACM-0I+ACY-amp+ADs-3CIY+ADs-65N87)D +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-Steve Ferguson wrote +ADw-br+AD4- I wrote +ACY-lt+ADs-snip+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
Gp2 is a great model of the 1994 Montreal track. The only flaw is the Senna +ADw-br+AD4- Chicane, but the elevation change after is perfect. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The track changed many +ADw-br+AD4- times because of Ayrton Senna's death, so the frontstrech before the pit +ADw-br+AD4- chicane as been changed a lot since 1994. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Btw this year there will not be +ADw-br+AD4- any change between turn3-6 because of Olivier Panis's crash AFAIK. In the F1 +ADw-br+AD4- PS game it's accurate but not as in Gp2 (but still better than F1RS). And +ADw-br+AD4- yes the tracks are streched out between T3 and T6. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-In real life they take +ADw-br+AD4- Turn2-5 full speed. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-They only brake for the upcomming chicane. It's the +ADw-br+AD4- best modelled part of Gp2 Montreal track. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
Heheh +ACE- I agree. I would rather have perfect realism that flashy graphics. +ADw-br+AD4- Kinda why I like SODA so much. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Icr2 track were very very accurate for the +ADw-br+AD4- time the sim was out. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-And Toronto was one of the best modeled track in +ADw-br+AD4- Icr2. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I am kinda +ACY-quot+ADs-picky+ACY-quot+ADs- on track realism. I dream of the Glen without a +ADw-br+AD4- innerloop wall :-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AKg- Fran?ois Mnard +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AKg- With great respect, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- May the downforce be with you, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AKg- +ACY-lt+ADs-ymenard+ACY-gt+ADs- on NROS, sponsored by +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- http://www.awpss.com/ +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- SimRacing director, AWPSS +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AKg- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- Excuse me for my provocative posts and reply's +ACY-lt+ADs-g+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-begin 666 ymenard.vcf +ADw-br+AD4- M0D5'24XZ5D-+ACE-4D0-+ACY-quot+ADs-DXZ3+ACY-gt+ADs-EN87)D.T9R86+AFs-G+ADs-VES.TXN+ACM-0I+ACY-amp+ADs-3CIY+ADs-65N87)D +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Who gives a stuff? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Obviously the people voicing their grievences. They have got just as +ADw-br+AD4- much right as the rest of us. I dont think Im the only one who doesnt +ADw-br+AD4- give a stuff about all the dribble you right in this newsgroup. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
Your damn right, thats why we play these games. But it would be nice if +ADw-br+AD4- the tracks where close to accurate. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-(snip) +ADw-br+AD4- for those who think that describing inaccuracies in the tracks is +ADw-br+AD4- somehow an attack on your favourite sim of the month,............. +ADw-br+AD4- (unsnip) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-No, Richard.......attack away if that is your desire. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I'm simply +ADw-br+AD4- astounded at the nit-picking that goes on. +ADw-br+AD4- We are talking about, what?.....+ACQ-80?.....worth of +ACY-quot+ADs-game+ACY-quot+ADs-, that +ADw-br+AD4- nit-pickers seem to think should be so accurate in every detail, from +ADw-br+AD4- the handling of the vehicle if a 1mm adjustment is made to the left-rear +ADw-br+AD4- camber through the geophysical mapping of a circuit in both elevation +ADw-br+AD4- and plan+ACEAIQAh- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-This isn't a couple of million dollars worth of, for example, aircraft +ADw-br+AD4- flight simulator, where a small innacuracy in the system could lead a +ADw-br+AD4- pilot to land 200 feet short of a runway in real life. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-This is a SIMULATION.......a GAME+ACEAIQAhACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-If you want 100+ACU- accuracy and correctness in every detail, including +ADw-br+AD4- vehicle physics/dynamics and geophysical mapping, spend a few tens of +ADw-br+AD4- thousands of dollars and contract a specialist to create for you a +ADw-br+AD4- unique SIMULATOR. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If you are not prepared to outlay that amount of +ADw-br+AD4- money, simply ask yourself this question:- Have I got my eighty bucks +ADw-br+AD4- worth? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If the answer is 'yes', then stop being so picky. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If the answer +ADw-br+AD4- is 'no', learn from the experience and complain to the production house. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Bruce +ADw-br+AD4- (at work) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-quot+ADs-Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get +ADw-br+AD4- tired.+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- (Jules Renard) +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-On Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:46:40 +110-, Bruce Kennewell +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-This is a SIMULATION.......a GAME+ACEAIQAhACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-The games I am interested in all claim how well they simulate the real +ADw-br+AD4- world. It is therefore perfectly valid to discuss how well each one +ADw-br+AD4- achieves this. If you don't like such discussions then simply keep out of +ADw-br+AD4- them. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I'm not 'attacking' anyone or any sim producer and it's not my fault if +ADw-br+AD4- you read into my posts what is simply not there. The developers who +ADw-br+AD4- desire to produce realistic sims welcome constructive feedback. How else +ADw-br+AD4- are they going to judge what is and is not appreciated by the market? +ADw-br+AD4- It's certainly my experience that the developers respond much better to +ADw-br+AD4- criticism than those who fawn all over the latest sim only to end up +ADw-br+AD4- slagging it off when the next one appears. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Cheers, +ADw-br+AD4- Richard +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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