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I have a very good life, and I made it this way by avoiding +ADw-br+AD4- the way of thinking of +ACY-quot+ADs-the average guy+ACY-quot+ADs-. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-As long as the fanatics of anything (NASCAR and GPL included) have contrary +ADw-br+AD4- opinions to mine, than I know I must be on the right track. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Not one of the people's who's opinions I respect on this newsgroup appeared +ADw-br+AD4- in this NASCAR thread with anything negative to say to me. The people's +ADw-br+AD4- who's opinions I respect seem to respect mine (sim developers seem to as +ADw-br+AD4- well, because the offers to test keep coming year after year). They and I +ADw-br+AD4- may not be in the majority (here at r.a.s.), but then again I doubt any of +ADw-br+AD4- us would feel comfortable in that position. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Average is bad. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-David G Fisher +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Even that does not knock him from his groove, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-though. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Good post. I feel bad for David, actually. He used to be such a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- reasonable poster. But ever since he got the +ACY-quot+ADs-GPL isn't the end all +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- and be all+ACY-quot+ADs- bee in his bonnet he's become increasingly combative and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- stubborn around here. Maybe when you're that freaking wrong for so +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- long (if we're facing facts for the moment, GPL IS still the best +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- racing simulation) it colors your opinions about the whole genre. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Joe McGinn +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +AF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBf- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Radical Entertainment +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p212+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile212+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Gerry Aitke+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content212+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p212+ACIAPg-NASCAR Should Be Shut Down+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Gerry Aitke+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Feb 2001 17:38:11+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Bill Clinton? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Do you live under the same stone as DGF? +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p213+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile213+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Andre Warrin+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content213+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p213+ACIAPg-NASCAR Should Be Shut Down+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Andre Warrin+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Feb 2001 18:06:10+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- This is one of the longest posts I ever saw on RAS, and allmost +ADw-br+AD4- everybody, let's say it nicely, disagrees with you. +ADw-br+AD4- And now you state people 'who's opinion you respect' seem to agree +ADw-br+AD4- with you because they don't post in this thread. +ADw-br+AD4- You don't 'respect' any of the 140 people that replied to your +ADw-br+AD4- post. +ADw-br+AD4- You are even more blind than Derek Smart. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Here's a serious advice David: Apologize for your rambling and stop +ADw-br+AD4- posting this +ACoAKgAq-while you can, you're +ACY-nbsp+ADs-making a fool out of +ADw-br+AD4- yourself. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Andre +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-quot+ADs-Michael feels the same way about safety in auto racing as I do. Great minds +ADw-br+AD4- think alike.+ACY-quot+ADs- - David G Fisher +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p214+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile214+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Andre Warrin+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content214+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p214+ACIAPg-NASCAR Should Be Shut Down+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Andre Warrin+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Feb 2001 18:53:53+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Because you actually think that if someone doesn't respond, he +ADw-br+AD4- automatically agrees with you. +ADw-br+AD4- From your previous post: +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Andre +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-quot+ADs-Michael feels the same way about safety in auto racing as I do. Great minds +ADw-br+AD4- think alike.+ACY-quot+ADs- - David G Fisher +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p215+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile215+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Jan Verschuere+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content215+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p215+ACIAPg-NASCAR Should Be Shut Down+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Jan Verschuere+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Feb 2001 19:46:17+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-You're beginning to catch on Don... DGF seems a very reasonnable intelligent +ADw-br+AD4- person. Someone you could have a civil debate with, but, sadly, in my +ADw-br+AD4- experience this is just not the case as he just ignores things he can't +ADw-br+AD4- refute. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I have therefore refrained from commenting on this issue, which, apparently, +ADw-br+AD4- now makes me part of the silent majority who agrees with him. -lol +ADs--) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Jan. +ADw-br+AD4- +AD0---- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p216+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile216+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Jan Verschuere+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content216+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p216+ACIAPg-NASCAR Should Be Shut Down+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Jan Verschuere+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Feb 2001 19:59:33+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Only you David.... lol. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Jan. +ADw-br+AD4- +AD0---- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p217+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile217+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Jan Verschuere+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content217+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p217+ACIAPg-NASCAR Should Be Shut Down+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Jan Verschuere+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:01:20+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-In my experience there's only two kinds of opinions DGF respects: +ADw-br+AD4- his own and those of who he agrees with. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-The regulars who disagree and haven't commented on this issue restrained +ADw-br+AD4- themselves because they've come to realise the futility of doing so, IMO. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Jan. +ADw-br+AD4- +AD0---- +ADw-br+AD4- PS.: Nice sig Andre. lol +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p218+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile218+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-David G Fishe+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content218+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p218+ACIAPg-NASCAR Should Be Shut Down+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-David G Fishe+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:04:40+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Andre disagrees with me. What a surprise. You disagree with every single +ADw-br+AD4- post I ever make on r.a.s. Did you read the post Andre? I just made it very +ADw-br+AD4- clear whether or not I hoped or cared if certain types of people agreed with +ADw-br+AD4- my opinions. +ACY-quot+ADs-Allmost everybody+ACY-quot+ADs- is the key phrase. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- That's not what I said at all. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Sorry Andre, but the fools are the NASCAR fans. If you lived in the U.S. you +ADw-br+AD4- might have a clue as to how they are perceived here by the overwhelming +ADw-br+AD4- majority of the public. They rank just a bit above the WWF fans. I assure +ADw-br+AD4- you they got that ranking without any help from me. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-David G Fisher +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p219+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile219+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-David G Fishe+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content219+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p219+ACIAPg-NASCAR Should Be Shut Down+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-David G Fishe+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:11:24+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-BTW, I didn't create any mess. When I read something that I honestly feel +ADw-br+AD4- is +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-ridiculous (as you and some others claimed my post was), I don't waste my +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-time responding. Why do you? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-David G Fisher +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Because you actually think that if someone doesn't respond, he +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- automatically agrees with you. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- From your previous post: +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Not one of the people's who's opinions I respect on this newsgroup +ADw-br+AD4- appeared +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- in this NASCAR thread with anything negative to say to me. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Nice try Andre, but you're reaching. I see Jan is backing you up, as usual. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-David G Fisher +ADw-br+AD4- Wonders how Andre can play GPL two hours a day, every day, yet still has +ADw-br+AD4- time to disagree with every post I've ever made. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p220+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile220+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Andre Warrin+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content220+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p220+ACIAPg-NASCAR Should Be Shut Down+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Andre Warrin+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:20:21+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- You and I have different opinions about sim racing. You like 4x4 Evo +ADw-br+AD4- and you don't like GPL. I think otherwise. +ADw-br+AD4- I agreed with your opinions about F1RC though, I don't 'automatically' +ADw-br+AD4- disagree with you. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Ah, so you only care for people who agree with your opinions. +ADw-br+AD4- You start to sound more and more like Derek. Scary. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- No? +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-quot+ADs-Not one of the people's who's opinions I respect on this newsgroup +ADw-br+AD4- appeared in this NASCAR thread with anything negative to say to me. +ADw-br+AD4- The people's who's opinions I respect seem to respect mine (sim +ADw-br+AD4- developers seem to as well, because the offers to test keep coming +ADw-br+AD4- year after year).+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Please answer me on this one David. How come you don't respect these +ADw-br+AD4- people? Let me repeat again, before you deny saying things like this: +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-quot+ADs-Not one of the people's who's opinions I respect on this newsgroup +ADw-br+AD4- appeared in this NASCAR thread with anything negative to say to me.+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- I don't care about your opinion David, I found your original post +ADw-br+AD4- respectless and offending, but I chose to ignore it. +ADw-br+AD4- But saying that you don't respect the people who replied to your +ADw-br+AD4- nonsense is simply disgusting. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Let me guess your answer: +ADw-br+AD4- a) No reply at all +ADw-br+AD4- b) +ACY-quot+ADs-I didn't say that+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Andre +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-quot+ADs-Michael feels the same way about safety in auto racing as I do. Great minds +ADw-br+AD4- think alike.+ACY-quot+ADs- - David G Fisher +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p221+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile221+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Jan Loebzie+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content221+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p221+ACIAPg-NASCAR Should Be Shut Down+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Jan Loebzie+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:37:01+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:38:11 +000-, Gerry Aitken +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Do you live under the same stone as DGF? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Geez, you call this an insult? +ADw-br+AD4- Come on, you can do better than that, can't you? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Jan +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p222+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile222+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Andre Warrin+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content222+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p222+ACIAPg-NASCAR Should Be Shut Down+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Andre Warrin+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:28:58+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-BTW, I didn't create any mess. When I read something that I honestly feel +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-is +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-ridiculous (as you and some others claimed my post was), I don't waste my +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-time responding. Why do you? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-David G Fisher +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- Because you actually think that if someone doesn't respond, he +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- automatically agrees with you. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- From your previous post: +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Not one of the people's who's opinions I respect on this newsgroup +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-appeared +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- in this NASCAR thread with anything negative to say to me. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Nice try Andre, but you're reaching. I see Jan is backing you up, as usual. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-As usual, you're avoiding the discussion. Typical. Cheap. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- I didn't disagree with your F1RC opinion, that's actually the first +ADw-br+AD4- sim we both like. +ADw-br+AD4- And I have two hours a day to spend on GPL, but what has got that to +ADw-br+AD4- do with this? A usual attempt from you to avoid the issue here. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Really David, I respect everybodys opinion, even if they are from you. +ADw-br+AD4- But most of your comments in the Nascar thread are too disrespectfull +ADw-br+AD4- for words. You're unbelievable. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Andre +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-quot+ADs-Michael feels the same way about safety in auto racing as I do. Great minds +ADw-br+AD4- think alike.+ACY-quot+ADs- - David G Fisher +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p223+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile223+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Andre Warrin+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content223+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p223+ACIAPg-NASCAR Should Be Shut Down+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Andre Warrin+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:31:16+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:01:20 +010-, +ACY-quot+ADs-Jan Verschueren+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-In my experience there's only two kinds of opinions DGF respects: +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-his own and those of who he agrees with. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-The regulars who disagree and haven't commented on this issue restrained +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-themselves because they've come to realise the futility of doing so, IMO. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-There was a talk about the Nascar thread on VROC yesterday, and you're +ADw-br+AD4- right. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Cool eh? I was looking for a good quote for my sig for some time, but +ADw-br+AD4- now I finally found one worthy enough. +ADw-br+AD4- That Nascar thread was good for one thing after all. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Andre +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-quot+ADs-Michael feels the same way about safety in auto racing as I do. Great minds +ADw-br+AD4- think alike.+ACY-quot+ADs- - David G Fisher +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p224+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile224+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Barton Brow+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content224+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p224+ACIAPg-NASCAR Should Be Shut Down+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Barton Brow+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 25 Feb 2001 01:17:15+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- Not one of the people's who's +AFs-sic+AF0- opinions I respect on this +ADw-br+AD4- newsgroup appeared +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- in this NASCAR thread with anything negative to say to me. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-That's because the only people WHOSE opinions you +ACY-nbsp+ADs-respect are the +ADw-br+AD4- people that agree 100+ACU- with your own rampant and brain-dead biases. Oh, +ADw-br+AD4- and now I notice -- a distinct change from your earliest drivel on this +ADw-br+AD4- matter -- that NASCAR +ACo-drivers+ACo- are wise, thoughtful, and benevolent +ADw-br+AD4- beings -- it's only the fans, team owners, sanctioning body, and track +ADw-br+AD4- owners who are -- every last one of them -- moronic, +ACoAKgAq-thirsty, +ADw-br+AD4- greedy, misguided, and uncaring... until, of course, you see a quote by +ADw-br+AD4- one of them in the National Enquirer (I'm guessing that's your main +ADw-br+AD4- source of news) that says +ACY-quot+ADs-By golly, that David God Fisher has got +ADw-br+AD4- something there+ACE- Something's gotta be done about these OTHER moronic, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACoAKgAq-thirsty, greedy, etc., etc. scumbags who are keeping the sport in +ADw-br+AD4- the dark ages+ACEAJg-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-And a previous commentater is correct, you never answer any replies that +ADw-br+AD4- show how wrong you are about certain of your +ACY-quot+ADs-facts+ACY-quot+ADs- -- open-face +ADw-br+AD4- helmets, for example, which are used in many FIA-sanctioned events to +ADw-br+AD4- this day. You have no facts, you just wave blank sheets of paper around +ADw-br+AD4- in your hand like Joe McCarthy +ACY-nbsp+ADs-(look it up) telling the world how many +ADw-br+AD4- Communists are in the State Department. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-This, however, is the best: +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- developers seem to as well, because the offers to test keep coming year +ADw-br+AD4- after year). They and I may not be in the majority (here at r.a.s.), but +ADw-br+AD4- then again I doubt any of us would feel comfortable in that position. +ACY-lt+ADsAJg-lt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-If you're getting +ACY-quot+ADs-offers to test...year after year,+ACY-quot+ADs- it must be because +ADw-br+AD4- the developers figure that if even YOU can't bollix the whole thing up, +ADw-br+AD4- then even the most mentally-challenged pre-pubescent should be able to +ADw-br+AD4- get through the game without it crashing every six seconds. And then +ADw-br+AD4- comes the royal, name-dropping-without-specific-names +ACY-quot+ADs-They and I,+ACY-quot+ADs- as +ADw-br+AD4- if your kneejerk flamebait was sanctioned by your close friends, the +ADw-br+AD4- World Consortium of Game Developers. I have a strong suspicion that not +ADw-br+AD4- many people involved with EA or Papyrus, to name just two, would +ADw-br+AD4- subscribe to the following +ACY-quot+ADs-statements of Fisherian Fact,+ACY-quot+ADs- and I +ADw-br+AD4- challenge you to produce a single one: +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-From +ACY-quot+ADs-The Collected Wisdom of David God Fisher+ACY-quot+ADs-: +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +AFs-sic+AF0- drivers. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-p+AD4- Or try this Gem from your treasure trove of wisdom on Phil Hill or Dan +ADw-br+AD4- Gurney -- I'm certain they'd agree with you without hesitation: +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ACY-quot+ADs-real+ACY-quot+ADs- drivers because +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Does this mean that it's only since 1994 that F1 drivers were +ACY-quot+ADs-real+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- drivers, since -- according to you -- they have been CERTAIN since that +ADw-br+AD4- time that there was no possibility of getting killed in a racing car? +ADw-br+AD4- Did they all have mass memroy loss followinf Imola? I see in one of your +ADw-br+AD4- latest gurglings that you admit it's +ACo-possible+ACo- a driver could actually +ADw-br+AD4- be killed in F1+ADs- does that now make all current F1 drivers +ACY-quot+ADs-foolish +ADw-br+AD4- people who +AFs-don't+AF0- value their lives very much+ACY-quot+ADs-? This, by the way, is +ADw-br+AD4- why generalizations based on short-term and limited anecdotal evidence +ADw-br+AD4- almost always leads to poor conclusions, as it has in regards to every +ADw-br+AD4- single statement you made in your original troll. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-You know what the difference is between David God Fisher and normal, +ADw-br+AD4- functioning human beings? Normal, functioning human beings learn from +ADw-br+AD4- their mistakes. You, however, trip over the truth lying in the middle of +ADw-br+AD4- the road, brush yourself off, and pretend that nothing happened -- and +ADw-br+AD4- you do it repeatedly. As Lord Melbourne said of Thomas Babbington +ADw-br+AD4- Macaulay: +ACY-quot+ADs-I wish I were as+ACoAKgAq-sure of +ACo-anything+ACo- as Tom Macaulay is of +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo-everything+ACoAJg-quot+ADs- If that's a bit over your head, try this: the mere act of +ADw-br+AD4- you giving breath to one of the malformed demi-thoughts that roil around +ADw-br+AD4- like a cesspool on the boil in your voluminous but largely vacant +ADw-br+AD4- pumpkin does not make that uttered demi-thought into a FACT, though you +ADw-br+AD4- seem to think everything you say is as the revealed word of the God that +ADw-br+AD4- is your middle name. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- But stupid is worse. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-BB +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-hr /+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar bottom+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg- +ADw-ul+AD4- +ADw-li class+AD0AIg-pageleft+ACIAPg-Page:+ADw-/li+AD4APA-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-1.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-1+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-2.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-2+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-3.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-3+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-4.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-4+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-5.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-5+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-6.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-6+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-7.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-7+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-8.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-8+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-9.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-9+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-10.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-10+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-11.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-11+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-12.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-12+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-13.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-13+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-14.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-14+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-15.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-15+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-16.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-16+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-17.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-17+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-18.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-18+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a1f8282fbe192b26+AF8-19.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-19+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-/ul+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-navbar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-br/+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-spacedbox+ACIAPgA8-div class+AD0AIg-adbox+ACIAPg- +ADwAIQ--- Large Footer --+AD4- +ADw-ins class+AD0AIg-adsbygoogle+ACI- style+AD0AIg-display:block+ACI- data-ad-client+AD0AIg-ca-pub-4601021536021499+ACI- data-ad-slot+AD0AIg-8598264538+ACI- data-ad-format+AD0AIg-auto+ACI- data-full-width-responsive+AD0AIg-true+ACIAPgA8-/ins+AD4- +ADw-script type+AD0-'text/javascript'+AD4- (function() +AHs- var done +AD0- false+ADs- var script +AD0- document.createElement('script')+ADs- script.async +AD0- true+ADs- script.type +AD0- 'text/javascript'+ADs- script.src +AD0- '//pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/js/adsbygoogle.js'+ADs- var createScript +AD0- setTimeout( function()+AHs- document.getElementsByTagName('HEAD').item(0).appendChild(script)+ADs- +AH0-, 400 )+ADs- script.onreadystatechange +AD0- script.onload +AD0- function(e) +AHs- if (+ACE-done +ACYAJg- (+ACE-this.readyState +AHwAfA- this.readyState +AD0APQ- 'loaded' +AHwAfA- this.readyState +AD0APQ- 'complete')) +AHs- (adsbygoogle +AD0- window.adsbygoogle +AHwAfA- +AFsAXQ-).push(+AHsAfQ-)+ADs- +AH0- +AH0AOw- +AH0-)()+ADs- +ADw-/script+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-div style+AD0AIg-margin:0 auto+ADs-clear:both+ADs-max-width:990px+ADs-text-align:center+ADs-padding:20px+ADsAIgA+-rec.autos.simulators is a usenet newsgroup formed in December, 1993. 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