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1194 --+AD4- +ADwAIQ--- Fri, 07 Jan 2022 00:55:52 - Fri, 07 Jan 2022 00:55:52 --+AD4APA-h1 class+AD0AIg-linkback+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIg-https://rec-autos-simulators.net/+ACIAPg-rec.autos.simulators+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h1+AD4- +ADw-h2 class+AD0AIg-topic-title+ACIAPg-I wants old VROC with GPL 1.0+ADw-/h2+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar top+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p1+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile1+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Hot Pant+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content1+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p1+ACIAPg-I wants old VROC with GPL 1.0+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Hot Pant+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Yeah, so it looks pretty dead at the original VROC+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-This bites, as I'm not +ADw-br+AD4- going anywhere near the GPL patch what with the problems it's giving people. +ADw-br+AD4- Guess I'll have to continue +ACY-quot+ADs-playing with myself+ACY-quot+ADs-... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Hot Pants +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p2+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile2+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Jeff Vince+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content2+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p2+ACIAPg-I wants old VROC with GPL 1.0+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Jeff Vince+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Jul 1999 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:19:14 -0700, +ACY-quot+ADs-Hot Pants+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Yeah, so it looks pretty dead at the original VROC+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-This bites, as I'm not +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-going anywhere near the GPL patch what with the problems it's giving people. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Guess I'll have to continue +ACY-quot+ADs-playing with myself+ACY-quot+ADs-... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-You should at least give it a try, since a lot of us +ACo-aren't+ACo- +ADw-br+AD4- having problems. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Most online slowdowns have been solved with using +ADw-br+AD4- the old sync method (0). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Most offline slowdowns have been traced to +ADw-br+AD4- PCI internal modems. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-There will be a new patch, but that's weeks +ADw-br+AD4- away. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-So why deprive yourself, Mr. Pants? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If you feel really scared by the patch, either: +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- do a completely separate install of 1.1, or +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo- save a copy of your 1.0 GPL.EXE and CORE.INI and swap with the 1.1 +ADw-br+AD4- versions if you want to go back (that's what we're doing in the +ADw-br+AD4- GPLWS). +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-quot+ADs-But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was +ADw-br+AD4- nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into +ADw-br+AD4- a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport.+ACY-quot+ADs- -- Jim Clark +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p3+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile3+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Neil Rain+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content3+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p3+ACIAPg-I wants old VROC with GPL 1.0+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Neil Rain+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Jul 1999 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Yeah, so it looks pretty dead at the original VROC+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-This bites, as I'm not +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- going anywhere near the GPL patch what with the problems it's giving people. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Guess I'll have to continue +ACY-quot+ADs-playing with myself+ACY-quot+ADs-... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I've also felt that it's harder to get a decent race at VROC since the +ADw-br+AD4- 1.1 patch came out. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-There seem to be less drivers out there, but the main thing I've noticed +ADw-br+AD4- is that what with all these dedicated servers hosting races +ADw-br+AD4- continuously, the drivers are spread more thinly between them. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-It seems to me that people stay in the paddock waiting to see which +ADw-br+AD4- server everyone else will join before committing themselves+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-The pings are much better, but what's the point of that if you're the +ADw-br+AD4- only one in the race? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-On top of all that, I've now found that the AI are great fun to race +ADw-br+AD4- with - the consensus seems to be that they've actually improved since +ADw-br+AD4- 1.0, but I couldn't say that for certain - it's only recently that I've +ADw-br+AD4- become quick enough to compete with the top AI cars. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p4+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile4+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Joel Willstei+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content4+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p4+ACIAPg-I wants old VROC with GPL 1.0+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Joel Willstei+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Jul 1999 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +AD4-I've also felt that it's harder to get a decent race at VROC since the +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4-1.1 patch came out. +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4-There seem to be less drivers out there, but the main thing I've noticed +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4-is that what with all these dedicated servers hosting races +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4-continuously, the drivers are spread more thinly between them. +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4-It seems to me that people stay in the paddock waiting to see which +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4-server everyone else will join before committing themselves+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4-The pings are much better, but what's the point of that if you're the +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4-only one in the race? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Neil, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- I've mentioned the same thing for the last several nights in the +ADw-br+AD4- chatroom at spyboy2. The same half dozen or so dedicated servers are hosting +ADw-br+AD4- unattended races,and most of them have 1 driver listed,the host. What races +ADw-br+AD4- have 6 or more drivers are either private races or F2 or F3. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I don't understand the point of allowing these unattended races,as it +ADw-br+AD4- doesn't promote racing,but quite the opposite. We were actually better off +ADw-br+AD4- with the old system. I wound up hot lapping several times,and this isn't +ADw-br+AD4- what VROC is all about. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-And the strange thing is that several times while in the chat room,we +ADw-br+AD4- decided to race at a track with a host from the chat room. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Joel Willstein +ADw-br+AD4- jaw101+AEA-sprynet.com +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p5+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile5+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Neil Rain+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content5+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p5+ACIAPg-I wants old VROC with GPL 1.0+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Neil Rain+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Jul 1999 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Neil, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- I've mentioned the same thing for the last several nights in the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- chatroom at spyboy2. The same half dozen or so dedicated servers are hosting +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- unattended races,and most of them have 1 driver listed,the host. What races +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- have 6 or more drivers are either private races or F2 or F3. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I don't understand the point of allowing these unattended races,as it +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- doesn't promote racing,but quite the opposite. We were actually better off +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- with the old system. I wound up hot lapping several times,and this isn't +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- what VROC is all about. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-And the strange thing is that several times while in the chat room,we +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- decided to race at a track with a host from the chat room. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-In the old scheme of things I often hosted races and we had a great +ADw-br+AD4- time, even though the actual connection was not as good as with these +ADw-br+AD4- new servers. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Maybe it would be better if the servers were more +ACY-quot+ADs-public+ACY-quot+ADs-, so that +ADw-br+AD4- anyone from the chat room could control one remotely - that way a group +ADw-br+AD4- of people could decide to race at a certain track and then commandeer an +ADw-br+AD4- unused server to host the race. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-It's just a question of the +ACY-quot+ADs-boss+ACY-quot+ADs- password being known to the racers, I +ADw-br+AD4- believe. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I guess this is a bit dodgy in that you can have more than one boss for +ADw-br+AD4- a server and they might disagree over where to go next+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p6+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile6+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Jeff Vince+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content6+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p6+ACIAPg-I wants old VROC with GPL 1.0+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Jeff Vince+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Jul 1999 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgAm-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The problem isn't too many servers, but rather too few drivers to +ADw-br+AD4- fill them. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-So for all of you who have been thinking about +ACo-maybe+ACo- +ADw-br+AD4- trying online racing, here's your opportunity. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-See you there+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-http://www.vroc.net +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:34:50 -0400, +ACY-quot+ADs-Joel Willstein+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAPg-I've also felt that it's harder to get a decent race at VROC since the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-1.1 patch came out. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-There seem to be less drivers out there, but the main thing I've noticed +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-is that what with all these dedicated servers hosting races +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-continuously, the drivers are spread more thinly between them. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-It seems to me that people stay in the paddock waiting to see which +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-server everyone else will join before committing themselves+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-The pings are much better, but what's the point of that if you're the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-only one in the race? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Neil, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I've mentioned the same thing for the last several nights in the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-chatroom at spyboy2. The same half dozen or so dedicated servers are hosting +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-unattended races,and most of them have 1 driver listed,the host. What races +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-have 6 or more drivers are either private races or F2 or F3. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- I don't understand the point of allowing these unattended races,as it +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-doesn't promote racing,but quite the opposite. We were actually better off +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-with the old system. I wound up hot lapping several times,and this isn't +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-what VROC is all about. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- And the strange thing is that several times while in the chat room,we +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-decided to race at a track with a host from the chat room. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Joel Willstein +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-jaw101+AEA-sprynet.com +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4AJg-quot+ADs-But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was +ADw-br+AD4- nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into +ADw-br+AD4- a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport.+ACY-quot+ADs- -- Jim Clark +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p7+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile7+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Chris Schlette+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content7+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p7+ACIAPg-I wants old VROC with GPL 1.0+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Chris Schlette+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 24 Jul 1999 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- Nothing wrong with that at all. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p8+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile8+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Ron Ayto+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content8+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p8+ACIAPg-I wants old VROC with GPL 1.0+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Ron Ayto+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 25 Jul 1999 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- I agree Chris, +ACY-nbsp+ADs-that's strange for us, +ACY-nbsp+ADs-isn't it.. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-:-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-On the subject of too many dedicated hosts and not enough drivers, down +ADw-br+AD4- here in Australia, a lot of us would love to join some of the dedicated +ADw-br+AD4- hosts of an evening (Australian time) but some of the dedicated hosts +ADw-br+AD4- in question have the maximum latency set too low to allow us to enter, +ADw-br+AD4- so the dedicated hosts simply sit their in all their low latency +ADw-br+AD4- dedicated glory doing no-one any good at all.. +ADw-br+AD4- What's the sense of creating a dedicated host, if dedicated racers +ADw-br+AD4- can't get into it ? +ADw-br+AD4- Please, dedicated hosts, set your maximum latency allowed at 600, it +ADw-br+AD4- will certainly get more people involved in GPL, and +ACY-quot+ADs-NO+ACY-quot+ADs-, a client with +ADw-br+AD4- a ping of 400 to 600 will NOT create warpy and accident prone racing.+ACEAIQ- +ADw-br+AD4- Cheers, +ADw-br+AD4- Ron +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p9+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile9+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Eldre+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content9+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p9+ACIAPg-I wants old VROC with GPL 1.0+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Eldre+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 25 Jul 1999 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I agree Chris, +ACY-nbsp+ADs-that's strange for us, +ACY-nbsp+ADs-isn't it.. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-:-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-On the subject of too many dedicated hosts and not enough drivers, down +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-here in Australia, a lot of us would love to join some of the dedicated +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-hosts of an evening (Australian time) but some of the dedicated hosts +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-in question have the maximum latency set too low to allow us to enter, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-so the dedicated hosts simply sit their in all their low latency +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-dedicated glory doing no-one any good at all.. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-What's the sense of creating a dedicated host, if dedicated racers +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-can't get into it ? +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Please, dedicated hosts, set your maximum latency allowed at 600, it +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-will certainly get more people involved in GPL, and +ACY-quot+ADs-NO+ACY-quot+ADs-, a client with +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-a ping of 400 to 600 will NOT create warpy and accident prone racing.+ACEAIQ- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Cheers, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Ron +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Mine's set up with NO limits on entering(E. Pickett). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Try it out, and send me +ADw-br+AD4- some e-mail feedback on how it works for you. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It'll be running all weekend. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Eldred +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AXwBf- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the +ACoAKgAq--sea... +ADw-br+AD4- remove SPAM-OFF to reply. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p10+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile10+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Remco Moe+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content10+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p10+ACIAPg-I wants old VROC with GPL 1.0+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Remco Moe+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 25 Jul 1999 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Please, dedicated hosts, set your maximum latency allowed at 600, it +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-will certainly get more people involved in GPL, and +ACY-quot+ADs-NO+ACY-quot+ADs-, a client with +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-a ping of 400 to 600 will NOT create warpy and accident prone racing.+ACEAIQ- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I second that+ACE- Joined a race on an Australian host (I am from the +ADw-br+AD4- Netherlands, can't be further away +ACY-lt+ADs-g+ACY-gt+ADs-) and it was certainly raceable +ADw-br+AD4- with a latency of 650ms+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Remco +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-hr /+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar bottom+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-navbar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-br/+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-1. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-574684d9291792fe+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Vroc Help: Kicked back to vroc from GPL main menu+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-2. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-7b731ac31eae3d32+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-GPL 1.2, VROC, and GPL Spy Boy+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-3. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-1391f599496a322a+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-GPL Nigel Pattinson+ACYAIw-39+ADs-s +ACY-quot+ADs-Carsound 1.0+ACY-quot+ADs-.+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-4. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-e4da9678d10cab93+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Can you patch GPL to 1.1 over modified 1.0???+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-5. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-b7181f76f9e8577a+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Using GPL 1.0 again+ACEAPA-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-6. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-df87792f2ed49275+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-GPL 1.0 to 1.1 framerate problem+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-7. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-6c5c3d17b067af6d+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Going back to GPL 1.0+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-8. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-c6015da1ddef914c+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-GPL 1.0+ACE- its good to be back+ACEAIQAhACEAPA-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-9. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-56bf2c6b44321877+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Spygirl 1.0 GPL+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-spacedbox+ACIAPgA8-div class+AD0AIg-adbox+ACIAPg- +ADwAIQ--- Large Footer --+AD4- +ADw-ins class+AD0AIg-adsbygoogle+ACI- style+AD0AIg-display:block+ACI- data-ad-client+AD0AIg-ca-pub-4601021536021499+ACI- data-ad-slot+AD0AIg-8598264538+ACI- data-ad-format+AD0AIg-auto+ACI- data-full-width-responsive+AD0AIg-true+ACIAPgA8-/ins+AD4- +ADw-script type+AD0-'text/javascript'+AD4- (function() +AHs- var done +AD0- false+ADs- var script +AD0- document.createElement('script')+ADs- script.async +AD0- true+ADs- script.type +AD0- 'text/javascript'+ADs- script.src +AD0- '//pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/js/adsbygoogle.js'+ADs- var createScript +AD0- setTimeout( function()+AHs- document.getElementsByTagName('HEAD').item(0).appendChild(script)+ADs- +AH0-, 400 )+ADs- script.onreadystatechange +AD0- script.onload +AD0- function(e) +AHs- if (+ACE-done +ACYAJg- (+ACE-this.readyState +AHwAfA- this.readyState +AD0APQ- 'loaded' +AHwAfA- this.readyState +AD0APQ- 'complete')) +AHs- (adsbygoogle +AD0- window.adsbygoogle +AHwAfA- +AFsAXQ-).push(+AHsAfQ-)+ADs- +AH0- +AH0AOw- +AH0-)()+ADs- +ADw-/script+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-div style+AD0AIg-margin:0 auto+ADs-clear:both+ADs-max-width:990px+ADs-text-align:center+ADs-padding:20px+ADsAIgA+-rec.autos.simulators is a usenet newsgroup formed in December, 1993. 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