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Fri, 07 Jan 2022 00:24:32 --+AD4APA-h1 class+AD0AIg-linkback+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIg-https://rec-autos-simulators.net/+ACIAPg-rec.autos.simulators+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h1+AD4- +ADw-h2 class+AD0AIg-topic-title+ACIAPg-MS FF Wheel, I don+ACYAIw-39+ADs-t like it+ACEAPA-/h2+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar top+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p1+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile1+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-And+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content1+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p1+ACIAPg-MS FF Wheel, I don+ACYAIw-39+ADs-t like it+ACEAPA-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-And+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Well I picked up the MS FF wheel today, and will return it tomorrow. +ADw-br+AD4- Now before everyone that loves it jumps on me, there are a few reason +ADw-br+AD4- it won't work for +AF8-me+AF8-. +ADw-br+AD4- 1st: +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It won't work with a Joyswitch. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-(I was almost expecting this) +ADw-br+AD4- I enjoy flightsims as much as racing sims, and I can't live without my +ADw-br+AD4- joyswitch. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-(which lets me switch between my wheel, and flight gear +ADw-br+AD4- with the flip of a switch) +ADw-br+AD4- 2nd: +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The clamp (while nice) won't work with my keyboard drawer. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I +ADw-br+AD4- could remove the drawer or even move it, but no use. (My TM Pro wheel +ADw-br+AD4- fits fine BTW) +ACY-nbsp+ADs-(because of +ACM-1) +ADw-br+AD4- 3rd: +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The wires+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It would have been nice if they could at least made +ADw-br+AD4- the AC adapter plug into the base, instead of the wheel. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I suppose a +ADw-br+AD4- USB version would solve this? +ADw-br+AD4- Those are the main reasons I am returning it. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-(actually number 1) +ADw-br+AD4- However, the base (pedal and gas) +AF8-seems+AF8- very cheap. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-For a +ACQ-200 +ADw-br+AD4- wheel I would expect better. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- The wheel itself has a bit of play in it. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Enough to be annoying, but +ADw-br+AD4- with FF effects or even with the resistance enabled you won't feel it. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-So that might be a moot point, but it made me question the quality. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Of course this is all IMO. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The wheel has received some great reviews +ADw-br+AD4- both from magazines, and people on this news group so they must have +ADw-br+AD4- done something right. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It jus isn't for me. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Maybe I'll try the USB +ADw-br+AD4- version. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-That would solve my joyswitch problem, and hopefully remove +ADw-br+AD4- some of the wires. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- Andy +ADw-br+AD4- . +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p2+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile2+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Mike Kin+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content2+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p2+ACIAPg-MS FF Wheel, I don+ACYAIw-39+ADs-t like it+ACEAPA-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Mike Kin+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Well I picked up the MS FF wheel today, and will return it tomorrow. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Now before everyone that loves it jumps on me, there are a few reason +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-it won't work for +AF8-me+AF8-. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-1st: +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It won't work with a Joyswitch. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-(I was almost expecting this) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I am assuming it is like the sidewinder FFPro, meaning that it uses all of +ADw-br+AD4- the pins on the joystick/midi port. You need a joystick switch that support +ADw-br+AD4- midi devices. One such beast is the J-Link by QuickShot. I use that with my +ADw-br+AD4- ffpro, saitek and tm nprw and everyone seems to get along just fine. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p3+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile3+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-And+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content3+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p3+ACIAPg-MS FF Wheel, I don+ACYAIw-39+ADs-t like it+ACEAPA-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-And+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Well I picked up the MS FF wheel today, and will return it tomorrow. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Now before everyone that loves it jumps on me, there are a few reason +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-it won't work for +AF8-me+AF8-. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-1st: +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It won't work with a Joyswitch. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-(I was almost expecting this) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-I am assuming it is like the sidewinder FFPro, meaning that it uses all of +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-the pins on the joystick/midi port. You need a joystick switch that support +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-midi devices. One such beast is the J-Link by QuickShot. I use that with my +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-ffpro, saitek and tm nprw and everyone seems to get along just fine. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Mike, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Thanks for the info, I will look for this joyswitch tomorrow and hold +ADw-br+AD4- off returning the wheel at least till the weekend. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Does it support up +ADw-br+AD4- to 4 joysticks, and can you switch them when the computer is on? +ADw-br+AD4- Thanks for the info, much appreciated+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- Andy +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p4+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile4+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Mikko Harjul+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content4+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p4+ACIAPg-MS FF Wheel, I don+ACYAIw-39+ADs-t like it+ACEAPA-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Mikko Harjul+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- I enjoy flightsims as much as racing sims, and I can't live without my +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- joyswitch. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-(which lets me switch between my wheel, and flight gear +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- with the flip of a switch) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-car/fsimmer here too+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-How do you make the switch??? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I have CH Pro +ADw-br+AD4- pedals that switch between car/fsim mode but I couldn't make Win 95 +ADw-br+AD4- understand both. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I tried to make two HW configurations with different +ADw-br+AD4- Joystick drivers but when I change the driver in one HW config and +ADw-br+AD4- reboot to the other it has changed there too+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-How do you make win9+ACo- +ADw-br+AD4- detect the correct mode? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Mikko Harjula +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-SQ Consulting Oy +ACY-nbsp+ADsAfA- If you email me from a +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- tel. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +358-3-3165206 +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-33720 Tampere +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +AHw- use subject +ACY-quot+ADs-I AM NOT SPAM+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- fax +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADvfnw-3-3165201 +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-FINLAND +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +AHw- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p5+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile5+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-And+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content5+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p5+ACIAPg-MS FF Wheel, I don+ACYAIw-39+ADs-t like it+ACEAPA-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-And+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- I enjoy flightsims as much as racing sims, and I can't live without my +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- joyswitch. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-(which lets me switch between my wheel, and flight gear +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- with the flip of a switch) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-car/fsimmer here too+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-How do you make the switch??? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I have CH Pro +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-pedals that switch between car/fsim mode but I couldn't make Win 95 +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-The switch is something I bought. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The one I have is called a +ADw-br+AD4- Joyswitch and allows for 4 joysticks. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-All you do with flip the switch +ADw-br+AD4- to the combo you want to use, then in Win95/98 pick that same combo +ADw-br+AD4- from the list of joysticks. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Andy +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-hr /+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar bottom+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-navbar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-br/+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-1. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-71bdcfba283d353e+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-MS FF Wheel vs Actlab FF Wheel?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-2. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-287dc8abd9c17c89+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-FF settings in core.ini for MS FF Wheel+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-3. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-03d99f2d5b0ef145+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Loss of FF with MS FF Sidewinder in NON-FF games+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-4. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-f61ad872632c6156+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-New machine - N4 won+ACYAIw-39+ADs-t see MS FF wheel - Help+ACEAPA-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-5. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-http://www.racesimcentral.net/10+AF8-d0571bc152e83257+AF8-1.htm+ACIAPg-I got it+ACE- I got it+ACE- I don+ACYAIw-39+ADs-t got it.+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-6. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-http://www.racesimcentral.net/15+AF8-f433fee0d977ec71+AF8-1.htm+ACIAPg-Keep it+ACE- Don+ACYAIw-39+ADs-t let the idiot have it+ACEAPA-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-7. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-e27dbdc5e23218db+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-MS Wheel pedals don+ACYAIw-39+ADs-t slide(if you use them right)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-8. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-53824347d290fbff+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-GPL FF and Saitek (MS FF) Settings+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-9. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-aff7f78c269a1d8d+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-FF wheels vs non FF wheels?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-spacedbox+ACIAPgA8-div class+AD0AIg-adbox+ACIAPg- +ADwAIQ--- Large Footer --+AD4- +ADw-ins class+AD0AIg-adsbygoogle+ACI- style+AD0AIg-display:block+ACI- data-ad-client+AD0AIg-ca-pub-4601021536021499+ACI- data-ad-slot+AD0AIg-8598264538+ACI- data-ad-format+AD0AIg-auto+ACI- data-full-width-responsive+AD0AIg-true+ACIAPgA8-/ins+AD4- +ADw-script type+AD0-'text/javascript'+AD4- (function() +AHs- var done +AD0- false+ADs- var script +AD0- document.createElement('script')+ADs- script.async +AD0- true+ADs- script.type +AD0- 'text/javascript'+ADs- script.src +AD0- '//pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/js/adsbygoogle.js'+ADs- var createScript +AD0- setTimeout( function()+AHs- document.getElementsByTagName('HEAD').item(0).appendChild(script)+ADs- +AH0-, 400 )+ADs- script.onreadystatechange +AD0- script.onload +AD0- function(e) +AHs- if (+ACE-done +ACYAJg- (+ACE-this.readyState +AHwAfA- this.readyState +AD0APQ- 'loaded' +AHwAfA- this.readyState +AD0APQ- 'complete')) +AHs- (adsbygoogle +AD0- window.adsbygoogle +AHwAfA- +AFsAXQ-).push(+AHsAfQ-)+ADs- +AH0- +AH0AOw- +AH0-)()+ADs- +ADw-/script+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-div style+AD0AIg-margin:0 auto+ADs-clear:both+ADs-max-width:990px+ADs-text-align:center+ADs-padding:20px+ADsAIgA+-rec.autos.simulators is a usenet newsgroup formed in December, 1993. 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