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Fri, 07 Jan 2022 03:54:24 --+AD4APA-h1 class+AD0AIg-linkback+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIg-https://rec-autos-simulators.net/+ACIAPg-rec.autos.simulators+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h1+AD4- +ADw-h2 class+AD0AIg-topic-title+ACIAPg-Intergraph or Sierra???+ADw-/h2+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar top+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p1+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile1+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-CR Ridl+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content1+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p1+ACIAPg-Intergraph or Sierra???+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-CR Ridl+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Wed, 30 Oct 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-OK, I've narrowed it down to the Intergraph Reactor and the Sierra +ADw-br+AD4- Screamin' 3D video cards. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Both are Rendition ready with 4mb of ram +ADw-br+AD4- and both are +ACQ-199.95. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The only thing that's swaying me toward Sierra +ADw-br+AD4- is the fact that they bundle some interesting software titles with +ADw-br+AD4- their card. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Is the software the kicker, or is the Intergraph so much +ADw-br+AD4- better, that I won't miss the free stuff? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-CR +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p2+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile2+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-SRP+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content2+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p2+ACIAPg-Intergraph or Sierra???+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-SRP+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 31 Oct 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-Will be receiving the Screamin 3d later this week. The software bundle was +ADw-br+AD4- a lot better. I don't know if the reactor is better but I doubt it. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p3+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile3+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-CR Ridl+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content3+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p3+ACIAPg-Intergraph or Sierra???+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-CR Ridl+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 31 Oct 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Will be receiving the Screamin 3d later this week. The software bundle was +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-a lot better. I don't know if the reactor is better but I doubt it. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Yep, same here. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-For some reason alot of people think that Sierra's +ADw-br+AD4- card is not out yet, but it definitely is. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-CR +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p4+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile4+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Ari Yrjo+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content4+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p4+ACIAPg-Intergraph or Sierra???+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Ari Yrjo+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 31 Oct 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- That good service from Intergraph seems to be restricted only for people +ADw-br+AD4- living in USA. Their Finnish office doesn't sell the Reactor, and +ADw-br+AD4- it's not possible to call toll-free number in US from Finland, which is +ADw-br+AD4- the only way to order the Reactor. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Intergraph is an established name in the professional market, but +ADw-br+AD4- maybe their customer support is working overtime now in US, as they +ADw-br+AD4- have entered the home market with Reactor, and are getting much more +ADw-br+AD4- calls than before +ADs--? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-It seems the only way to get ICR2/Rendition is to wait for Sierra's +ADw-br+AD4- Rendition card :( +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p5+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile5+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Robert Johnso+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content5+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p5+ACIAPg-Intergraph or Sierra???+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Robert Johnso+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 01 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- That good service from Intergraph seems to be restricted only for people +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- living in USA. Their Finnish office doesn't sell the Reactor, and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- it's not possible to call toll-free number in US from Finland, which is +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- the only way to order the Reactor. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Hey, you could always make a LD call and order it. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Or wait and complain. +ADw-br+AD4- Your choice. If you can afford the card, surely you can afford a one time +ADw-br+AD4- call to the states. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I did it for three years while living in Germany. +ADw-br+AD4- Depends on badly you want it. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Overtime? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Not that I could tell. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-They (sales) didn't answer the phone +ADw-br+AD4- when I called after hours. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- See my first commment. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p6+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile6+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Hen+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content6+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p6+ACIAPg-Intergraph or Sierra???+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Hen+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 02 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- gotten from Sierra in the past (absolutely abysmal) the choice really +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- wasn't that hard. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Intergraph has quite a reputation, I have nothing but +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- the highest praise for them. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I have received several unsolicited e-mails +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- answering question that have arisen in this newsgroup, and as such I would +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- recommend them to anyone. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- That good service from Intergraph seems to be restricted only for people +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- living in USA. Their Finnish office doesn't sell the Reactor, and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- it's not possible to call toll-free number in US from Finland, which is +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- the only way to order the Reactor. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Besides, Intergraph doesn't do overseas orders ... +ADw-br+AD4- I, too, ordered the Reactor thru Intergraph Finland and found out +ADw-br+AD4- that Intergraph is unable to provide its subsidaries with Reactor. +ADw-br+AD4- I guess the demand in the US is greater than they can deliver ... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Lucky for me, I have a colleague in Houston, TX, who ordered one +ADw-br+AD4- for me and shipped it to FInland. I should receive it today or on +ADw-br+AD4- Monday at the latest ... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Henrikki (Hena) Hakkanen +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Tel. +358-(9)0-345 5538 +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-------- The best way to accelerate a Mac is 9.81 m/s2 -------- +ADw-br+AD4- -------------------------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4- Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are mine and does not +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- necessarily reflect those of my employer+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p7+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile7+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-David E. Anderso+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content7+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p7+ACIAPg-Intergraph or Sierra???+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-David E. Anderso+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 02 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- gotten from Sierra in the past (absolutely abysmal) the choice really +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- wasn't that hard. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Intergraph has quite a reputation, I have nothing but +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- the highest praise for them. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I have received several unsolicited e-mails +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- answering question that have arisen in this newsgroup, and as such I would +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- recommend them to anyone. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- That good service from Intergraph seems to be restricted only for people +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- living in USA. Their Finnish office doesn't sell the Reactor, and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- it's not possible to call toll-free number in US from Finland, which is +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- the only way to order the Reactor. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Besides, Intergraph doesn't do overseas orders ... +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- I, too, ordered the Reactor thru Intergraph Finland and found out +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- that Intergraph is unable to provide its subsidaries with Reactor. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- I guess the demand in the US is greater than they can deliver ... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Intergraph is an established name in the professional market, but +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- maybe their customer support is working overtime now in US, as they +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- have entered the home market with Reactor, and are getting much more +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- calls than before +ADs--? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- It seems the only way to get ICR2/Rendition is to wait for Sierra's +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Rendition card :( +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Lucky for me, I have a colleague in Houston, TX, who ordered one +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- for me and shipped it to FInland. I should receive it today or on +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Monday at the latest ... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Your friend could have ordered Intergraph and gotten it +ADw-br+AD4- overnight. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I dont know if CL or Sierra are shipping in Europe +ADw-br+AD4- either. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It is not a matter of quantity. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-We can handle that. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- Its a matter of export licensing, trade restrictions (i.e. red +ADw-br+AD4- tape.) +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I have spoken with our Engineering +ACY-amp+ADs- Marketing staff and +ADw-br+AD4- these issues are being worked out now. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Regarding +ACY-quot+ADs-customer support working overtime+ACY-quot+ADs- we arent yet. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-We +ADw-br+AD4- have a good product and good engineering that helps us resolve +ADw-br+AD4- problems fast. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- -- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Henrikki (Hena) Hakkanen +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Tel. +358-(9)0-345 5538 +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- ------- The best way to accelerate a Mac is 9.81 m/s2 -------- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- -------------------------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are mine and does not +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- necessarily reflect those of my employer+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- ?tD +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p8+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile8+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Ari Yrjo+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content8+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p8+ACIAPg-Intergraph or Sierra???+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Ari Yrjo+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Mon, 04 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Good to hear we non-US folks have not been forgotten. I understand +ADw-br+AD4- it takes time to get a new product through all the bureuacracy +ADw-br+AD4- and getting that CE approval etc. I just bought a new mouse and +ADw-br+AD4- even that as a CE sticker, sheesh. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Neither 3D Blaster or Sierra's card are yet to found in any stores +ADw-br+AD4- here in Finland, but I'm only interested to get ICR2/Rendition, +ADw-br+AD4- so 3D Blaster is out from my list. As Sierra is a newcomer in hardware, +ADw-br+AD4- it's not clear if their software importer(s?) will sell their card +ADw-br+AD4- here at all. It seems I just have to wait for Reactor :) +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p9+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile9+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Hen+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content9+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p9+ACIAPg-Intergraph or Sierra???+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Hen+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Tue, 05 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Lucky for me, I have a colleague in Houston, TX, who ordered one +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- for me and shipped it to FInland. I should receive it today or on +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Monday at the latest ... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Your friend could have ordered Intergraph and gotten it +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- overnight. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I dont know if CL or Sierra are shipping in Europe +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-That's exactly what he did. He ordered Intergraph last Monday, got +ADw-br+AD4- the card on Tuesday, shipped it to Finland, and it should arrive +ADw-br+AD4- today ... Can't wait+ACEAIQAh- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Is that the reason why your overseas subsidaries can't get the card? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- I'm glad to hear that. I don't expect any problems installing the +ADw-br+AD4- Reactor, but if there should be any, I know who to turn to. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Henrikki (Hena) Hakkanen +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Tel. +358-(9)0-345 5538 +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-------- The best way to accelerate a Mac is 9.81 m/s2 -------- +ADw-br+AD4- -------------------------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4- Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are mine and does not +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- necessarily reflect those of my employer+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p10+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile10+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Mark Smi+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content10+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p10+ACIAPg-Intergraph or Sierra???+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Mark Smi+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Wed, 06 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- Your friend could have ordered Intergraph and gotten it +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- overnight. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I dont know if CL or Sierra are shipping in Europe +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- either. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It is not a matter of quantity. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-We can handle that. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- Its a matter of export licensing, trade restrictions (i.e. red +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- tape.) +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I have spoken with our Engineering +ACY-amp+ADs- Marketing staff and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- these issues are being worked out now. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Good to hear we non-US folks have not been forgotten. I understand +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-it takes time to get a new product through all the bureuacracy +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-and getting that CE approval etc. I just bought a new mouse and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-even that as a CE sticker, sheesh. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Neither 3D Blaster or Sierra's card are yet to found in any stores +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-here in Finland, but I'm only interested to get ICR2/Rendition, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-so 3D Blaster is out from my list. As Sierra is a newcomer in hardware, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-it's not clear if their software importer(s?) will sell their card +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-here at all. It seems I just have to wait for Reactor :) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Sierra is hardly a newcomer to hardware. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-They aren't making this card - they +ADw-br+AD4- are just MARKETING the card like they've done for over 8 years starting with the +ADw-br+AD4- MT-32 MIDI box which started the entire MIDI revolution in games. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-For those of +ADw-br+AD4- us who could afford the +ACQ-500 price tag back in 1990 we were able to experience +ADw-br+AD4- MIDI music years before it became a standard. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Sierra also markets Thrustmaster products and other game related hardware. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-hr /+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar bottom+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-navbar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-br/+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-1. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-cdf4e0c2667f07bc+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Nascar1999 By Sierra Sports +ACQ-29.95 from Sierra and Walmart+ACEAIQAhACEAIQA8-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-2. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-http://www.racesimcentral.net/12+AF8-6048ef2939c6af5f+AF8-1.htm+ACIAPg-Sierra Auto Products New Saturn Stuff +ACE- Sierra Performance +ACEAPA-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-3. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-2e7274fda8842836+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Intergraph Reactor3D Review on OGR+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-4. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-91d9032f4db35804+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Intergraph Reactor Review+ACEAIQAhADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-5. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-0a1b7a09a99f923f+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Yet another Intergraph Update +AD0-)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-6. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a151265621f09d3e+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Intergraph Reactor vs. Hercules Dynamite 128+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-7. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-aa308e7bb8d8ec53+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Intergraph Reactor questions+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-8. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-60aab0c21ebb26ae+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Even more Intergraph News+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-9. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-a47156c31d48d824+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Intergraph Reactor Update+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-spacedbox+ACIAPgA8-div class+AD0AIg-adbox+ACIAPg- +ADwAIQ--- Large Footer --+AD4- +ADw-ins class+AD0AIg-adsbygoogle+ACI- style+AD0AIg-display:block+ACI- data-ad-client+AD0AIg-ca-pub-4601021536021499+ACI- data-ad-slot+AD0AIg-8598264538+ACI- data-ad-format+AD0AIg-auto+ACI- data-full-width-responsive+AD0AIg-true+ACIAPgA8-/ins+AD4- +ADw-script type+AD0-'text/javascript'+AD4- (function() +AHs- var done +AD0- false+ADs- var script +AD0- document.createElement('script')+ADs- script.async +AD0- true+ADs- script.type +AD0- 'text/javascript'+ADs- script.src +AD0- '//pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/js/adsbygoogle.js'+ADs- var createScript +AD0- setTimeout( function()+AHs- document.getElementsByTagName('HEAD').item(0).appendChild(script)+ADs- +AH0-, 400 )+ADs- script.onreadystatechange +AD0- script.onload +AD0- function(e) +AHs- if (+ACE-done +ACYAJg- (+ACE-this.readyState +AHwAfA- this.readyState +AD0APQ- 'loaded' +AHwAfA- this.readyState +AD0APQ- 'complete')) +AHs- (adsbygoogle +AD0- window.adsbygoogle +AHwAfA- +AFsAXQ-).push(+AHsAfQ-)+ADs- +AH0- +AH0AOw- +AH0-)()+ADs- +ADw-/script+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-div style+AD0AIg-margin:0 auto+ADs-clear:both+ADs-max-width:990px+ADs-text-align:center+ADs-padding:20px+ADsAIgA+-rec.autos.simulators is a usenet newsgroup formed in December, 1993. 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