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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-When I play GPL and let the joystick into the center position, the driver +ADw-br+AD4- arms don't stay motionless for a second+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-They are constantly making +ADw-br+AD4- minor steering adjustments. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Only setting the steering response to full +ADw-br+AD4- linear (or switching to keyboard control) helps. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-In the calibration +ADw-br+AD4- screen the maximum deviation is less than 0.010. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I have tried both +ADw-br+AD4- Direct Input and Generic driver. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Because my T2 is broken I am using +ADw-br+AD4- CH Virtual Pilot Pro and Pro Pedals. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I also tried Gravis (original) +ADw-br+AD4- Game Pad, but the problem remains. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Is this what I should expect? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-My system: +ADw-br+AD4- Celeron 300A (not yet overclocked) +ADw-br+AD4- Abit BH6 +ADw-br+AD4- 128 PC100 SDRAM +ADw-br+AD4- Hercules Thriller 8MB AGP +ADw-br+AD4- Diamond S90 PCI soundcard (cheap) +ADw-br+AD4- CH3A gamecard +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I tried with and without soundcard or gamecard. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-BTW, I think someone should make a ECCI/TSW quality steering +ADw-br+AD4- system with USB. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Yes, and with trouble-free optical sensors and a +ADw-br+AD4- clutch as well+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Jari Jokinen +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-I forgot to mention: +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I've got a fresh installation of W98 with DirectX6. +ADw-br+AD4- I also checked with a utility program how the joysticks work in DOS. +ADw-br+AD4- They work about as well (or bad) as in GPL calibration screen with +ADw-br+AD4- Papyrus Generic Drivers. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-That is: less than 1 +ACU- of deviation. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-When I play GPL and let the joystick into the center position, the driver +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-arms don't stay motionless for a second+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-They are constantly making +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-minor steering adjustments. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Only setting the steering response to full +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-linear (or switching to keyboard control) helps. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-In the calibration +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-screen the maximum deviation is less than 0.010. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I have tried both +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Direct Input and Generic driver. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Because my T2 is broken I am using +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-CH Virtual Pilot Pro and Pro Pedals. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I also tried Gravis (original) +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Game Pad, but the problem remains. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Is this what I should expect? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-My system: +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Celeron 300A (not yet overclocked) +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Abit BH6 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-128 PC100 SDRAM +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Hercules Thriller 8MB AGP +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Diamond S90 PCI soundcard (cheap) +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-CH3A gamecard +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-I tried with and without soundcard or gamecard. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-BTW, I think someone should make a ECCI/TSW quality steering +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-system with USB. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Yes, and with trouble-free optical sensors and a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-clutch as well+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Jari Jokinen +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- When I play GPL and let the joystick into the center position, the driver +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- arms don't stay motionless for a second+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-They are constantly making minor +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- steering adjustments. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Only setting the steering response to full linear (or +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- switching to keyboard control) helps. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I have to use Direct Input with my slider at about 75+ACU- toward non-linear in +ADw-br+AD4- order to lose +ACY-quot+ADs-the shakes+ACY-quot+ADs-. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-DC +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-You could also go to http://www.thrustmaster.com and look for the ProPanel +ADw-br+AD4- utility - it's a pretty decent calibration panel that help eliminate +ACY-quot+ADs-drift+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- and +ACY-quot+ADs-shake+ACY-quot+ADs- from some joystick ports. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It worked pretty well with my SB16. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Rick +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-In Windows/Control Panel/Game Controller/Advanced+ADs- uncheck Poll with +ADw-br+AD4- interrupts enabled. That should take care of twitchy arms :-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-When I play GPL and let the joystick into the center position, the driver +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-arms don't stay motionless for a second+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-They are constantly making +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-minor steering adjustments. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Only setting the steering response to full +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-linear (or switching to keyboard control) helps. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-In the calibration +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-screen the maximum deviation is less than 0.010. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I have tried both +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Direct Input and Generic driver. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Because my T2 is broken I am using +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-CH Virtual Pilot Pro and Pro Pedals. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I also tried Gravis (original) +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Game Pad, but the problem remains. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Is this what I should expect? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-My system: +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Celeron 300A (not yet overclocked) +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Abit BH6 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-128 PC100 SDRAM +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Hercules Thriller 8MB AGP +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Diamond S90 PCI soundcard (cheap) +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-CH3A gamecard +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-I tried with and without soundcard or gamecard. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-BTW, I think someone should make a ECCI/TSW quality steering +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-system with USB. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Yes, and with trouble-free optical sensors and a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-clutch as well+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Jari Jokinen +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-In Windows/Control Panel/Game Controller/Advanced+ADs- uncheck Poll with +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-interrupts enabled. That should take care of twitchy arms :-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I already tried that. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Doesn't help. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Thanks anyway. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Ive the same problem ... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-TM Nascar Pro - SoundBlaster16 ... maybe is the port ... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-That sounds logical, but I don't understand why the arms don't tremble +ADw-br+AD4- when using keyboard control. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Mine tend to tremble some with my Montego sound card. I think there is some +ADw-br+AD4- problems with digital soundcards calibrating right in GPL. I just messed +ADw-br+AD4- with the linear/non-linear settings, and it's all but gone... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Cant wait til some of these companies start making USB steering wheels... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Mike (TEN ID:mpete) +ADw-br+AD4- http://www.mnworld.com +ADw-br+AD4- Mike's Nascar World +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-That sounds logical, but I don't understand why the arms don't tremble +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-when using keyboard control. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-I dont know why nobody here has said this before.The trembling arms are a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-simplistic way of showing the driver(you)that the front wheels are still +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-gripping since we have no feel of understeer at all.Page37 of Four Wheel +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Drift +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-says that as the car nears the limits of adhesion the steering will give a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-little shudder.If you go full speed into a turn with the front tires +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-overloaded and giving no grip,the steering wheel will not tremble at all +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-until +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-the tires hook up +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Dan:) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Mine tend to tremble some with my Montego sound card. I think there is some +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- problems with digital soundcards calibrating right in GPL. I just messed +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- with the linear/non-linear settings, and it's all but gone... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Cant wait til some of these companies start making USB steering wheels... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I hear Act Labs is already working on a USB module for their RS wheel. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Anssi Lehtinen +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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